tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post115375734594101862..comments2024-02-25T08:16:25.546-08:00Comments on Exurban Nation: Bailey AcresRob Dawghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1154037532367388752006-07-27T14:58:00.000-07:002006-07-27T14:58:00.000-07:00I'm not without humor or tolerance. The Cam State...I'm not without humor or tolerance. The Cam State Hospital was a pretty good place. I still know an elderly couple whose very adult child was there until the end. One on the very short list of Reagan mistakes. Saint Ronald also screwed up the rental market as Prez by allowing the tax breaks for new rental construction to expire/be repealed. He never managed a balanced budget amendment either. <BR/><BR/>But I digress.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153968206835059252006-07-26T19:43:00.000-07:002006-07-26T19:43:00.000-07:00Tuition. ;-)Tuition. ;-)Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153951058685620872006-07-26T14:57:00.000-07:002006-07-26T14:57:00.000-07:00The facility is now a California State University....The facility is now a California State University. Com'on Jack stay on message. We are talking about the evils of transit and the wierd results of transit addiction such that after a half dozen years of suckling on the public teat people don't even recognize their illness.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153944161171623942006-07-26T13:02:00.000-07:002006-07-26T13:02:00.000-07:00As for Cote's Ventura County, it is where the Okie...<I>As for Cote's Ventura County, it is where the Okie's who got kicked out of the San Fernando Valley ended up.</I><BR/><BR/>Snigger. Even setting aside the lame and all too obvious baiting you had best use the Census to update your spiel. Look at any socioeconomic critea you wish. Intact familes, per capita income, household income, education, go on. They all aren't perfect but compared to the SFV? <BR/><BR/>Nonetheless off topic. I'll accomodate your desire for VenCo bashing real soon. I'm lining up a Riverpark debacle update and Countrywide Mortgage implosion prediction and Amgen relocation watch in addition to a housing bubble review. Any/all will be prime territory.<BR/><BR/>And I_Din can look forward to an enlightening SF v. LA transit comparison. Very surprising NTD results.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153924941325092562006-07-26T07:42:00.000-07:002006-07-26T07:42:00.000-07:00JM,8mph is the average speed of SF buses. Those n...JM,<BR/><BR/>8mph is the average speed of SF buses. Those numbers came from Muni itself, I believe. <BR/><BR/>I haven't had the displeasure of driving 91 in at least 3 years. The last time I did however, was a Saturday afternoon returning from Newport Beach, and the average speed on the short stretch I took was something like 70mph. And people were going in the FasTrak lanes paying something like $2.50. Car drivers are not necessarily smarter than public transit users.<BR/><BR/>BART goes from "smart urban" to "sprawl", and is not included in my link above, which addresses Muni only. The majority of BART, therefore, services sprawl. At the same time, the number of stops in the SF core increases, reducing the system speed. this is obviously a necessary trade for mass transit.<BR/><BR/>Somewhat as an aside, highway infrastructure is a necessity for commerce, and if we tried to push goods delivery onto a public transit mode, then the cost of goods and services would skyrocket. Before somebody responds, "nobody is saying that a bus should deliver commercial goods," I point you to link #2 in my post above:<BR/><BR/>"Daily ridership of 1,000,000 is the target ridership because it represents a conservative estimate of how many new riders Muni needs to be able to carry to hold car trips constant. Ideally, SPUR would like to reduce the total number of car trips, not least because we want to convert some vehicle space into more space for pedestrians, bicycle facilities, and transit."<BR/><BR/>Where do they talk about improving the situation for commercial vehicles? Not here:<BR/><BR/>"Bus lanes are most needed where roads are most congested. San Francisco policymakers must be willing to accept more auto delay (or displacement of cars to other streets) as the price of having transit work better on streets whose primary purpose is to move transit. This need not happen on all streets where transit operates—different streets have different functions." <BR/><BR/>I assure you that these people are shortsighted. It's why market forces tend to get better results than central planning.incessant_dinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112787494988405076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153891930975054772006-07-25T22:32:00.000-07:002006-07-25T22:32:00.000-07:00JM,Public transit can be great for some people. I...JM,<BR/><BR/>Public transit can be great for some people. I have used the transit myself on occasion, when it fit my needs. <BR/><BR/>I also agree that the topic of public mass transit policy would be boring to somebody who has done 8 years of time riding the SF public transit system. I'll bet you've seen more wacky things on those leisurely 8mph rides than one could hope to experience from inside their car. <BR/><BR/>To each his own. It's like the veterans who consider the debates on military policy to be meaningless fluff because the real thing is so much more viceral and instinctive. I fit into the category of those who had a relatively brief tour "in country," so I find both attitudes interesting and useful.incessant_dinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112787494988405076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153884227833572052006-07-25T20:23:00.000-07:002006-07-25T20:23:00.000-07:00Please Jack. The adults are talking. Hold any qu...Please Jack. The adults are talking. Hold any questions until after the debate. I_Din was being sarcastic with the blistering speed of urban transit. Anon 6:08 points out how close sprawl and "Sustainable" can be physically. Not because they actually can be proximate but because the definitions are arbitrary with respect to actual criteria and chosen merely to advance the SmUG agenda.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153876111485302152006-07-25T18:08:00.000-07:002006-07-25T18:08:00.000-07:00According to the writers' criteria, I live in one ...According to the writers' criteria, I live in one of the ten worst areas for "sprawl" and work in one of the ten best. Should I feel guilty?<BR/><BR/>BTW, the quality of the housing stock in three of the cities on the ten best list (NY, Boston, and Providence)is abysmal. I dearly love NYC, but four-story walk-ups and air shaft ventilation should have disappeared decades ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1153801614817672652006-07-24T21:26:00.000-07:002006-07-24T21:26:00.000-07:00Robert,C'mon, you wish you had the blazing speed a...Robert,<BR/><BR/>C'mon, you wish you had the blazing speed and efficiency of the average San Francisco bus. 8.1mph is crazy fast. Reminds me of the opening scene of "Office Space," where the guy in the walker beats the traffic. Check out this report (<A HREF="http://www.sftep.com/files/MuniTEPBinder_05.pdf" REL="nofollow">pdf</A>). I love reports which mix wildly different systems (compare service areas) and use metrics that don't account for scale. Would it be too hard to calculate net operating revenue per passenger-mile? Telling me that operating costs per trip for SF and LA are fairly close, seems to miss something. I would settle for any metric based upon net operating revenue.<BR/><BR/>I love that the idea of adding <A HREF="http://www.spur.org/documents/050901_report_01.shtm" REL="nofollow">even more</A> transit-only lanes is an obvious solution.incessant_dinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112787494988405076noreply@blogger.com