My thanks to John and the other 'watchdawgs' for tracking down barking, and ultimately treeing that wily critter Nigel. For those not following the story so far;
Nigel Swaby got the taste of Casey's attention and got hooked. He's tried for months to hijack parts of the discussion to his own SLCblog. People would visit, declare it lame and either never visit again, go back few times to call it lame or in several cases get really pissed and whenever he active linked in other forums preempt his lameness. Ahhhh, but with Casey, now there was mudhole where everybody seemed to be wallowing dirty pigs. He'd fit right in. So like any good attention whore Nigel set up 'Donthatecasey" to build traffic and audience to feed his addiction. Problem is it turns out that it wasn't the SLCblog that was lame, it is NIGEL. Clue Deficit Disorder of the first order. Yesterday poor little Nigel tried to post abot the economic fallacy of zero sum as it applied to Casey. His conclusion? Casey's antics have hurt no one. Well, you can imagine how that went down with the dawgpack and that's where John and the others come in. We owe them thanks. They used logic and reason and probing inquiry to call Nigel a lamer without triggering NIGEL'S censorship. I can only hope these lessons stick. Yeah right, anyway let's do what we are good at. one or two can visit and post excerpts here where ou can call a turd a turd and have fun doing it. Again, thanks all.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 389 of 389His wife bought it for him...no shit!
The Murse! "It can't be too big" OMFG!
The Murse! "It can't be too big" OMFG!
T, you're awesome!!
WONDERFUL! JACK BAUER BAG OF TRICKS!
T, i owe you one jamba juice
Give me a break...
T (Nacho) you sound hot!
I carry an STI .45 on my side, lol
BEDROOM!
WONDERFUL NACHO!
Nacho seems on the ball. The bedroom, lol
TROLLING!!!THANKS FOR HAVING YOUR FRIENDS/RELATIVE CALL IN!!! LOOSER!!!!!!!~!!LOOOSER.....
NACHO (T), ASK THE BOY IF HE IS GAY. :)
My speakers aren't working(yeah, I am that bad with electronics). Is anyone going to do a transcript? I'm going to try not to go to his website anymore.
I must admit that I was getting a bit addicted. But can't be adding hits to his site.
WTF - can't live life without Starbucks? We (spouse and I) like Starbucks too, but we're living without it while we get out of debt.
75% success on the trash..fuck...unreal...
Nacho is cool...NIGEL!
Lurker here who just had to come out of the closet to say...WTG NACHO!!!!! Murse, Utah wrap, G and the bedroom, the trash, and now NIGEL!! I'm gonna pee myself i'm laughing so hard!!!
Nacho, i owe you two jamba juices.
winwin...Call your local attorney!!!Total TROLL!!!
Drink!
Is this Steph J????
Dammit I missed T's comments. I was on hold and then speaking with the one and only Casey Serin. I gotta say, it was kind of weird that he picked my call up immediately. Maybe cause my screen name was Walter Cashcall.
SAY THE NAME GALINA ON THE AIR... I LOVE YOU NACHYPOO ;-)
Nacho, mention EN by name..
2-3 AOs per minute!
I suspect she is either Steph J or Aspeth or both.
SWEET!
Akubi, It's T. This is a glorious day for haterdom.
NACHO (T), ASK IF CASEY'S WORRIED ABOUT HOMEY DA CLOWN... hehe.
I dunno if you're reading this in real time, but you're awesome T. Really :-)
Love you now!!! go get him!!! Sorry I didn't see the plan!!!
Go Nacho!
I'm a T / Nacho FAN!
SWEET!
T, you have a really nice voice too.
Ask about Homey!
GO NACHO!!!
Well. That was fun.
NACHO BROUGHT CASEY DOWN!!! I totally saw that one coming!!!
erm... did Gaysey just hang up on T after she mentioned Mormon, or is that just my dumb computer? :-p
The score for this chat:
Haters : 666
Casey : 0
T, you are awesome.
Go T, it's your birthday...
Now he's justifying hanging up on Nacho. What a fucktard.
T, you rock like a hurricane!!
LIL f'r hung up on her!
Excellent, T. You go girl!
T ROCKS!!!!!! All EN's in Southern California must drink.
Shit, sorry guys... I didn't see all your questions or I would have asked them. My bad.
fuck, I went to take a leak. WTF happened?
Isn't he cutting over his time limit now? Shit I wish I could hear this!!!
T/NACHO he hung up on you.
This happily married man loves you. In a totally platonic way of course.
That was great.
Asshat comes back on and says "oh we're out of time, should have seen that coming"
T...when I first heard you I thought you were a supporter but listened and heard you trap him and god you were awesome!!! Ignore my previous post!! Good job!!
is there a recording somewhere?
T you rock! Gaysey's accent was getting thicker by the second!
Awesome job T as trapping him.
ROFL - I must tell my cat (Nacho) that he's famous.
Great ending, T....you got the money shot!!!!!!
Sounds like he was saved by the bell...Oh shit - better not do one of those again...
The break allowed him time to regroup and not have to deal with the hate calls he knew were looming.
Oh what the #$#@$#. I thought it was over and went for a walk. He got back on?!!?!
So you guys can put faces to the names.
Me:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3504/mypicdm6.jpg
Nacho:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2290/nachobj6.jpg
yeah, and T just destroyed him...beautiful.
again guys...coordinate our informational attacks at caseyserininfo@yahoo.com
Well I see that dumbshit coward Nigel has the time to delete comments he deems offensive (even though there was no name calling), but he doesn't have time to respond to R-Boy or John. GO FIGURE.
That's was enjoyable - nice job Nacho/T and sorry for mixing you up with Tony (Tony/T) in talkshoe's comment section.
T, I fucking love that you started to corner him with his own 'good christian' bullshit. He completely melted down on that one.
Aspeth said...
Great ending, T....you got the money shot!!!!!!
I was shocked he actually took my call cause I put exurbannation.blogspot.com in the comment section by the name Nacho so many times that when I was finally on the phone with him, I didn't know if I should tell him who I was or not. I wanted to keep it lighthearted to keep him on the phone and yet ask some questions that would keep you guys entertained.
PS: Your blog kicks serious ass.
T, excellent job delivering the verbal equivalent of a steel toe to the balls. The murse comments were fucking winwin. We should try to get him on "What Not to Wear".
The Nigel bi-curious one was the cashback itsallgood of all time.
I think I had to drink four times in like thirty seconds with all those sayings...too funny
Thanks a million, T...high priase coming from the high priestess of ass whoopings tonight!
I was actually wondering if I knew you--you mentioned SD and your voice sounds familiar. But I saw the pic and it turns out, sadly, no.
I was bitching on my blog earlier that I've been overworked, completely drained, and have had nothing to offer. But tonight turned out to be a fucking blast!!! You guys are the best!!!
I went through two 22s.
Rob Dawg - Congrats on your traffic bonanza. I'm certain Nigel (the new object of an equal degree of hatred) is seething with jealousy and disbelief...
Is he still on Talkshoe?
And I shoulda asked him if he was an Oprah fan and if he's read The Secret. LOL
Oh shit...I'm just reading backwards:
At 7:42 PM, T said...
If this fucker doesn't take my call I'm gonna be PISSED!
Whooohoooo. Sercasey is *not* going to sleep well tonight ;-) He soooo wishes he didn't take your call...LOfuckingL
Nacho looks pretty ferocious. Look how he gutted that gift box!
Can someone please give me the gist of what T said!?!?!?!?!
T totally fluffed him...asked him a bunch of soft-serve questions, then started in with the hard shit....
asking him if he thinks he should go to jail (no); why he's not making even token payments on any of his debt (it wouldn't make a difference, that money is better used for making money)
she then spoke to him very slowly, the way an *actual* grown-up would speak to a toddler or retarded person and explained to him 1) "you fill a bucket drop by drop" re: the debt
2) the difference between "haters" and "critics"
3) the fact that he feels stressed out is not reparation enough to society for the wrongs he has committed
Aspeth said...
I was actually wondering if I knew you--you mentioned SD and your voice sounds familiar. But I saw the pic and it turns out, sadly, no.
It's all good (heh), babe. You "know" me now. And if you're ever down in So Cal let me know and I'll buy you a beer.
and then the slam-dunk was that she started asking him, in essence, "You *are* a good Christian, aren't you?" She was, I think, about to go down the route of his Christian duty calling him to live up to his obligations when he hung up on her!
It was FUCKING CLASSIC. I'm drinking some knock-you-on-your-ass homemade sangria in your honor, T !
T, I live in SD (I think you do too, from the 'live chat', or am I wrong?) I'm constantly back and forth to the east coast to service clients.
If only that were even as remotely dirty and fun as it sounds...
Mansack Juicefast said...
Nacho looks pretty ferocious. Look how he gutted that gift box!
It was me who gutted the gift box, actually... he just wanted to lay in it and that's why he's looking all doofy.
And sheesh, where the hell is my MigDreamy? I'm at my finest hour and he's off playing husband and father instead of being here like a good e-boyfriend.
Sheesh.
Aspeth said...
T, I live in SD (I think you do too, from the 'live chat', or am I wrong?)
No, I'm in Southern California... in the San Gabriel Valley.
T,
Your photo confirms that you're hot in a MILFy sort of way. I enjoyed the conversation.
Thanks, anon. But my kids would say, "ewww".
Aspeth said...
She was, I think, about to go down the route of his Christian duty calling him to live up to his obligations when he hung up on her!
I was gonna ask WWJD about the homeless guy. Then I was gonna ask him if Jesus was alive today, does Casey think He'd lie on his loan apps and get cashback @ close. LOL
R-Boy said...
Nacho, i owe you two jamba juices.
SWEET!
Now it's time for this broad to go study. I have an exam tomorrow night. (And my kid's nagging me for a turn on the puter.)
G'night all. Glad I could put a smile on your faces.
T,
Eww is probably what you'd say if you knew who I was...
I was right about the MILFy. Thanks!
WWJD? (Insert full-blown guffaw)
T, you're one dangerous woman. I've got a total girl-crush on you. Like Hobbes, "in a totally platonic way of course."
Rob, sorry if the IM-like posts are hijacking your blog. Feel free to delete any of my hundred posts at will.
Back to topic, was it news to anyone besides me that his Dallas appraiser inflated the property value so that the 'value' would be post-repair?
How the heck is Casey making any money?
Asspeth,
He said it in real estate lingo. ARV. After repaired value.
One thing that caught me was the fact that Utah is still fucked AND he shows no inclination to fix it. He had to have gotten the money somehow because any of us would be all over whatever company fucked up the payment like white on rice. Me thinks some DA is gonna like this.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me this one will be available for download just like the last one. If not please tell me someone recorded it!!!???
I didn't get a chance to listen. Lost was on!
Keep fighting the good fight hat0rz!!!
The episode was just posted -- download away!
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-8714/TS-12399.mp3
@anonymous 8:55 Ah...thank you. Allrighty then.
And a clarification...SD = San Diego. Sorry for the confustion, T.
I really liked the part where "live wouldn't be worth living" without his comfort items of Starbux, et al. And the fact that he was really juicing up over the idea that $150k caller was actually going to offer him a job. As if.
The audio appears to now be available for flash playback (I don't know if it includes the second 'half' yet)
Another question...why does he do these podcasts? Does his ego not allow him to see how lame he sounds?
Does he think he is somekind of bigshot?
Looks like it's only the first half, not when T got ahold of him.
Rboy vs. SLMG - It's rebuttal time.
Wow. on the stated income loans his argument basically boils down to: "I knew it was illegal, but I wouldn't have done it if I thought they'd actually punish me." What a weasel.
@ Dolph:
Yeah. He does have a Kermit the Frog thing going on.
Please post link to portion when T/Nacho whipped Wonderboy's ass.
A good lookin' woman with a mean streak....Gawd....I think I'm in love!
The entire show is up there now. I didn't catch the show live, but I fast forwarded to the last few minutes and it is hilarious. I will enjoy listening to this during my commute tomorrow.
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=8714
It's all there now.
Re: Nigel
What a fucking bore he is. Just keep talking until people become so utterly bored by your attempt at making something of yourself that people just give up and leave. Great Strategy, actually!
Thanks again T. I figured you were a MILF:) Muy bueno!
Cool I'm listening now to the end of the call.
Man he really talks like his blog. Who talks like this? I have never heard a less real person in my life.
I've watched this whole saga unfold with more or less detached amusement until now, but now I'm pissed. This asshole thinks life is not worth living if he can't have Starbucks on a regular basis. Well, he just said that most of our lives are not worth living. Fuck him.
*takes deep breath*
On a calmer note, I think somebody seriously failed this kid earlier in his life. He appears to derive all of his satisfaction in life from spending money. He thinks that his only choices are eating out all the time, or eating top ramen every day. What a warped worldview.
Sputnik, Stephanie J, where are you? There are shoes that need pooping in and scrotums that need kicking.
- Ogg, who makes way better coffee than Starbucks
"Do you and Nigel Swaby have qa flirtatious relationship? Is there a little bit of bi-curious stuff going on there??"
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA!
BTW, can somebody let me know when T comes in? I'd rather not listen to this whole thing if I can avoid it.
Ogg- She starts beating him senseless around 1:05ish and he keeps her on for a freakin looooooong time. UN-COM-Fortable.
I gotta cop to being a SBUX addict myself but I brew it at home everyday. I stop by once in a while as well. I wouldn't end my life if I couldn't have it every morning but is some sick psycho took out the local SBUX, they'd be meeting a few rounds of Winchester .45 SXT's. I haven't missed a morning without SBUX in over ten years....fuck, they pnwed me..lol..oh well, everyone has a vice. What burns me is the fact that he whines about how busy he is and shit and STILL HASN"T TRACKED DOWN THE UTAH PAYMENT! For fucks sake man, that is the lamest thing I've heard in this whole sad story. I think the story here is that his father never beat his ass when he fucked up as a child. My old man would have taken me out himself by now if I pulled half the crazy shit snowflake has.
Oh man, I busted a gut when T asked about the butt pirate Nigel. Classic!
T,
ya gots talent. If there was only a career path for semi-righteous indignation, you'd be rich.
SBUC - one doppio espresso every morning.
Casey: Don't you think I'm paying the piper right now????
T: No, not yet. Not even close. Casey you have to do something to right this wrong!
Casey: Do you think a person can survive on Top Ramen for six months?? Do you think they would remain healthy and make it through that?
T: Oh yeah!
Hoooooo hoo hahahaha!
Is T Tanta too...?!
SWEET! :> Its downloadable.
I was at work til now and couldn't listen to it.
Nicole
The last words:
T: Did you disconnect on me? Oh you son of a...
-End of audio-
It's there folks - Forever!
Oh My God, This Josh Hougton fellow sounds like he's writing letters from prison!
@Ogg 9:46...in complete agreement. I couldn't believe he got so agitated when T brought up that other people are out there in similar circumstances, and PUSHING THROUGH THE ADVERSITY.
He kind of freaked out about that, with that whole "Do you really think someone could *live* off of Top Ramen for 6 months?"
Perhaps THIS is the lesson that college teaches....
And Sercasey would no doubt be floored to learn that an entire continent of people really do live off of ramen noodles.
The vaccuum of knowledge that is Casey Serin is a black hole in the blogosphere.
T,
One thing I would have done differently if I had your public speaking abilities would be to explore his bisexual tendencies rather than block that train of thinking off...
Aspeth - I lived off worse than Top Ramen. Try hydroponic weed and sourdough bread for two years living in some shithole in the Bay Area. I weighed in @ 145 (I'm 5'11") before I got a job where I made a halfway decent living. But I did it on my own CASEY! And I really did survive. That was 15 years ago and now, fortunately I'm a mid 30's, slightly overweight alcoholic. Success!
Who the f are you anon 10:17?!!
Is T Tanta too...?!
If only! Tanta is the sexiest, bitchiest, number crunching, blog commenting, understands what goes on behind the mortgage business woman out there.
Couldn't be our T I'm afraid.
Unlike Casey, I CAN resist the temptation to reveal my identity!
PS - I'm insane anon - not the one who insulted T. T is my hero.
There are many T's. Tanta, T bills, T here, Tim from Monterey Bay, etc....
Anon,
Why don't you pick a name any name so we can track you.
Dawg's Nigey Rebuttal (God that was a lame excuse for a 24 hour layoff - he should've had gold I tell ya!)
Rob Dawg said...
Sad on so many levels. Nigel, I have an idea, a constructive one. You can try this at big picture, calculated risk, global economics or even exurban nation and observe the varied responses. If even 1/10th even tolerate your views I'd be surprised. Note, these are extremely tolerant forums and I'm willing to bet you can'y find even the slightest support. March 21, 2007 9:39 PM
Gotta agree with Rob here, Nigel is hated I tell ya, hated on every thinking person's financial blog.
Akubi, I already have one but feel incredibly vulnerable now that I have revealed said information.
Nighty night!
T-ired too. Live sucks and then you either go to sleep or die. Hope others are having more fun.
Love,
Akubi
as long as it's a win-win
and the deal is sweet enough for there to be
enough juice in it
for everybody
Nigel in Pleaselovemeandcaseyland.com:
TRANSLATION:
"I have read all of the things you guys have to say and well, shit I don't really know how to keep up with you all. Um ZERO SUM GAME! ZERO SUM GAME! Hey I'm gonna remove your post and your post and...MY post and your post. I don't have time, I'm sticking my fingers in my ears. I don't hear you lalalalalalala!
I will reapond to you when wikipedia gives me the answers I seek. Thanks for your patience."
Again John, great work in one sentence you sent a shiver down my spine. Christ I don't want to get on your bad side.
Was Casey underwater when he hosted this talk shoe? (Boy did they name that right! I could just picture everybody holding their nose while talking into their loafers!) Anyway, I will listen to the entire thing when I have one hour to waste. Nigel is a prick. He deletes. What a pretentious nimrod. His traffic will soon reflect his IQ.
I need a cochlear implant.com
I just tried to post this at IAFF
SWEET!!!!
Hey I just found two Google #1 SEARCHES!!!!!
"casey serin loser con artist"
OR
"casey serin looser con artist"
Good for you ;)
Sorry I missed T's performance, she always struck me as sarcastically funny, and I always suspected she was kind of a badass. Anyways, I'm downloading the podcast just to listen in on her:-)
And yes, she is a hottie:-)
Nigel sucks. What a pompous ass.
Legion,
And yes, she is a hottie:-)
Especially compared to your cow. Literally, your cow. You knew that was coming didn't you? Or were you "out" with your sheep?
I know you hate this...
"I don't hear you lalalalalalala!"
Yes, I hear it all the time, baby.
So basically Casey has a sense of entitlement like no other. YOU HAVE TO EARN the better things in life. He thinks people should be giving it to him since he's had it so hard.
Yeah right.
I'd be happy in Montana.
But I'll happily continue battles in dream time.
G'night kids.
Sorry if this has been asked, will Casery get any money (or anything) if I download the show?
I have to admit, I fastforwarded to T's questions.
T, you are my hero. :) I wouldn't want to meet you at a foreclosure :)
Nicole
This new murse completely zips up
so I can actually run with it
if I'm,
you know,
trying to run away from somebody
or catch somebody.
Anonymous said...
Legion,
"Especially compared to your cow. Literally, your cow. You knew that was coming didn't you? Or were you "out" with your sheep?
I know you hate this..."
Actually I couldn't give a shit, fire away.
I feel sorry for him. He sounds like a little immature kid. Prison will not kind to him. I'll have to console Galina for him. And take care of her needs while he's taking care of biffs. ;)
T -
YOU ROCK GIRL!
Loved your hard hitting questions. Thanks.
At around 47:15 in the recording, in response to John's question about marriage, Snowflake said "... we have had our issues, we do fight about those and money quite often, but lately it's been better."
Isn't it a HUGE RED FLAG when a woman suddenly and without reason stops bugging her man about an ongoing problem? Specifically, doesn't it mean that she has given up on him and is quietly finalizing her exit strategy?
Having to quit school may have been the final straw for Mrs. Snowflake.
After all the comments about T dressing down Casey I simply had to listen to the podcast, and WOW!!!!
T..... yeah GIRL!!!!!
That was beautiful. Simply beautiful.
I missed a perfectly good drinking game too. Damnit.
"I seen the nastyness...the toilets...you had some place a homeless guy was living in..."
"well the homeless guy wasnt living inside....he lives inside a car in my driveway"
"well he probably didnt even want to live in there"
Whomever left that link to Nigel's blog o' crap should be slapped. I clicked on it thinking it was something interesting. Instead, I left this comment....surely it won't remain active for long:
Some very basic elements of this discussion seem to be eluding you. To back out an argument with an economist by shrugging and saying "macro vs. micro are two totally different things" is like diverting a conversation with an artist by saying "well of course red is different from blue!"
Further, a Ponzi scheme does make money...until you reach the higher echelons, and the 'robbing peter to pay paul' theory is no longer viable.
"Lenders and credit card companies need people to default to lower their tax liabilities. That’s one of the big reasons it’s allowed to happen. Don’t be a "playa hater." Hate the game."
Well, by God, according to that well-conceived argument, Casey did the banks, the government, and the taxpayers a huge favor!
I can't get past the idea that you just gave some 7th-grade hip hop answer to a valid economic discussion. When I perused the next paragraph and glean that Casey should somehow be given a wider berth for speaking English, I know it's time to go.
I speak six languages fluently, four of which I learned after the age of 17. I still know not to lie, cheat, and steal...in any nation, in any tongue.
my contribution to Nigel's blog. Posting it here so it's saved for posterity. His biggest mistake is erasing posts knowing we will back them up here. LOL.
-------------------------
With all due respect Nigel, telling an economist to show numbers without any reasoned debate is not a good way to back up your argument.
He disputed and rebutted your points and you failed the basic rule of a debate, have a reasonable comeback. Sorry man, I have to give that round to R-Boy.
As for Casey, please answer this question...what do you and Casey have planned for a business venture? I ask this because you spend way too much time defending that guy. Why? I would appreciate more than a 1 sentence response.
If you don't want to spend time debating because you have no time, why start this blog?
All fair questions with no disrespect intended. I hope you agree.
Thanks for your time!
Does Nigel get his opinions from a magic eight ball? I read his newest SLC post and laughed my ass off. He may overhear his bosses talk and decides to post it on his blog? What say ye?
I downloaded his show and will be making many CDs for prosecutors and law enforcement. Hope they enjoy the juicy admissions!
I missed it live, but I'll make amends to my e-girlfriend by transcribing the whole of her chat with Casey.
So here goes...
PART ONE: THE MURSE
C: OK, we'll go with... let me see, do we have anybody near here? We have Nacho - Nacho, how are you doing?
T: Casey, my man, how are you doing?
C: I'm doing great. How are you doing, Nacho, where are you from?
T: I'm doing good - I'm from Southern California.
C: Southern California. A good place to be.
T: It is beautiful down here. Listen, I have a question. I know a lot of people are wondering - what's up with the murse? Can you give us some suggestions on where we go to buy it, how much they cost, which side, left or right, we carry it on?
C: Sure, sure - well, you know, this is the second version of it. I used to have another one made by Guess - Guess Jeans. That was a really good one, but then that one got dirty because I wear it all the time, and this one my wife actually bought for me as a gift because I really miss my version number one. But you know what, there's different kinds out there, you just have to look around, find what works for you. It can't be too big, it's gotta be just the right size, and it can't have too many open pockets because I found myself loosing pens and loosing my PDA which would just keep flying out. This new one I have completely zips up so I can actually run with it if I'm... you know, trying to run away from somebody or catch somebody.
T: So it's sort of like Goldilocks and the Three Bears - you know, not too big, not too small, right?
C: Yeah, there you go - you got it.
T: Which side do you traditionally wear it on, the left or the right?
C: It's normally on my right, cause I'm right-handed so I can reach over and grab my PDA or my digital camera...
T: What's in the murse? That's what we need to know - what do you carry in it? Is it a Jack Bauer bag of tricks or what?
C: What was that?
T: Is it a Jack Bauer bag of tricks and stuff? Do you have like C-4 and stuff in there? Or ammunition?
C: I can't tell you everything that's in it. OK, how about this, I'll just tell you some of the contents, because, you know, I can't talk about every single thing in there. We got the digital camera, that takes the famous pictures. We got the PDA, that's also my cellphone, so I can get online and moderate comments.
T: Sweet!
C: We have a Hacky Sack when I get bored.
T: Oh, that's nice.
C: We have a notepad to write down notes when I'm talking to people. And we have...
T: And do you like bird-dog sweet deals? When you're trying to bird-dog sweet deals, do you take...?
C: Oh exactly, when I'm talking to the mailman, he gives me a sweet deal with the tip.
PART TWO: THE UTAH WRAP - coming soon!
PART TWO: THE UTAH WRAP, G'S EDUCATION AND CASEY'S HAIR
T: OK, how about the Utah wrap? Any resolutions?
C: Uh, you know, I said earlier in the call that, you know, I just haven't had the chance to finish that up. But it's still out there...
T: Don't you think you should? I think that's worth a good hour or two, don't you think? I really do, I think it's good for the people that...
C: OK, you know what, I'll take full blame for it. It is my fault for not taking care of it. There's really no justification on that one.
T: And it's good, it's good that you want to take full blame and all, but are you actually going to take some action and do something about it? Because that's really... you know, talk is cheap, but it's the follow-through that's really important. Seriously.
C: Yeah, exactly. Thanks for that advice.
T: You're welcome. So what about G? I know she quit school, right?
C: Yeah, she quit school. Just recently - we're talking yesterday.
T: Did she get a refund on her tuition?
C: I don't think so, as far as I know. We need to look into that. But it wasn't because we can't afford it - some viewers were saying "oh, she quit because we can't afford it". No, it was already prepaid so it was a really tough decision. But she's going to be helping me out because it's really tough for me to do all this stuff on my own. And now she's just... she really wanted to work on her degree, because she wanted to be able to in the future help us out by getting a job. But the thing is, without much education it's hard to get anything highly paid. But at this point we just need to do whatever (recording distorted)
T: Do you think she's starting to resent the fact that she had to quit school and go to work to help you guys out financially?
C: Hey, you know what, that might be part of it. We're going to have to deal with that issue.
T: But is that affecting you in the bedroom?
C: (Laughs)
T: Hey, people want to know!
C: Surprisingly, none of this is affecting it, no.
T: Oh nice, nice - so Casey's getting some! Good for you. OK, about your hair - how much do you spend on highlights in your hair, and how often do you get it cut? We need to know!
C: This one's from about a year ago, it's been growing out really long, and I got highlights back in... when I was in Rio Rancho, when I was in Albuquerque last year trying to sell that Sonora property which I sold in an auction, which was really a fun sale. That was one of my successful deals, and I ended up getting highlights there because... well, you know, it's something you gotta do sometimes, to change your look.
PART THREE: CREDIT CARDS, TAKING OUT TRASH AND FLIRTING WITH NIGEL
T: So do you feel compelled at all to pay any of your credit card debt off?
C: Well, of course, it's not like I'm saying I wanna pay off every dirty penny just to make it sound good.
T: But like I said earlier, it's one thing to say you wanna do something but another thing to take some action, you know?
C: I know, I have a bit of a history for saying one thing and not doing anything about it, so I don't blame you. But at the same time I thought at the beginning it would be such an awesome story, a comeback story and show so much success to be able to pay everything back, but at the same time I think I had a bit of a wishful thinking going on because I didn't realize when I first started what kind of a hole I was in. The hole's so big that at this point I'm really out of options.
T: I know, I know, but you know what, you fill up a bucket one drop at a time, you know what I mean? You have to look at it that way.
C: Yeah, but here's what's going to happen. I pay a credit card, even fifty bucks, that doesn't do anything to the collection process. Here's what happens: it's gonna go and get discharged and then they're gonna try to sue me and try to get that money. So that fifty bucks could have been used better in something where I can actually make money, perhaps doing another deal...
T: Or maybe to go on a snowboarding trip? Well, maybe you could spend it there!
C: (laughs)
T: I mean, come on, think about that, though. Don't you feel bad doing those things knowing that you have debts to pay? Oh, good question, have you been taking the trash out regularly?
C: Are you the one that reminds me every time on the blog?
T: No, I'm not. I'm T - I'm the one who offered to help you with the Utah wrap.
C: Well, OK, you know... (Casey's reply distorted)
T: Well, I gave you my work details, so how much more do you need to trust me?
C: Well, you know how it is, I get so many calls and so many people trying to play pranks on me. (rest of reply distorted)
T: I understand.
C: But with the trash, I've been OK. I'd say about 75% success. There's been a couple of times I've seen the trash truck on its way and I'm running out the door to try to get the trashcan out, and there were once or twice when I missed it. But I'm doing pretty good, I think.
T: Do you and Nigel Swaby - do you guys have a flirtatious relationship?
C: (laughs)
T: You know, is there maybe a bit of bi-curiousness there? People wanna know?
C: Which way do you swing?
T: I like men, I like men. Big strong men.
C: Well, all right. I guess the name says it all, Nacho.
T: Nacho is my cat.
C: There's nothing going on. Look, he's married, I'm married, he's a blogger, I just wanted to talk with him about some possibilities for the future, so there's nothing going on. But people don't believe me, people make their own assumptions, so...
T: Yeah, that was a joke, I was just kidding. But he seems a little shystie, Casey, he seems like he's grabbing onto your coattails. How do you feel about that? I don't think that he's really a solid guy. But then again...
C: Well, if there's something coming back, I don't mind, some of the traffic and all that. So if it's a win-win relationship, it's all good.
T: Win-win! Drink! We're kind of joking - all your antispam words, everybody's having a drink every time you say one, so...
C: Yeah, they keep repeating them back to me. I guess those antispam words became a hit.
T: Yeah, they're pretty popular.
Might be a bit of a delay before the next instalment as I have to do some proper work, but I'll be back.
For the record, I'm about halfway through.
Last.
T, you rock.
"Did you disconnect on me. Oh you son of a..."
Hahahahahaha
Yeah Ratlab I liked that one. You son of a...
And then he comes back after he's had an opportunity to regain his composure and awkwardly signs off. It could not have ended more badly for him.
PART FOUR: JAMBA JUICE, PHONE BILLS AND HATERS
C: Hey, do you have any more things to say? By the way, I do like the name Nacho.
T: That's my cat, my cat's name is Nacho. I didn't think you'd take my call if I put my real name. So anyway... Jamba Juice - what's your favorite flavor?
C: You know what, Jamba Juice overall is not as healthy as people might think. It's definitely better than drinking Coke, but most of that stuff's frozen, and even though it's all natural, meaning there's no added sugar, I like my stuff fresh out of the juicer. So the only thing I really drink there is wheatgrass shots. I also do freshly squeezed OJ and freshly squeezed carrot juice.
T: Wheatgrass, does it give you gas? People wanna know?
C: (First bit distorted) You should try it, you know, it has a nice kind of a sweet aftertaste.
T: Does it give you the runs? Because it looks like it would.
C: Does it give you what?
T: The runs. Diarrhea.
C: No, it's good. Because normally, I spend a little extra time on the toilet and so wheatgrass comes out. You know what, the times I spend extra on the toilet is good because I can moderate my comments on the PDA in downtimes from my busy schedule. But then I still prefer to get the wheatgrass (distorted)
T: OK, another question. Your phone bill is extremely high. Don't you think that it would be in your and your creditors' best interests if you reduced it?
C: What's extremely high? I'm sorry.
T: Do you really need to check your comments on your PDA? Really, do you?
C: Yeah, I check it on there. Because, the thing is, I gotta keep them flowing. People start complaining when I'm not letting them through fast enough. And I tried to get some people to moderate for me, but there are some issues with that because there's the issue of accountability and who can I trust and that kind of stuff. So I've been trying to do it on my own as much as I can. But things are going to change moving forward. The future of this blog is that there's going to be less of me and more foreclosure help and more credible offers and I'm going to really take it to the next level with the help of some people.
T: Right, let's talk about the hater blog, because you talk about it all the time, like these people are out to get you...
C: They are, yeah.
T: Don't you think that many people went on to the other site so that their comments could go through, so that they could talk in real time because you were taking a really long time to moderate the comments? Don't you think they just wanted another place to speak the truth?
C: I don't mind them speaking the truth, but you know how it is, you've seen them. Wouldn't you agree that some of them go overboard? I mean, we're talking taking pictures of my family and putting some really nasty comments on them and even modifying some of the pictures. What would it be like if they did that to pictures of your wife and your family?
T: I understand, but that's why I make sure what I have on my MySpace or whatever is not pictures that people would take and use, and I haven't infuriated people and made people feel like part of what you did.
C: I'm honestly surprised at the level of hate out there. I have a friend who's a blogger and he says he's never seen haters this bad before.
T: I have to say this for Dolph, because he gets infuriated when people call us haters. We're realists, as my Miguel would say, and we just want the truth. And we feel that you're being shystie and really secretive and you're not being transparent.
Firstly, great responses all on Nigel's blog. I've now left a reply.
Good job last night on the chat again. I think, if anything, our community here will serve society a great purpose by keeping casey from doing any more deals.
LOL, to go back and see that Nigel wrote that lenders want defaults because that's how they make money. That's just beautiful.
Are Miguel's transcripts real? I can't be sure. They read like kickass parody. I heard only a few minutes of the pud-cast last night. It appeared Casey signed off, so I did, too. It's odd that he started again after the show appeared to be over. I guess I'll get the story later when I listen to the dowmloaded MP3. I wish I had time to do it right now. I hope it sounds better in the download version. The live show sounded as if Casey was being strangled underwater.
Yeah , Miguel's transcripts are real.
T
Props to you! Great interrogation of Snowflake, to the point where he melted.
NR
PART FIVE: JOBS AND STUFF
T: And also, you don't want to go get a job! You know, go get a job and do this stuff on the side! There's nothing wrong with that!
C: Are you saying I don't have a job right now? I mean, I've talked about how I'm doing consulting jobs and I have money coming in.
T: So are you, like, gonna pay taxes on that money?
C: Yeah, of course. I'm not doing cash under the table type stuff. I'm not dealing wheatgrass shots on the side here!
T: You're not?
C: No, no, no, I mean I like to consume 'em legally.
T: I understand you've been brainwashed by these gurus, I understand that, Casey. But there's nothing wrong with a real job, there's nothing wrong with that.
C: Oh, I'll be the first one to agree. You know, it's funny because every time I try to say something about a job, every time I say something, and I like to show both sides to people, everybody focuses on the fact that I'm saying the job is bad. I'm not saying the job is bad. In fact, if it wasn't for a stable job...
T: You're calling the people that work for a living cube-dwellers and W2ers and 9to5ers like they're wasting their life. You know, some people do things that they enjoy. I recently got a promotion, Casey, with a fat increase - that's nice. You know, that's nice.
C: Yeah, that's really good. When I was working at Pride Industries I really enjoyed the fact that I had a stable paycheck coming in. It's just that I got a little too impulsive. I should have kept my full-time job and I still do have money coming in from jobs I'm doing, and I may go back to a full-time job. There's nothing wrong with it.
T: Why can't you do those jobs on the side and work full-time as well? Don't you think that that would be what's best for your wife?
C: Are you really saying that everyone who's a realtor and everyone who's self-employed should go out and get a job? Are you saying self-employed is not a job?
T: OK, my friend's wife is a realtor. She works at Marty Rodriguez Real Estate, which is one of the largest real estate offices in the San Gabriel Valley. And she's already looking for other work.
C: Well, that's fine, not everyone's going to be successful and self-employed. But don't you know self-employed doctors or lawyers or successful realtors or anybody who doesn't have a W-2 but still makes money? It's not like W2's the only...
T: But you haven't been successful! So isn't it time to try something else?
C: Well, you know, I never said I'm not going to get one. I'm definitely considering that, and since I do still have money coming in through some of those other sources, it allows me to stay flexible so I can still kind of be in real estate a little bit, and other opportunities.
T: Do you understand that the real estate market is tanking? Do you have a grasp of that?
C: Oh yeah, that's why I'm looking at other investing opportunities, not just real estate.
T: And do you understand that you bought in at the worst possible time? You do understand that, right?
C: It's not like you can't make money in a down market. My local Rich Dad, he made his fortune in the last downturn in California. But of course he had a lot more experience.
T: Was he able to secure loans?
C: Well, he could secure loans, he had money partners, he had mentors. See, I kind of started off without any mentors guiding me, and that's kind of one of my problems. And I didn't have any construction experience.
T: You know what, Casey? I don't think mentors is your problem. I think you've got enough with these guru mentors. I think that that's the last thing you need. What you need is a kick in the ass, from somebody who's going to tell you the truth. Seriously. Someone who's going to tell you the truth.
C: I appreciate you being upfront and giving me a little dose of reality, as you said.
T: Well, that's how I roll, trying to keep it real. I'm just trying to let you know, man, that you need to start looking at things differently. You've been going a certain way and it's not working out for you, and you really need to change the way you're viewing life.
C: Well, I appreciate it.
T: Because everybody that you owe money to is going to get shafted, and then in turn taxpayers are going to have to pay... you know, foot the bill.
Are Miguel's transcripts real? I can't be sure. They read like kickass parody.
Thanks, but they're 100% real. If you download the MP3, start listening from 1:39:15.
Kickass is most definitely the word, though - as soon as I listened to it I knew it just had to be preserved in writing! And what I really love is the way that T planted all those little bomblets along the way - even subtle touches like saying "Sweet!" in response to Casey's witterings.
I think that entire time he must've been staring at that screen wondering whether to chance taking a more severe type of call vs. taking T's slow and steady beatdown. I think when things got to be too much (I think it started with the Top Ramen coversation and went downhill QUICKLY from there) he knew something had to give and hung up on her because he didn't know what else to do. That good 40 second break between T saying "You little sonofa..." Casey must have been sitting there flipping out trying to pull himself together.
Notice that in response to T's Casey/Nigel butt-piracy probe, Casey doesn't respond with "I'm straight" or "we're not homosexual", but just with "he's married, I'm married, nothing to see here."
Veeeeeeeeeery eenteresteeng, Dr. Jones.
By the way, here are yesterday's comment scores:
Rob D: 366
Casey: 79
Nigel: 27
Nigel, suck on that you comment-deleting douche. How does it feel to want something so badly and not be able to attain it, and see it come to someone else so easily?
NO TRAFFIC FOR YOU.
Rboy, good job on Nigel. I see a number of deleted comments. Was someone 'hatin the playa' over there?
PART SIX: FINANCIAL STRESS, RAMEN AND RELIGION
T: Are you worried about going to jail?
C: I've already kind of addressed it, but the thing is, if I live my life in fear, what good is that gonna do?
T: And you don't think that you deserve to go? You don't think that what you did was basic thievery?
C: Well, the thing is I wasn't out to rob banks, I was out to make a business and that screwed up.
T: But Casey, you did everything fraudulently. Come on, you knew in your heart that that was the wrong thing to do.
C: Part of me was thinking that maybe I shouldn't be doing stated income loans because even though everyone seems to be OK with it I had a little bit of a gut instinct. I should have listened to it, you're right.
T: And you understand that when you do things wrong like that, sometimes you have to pay the piper?
C: And do you think I'm paying the piper?
T: No, not yet. Not by any means, no.
C: You don't think that all the financial stress and the issues I'm going through is not enough?
T: Absolutely not, Casey - I think you should be out there working your ass off, two jobs if necessary, paying five bucks a month on every single bill if that's what it takes to pay this stuff down. I think you should be calling your creditors and making some sort of payment arrangement...
C: You know what? Check this out, put yourself in my shoes. Even if I get three or five or ten jobs right now I'm not gonna be able to catch all my loans up, so they're going to go to collections and they're going to start suing me. So if the only good thing I can really do right now is bankruptcy protection or refinance all those loans...
T: If you pay five dollars a month on any bill, they can't send it to collection, Casey, do you understand that?
C: Sure they can.
T: No they can't.
C: If I don't pay the full monthly payment I can't just keep letting them go... That means I can just pay a dollar on all my loans and they'll just keeping indefinitely. They're not gonna do that.
T: I'm not talking about the foreclosure loans, I'm talking about the credit card bills.
C: Even the credit cards.
T: You have to do something to try and right this wrong. Who's the guy who has the blog - I am 344thousand dollars, whatever the hell it is, in debt.
C: Yeah, the Ramen guy, he's eating Top Ramen, he's doing all this other stuff.
T: He's doing the right things. If you would do those things, people would be behind you. People would be giving you suggestions and telling you what to do. Do you understand that?
C: Well, you might have a good point there. But I wonder if that guy's really for real, though. Do you think a person can survive on Top Ramen for six months?
T: Oh yeah.
C: Do you think he can eat that crap and still be healthy and still be safe?
T: Yeah, throw some vegetables in there. Casey, the last thing you need to worry about right now, seriously, is eating your vegan... your mildly vegan... Seriously, you throw some vegetables and a little bit of whatever, some chicken in the top oven. Have some beans and rice, that's fine. Buy a big-ass bag of beans and a big-ass bag of rice and cook it up.
C: I do do that, I... (reply distorted)
T: It doesn't seem that way, Casey, it doesn't seem that way. And that's what people do when they're in debt. That's what people do when they're in debt when they know that God is watching them and want them to do the right thing. And you know this, you say you're Christian. You're Christian, right? Or are you Mormon?
(pause)
Did you disconnect on me? Oh, you son of a...
(click)
OMG!
I just got the time to listen.....
T! You rock!
"Did you just disconnect on me? Oh you son of a...."
Our little snowflake ran away!
Priceless!
Wait a minute - he speaks out against college education & says it won't make you the big bucks, then says this about his wife's college education??
"...she really wanted to work on her degree, because she wanted to be able to in the future help us out by getting a job. But the thing is, without much education it's hard to get anything highly paid. But at this point we just need to do whatever ..."
Ummm, don't you think that is a little contradictory??
It's pretty clear that snowflake a grasping at straws, unless he can sell his domain name for 500k and pay off all the debt (I am pretty sure he would just blow the money anyway)he is pretty much screwed.
LOL-
You could rest assured he would sink that 500K into an all or nothing play that would either end his life or make him rich. And of course he would choose the worst possible investment vehicle. I think Nigel said there was some good opportunities in the subprime lenders - maybe that's where casey will invest the proceeds of his site!
Man can someone explain this:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=LEND&t=5d
Gap ups every day including today...some hedgie is preparing the yank the rug out from under this one.
For the first time in this scam, Snowflake felt undeniable firsthand failure- in his face. He was expecting supporterts to call in. Instead, it was a fiasco, and when faced with criticism he did what he always does.
He denied accountability, lied, obfuscated, and ran away.
Snowflake, if you think that last night was difficult, wait until Homey gets a hold of you on the witness stand. You are both the most important and the most damning witness for your case.
Casey's lying about the Utah check search. Anyone else detect that?
T,
How the fuck did you not burst into laughter? Epecially when he started with the murse explanation?
You should look into becoming a talk show host. Pure genius.
-Big Cheese
Legion said...
Sorry I missed T's performance, she always struck me as sarcastically funny, and I always suspected she was kind of a badass.
I somehow always knew you knew these things about me. You totally "get" me. That’s why you’re one of my most favorite people on here.
Miguel said...
I missed it live, but I'll make amends to my e-girlfriend by transcribing the whole of her chat with Casey.
You spoil me. <3.
(Psst... should be "Top Ramen", not "top oven".)
:)
Big Cheese said...
T,
How the fuck did you not burst into laughter? Epecially when he started with the murse explanation?
You should look into becoming a talk show host. Pure genius.
I seriously have no idea. I just sorta held it together. I hadn’t planned on calling in but then he came back on Talkshoe and I was like, “Oh fuck it! LOL! Let’s have some fun!”
I wonder if my hero Stephen Colbert would be proud? Now he's pure genius.
Shit, I fucked up the bolding in my response to Miguel. I suck.
T,
Go easy on yourself there grrl. We luv u anyway.
T,
I know I'm a latecomer here, but I just listened to your exchange with Casey.. I think I'm in love. :) Seriously, you should consider a career in radio - I've heard a bunch of actual talk show hosts that don't handle themselves as well as you did there.
Beautiful..
did I read this right, he said his success rate in taking out the trash is 75%?!?!?! Wow, he won't even make it as a trashman.
T
I am at work - i was trying so har dnot to laugh during your BRILLIANT performance. That was great. I live in Phoenix, but i make it out to SD a lot to go surfing. I will have to buy you a jamba juice or something. That was great. Good job.
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Rob Dawg said...
T,
Go easy on yourself there grrl. We luv u anyway.
:)
T and Miguel:
Hats off to you both. T for her brilliant performance and Miguel for posting the text.
My office mates were wondering why the hell I was laughing to hard today. That was halirus.
Thanks, you made my weekend.
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Just want to post to this to make the comment count bigger :) Whee!!!
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