Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
Rent v. Own
2780 Avenida De Autlan
Camarillo, CA 93010
MLS ID#: 614107
This baby rents for $3300. But what about buying?
2780 Avenida De Autlan
Camarillo, CA 93010
MLS ID#: 613868
$1,219,000
5 Bed, 4.5 Bath
3,510 Sq. Ft.
0.18 Acres
So, a million dollar mortgage at 5.5% is $5677.89, taxes another $1200.
Cost to own is twice the cost to rent. Or the house is worth $600k if you prefer.
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That is a nice house on a golf course. The problem is that there were 2 million houses added last year, many of them too expensive for most people. In this case renting is definitely better.
They are kinda nice, built in 1998-2000, lots of ammenities. Tiny lots, I mean tiny. For some reason this one has a really low property tax. I suspect there must have been a tax transfer involved. These were selling new in the low $700s in 1999. The tax rolls say it was purchased for $550k.
AZdude, thanks for the kind words.
Yes, I'd put a 20% premium on owning but not for just emotional/ego reasons. I've got a 4.99% fixed and Prop 13 protection. I have no risk of housing turmoil in my life. That's a huge financial question mark I've eliminated.
I didn't include tax writeoffs because I just made the assumption that deduction benefits would be wiped out by price declines. I didn't account for inflation or rent increases either. This was just a snapshot. For that matter I didn't mention the $800 or so in lost returns from tying up a $200,000 downpayment.
We can if you want but for a lousy blog like this "own = 2 x rent" is close enough. Oh, and as to pride of ownership; Here's my backyard: http://users.adelphia.net/~techscan/Backyard2.jpg
Ventura #'s out - Down 8%. I wonder what the cheerleaders at the "star" have to say about this?
Mien Gott! I am $100,000 poorer than I was at this time last year! The horror! I'm sure the Star will have a section c page eleventeen small type report. I didn't know it would be out so soon. I wasn't even going to look for it until Friday. Thanks. Again, I am surprised that we "lead." We usually lag and extend. Maybe things are different this time.
In honor of a recent Buckaroo Banzi thread, an Airplane! quote:
"They Bought Their Tickets, They Knew What They Were Getting Into. I Say--Let 'Em Crash!"
Imagine the builders sueing for appreciation!
Nice of Mr. Bernanke to take a moment to snap a picture before dropping all of that paper ballast from his HELOCopter.
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I've mentioned how in my Sonoma County situation, my [old house] buyers are paying 3x the amount I am renting for [the new house] for the same square footage. There are advantages and disadvantages between the two places, but there is no way it is worth 300% difference either way.
Plus they would be lucky to find another fool for only a $60K loss in one year. They put down $50K downpayment, so it'd be $10K out of pocket plus fees. But they should be able to handle that since they are handling the $4K/mo carrying costs as far as I know.
(The above does not account for tax breaks.)
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