Thursday, March 09, 2017

We can’t stay all liberal and let everyone in

Wait.  It isn't what you think.  This is a classic.

Full context:

But Shelly Tan, a Los Angeles area parent, said qualified California students should have the advantage. Her own child was turned down by her top three UC choices two years ago, despite SAT scores and a grade point average above the 90th percentile. Her daughter ended up at a fourth UC campus.“Given the economic climate and competition, California parents have to start being selfish,” Tan said. “We can’t stay all liberal and let everyone in.”

Now the kicker.  "resident."   Go ahead.   Use the most cynical interpretation of that word and you will be right.  Provided you are sufficiently cynical. 

1982 NYTimes when it was a real news source:


LOS ANGELES, Dec. 27— California's public system of higher education, long the envy of many other states, is edging toward acceptance of something even Ronald Reagan, as Governor, could not force upon it: tuition.
The California Postsecondary Education Commission recommended earlier this month that the state abandon one of the cornerstones of its college and university system, a pledge that the state will pay instructional expenses for all residents.
The recommendation was the latest evidence of deep stresses bedeviling the long-admired California system of higher education. In hindsight, many educators say, the system was allowed to grow too large in the 1960's and is now having difficulty adapting to the falling birth rate, a state fiscal crisis and changing demands from students.
The no-tuition concept was embodied in the state's 1960 Master Plan for Higher Education, which established a three-tier system of free public higher education and led to vast expansion.

1970 a long long time ago:

 March 1, 1970

The escalation of the tuition by the Regents on February 20, dramatically reveals that we are now in what I have described as the “era of the politics of tuition.” It is no longer possible semantically to argue that we have not adopted the tuition principle in California because of the Regents' action and we can expect tuition consistently to be more a matter of budgetary consideration in the future and we can expect, I suppose, an even greater escalation in tuition.

The following figures are rather interesting: In 1956 the fee at the University of California for a semester was $42 or $84 a year; in 1957 the fee went to $50 per semester or $100 a year; in 1958 it went to $60 a semester or $120 a year; in 1962 it went to $75 a semester or $150 a year; in 1964 it went to $110 a semester or $220 per year: and in 1968 it went to $107 a quarter or $160 a semester for a total of $320 per year.

Fees, as between 1957 and 1970, increased, therefore, from $84 to $320, which means that they have increased four hundred percent, which is certainly much greater than inflationary increases over that period of time.

The Regents acted on February 20 to provide for an increase in the admission fee for 1970-71 over present levels in the amount of $150 a year or $50 a quarter, which means that the fee will be $320 plus $150—about $470 per year. In 1971-72 the fees will go up an additional $150 and reach the neighborhood of $600, having doubled over a two-year period. This is for undergraduates. Because of Reagan amendments to the modified Hitch proposal, graduate students will pay an additional amount which will be $180 the first year and $360 more the second year, which means grad students will be paying in 1970-71 about $480 per year and in 1971-72 about $660 per year.

Incidentally, no provision, as a consequence of the action taken by the Regents, was made with regard to low-income students, although the increase in revenues which will amount to about $7 million, as I understand it, will go to the University to be used for the purposes determined by the University.

Statements were made to the effect that every effort would be taken to utilize current scholarship and fellowship funds to take care of needy students. But, no specific action was taken, and, of course, this means that the students must take a means test. to obtain the additional money necessary to attend State College.

A $200 tuition increase produces $9 million. Since the University increased the tuition to $150, the state will be saved about $7 million. With a California population of 20,000,000 that is about 459 per person per year. The increase, however, will adversely affect the ability of students to attend because they must project the increased costs into the future. A student contemplating entering the University this year, who financially is a marginal student, will have to have $150 more income next year, $300 in 1971-72, and if there is no increase thereafter an additional $300 for two years in order to achieve an AB degree. This means that his increased expenses will be $1,050 over four years.

If the recent history of the tuition increases mean anything, a student can be assured that the tuition will be in excess of this amount by 1972-73 because the tuition, which is now a matter of budgetary politics, will, I am certain, be escalated.

A critical fact that is important is that Section 23753 of the Education Code provides that State Colleges may not levy a tuition in excess of $25 per year or $12.50 per semester. Out-of-State residents and foreign students pay tuition fees. They also pay the regular fees which the resident student pays.

The difference between a fee and a tuition fee is that a fee is used for non-instructional purposes—it is for student services such as parking, materials, medical health care, etc. It also is for student association buildings and things of that nature. There is every reason to think that the State Colleges, which now have combined fees of $158 a year, are in violation of the law. Certainly, if the State Colleges raise the fee to match the University's increase in tuition, the State Colleges, in my view will be in violation of the law because some of that money will certainly be used for educational purposes.

The point that I am making is that before the State Colleges can increase the State College tuition to match the level of the University's increase, the language in the Education Code will have to be changed. This will take an urgency clause if it is going to be put into effect for 1970-71. If this change is not achieved, it seem to me that there will be an immeasurable diversion of students from the University to the State Colleges next year. There is quite possibly likely to be, therefore, another crisis in enrollment, at the State Colleges, because we probably will budget adequately to take care of the University of California enrollments, but we will underestimate and under-budget the State Colleges.

The critical factor at the State Colleges is instructional staffing. In a couple of years the problem will be one of building—libraries, cafeterias, faculty offices, and things of that nature. Right now it is primarily a matter of staffing.

The Governor does not want lines of students denied admission to the State Colleges or the University next year. Every effort will be made to stop this, but I think that it will be very difficult to accomplish such a goal because of the confused picture with regard to tuition.


Unknown said...

continued from last thread...

so re: housing price increases over the past 30+ years..the interesting question(s) to me are:

how much is due to supply/ much attributable to "natural" much due to interest rates (i.e. houses acting like bonds...low rates=high prices)..??

all most likely are a factor..but I'm guessing if you gathered and plotted the data you would find a very strong (negative)correlation between home prices and the yield on the 10yT.

Rob Dawg said...

Prior to 2006 I would suggest price -appreciation- more closely followed the 10yT. Stickiness existed prior to the Great Recession.

So many things have changed. I've only done poorly (break even) on one real estate transaction in my life. Houses cost "more" because other things like food and clothing cost less. Houses command higher prices as one of the few remaining tax favorable things left to the middle classes. The ever declining resumption in lower occupancies makes what houses there are available more dear. People living longer but more importantly living independently longer has exacerbated the handing off of useful houses to people who need them more than the elderly that continue to live in them.

You raise a plethora of salient points.

Unknown said...

re: UC/CS fees/ compare those in-state fees to what they collect from out of state/intl students..and you'll see why there will be even fewer open spots for Kali kids..

W.C. Varones said...

UC Merced was built specifically as a dumping ground for California kids so they could sell the lucrative UCLA and Berkeley spots to out-of-staters.

Rob Dawg said...

UC Merced was also tacitly given to La Raza as the Hispanic campus. Disgusting.

Rob Dawg said...

Nasty bit of bond action recently. Anyone here surprised? Thought not.

Unknown said...

a friend of ours locked in her mortgage rate for a pending condo purchase a couple weeks ago at 4.20% (zero points)...looking like a smart move at this point..might be up in the 4.40% range by tomorrow

Lawyerliz said...

Son has 3.875%

Unknown said...

you have to know the points though to make a fair comparison..

Rob Dawg said...

Speaking of fair comparisons (okay, not fair comparisons) here is Feb 2009:

-651,000 jobs.

Unknown said...

I guess that could be the zero point FHA/VA rate from a couple weeks ago..the website I watch for rates shows a 35 bp difference between a 30 y conventional and 30 Y FHA fixed rate loan today (4.35 vs 4.00) and both are zero (or near zero) point quotes (if I'm reading the fine print correctly)..

Unknown said...

oy..looks like VA loans have a 2.15% "funding fee" paid to the the typical origination fee paid to the lending bank (normally 1%..but can be bought down)..guess that's why the rates start out lower than conventionals..

Lawyerliz said...

All that is rolled over into the loan. At my son's interest rate, it's what? 6$ a month?