tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post595146990487351173..comments2024-02-25T08:16:25.546-08:00Comments on Exurban Nation: Hold Your Nose and Talk PoliticsRob Dawghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-38978532691854058132008-03-10T13:50:00.000-07:002008-03-10T13:50:00.000-07:00HRC = Unremitting ghastliness.HRC = Unremitting ghastliness.Funny Circus Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020349317910148048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-87043966986324104382008-03-10T06:26:00.000-07:002008-03-10T06:26:00.000-07:00> We should have just wrapped up the Afghanistan m...> We should have just wrapped up the Afghanistan mess where there clearly was a problem.<BR/><BR/>You cant wrap up Afghanistan. Its not a project that has a beginning and a delivery date. It is a focus point of inexorable pressure from all directions. You can only pay in gold and blood for the chance to get a slice of the action for a while. If you dont play, then the British or French or Russians or Chinese or Iranians or Pakistanis will. Its been like that for 150 years that Im aware of, and probably a long time before that as well.spooqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09643337236303265564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-20456099427923317742008-03-09T19:56:00.000-07:002008-03-09T19:56:00.000-07:00At 8:28 AM, Lou Minatti said... Vince Foster.I ag...<I>At 8:28 AM, Lou Minatti said... <BR/>Vince Foster.<BR/>I agree and believe there were several others as well not to mention the other forms of death in their trail.<BR/><BR/>Oh brother.</I><BR/><BR/>Lou, <BR/>I presume you are working for Obama's campaign because I have a new policy of sending them more money whenever shit pisses me off in the media, i.e., your Eurotard post and comments.<BR/>Woohoo! Win-win!Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-52727805080605293162008-03-09T17:14:00.000-07:002008-03-09T17:14:00.000-07:00@Ogg,Well, I don't know if Casey succeeded in busi...@Ogg,<BR/>Well, I don't know if Casey succeeded in business or much of anything else, but I guess he tried(?)<BR/><BR/>@Dawg,<BR/>"How to Succeed in Business" was a very entertaining slice of Americana and I love that sort of stuff.<BR/>While I don’t see any difference between Clinton (follow the $ she’s received from defense contractors, etc.) and McCain on Iraq, I am with @Fred in being rather puzzled by your Iraq (and stem cell) remarks.<BR/>If we do not have a functional democracy (Diebold, election irregularities, lobbyists, Florida, etc., etc.) in this country how the hell could we ever expect to impose it on Iraq?! Stupid. We should have just wrapped up the Afghanistan mess where there clearly was a problem.<BR/><BR/>Unlike Obama, Billary and McCain have taken money from lobbyists and political action committees, so I think they really <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA" REL="nofollow">deserve each other</A>.Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-61510085298425057762008-03-09T15:06:00.000-07:002008-03-09T15:06:00.000-07:00Dawg,You said "The Iraq War was a great idea well ...Dawg,<BR/>You said "The Iraq War was a great idea well planned and executed" but peace has been the problem - oh yes, the war ended when Bush said it did, this other stuff is the "peace". It was a stupid idea, there was no plan for getting out, and could have only ended this way (did you really think the Sunnis/Shiites would come out and rejoice the "liberation"). What objectives were achieved? at what cost? Since we will never agree on any aspect of the war, lets discuss who should pay for it. Bush put it on your kids future VISA card, I say we pay for it now.<BR/><BR/>I dont at all get your comment on stem cells? Specifically how have the Bush limitations "served to advance the science in unforeseen ways" <BR/><BR/>FredFredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446118371656071397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-90236701531988386392008-03-09T10:09:00.000-07:002008-03-09T10:09:00.000-07:00The trail of death and destruction that trails the...The trail of death and destruction that trails the Clintons hangs heavy in the air. They have more skeletons in their closet than these folks:<BR/><BR/>http://costumezone.com/cz_skulls.aspAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-35184526519917680592008-03-09T08:28:00.000-07:002008-03-09T08:28:00.000-07:00Vince Foster.I agree and believe there were severa...<I>Vince Foster.<BR/>I agree and believe there were several others as well not to mention the other forms of death in their trail.</I><BR/><BR/>Oh brother.Lou Minattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16096986232572086745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-29277839093254426172008-03-09T07:55:00.000-07:002008-03-09T07:55:00.000-07:00Akubi,I agree [Vince Foster] and believe there wer...Akubi,<BR/><I>I agree [Vince Foster] and believe there were several others as well not to mention the other forms of death in their trail.<BR/>Currently avoiding MSM news and watching How to Succeed in Business on TCM.</I><BR/><BR/>Vince Foster was one of their greatest moments. Here a guy intimate of their deepest political secrets commits suicide in the White House offices and they not only successfully move the body and eliminate the evidence but don't even get blamed in the court of public opinion. <BR/><BR/>"How to Succeed in Business." Wasn't that a slice of Americana? <BR/><BR/>Fred,<BR/>No offense and your opinions are not in any way being put down but your Bushrant is why there are so few political threads. It's tiresome and not very productive. <BR/>The Iraq War was a great idea well planned and executed with a minimum of lives (on both sides) lost that achieved US objectives. I just never imagined the peace could have been bungled so badly. Same with the freaking 'Stan. You'd have thought we'd have learned from the Soviets if not from the Turks or the Persians or the Ottomans or the Greeks. <BR/><BR/>US international power and prestige has been in decline for decades with only a slight bump courtesy RWR. Anybody who thinks the current US international position now is uncomfortable imagine Gore having presided these last 8 years. <BR/><BR/>The problem with a century of the income tax is that it is increasingly unable to tap the rich. they learn and avoid taxable events like we all do except better. Extremely modest wealth and consumption taxes are going to be necessary. i just shudder at the political tricks once the camel's nose is in the tent. <BR/><BR/>The stem cells bit worries me. I thought the policy was stupid but it actually served to advance the science in unforeseen ways. He was right and within his powers in what he did. <BR/><BR/>Everybody remembers fondly the days of a Republican majority in the Congress. Things were so good coasting off the inertia of the Reagan legacy that few people cared about the President's pants. <BR/><BR/>Ogg, good one. Nice Daylight Savings Time early humor.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-21597604279268195352008-03-08T21:59:00.000-08:002008-03-08T21:59:00.000-08:00@ Akubi:Currently avoiding MSM news and watching H...@ Akubi:<BR/><BR/><I>Currently avoiding MSM news and watching How to Succeed in Business on TCM.</I><BR/><BR/>Well... as I understand it, leverage is key. So are late night business meetings, naps, having a power team, delegating everything except for having sweet connections, and wheatgrass. Of course if all that fails, there's a good market for dick pills.Ogg the Cavemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05176616237386296114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-9864011579555336522008-03-08T21:49:00.000-08:002008-03-08T21:49:00.000-08:00Note that I would prefer Obama, but I think more i...Note that I would prefer Obama, but I think more in this country will support a woman than a black man... I see the comment above about Clinton and think many have some merit, but are mild compared to the unbelievable destruction of Bush and Co....Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446118371656071397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-40663169599336890002008-03-08T21:42:00.000-08:002008-03-08T21:42:00.000-08:00Dawg,Who would you prefer (gotta pick one of the b...Dawg,<BR/>Who would you prefer (gotta pick one of the bona fide candidates)?Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446118371656071397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-47728597755304316052008-03-08T21:39:00.000-08:002008-03-08T21:39:00.000-08:00Thanks Dawg, although the first thing that comes t...Thanks Dawg, although the first thing that comes to mind is the moral compass issue. I guess I do not get the same "higher than thou" righteousness from Hilary that I do from Bush. <BR/><BR/>I cannot stand Bush for what I perceive as trashing our country. Specifically,<BR/>- Iraq war - we invaded a sovereign country for no legitimate reason. 200,000 plus Iraqis dead, how many Americans, 4k?? , about 1 trillion and counting - with no one to pay for it.<BR/><BR/>- I never agreed with any aspect of the war and thought that it could only end in the mess that it is today. But, if we decide to do it, I goddamn wanna pay for it, not ship the bill to my kids<BR/><BR/>- His muscle foreign policy has made us the laughing stock of the world<BR/><BR/>- Tax breaks for the rich. I strongly feel that those who make the most should pay the highest percentage of tax. Warren Buffet highlighted this recently that his secretary pays more tax than him (%-wise). Note, btwn my wife and I, we probably make 200k and would pay more ourselves...<BR/><BR/>- A bazillion other decisions - one that particularly irks me is stem cells.... this promising technology uses balls of cells that are thrown down the sink (50,000 embryo's get tossed, but cannot be used for these studies???) - all because of religious nuts that he is in bed with...<BR/><BR/>- the only thing I support was his 30 day extension for FBers in housing (which is essentially doing nothing, and is the right thing to do)<BR/><BR/>sorry to rant, but I like the days of Bill better (and I do not care one bit who is having sex with)Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446118371656071397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-26275114863220036672008-03-08T21:18:00.000-08:002008-03-08T21:18:00.000-08:00@h simpson,Two words of advice for ObamaVince Fost...@h simpson,<BR/><I>Two words of advice for Obama<BR/>Vince Foster.</I><BR/>I agree and believe there were several others as well not to mention the other forms of death in their trail.<BR/>Currently avoiding MSM news and watching How to Succeed in Business on TCM.Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-75012244890894806832008-03-08T20:16:00.000-08:002008-03-08T20:16:00.000-08:00Bill was talking like Hillary may take the VP slot...Bill was talking like Hillary may take the VP slot if offered today.<BR/><BR/>Two words of advice for Obama<BR/>Vince Foster.H Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466102784332540445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-60488282874110792252008-03-08T19:13:00.000-08:002008-03-08T19:13:00.000-08:00Luba changed her middle name!<A HREF="http://zillowbook.blogspot.com/2008/03/luba-hussein-hegre.html" REL="nofollow">Luba</A> changed her middle name!Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-40353942147350204012008-03-08T17:59:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:59:00.000-08:00Well, I'm glad Wyoming gave her the boot in a big ...Well, I'm glad Wyoming gave her the boot in a big way.Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-78502581277227833822008-03-08T17:49:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:49:00.000-08:00I am also of the opinion that the tax returns issu...I am also of the opinion that the tax returns issue will eventually sink her ship. They only know money and wealth from their so called public service. They don't know how to handle it and they stink of nouvea riche discomfort. Were few of us are even exposed to real wealth. Let me tell you, it is different. Not taking for granted nor studied indifference. It comes from immersion in an attitude and perspective from birth that treats assets and money much the same way old New England Yankees would look at leaving a light on or consider buying a new dray horse. Just more zeroes.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-53136464928890709592008-03-08T17:37:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:37:00.000-08:00@ Akubi:Bill's been claiming cigars and Shout as b...@ Akubi:<BR/><BR/>Bill's been claiming cigars and Shout as business expenses.Ogg the Cavemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05176616237386296114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-82507819878953080782008-03-08T17:29:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:29:00.000-08:00Also, why hasn't the MSM made more of the fact tha...Also, why hasn't the MSM made more of the fact that Billary has not released their tax returns since 2000?<BR/>What are they hiding?Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-30519416342053754012008-03-08T17:26:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:26:00.000-08:00Peter Paul, Norman Hsu, etc., etc.What is there to...<A HREF="http://www.peterfpaul.com/" REL="nofollow">Peter Paul</A>, Norman Hsu, etc., etc.<BR/><BR/>What is there to like?Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-62106241947438110422008-03-08T17:14:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:14:00.000-08:00I'm not ready to contemplate a Hilly/Billy Pt 2 ad...I'm not ready to contemplate a Hilly/Billy Pt 2 administration just yet. I love 'what if' sci-fi speculation but it is too early for juvenile teen summer horror flicks. <BR/><BR/>Interesting that a lurker comes out to ask specifically what bothers me. Ops researcher? That's another thing that bothers me.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-89166414411934223782008-03-08T17:10:00.000-08:002008-03-08T17:10:00.000-08:00Things not to like about HRC:Socialized "Hillary C...Things not to like about HRC:<BR/><BR/>Socialized "Hillary Care", small business & the middle class pays for everyone.<BR/><BR/>Travelgate<BR/><BR/>White Water<BR/><BR/>Pork Bellies<BR/><BR/>China<BR/><BR/>Carpet Bagging<BR/><BR/>The list is infinite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-7410084724979964352008-03-08T16:33:00.000-08:002008-03-08T16:33:00.000-08:00@Dawg,Bush and Hillary share a common belief that ...@Dawg,<BR/><I>Bush and Hillary share a common belief that the rightness of their actions is justified by their certainty that their decisions are guided by an unerring moral compass.</I><BR/>So true. If I state it is the truth, it *is the truth* no matter how insanely inaccurate it is. Perhaps that's why she's so popular among voters who haven't finished high school.<BR/><BR/>@Bill,<BR/><I>Again, the winning Democratic candidates in the past 50 years have been white guys from the South - with one exception.</I><BR/>This is why I think Edwards would be a good choice for Obama's VP.<BR/><BR/><I>Whenever the mainstream media plays her soundbites she ends up sounding like she has all the wit and charm of Dick Cheney and Rudy Giuliani combined.</I><BR/>So true.<BR/>Essentially, other than well known extramarital affairs she seems to have all of Bill's minuses without his charisma.<BR/><BR/>Also, if Shillary has done such a good job dividing the Democratic party, WTF will she do to this country that's already in a pretty sorry state?Akubihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214321836465499032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-34578329644563045342008-03-08T12:06:00.000-08:002008-03-08T12:06:00.000-08:00I've been asked for a few of the things that bothe...I've been asked for a few of the things that bother me about HRC:<BR/><BR/>Bush and Hillary share a common belief that the rightness of their actions is justified by their certainty that their decisions are guided by an unerring moral compass. <BR/><BR/>Bush and Hillary share a common trait of not fearing the awesome power the Presidency holds. <BR/><BR/>Bush and Hillary share a common sense of absolutism in that if you oppose their polices you are an enemy and generally that only because you aren't as smart or informed or insightful on the issue as they. <BR/><BR/>Bush and Hillary share a common practice of rewarding loyalty far out of proportion to any actual service performed. <BR/><BR/>Hillary is a core urbanist. <BR/><BR/>Hillary never asks "should we even" only "what should we."<BR/><BR/>It takes a village.<BR/><BR/>Cattle futures.<BR/><BR/>Triangulation.Rob Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10042154106850545479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7514357.post-1729199165212572942008-03-08T07:31:00.000-08:002008-03-08T07:31:00.000-08:00Again, the winning Democratic candidates in the pa...Again, the winning Democratic candidates in the past 50 years have been white guys from the South - with one exception.<BR/><BR/>Maybe, just maybe, Obama can be as charismatic as JFK for the Democrats.<BR/><BR/>Not a chance for Clinton since the SNL skits have it right.<BR/><BR/>Whenever the mainstream media plays her soundbites she ends up sounding like she has all the wit and charm of Dick Cheney and Rudy Giuliani combined.Bill in NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13183010395531193508noreply@blogger.com