A license is about being qualified to do something. Sure it take thousands more hours in Massachusetts to become a beautician than a Real Estate Agent or Mortgage Broker. That's a different subject. No, I'm talking technical qualification. I don't care what color you are or how many legs you have or even if you are wearing fishnets... Alright, I do care if you are wearing fishnets but again, that is a different story. No, you pass the test, and again I don't care if the written portion is in Mixteca or Pig Latin, just pass it and then pass the oral/driving portion and I say "Welcome to America, you are qualified to drive." What's wrong with that? Of course for my plan to be that simple we need to make a few minor changes. • First, a DL is not to be used as a form of identification. Is the board certified diploma on the wall a form of identification? Good, we understand this point.
• Second, qualified is not the same as allowed. There's a bunch of other stuff expected before you start using the roads. Are you insured? Is the car registered and insured and in good operating condition? Are you in good health and otherwise unimpaired so as not to be a danger to yourself or others? Do you agree to obey the laws of the road and the land?
Anyone seeing the real issue here? "Drivers License" is the new code phrase for preferential citizen status. Wanting to drive legally here in the US is no big deal. Clearly my proposal for Drivers Licenses as nothing more than Drivers Licenses would satisfy any of the pro-invasionist advocates.
The only way to move forward on this issue is for the other side to admit this isn't really about passing the drivers test and getting certificated. Likewise; We confiscate the cars of suspected solicitors of prostitution. I smell an opportunity for new profit and probably the cheapest form of congestion relief around.
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Murst!
First, a DL is not to be used as a form of identificatio. Is the board certified diploma on the wall a form of identification? Good, we understand this point.
Sure, but what do you use instead? Declare drivers' licenses to not be identification, and the majority of Americans have no identification.
A somewhat related problem: Could you prove, if asked to do so by a police or INS officer, that you are a citizen? I couldn't, and I was born here.
A somewhat related problem: Could you prove, if asked to do so by a police or INS officer, that you are a citizen? I couldn't, and I was born here.
A drivers license used to work here.. but after allowing drivers licenses to illegals???...
What some people are trying to do is blur the lines between illegals and legitimate citizens, making enforcement of immigration laws impossible. There is a second hidden agenda... push to a national ID system to 'solve' the drivers license created problem.
Only kinda-sorta off topic,
I find it deliciously ironic that FoCloHelp began with driving Lamborghinis, moved on to wrecked Porsches, and ended it's pathetic little existence with a 4-wheel drive Short Bus.
One wonders if the next post will have a picture of a skateboard...or a shopping cart.
Legal residents are allowed to get a drivers license, and they are not citizens. So your license never proved you were a citizen.
Your birth certificate is all the proof you need, of course proving that you are the same person as the birth certificate says is another matter... if you were born overseas you need a few more documents, but smart parents in that case will have either got you a US passport or a US citizenship cert at their first opportunity anyway.
Of course if you are citizen you never have to prove it to the police or INS - which kind of makes the demands on non-citizens a bit hard to enforce.
I have a green card, I'm required to carry it with me and show it on demand to INS officers. But a citizen isn't required to carry anything let alone show it on demand, so if I say "I don't have one, I'm a citizen" what are they going to do?
It may be harder for people who, for some reason, such as race, dress (Muslim headscarf, for example) or accent (some people can't get rid of their accent even after 20 years in the country), or because they are found in the wrong place (in what may be a business staffed by illegals), are more likely to be suspected. If your name is Mohammed and have a foreign accent, you need your papers.
"Paper please" wasn't listed as one of the features of the US when I immigrated here. In fact I seem to recall the very opposite being high on the list of things that defined America.
The world would be a better place if there was no such thing as drivers and their licenses.
C'mon it is most definitively a rat under the bed (where the hell did red come from?).
Clearly, nothing is happening here. Back to Manchurian Candidate for the umpteenth time.
We confiscate the cars of suspected solicitors of prostitution
Who is "we", how do you define "suspected" and do they get their cars back if there is no case to answer?
I have real concerns about using the criminal justice system as a profit center for the government.
serinitis, you and me both. Its even worse. apparently being accused of a crime is enough to revoke all your rights to privacy and self incrimination. They catch you soliciting and your DNA is in a database forever. Doesn't matter if you were innocent, you are in a criminal database.
Notice also how the big penalties are for the easy crimes and the crimes people with money are likely to be caught doing?
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