Tuesday, January 09, 2018

Flooding in montecito

Mandatory evacuation Tues 09 Jan '18. 
This is a map of the recent mud flows that have destroyed many houses and snapped miles of telephone poles.  Click on the map and check out the for sale and recent selling prices. 

82 comments:

Lawyerliz said...

Dreadful.
Happy Florida news. . . Many pythons frozen. Gators can freeze and unfreeze sand survive.

Lawyerliz said...

Were these areas also burned ?

Cinco-X said...

And the number for today is seventeen...

Unknown said...

One of the roy moore accusers home has burned down. There's an ongoing arson investigation.

Rob Dawg said...

Great performance. Too bad he suffers from Flutie Syndrome.

Rob Dawg said...

They are starting to remove the first mud flow bodies.

Lawyerliz said...

Disasters didn't reduce prices?

Lawyerliz said...

All you guys need is a 6.5 earthquake.

Rob Dawg said...

Five dead so far.

Rob Dawg said...

The earthquake map shows the Long Valley Caldera (Mammoth Lakes) is waking up. Dozens this week.

Rob Dawg said...

One guy was smart. He had three cars packed up and ready to go. Decided it was time to leave. Went to the street and they were gone. Swept away.

Lawyerliz said...

Fate.

Cinco-X said...

Can you be more specific. I believe that flutie holds most of the QB records in the CFL

Rob Dawg said...

Fair or not Flutie was considered too short for the NFL. 5'10". Tua is supposedly 6'1" but....

LBD said...

Why are people in any of these houses?

Rob Dawg said...

Death toll now 11. Many not even in the mandatory evacuation zones. The fires were fast, the mudslides faster. CalTrans (DoT) doesn't even have a guess as to when the 101 freeway will reopen to even emergency traffic. It's a mess. Hard to convince someone in a 7000sf multimillion dollar mansion that their house will be ripped from the foundation and crumpled.

Rob Dawg said...

The 101 Freeway at the county line usually carries 75,000 vehicles per day in each direction. That's a lot.

Jim the Realtor said...

Now up to 5-6 inches of rain in the Ventura Mountains in two days!

Looks like just over an inch at your house - you staying dry?

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_forecast/getprod.php?wfo=lox&pil=RRM&sid=LOX

Lawyerliz said...

We just had an inch and a quarter, which isn't much here.

I much prefer hurricanes to that set of disasters

Lawyerliz said...

You can run from a hurricane and I have.
Insurance.payments are going to be incredible.

Rob Dawg said...

The bucket on the porch says we got 1.5-1.75 inches. Felt like a bit more. A few real strong bands. My ‘hood got nothing more than a clogged storm drain that clogs every time. The extreme variation over just a few miles from destroyed twice to here with nothing is amazing.

Lawyerliz said...

Reuters has the death toll up to 13.

Rob Dawg said...

Yup the evening news conference said 13. Understand they rescued a 14yo girl using the sniffer dogs and the jaws of life to find her in her crumpled Home. They also found a boy clinging under an overpass but no sign of dad. There are dozens of places they cannot even get to with the dogs. 300 people are trapped in a Canyon. The toll will rise.

Lawyerliz said...

I hope they don't rebuild there.

LBD said...

So sad and I feel like this was a known disaster just repeated.

Lawyerliz said...

One wouldn't leave. Didn't like Motel 6.

Lawyerliz said...

Another reported this wouldn't be so bad as fires, so he wasn't leaving.

Lawyerliz said...

Do we have enough Darwin awards?

Lawyerliz said...

Kali has a lot of flu.
To quote somebody, when do we get the frogs and locusts.

Lawyerliz said...

Is Dawg ok? His neighbors?

Rob Dawg said...

We had a pleasant rainstorm and beautiful sunset. Six miles away people planning to rebuild find they don’t have enough lot left on which to rebuild.

Lawyerliz said...

It fell into the ocean? Over a road? Completelt cover by enormous boulders? Building and zoning rukes change? The Mother Goddess decreeling tho shalt not rebuild!?

Lawyerliz said...

Oh, the misspellings! And the humanity!

Lawyerliz said...

Computer beat me up. I'm too dumb for dummies.

LBD said...

Well if it's not one thing it's another. Appears there is a clog in the oil line, Cath and probably a stent next week. Love modern medicine.

Rob Dawg said...

Careful LBD. Hospitals are full of sick people and sharp things. I won't relate my adventure with getting a cath. Two months shy of ten years ago.

Rob Dawg said...

Dawghaus damage assessment. A corner of decomposed granite in the xeriscape garden washed away. 20 min repair job. The rain exposed a mole problem in the back yard. The seed inhibitor likely washed away and needs to be reapplied. Nothing worth mentioning.

Unknown said...

drought over in 1 week?

Rob Dawg said...

There never was drought to end. The drought in practice ended last year.
The drought will never end. The technical drought is too politically useful.

Lawyerliz said...

So, were you close to a mud flow?

Rob Dawg said...

Close, yes and no. It's a mess six miles away. It is a disaster 20 miles away. My BiL is on the coast exactly where you are seeing the national news video. They are across the polo fields, 101 freeway and railroad tracks from the worst.

LBD said...

Double, triple the population and no increase in water reservoirs. Lets stress the natural drought beyond it's limits, That's political Kali.

Mean time here in the boring flat lands might get some rain snow mix.

Picosec said...

when there isn't a drought 85% of California's managed water goes to agriculture.

So what do you think gets hit when there is one?

Lawyerliz said...

Non agriculture.

LBD said...

That is the reason to keep up with water reservoirs for people and AG expansion. I remember around Bakersfield as desert in the 60's. Exceeding demand with out capacity really is man made. IMO

LBD said...

AG example 4000 gallons of water to produce 1 bushel of corn. Not unusual today to produce more then 200 bushels an irrigated acre compared to a 100 50 years ago. Natural balance is out of wack multiplying the drought cycle and severity. IMO

Lawyerliz said...

Yep an Yep.seems like you could figure out a crop that was at least very valuable. And used less water

Rob Dawg said...

I don't flaunt it here but I am pretty good at California water policy. A gallon goes into every almond. If rice farmers were manufacturing plants they'd be shuttered. It would be cheaper to buy and close every lettuce field in the State than to supply them with water. First year. Don't even get me started on cotton.

Lawyerliz said...

Yep and yep.

Lawyerliz said...

Reading a book that says Lucreyia and Alexander Borgia weren't really so bad. I don't believe it

Cinco-X said...

Michael Vick was only 6'1"

Picosec said...

Agricultural water policy in water-starved climates is a world-wide issue. Seems plants like a lot of sunshine and a lot of water and since you can't import sunshine you import water.

But keep in mind that food production can be a security issue. So it's not always black and white.

Let me ruffle some feathers...do we really need all that wine?

Lawyerliz said...

Iceberg lettuce isn't even particularly nutritious.

Lawyerliz said...

The wineries should build a desalinization plant or 2.

Rob Dawg said...

Good early morning.

17 dead, 16 missing. The 101 will be closed until Monday afternoon. The reason is far beyond debris removal. Mrs Dawg has to be in Santa Maria Sunday. That means driving almost to Bakersfield and then over the mountains. Four hours and likely more.

LBD said...

Good Morning!

What does a 3/4" water tap cost? Do AG wells have water meters on them? Just curious. :)

Cinco-X said...

And do you need to worry about arsenic on ag wells

Lawyerliz said...

Which, I assume, plants suck in. Yum yum.

Rob Dawg said...

17 dead. 26 injured. 48 missing. There are places they still cannot get to to check.

Rob Dawg said...

There are all kinds of taps. Cost depends on style and of course how inconspicuous you need it to be.

LBD said...

Base price of a residential, SWAG will do. I will assume AG does not have water meters.

Rob Dawg said...

You will want a ball valve and pressure regulator and anti-hammer chamber. $120.

LBD said...

I see Magic in wording. SM appears to be about $5,500. Ha Ha, Where as Aurora, CO goes into much more detail and I come up with $24,127 + wet fees and inspections for a 7500 sq ft residential lot.

Rob Dawg said...

$5,500 in SM would probably be enough to open a residential construction application.

sewer hook up: New Construction (up to 3 Bedrooms) $2,239.00
water meter: 1" $4,638.58 Plus $1,241.00 Total $5,879.58

LBD said...

I also guess no one has enough of a yard in SM to consider lot size. I did not include sewer in the estimate.

Rob Dawg said...

Here's a quarter acre lot in SM:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1628-Georgina-Ave-Santa-Monica-CA-90402/20476977_zpid/?fullpage=true

LBD said...

Crazy how it has changed. I am sure the bigger estates are still there. I drove a tractor from a ranch in SN canyon to the gas station at Lincoln and SM blvd. I bet you couldn't do that today.

EngineerJim said...

>17 dead. 26 injured. 48 missing.

Supposedly only 8 missing now. Some double counting happened.

Lawyerliz said...

What would take for the Montecito people to leave??

Rob Dawg said...

The 48 missing was KEYT 3ABC this morning. I suspect it wasn't supposed to be broadcast. Note there are entire neighborhoods still unsearched.

Montecito evacuate? There is no frame of reference that those people have that could be triggered spurring them to action. People in the voluntary zones who decided to get out early went to the driveway to find their vehicles swept away. Overwhelmed by events. Hard to fault them.

Lawyerliz said...

The Dow is very happy today,but we do need a pause

LBD said...

My stock poorfolio not so much, Funds to the moon! This is going to hurt someday soon. For now I am paper rich! :)

Guess I'm kind of chicken in my old age but the sound of rain would have me leave knowing how fast it can get out of control. It has happened so many times before in Kali.

Lawyerliz said...

You don't have to live there.

LBD said...

Nope, left in 78, to poor to live in the hills back then. I guess some value their stuff more then I would.

Lawyerliz said...

At silver snsakers. But blood sugar high.

LBD said...

Good Morning!

It appears T has no where to go with NK. Rocket man plays nice and continues his nuke program full speed.

Cinco-X said...

Morning y'all

Lawyerliz said...

He has no where to go period

Lawyerliz said...

Latest on fires and floods?

Lawyerliz said...

I did 25 minutes of an hours exercise

Lawyerliz said...

And good morning.😀 all.

Rob Dawg said...

New Post.