Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Thursday, January 25, 2007
Safe Browsing
Hasn't everyone run screaming from IE 6? There isn't enough evidence yet to say IE 7 is bad and it is certainly much better than IE 6 but with all the choices why is anyone clicking into here with IE 6? Scary.
30 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Myself, I generally use Firefox at home, and Mozilla at the office, but that's because I'm one of the few here who are allowed to install Mozilla (or any other software, for that matter) on the office PC.
A lot of daytime work-break viewers you are seeing might be using locked-down PC's at work (like most of ours are) where they *have* to use the company's idea of a secure browser. And that's IE6 for now! (The company IT boys and management feel that their up-to-date security software is effective enough, I guess, versus the hassles of trying to upload IE7 to everyone.)
In fact, some of our bodgy outsourced web applications here (e.g. time reporting and HR info) don't even display data properly with some versions of Firefox. Hence again, feeding the company's reluctance to use anything but IE6. I wonder if those same apps even work right with IE7! Hmmm...
jbjbj, Good point. I knew about Firefox spoofing the query. Safari does this as well using a plug-in. The sitemeter pie chart would report both of those as IE 6. Maybe there is hope.
The interesting thing about Safari is that one reason some secure sites don't support it is because it is secure. A client needs a new password/seed everytime he logs onto his financial account under Safari but only once with IE. Gee, some secure site.
I'm an over 40 long time home owner and professional engineer who couldn't much care about the day to day ups and downs of any particular market, much less the irrational behavior of one individual and those who have nothing better to do than to follow his every move.
I used to come here to read substance, but those days are evidently over, to be replaced with complete idiocy.
BTW, I’m an under 40 long time home owner and professional (software/db/system) engineer and I think (Insert Ad-Lib here) Microsoft has finally stepped up to the plate with SQL Server 2005. More secure than Oracle, etc.
Hello, after checking the latest, and noting the 'Please don’t get me wrong… this is not really “about my story” in a conceited kind of way. Right now I’m in financial trouble and I need to start making money to pay the bills.' the comment link goes to a page saying 'This Account Has Been Suspended Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.'
I never thought our trainwreck would take place offline.
A PNG capture of the message exists - maybe it will just takesome more of that Casey magic sweetness, otherwise we will all need a jamba juicing to rinse away the emptiness in our lives. In his way, Casey was as groundbreaking as Jennifer Ringley in her heres - watching real time failure is about as good as watching some sit at a Mac for hours.
I think I am using IE 6. I have never had a problem....well mainly I only go to well established websites have no personal information on my computer and just use it to surf online.
I dont access any online banking, anything.
so the risk to me is minimal to sayu the least...my computer is just for entertainment pretty much.
I think I have some pictures of my son and I on our last vacation in July on here though.
I think I am using IE 6. I have never had a problem....well mainly I only go to well established websites have no personal information on my computer and just use it to surf online.
I dont access any online banking, anything.
so the risk to me is minimal to sayu the least...my computer is just for entertainment pretty much.
I think I have some pictures of my son and I on our last vacation in July on here though.
Upgrade to IE7. Per Rob Dawg - who isn't even a Microserfer - it just so happens to be a good idea. Also, as I understand it, Rob Dawg (correct me if I’m wrong) doesn't like being tagged as an “uncle” per se since he's a “cusper.” P.S. Rob Dawg, thanks for the forum.
Firefox only here, but need to use IE for some sites. When I upgraded to IE7, some of my applications that use html (like printer messages) wouldnt display properly, so I reverted back to IE6. Now even IE needs Service Packs after release.
I'm wondering if Casey's site got suspended because of nonpayment or some action that the Arizona women took in response to Casey posting their confidential contract. Seems a little too fast for something like that to happen, although I'm not that familiar with Arizona law. Could they have gotten an injunction so quickly?
I work for an organization that is slow to adopt newer technology and that also cockblocks practically every scripting language/active control from "the cloud".
"... much less the irrational behavior of one individual and those who have nothing better to do than to follow his every move. I used to come here to read substance, but those days are evidently over, to be replaced with complete idiocy. Too bad. Take care."
@ Anon 9:30 PM
As Robert has very often pointed out, the CS debacle is only to be discussed "as long as it is interesting" and will inevitably start to die a slow, shuffling death soon. At that point, the "idiocy" (as you call it)and its adherents will depart in boredom; and the rest of us who luckily found/find exurban nation along the way will quietly retreat to more "substantive" topics and the more-than-occasional obscure sci fi reference.
anon@1am said... what are the advantages of safari? (i have a mac, but prefer firefox)
They share the same grandparents. I think Safari has a smoother interface experience and Firefox is a bit snappier. There are several sites that explicitly do not support Safari, zillow for instance. Tossup IMO.
Shelfari is interesting. I'll set up my own shelfspace and you can see the stuff I read. On a related note Barry Ritholtz at BigPicture asked for DVD/CD recommendations. The vlists were all good.
Blog content. Yes, there has been some drift of late. Not everyone isgoing to happy all the time. That's an impossible task regardless. The archives go back to Jun '04. The first few years have interesting subjects worth revisiting as they have had very little exposure.
Regards Caseyworld™. The surrounding issues are the story. Where's the law? How many times is this being repeated withoutthe circus? I follow it because of the effect CS multiplied by millions has had on land use and sprawl. Look at the mess called Sacramento, aka Excremento. Without the nonesense of the last 8 years how many cookiecutter blandburg crimecrib developments are surplus? The mania and false demand caused developers to cave into planner demands for density and layout to our greater loss.
"I'm wondering if Casey's site got suspended because of nonpayment or some action that the Arizona women took in response to Casey posting their confidential contract."
What's curious to me is that Casey has said repeatedly that his site is hosted by DreamHost. But the "account suspended" message comes from a different host, HostGator.
Anyone else think it's funny that Casey made a deal for sponsorship on his web site and then his web site fails to live up to being able to advertise for his sponsors?
ablebuyer.com has also been zonked. Hosting is provided by hostgator.com, also.
Interestingly, buyingapartmentbuildings.com has name services provided by secureserver.net, not hostgator.com. I'm not sure if there's any relationship, or if secureserver.net might just be some DNS account thing.
Agree with Robert's comments regarding Safari vs. Firefox (also, Camino, the version of Firefox designed specifically for OS X, shares most of the same characteristics as Firefox).
From what I understand, one reason for Safari's smoothness is that it has a built-in delay when loading pages. There's a utility called SafariSpeed that will remove this delay. Even with the delay removed, pages still load smoother with Safari than any other OS X browser. Also, trackpad scrolling in Safari is much smoother than the other browsers (I'm not sure about wheel scrolling--haven't used a conventional mouse with Safari enough to notice the difference). I suspect the algorithms for scrolling acceleration in Firefox and Safari differ. Others may not notice, but I prefer Safari, even though it occasionally chokes on a website (gap.com comes to mind).
I installed IE 7 on a client's PC, and after installation, I couldn't get any websites at all to load. I uninstalled it and went back to IE 6, and the great interweb once again delivered its goodness.
I installed IE 7 on a client's PC, and after installation, I couldn't get any websites at all to load.
Not surprising. MS tried to make IE 7 securer and as a result broke just about every code hack every web monkey has been using for years. And Vista sure is a nasty bit o'hack. A freakin' OS and it took this long, has half the promised features and still comes with unblockable backdoors? If Leopard ever leaks out in a generic install form OS X would triple it's installed base in a week.
The generic Tiger was a huge success in the dark unspoken corners of the net. I think I have a copy around here someplace... Oh no, my bad. That would be illegal and unethical to have downloaded, installed and tested. Besides who wants to hear about a 1.6Ghz P4/512Mb whitebox running 10.4.6 50% faster than XP? Now, were that true and I have no way of knowing... Now that would be teasing.
30 comments:
Myself, I generally use Firefox at home, and Mozilla at the office, but that's because I'm one of the few here who are allowed to install Mozilla (or any other software, for that matter) on the office PC.
A lot of daytime work-break viewers you are seeing might be using locked-down PC's at work (like most of ours are) where they *have* to use the company's idea of a secure browser. And that's IE6 for now! (The company IT boys and management feel that their up-to-date security software is effective enough, I guess, versus the hassles of trying to upload IE7 to everyone.)
In fact, some of our bodgy outsourced web applications here (e.g. time reporting and HR info) don't even display data properly with some versions of Firefox. Hence again, feeding the company's reluctance to use anything but IE6. I wonder if those same apps even work right with IE7! Hmmm...
Firefox 2.0 with the IE 6.0 plug in for the win!
Opera from my home machine, though.
-jbjbj
jbjbj,
Good point. I knew about Firefox spoofing the query. Safari does this as well using a plug-in. The sitemeter pie chart would report both of those as IE 6. Maybe there is hope.
The interesting thing about Safari is that one reason some secure sites don't support it is because it is secure. A client needs a new password/seed everytime he logs onto his financial account under Safari but only once with IE. Gee, some secure site.
Rob Dawg,
Where's your Safari bookshelf?
I'd be interested.
Oops. Meant Shelfari. So many blogs so little time - skip letters on occasion.
Robert,
I'm an over 40 long time home owner and professional engineer who couldn't much care about the day to day ups and downs of any particular market, much less the irrational behavior of one individual and those who have nothing better to do than to follow his every move.
I used to come here to read substance, but those days are evidently over, to be replaced with complete idiocy.
Too bad.
Take care.
Dear Anonymous,
Substance is where you find it.
"It's all good."
BTW, I’m an under 40 long time home owner and professional (software/db/system) engineer and I think (Insert Ad-Lib here) Microsoft has finally stepped up to the plate with SQL Server 2005. More secure than Oracle, etc.
Hello,
after checking the latest, and noting the 'Please don’t get me wrong… this is not really “about my story” in a conceited kind of way. Right now I’m in financial trouble and I need to start making money to pay the bills.' the comment link goes to a page saying 'This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.'
I never thought our trainwreck would take place offline.
A PNG capture of the message exists - maybe it will just takesome more of that Casey magic sweetness, otherwise we will all need a jamba juicing to rinse away the emptiness in our lives. In his way, Casey was as groundbreaking as Jennifer Ringley in her heres - watching real time failure is about as good as watching some sit at a Mac for hours.
I think I am using IE 6. I have never had a problem....well mainly I only go to well established websites have no personal information on my computer and just use it to surf online.
I dont access any online banking, anything.
so the risk to me is minimal to sayu the least...my computer is just for entertainment pretty much.
I think I have some pictures of my son and I on our last vacation in July on here though.
I think I am using IE 6. I have never had a problem....well mainly I only go to well established websites have no personal information on my computer and just use it to surf online.
I dont access any online banking, anything.
so the risk to me is minimal to sayu the least...my computer is just for entertainment pretty much.
I think I have some pictures of my son and I on our last vacation in July on here though.
Upgrade to IE7. Per Rob Dawg - who isn't even a Microserfer - it just so happens to be a good idea.
Also, as I understand it, Rob Dawg (correct me if I’m wrong) doesn't like being tagged as an “uncle” per se since he's a “cusper.”
P.S. Rob Dawg, thanks for the forum.
Oooops - main page has been foreclosed too.
Now what?
Time to play First Life?
what are the advantages of safari? (i have a mac, but prefer firefox)
thanks!
Just tried to go to IAFC - site returned the message "Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible."
Looks like Casey has not paid his hosting bill.
Firefox only here, but need to use IE for some sites. When I upgraded to IE7, some of my applications that use html (like printer messages) wouldnt display properly, so I reverted back to IE6. Now even IE needs Service Packs after release.
I'm wondering if Casey's site got suspended because of nonpayment or some action that the Arizona women took in response to Casey posting their confidential contract. Seems a little too fast for something like that to happen, although I'm not that familiar with Arizona law. Could they have gotten an injunction so quickly?
That contract is stupid. The ISP wouldn't take it down on account of the Arizona retards. He probably just exceeded his bandwidth quota.
I work for an organization that is slow to adopt newer technology and that also cockblocks practically every scripting language/active control from "the cloud".
@ 9:30 PM, Anonymous said...
"... much less the irrational behavior of one individual and those who have nothing better to do than to follow his every move.
I used to come here to read substance, but those days are evidently over, to be replaced with complete idiocy.
Too bad.
Take care."
@ Anon 9:30 PM
As Robert has very often pointed out, the CS debacle is only to be discussed "as long as it is interesting" and will inevitably start to die a slow, shuffling death soon. At that point, the "idiocy" (as you call it)and its adherents will depart in boredom; and the rest of us who luckily found/find exurban nation along the way will quietly retreat to more "substantive" topics and the more-than-occasional obscure sci fi reference.
This is implicitly understood (and patiently awaited) by members of the Coté Clubhouse...thus your doctrinaire, holier-than-thou, "I'm outta here" gripe falls flat.
And I'd wager that no card-carrying Clubhouse member would take too seriously the notion that we ourselves visit because have "nothing better to do".
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, bub.
"There isn't enough evidence yet to say IE 7 is bad "
It sucks. I know 5 people that have installed it, only to uninstall it.
Metablog ramblings,
anon@1am said...
what are the advantages of safari? (i have a mac, but prefer firefox)
They share the same grandparents. I think Safari has a smoother interface experience and Firefox is a bit snappier. There are several sites that explicitly do not support Safari, zillow for instance. Tossup IMO.
Shelfari is interesting. I'll set up my own shelfspace and you can see the stuff I read. On a related note Barry Ritholtz at BigPicture asked for DVD/CD recommendations. The vlists were all good.
Blog content. Yes, there has been some drift of late. Not everyone isgoing to happy all the time. That's an impossible task regardless. The archives go back to Jun '04. The first few years have interesting subjects worth revisiting as they have had very little exposure.
Regards Caseyworld™. The surrounding issues are the story. Where's the law? How many times is this being repeated withoutthe circus? I follow it because of the effect CS multiplied by millions has had on land use and sprawl. Look at the mess called Sacramento, aka Excremento. Without the nonesense of the last 8 years how many cookiecutter blandburg crimecrib developments are surplus? The mania and false demand caused developers to cave into planner demands for density and layout to our greater loss.
Coté Clubhouse? I like it. We already have our secret code words, and even a pet [somebody clean that up, bad kitty.] I'll start enemies and friends lists with urls and links.
"I'm wondering if Casey's site got suspended because of nonpayment or some action that the Arizona women took in response to Casey posting their confidential contract."
What's curious to me is that Casey has said repeatedly that his site is hosted by DreamHost. But the "account suspended" message comes from a different host, HostGator.
What gives?
Anyone else think it's funny that Casey made a deal for sponsorship on his web site and then his web site fails to live up to being able to advertise for his sponsors?
lolz.
Casey is gone!!!
My IAFF fix has disappeared.
ablebuyer.com has also been zonked. Hosting is provided by hostgator.com, also.
Interestingly, buyingapartmentbuildings.com has name services provided by secureserver.net, not hostgator.com. I'm not sure if there's any relationship, or if secureserver.net might just be some DNS account thing.
Agree with Robert's comments regarding Safari vs. Firefox (also, Camino, the version of Firefox designed specifically for OS X, shares most of the same characteristics as Firefox).
From what I understand, one reason for Safari's smoothness is that it has a built-in delay when loading pages. There's a utility called SafariSpeed that will remove this delay. Even with the delay removed, pages still load smoother with Safari than any other OS X browser. Also, trackpad scrolling in Safari is much smoother than the other browsers (I'm not sure about wheel scrolling--haven't used a conventional mouse with Safari enough to notice the difference). I suspect the algorithms for scrolling acceleration in Firefox and Safari differ. Others may not notice, but I prefer Safari, even though it occasionally chokes on a website (gap.com comes to mind).
I installed IE 7 on a client's PC, and after installation, I couldn't get any websites at all to load. I uninstalled it and went back to IE 6, and the great interweb once again delivered its goodness.
I installed IE 7 on a client's PC, and after installation, I couldn't get any websites at all to load.
Not surprising. MS tried to make IE 7 securer and as a result broke just about every code hack every web monkey has been using for years. And Vista sure is a nasty bit o'hack. A freakin' OS and it took this long, has half the promised features and still comes with unblockable backdoors? If Leopard ever leaks out in a generic install form OS X would triple it's installed base in a week.
If Leopard ever leaks out in a generic install form OS X would triple it's installed base in a week.
Don't tease me.
The generic Tiger was a huge success in the dark unspoken corners of the net. I think I have a copy around here someplace... Oh no, my bad. That would be illegal and unethical to have downloaded, installed and tested. Besides who wants to hear about a 1.6Ghz P4/512Mb whitebox running 10.4.6 50% faster than XP? Now, were that true and I have no way of knowing... Now that would be teasing.
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