Thursday, October 19, 2017

Pict Pics






26 comments:

Lawyerliz said...

First. How old are they? Where found?

Rob Dawg said...

5th to 7th Century with a few rare earlier examples like those shown.

Cinco-X said...

So nothing back to Roman times?

Lawyerliz said...

Dod' the pict invade England

Cinco-X said...

The Romans invaded England, and conquered it up to the point that they meet the Picts. They eventually built Hadrian's Wall to protect their holdings from the Picts.

Cinco-X said...

The British Isles may have been populated when the Picts arrived, but it was probably sufficiently unpopulated that the Picts just moved in alongside whatever Neolithic peoples were already there. The Saxon invasion that occurred after the Romans left was a true invasion.

Rob Dawg said...

By the time of the Saxons the Picts and the Scots had sufficiently intermingled to have become one people.

The Picts predated the Romans but the harsh climate didn't treat the oldest evidence kindly.

Cinco-X said...

Stonehenge

Rob Dawg said...

Most scientists agree on the modern theory that three tribes built Stonehenge at three separate times. In approximately 3000 B.C., it is believe the first people to work on the site were Neolithic agrarians. Archaeologists named them the Windmill Hill people after one of their earthworks on Windmill Hill, which is near Stonehenge. The Windmill Hill peoples built large circular furrows, or hill-top enclosures, dug around a mound and had collective burials in large stone-encased tombs. Most of their burial mounds point east-west. These people were a blend of the local peoples and Neolithic tribe members from Eastern England. They were one of the first semi-nomadic hunting and gathering groups with an agricultural economy and contained a strong reverence for circles and symmetry. They raised cattle, sheep, goats, pigs, grew wheat and mined flint.

The Beaker people, or Beaker Folk, came from Europe at the end of the Neolithic Period and invaded Salisbury Plain around 2000 B.C. Their name comes from one of their ancient traditions in which they would bury beakers, or pottery drinking cups, with their dead. Instead of burring their dead in mass graves, they showed more reverence for death by placing them in small round graves marked by mounds called tumuli. It is assumed by archaeologists that the Beaker People were more warlike in nature than most tribes of their time because they buried their dead with more weapons, such as daggers and battle axes. The Beaker Folk were highly organized, industrious, used sophisticated mathematical concepts, and managed their society by using a chieftain system. They began using metal implements and living in a more communal fashion. Scientists believe they were sun worshipers who aligned Stonehenge more exactly with certain important sun events, such as mid summer and winter solstices.

The Wessex Peoples are considered the third and final peoples to work on the Stonehenge site. They arrived around 1500 B.C. at the height of the Bronze Age. They were by far one of the most advanced cultures outside the Mediterranean during this period. Since their tribal base were located where ridgeways, or ancient roads, met, they became skillful and well-organized traders, controlling trade routes throughout Southern Britain. These people are thought to have been responsible for the bronze dagger carving found on one of the large sarsen stones within Stonehenge. They were a very smart culture, wealthy, and used greater precision in their calculations and construction. It is felt they used these talents in finalizing Stonehenge into what we see today.

Lawyerliz said...

How did they finance this??? Hahahahaha

UMDan said...

Property Taxes? Or maybe they set up tool booths similar to the one in Blazing Saddles and charged those traversing their roads for the privilege of doing so?

Rob Dawg said...

Liz gets POTD.

The Bronze Age was as much a revolution as the Industrial or the impending Biotech revolutions. Huge leapfrog advances with amazing consequences.

apparently thte Picts were early active adopters of Christianity which might explain the lack of older stele and other symbology monuments.

Rob Dawg said...

disclaimer.

If you don't like enjoy polite econ mixed with ephemera such as Anglo-Saxon prehistory and tech innovations there is always the tightly regulated Reddit HCN.

Lawyerliz said...

Jutes. Weren't there Jutes too?

Rob Dawg said...

Jutes, the Germanic tribe(s) for whom Jutland and The Jutland were named. Pretty much the same level as the Vikings and Danes and Irish who "visited" and left their DNA (and took some home) but not much more. It should be noted that English is root Germanic.

English is conventionally, if perhaps too neatly, divided into three periods usually called Old English (or Anglo-Saxon), Middle English, and Modern English. The earliest period begins with the migration of certain Germanic tribes from the continent to Britain in the fifth century A.D., though no records of their language survive from before the seventh century, and it continues until the end of the eleventh century or a bit later. By that time Latin, Old Norse (the language of the Viking invaders), and especially the Anglo-Norman French of the dominant class after the Norman Conquest in 1066 had begun to have a substantial impact on the lexicon, and the well-developed inflectional system that typifies the grammar of Old English had begun to break down.

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That's what you get for following what I call a vacation. I don't ogle the tourist crap. I( have little prospect of being smart but i can become educated.

Lawyerliz said...

You are smart AND edumacated. And rich
Hehehehehe.

Lawyerliz said...

If south east Florida were cut off from the rest of the wo rld for a while, we would be shortly be speaking spinglish.

Lawyerliz said...

I hate inflections. I also hate male and female words.

Rob Dawg said...

¿Ca?

Cinco-X said...

There were Norse from Jutland, but I think they showed up much later

Rob Dawg said...

RICH?!? Rich don't have three cars in the family with an average age of 13 years. Two bought very used. Rich peole don't rummage the Goodwill last chance outlet for golf clubs and polo shirts. Pull their own weeds. I have a $220,000 house that needed $150k in habitable repairs. And now needs $45k in new kitchen. You thought the master bath replacement was a never ending odessey? Just wait. Worse, my mom is suggesting we make the garage more ready for and elderly apartment. Pray for us.

Rob Dawg said...

Wait. "Average age" for vehicles is not a good metric. Forget that. ;)

Rob Dawg said...

New post.

Lawyerliz said...

Poor dont have no rental houses.

Cinco-X said...

But frugal old Yankees do... The wealthy out in the countryside if MA often drive 7 year old Impalas... That's how they got and maintain their wealth

Rob Dawg said...

When the fenders start flapping at least it means they are still there.