Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Friday, July 06, 2007
Big Fish Little Fish
I'm getting flooded with calls and emails about his lies! People are bursting to tell the truth. Someone is going to finally have enough and go first and then the floodgates will open. More on this later. Talk away.
You know, some people can still be remarkably appealing and interesting to speak to or listen to, even if you know in advance they are con men, murderers,or malcreants.
Casey has that gift.
Just like all gifts, it can be a curse, too, since I think he has learned to use his tools to manipulate.
So Why not?
I was always told to avoid trouble. That is good enough for me; to not either enable, help, or possibly even fall into league with someone so seductive in speech and manner, but so vapid at the core.
This is how stalkers are created, if he won't give up his percieved power over her, it could get ugly.
He's already trying - that's where this whole Mark-and-Duane-are-trying-to-fuck-Galina thing is coming from. Casey's beginning to build a narrative wherein he's the victim and Galina's being naive, foolish and unintentionally hurtful. Tonight he was debugging the story.
I agree that the marriage story is far from over here. I also think that he's working up this narrative for more than one reason, whether he knows it or not. If it doesn't fly with Galina, he can use it to snare a new woman, someone more pliable than Galina is (apparently) turning out to be.
Stalking is a possibility, but I kinda doubt it. Aggression isn't in the typical NPD profile - they prefer picking off the weak and slow at the rear of the herd.
"Stalking is a possibility, but I kinda doubt it."
I agree it's unlikely -- he would have to give a sh&t first.
The only appeal she has for him is in how she reflects things into Casey's life, not in any independent standing of her own. So once he decides she is of no further use, he will just detach, no problem.
I had a (psychiatrist) friend who had interviewed c. manson many times in prison. (note use of lower case). I guess I'm posting this because kc reminds me of her reminiscences.
Snackle, That would be soom drive. You are most welcome to come. Maybe you could find a supporter to fund a room or a McMansion to crash at!! te he (-:
Not to egg on Duane, but he is doing himself no favors:
1) Why be pissed? Shows emotion that some would feel is entirely inappropriate for the situation. Seems reinforcing to 'concerns' some have.
2) Saying you have only seen her once is same genre of thought -- almost reeks of desperate distant, unrequited interest of more than a friendly or business nature.
The best disinfectent for this corner of the saga is very obvious: distance and transparency.
Again, I don't know what standing either of these guys has legally, and I think whatever standing they have to interact with family is even murkier.
If the reason is to 'bring Casey to justice' then they are being 'used'.
I suggested either The Citrus Restaurant that just opened on North Orange Avenue, Downtown or Seasons 52 is second choice in Altamonte Springs, either Friday or Saturday night in 2 weeks. Then I have time to post it here on EN. Haterz Floriduh Beers!
I tend to agree w/Honestly Wondering and soem dood; I don't think Casey's gonna go Lifetime-movie stalker on Galina. I don't think he's the type to make breather calls, get violent w/her, etc. Like dood said, he'd have to give a shit first. (I could be wrong, but I don't think it's likely.) That's not to say he's not going to bug the shit out of Galina on some level 'til this is all settled in a court of law. Either he'll be bugging her via e-mail or phone not to say/do something, or he'll just ignore her and force her to get a default judgement against him, thus bugging the crap out of her by going into Galina Ignore Mode. (And perhaps a couple of not so thinly veiled swipes at her via IAFF --like the "Not Welcome Home" post-- will be in order until this is all somehow decided.) I'm sorry about this mess you're in, Galina; I hope this fiasco is over as quickly as possible for you!
It's getting harder and harder to understand Duane's excitement without knowing whats is really going on behind the scene. Guess we will have to wait to understand why he is getting off like this lately....
@John Panama In his opening statement, Casey explicitly stated he did NOT have a lawyer. Then he spends the rest of the talkcast going on about how he'll "discuss with his lawyer".
@ Jake, He loves himself too much to off himself. Glad you are doing better.
@ Honestly wondering, will do an announcement post as a reminder Wed. the 18th, hopefully as FIRST BITCHEZ! Is downtown okay. I love Citrus Restaurant cuz we can talk!!!!
I really do apologize for any nasty real-time comments I made. In a weird juxstaposition, people seem 'realer' to me on say EN, than on the talkcast, because I am interacting with people on EN, but not on talkcast, so it is easy for me to do stream of consciousness snark or observations.
The 'net does seem to allow us to easily dehumanise, and so while not trying to excuse my own conduct too much, I hope you were not too much hurt/offended.
I could sense the emoting you were doing, but it really did not come out as a lucid dialog to my ears, so that caused my own responses, but as you say nervousness, not expecting to get 'called on' certainly could weigh heavily.
Not that you owe anyone anything, but if you do care to further your points that were on your mind, I am all ears, or if not, that's cool too.
Honestly Wondering, Yep. So, then see you Sat 21st around 7:30pm or so. We shall tell the hostess who we are, 'EN Meet Up', and find each other that way.
Thanks for replying back. I was shaking so hard when he started talking to me and during the whole call. I was actually doing the laundry, so I was completely unprepared. When I was reading the comments, just started crying, still am, I should have looked when I was talking, I would have hung up right away. I guess I should take the suggestion of the one writer and disappear.
Posted at IAFF. I doubt it will be allowed through.
DUANE, ROB DAWG, AND LOSS MIT ARE DROPPING THE BOMB ON YOUR ASS OVER AT EN!!!
HAHA
GALINA IS A HATERZ STEVE IS A HATERZ ANNA IS A HATERZ ALEKSEY IS A HATERZ ROBDAWG IS HATERZ DUANE IS A HATERZ M SINGH IS A HATERZ CHJTS IS A HATERZ CASEYEDIA IS A HATERZ DECLAN IS A HATERZ AUSTRALIA IS A HATERZ ANNIE IS A HATERZ BENOIT IS A HATERZ
I'd love to meet up with you guys that weekend, but unfortunately I'll be in Vegas celebrating my bachelor party. Maybe I can convince my buddies to swing by Sacramento while we're there. :)
If you guys ever do another meetup, I'll be first in line to attend.
I'm sorry. Dang it, now, you are gonna make me cry too....
Please just blow it off -- it's not real life, in the sense that all these folks are separate, and no one really knows you or your situation, so blow off the misunderstanding/miscasting that might have occurred.
Hey, at least you hooked up live, I am still in full lurker mode!
@seb, RE: unfortunately I'll be in Vegas celebrating my bachelor party. ******************************** You Are kidding me, UNFORTUNATELY! LOL, congrats on the marriage and happy future.
When I thought in the past about what I would talk about if I ever talked to Casey would be: 1) If you so you're a Christian (or any religion) you get held to a higher stand. 2) My grandma told me a prayer she used to have for all of her children and grandchildren, the ending shocked me... If you do anything wrong, may God will punish you for it. 3) Family and most importantly your spouse is the most important thing is the world. Possessions are just shit. I was in the Red River Flood of 1997, and I lost most to all of my belongings, but my family was safe, which was the most important thing in the world. It was really scary living without a home, hotels, shelters, etc. I completely feel for the Katina victims. 4) Health/Suicide - I just wanted to make sure he saw a doctor and try to make sure he doesn't commit suicide. I was going to tell him about holding ice if you feel the need to hurt yourself. It's hard to feel that this real and I just don't want to see anyone die.
The person I care most about is Galina, so I wanted to speak in a way that she would understand that people care.
@Jake: Please don't be upset. Your only problem was that you're too nice. =] Haterz were expecting more, erm, vitriol. It was actually probably a good thing that you gave Casey a break, or he would've probably ended the Fraudcast right then and there, I could hear him getting so steamed. If I said anything to offend, you have my most sincere apologies.
@Jake I really don't think he'll commit suicide; he thinks much much much too highly of himself. But that's just my opinion, and of course, I wouldn't actually want him to die... I'd much rather see him get strung out in court.
Just talked to Casey...he has no lawyer...Although I did advise him to get a good lawyer and dig deep to just show up...$3000...at the least. Pay for it..and you'll walk out of court knowing more than you would without him.
The pictures I took are not that good...it's from a camera phone..and no focus and all that crap.
But I was next to him and took his pictures. He was nervous though. Cause I was close enough to smack his azz..and then cause a commotion and get hauled off to jail which is like down the street.
Really, Casey is pretty mellow..and takes his problems like that...
Still he knows he's in trouble. So he's asking for advice.
Those are well-said, and I think worth consideration.
I also got a lot more of the Old Testament" Wrathful/Vengeful God in my own upbringing, and it kinda turned me off of religion. I ended up discovering that many self-professed Christians, including clergy, see the most vital role for religion as providing a fear-factor [Hell fire, damnation, etc] for you to do right while here; otherwise, people could do any old thing they wanted!
This can be tested when you ask them questions that lead them to conclude (100% for the ones I spoke with) "Well, if there is no God, then man could just do anything with impunity!"
Well, man does do anything. And sometimes with impunity, sometimes not. Some get 'lucky' and never get caught.
I discovered independently that I tend to follow societies laws because they make sense in general, and not because of some mystery guy behind the curtain eyeballing my every move. I don't want people to take my stuff; society frowns and punishes people who take stuff, and so, I don't take others things, and expect similar treatment. Ditto marriage conventions, murder, etc.
Some of what my own society treasures is not treasured and is in fact rejected by other societies. Perhaps for good reason. But in any event, I don't need some supposed all knowing God to scare me straight.
Sorry to drift off into my own thing there, just wanted to acknowledge that you obviously have a lot of ideas on your mind and would like to find out Casey's own thoughts on some of this -- perhaps even to turn him to the right course.
I wish that were possible, but the more I see, the more I tend to agree that Casey is unlikely to change for real.
But that does not mean society has no interest in reeling him in. Who needs a vengeful firebreathing God when we have the IRS and many other mechanisms to enforce our collective will and order?
society deserves to be able to protect itself, like any organism, it is it's first order of business. Casey, IMHO, is a mop-topped, conniving leech, trying to freeload on other's efforts. And I cannot abide it, if I can influence it to be corrected.
Another night out on the street Stopping for my usual seat Oh, bartender, please
Tanqueray and tonic's my favorite drink I don't like anything colored pink That just stinks...it's not for me
It feels like somebody put something Somebody put something in my drink Somebody put something Somebody put something
Blurred vision and dirty thoughts Feel (out of place), very distraught Feel something coming on
Kick the jukebox, slam the floor Drink, drink, drink, drink some more I can't think Hey! What's in this drink?
It feels like somebody put something Somebody put something in my drink Somebody put something Somebody put something in my drink Somebody put something Somebody put something in my drink Somebody put something...in my drink...in my drink...in my drink...in my drink
So you think it's funny A college prank Goin' insane for something to drink Feel a little dry
Oh, I couldn't care what you think of me Cause somebody put something in my drink I can't think Hey! Give me a drink
It feels like somebody put something Somebody put something in my drink
Somebody put something Somebody put something in my drink
The one thing that was really funny after the podcast that happened.
Casey took off his headset....and then asked me to use the phone cause the disconnect was bad or something.....
So I let him use my phone...got a beer waiting for his arrival at the table..(He likes Fat Tire by the way)....then he says, "Those casts make me tired."
Since I did some undercover correspondence for all you (Florida for "ya", New York for "Youse", etc.) can you please send me a cash donation to my account to get me the F@ck home!!
Sac --> Stockton...how much can that cost..a beg-a-thon do I need!
Anyways, whomever I sent the pictures to let me know how they came out. Since I'm in the front line battlefields listening to this mess, I think you need to send me better equipment to get the good stuff up front.
Not at all-- the book I have for my "Introduction to Network Security" class (supposed to be prep for a combined Security +/CISSP) is the absolutely horrific Official Guide to the CISSP by some guy named Tipton and 50 billion other authors. I've gotten to page 6 (my first class was last night), and the book is every horrid bit of academic cliche that can be stuffed into a book. I think I'm going to have to look up the Shon Harris book, because this other one is atrocious.
I was originally looking to add a Sec + cert to the MCSE + LPIC I'm working on, but I'm finding security to be really interesting.
I liked the part early on when someone asked him about the various email addresses used at serin.us, about whether he could read all of them, etc. and he indicated that "some" are real and others are "assumed names" (was it?) that he used himself. Apparently the anna one is a pseudonym for Casey, but the galina one is not, or so he claimed. He also said there were other serin.us addys that were pseudonyms for himself but he refused to list which were which.
Actually I probably learned more about the kid than I needed to know.
And then again I got through to him just a little more than you haterz would.
You know I'm bullshitting you on this last line....anyways.
I did ask him.
1. Do you miss Galina? YES
2. Do you regret causing trouble being away from her? YES
After that a bunch of discussion where I felt like his uncle telling him what to do.....but a few time he did listen cause he looked at me while I was saying it.
And it wasn't a comment it was a suggestion.
"After your dad came over here from Russia and busted his ass to give you absolutely nothing, and put your mom in a position to get absolutely nothing, and raise you kids to be nothing, and your sister to do well in school for absolutely nothing, (huff, huff) do you feel your dad did it clean?"
Your sympathy is completely normal, but be careful not to "cast your pearls before swine". There's no one here who hasn't thought at one point that "if I could just talk some sense into that boy" . . . but it doesn't appear to work, you see. Thus the frustration and venting.
Your Grandma may have understood that God's chastisement can be a good thing if it brings about change. (Or it could be that she completely missed the point of Grace, either one).
Please don't worry or shed a tear over what some of the crazy people here thought of your talk with Casey. Think about it -- Friday night and what are we all doing? (I can't stand the thought myself).
The Guadalajara rental agreement was quite interesting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've never heard about that one until now. It was $3500 for 9(?) months. That is way to high a rate for that property. Roughly $30K of "Sweet Cash Back" that doesn't count as "Sweet Cash Back".
My guess is that Casey was supposed to pay the mortgage for 9 months in time for the builder/broker to get out from any obligations to the person who bought the loan.
At 3195/month the mortgage payment is just under he was getting as "rent". Figure 3000 total over nine months. Of course Fliptard doesn't realize everything else he has to pay, like taxes. Of course he doesn't pay for nine months and a little over a year later it goes to foreclosure.
He was very quiet about this house as well. He talked about the foreclosure but not about the deal.
We live in an NV homes development. The builder's models are always sold first to people like Casey. The builder pays the mortgage (so really an above-market rent) while the house is still a model.
In this development's case, the model was a model from 2002-2005, after which point the buyer has tons of sweet equity and could have then sold for a windafall profit.
In a down market, the scheme doesn't work so well.
Some of my thoughts on tonight's fraudcast and haterzcast.
It seems Snowflake has invented a new phrase: "Leekerz". This is for anyone in his "inner circle" who shares THEIR side of Snowflake's story. Notice how he talked down and eventually muted Duane when Duane tried to bring up his conversation with a tearful Galina?
(paraphrased)
Snowflake: What right have you to step into MY personal business? Who asked YOU to speak for my family?
Duane: Well, your brother Steve and your wife Galina did.
Snowflake: This is personal stuff you have no right to put this out on the internet.
Lather, rinse, repeat...
Duane, I'd have asked him "Why are you so afraid of the truth coming out?"
@Benoit:
If you're the internet's premier detective, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. What is it?
@Duane:
Since this has come up, here is my take on your motivations:
You offered your help to Snowflake because you felt sorry for some poor schlub who got in way over his head. After the official helping went south, you still maintained contact with him. Eventually, Steve and Galina contacted YOU for help. You are one of the seemingly increasingly rare GENTLEMEN, who wanted to help a woman in distress because IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO! And what's in it for you? The ability to sleep at night with a clear conscience. And to be able to look at yourself in the mirror when you shave with no shame.
As for that crap Pink Lips was feeding Snowflake, I can understand how he loved it. That made him the victim of a conspiracy. That's easier for him to accept than the consequences of his own actions and inactions. No reasonable person believes that crap for a second. It's a hell of a thing when someone has to defend himself for doing THE RIGHT THING.
Duane, I've run into some trouble myself. Some friends helped me out. I've since been able to pay them back the money they loaned me. I wouldn't think to insult them by offering them interest, so when it seems appropriate, I repay the interest forward. I suspect by trying to help Snowflake and by currently helping Galina, you're paying something forward. It's none of my business, but if you are, good on you!
The Guadalajara rental agreement was quite interesting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've never heard about that one until now.
It's described in the leaked audio files.
Casey bought a builders' model with an agreement that included the builder leasing it back as a show home for 9 months at a rate that pretty much covered the mortgage payments.
Casey found it irresistible because "hey, free house". But then when things went bad he started spending the lease payments instead of applying them to the mortgage.
It was a pure speculation play: Casey was betting on appreciation to get him out of it when the 9 months was up. He bet wrong.
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At 7:26 PM, christiangustafson said...
@ lawnmower man
"Why? Why not?"
Roger "Verbal" Kint
Keyser Soze.
You know, some people can still be remarkably appealing and interesting to speak to or listen to, even if you know in advance they are con men, murderers,or malcreants.
Casey has that gift.
Just like all gifts, it can be a curse, too, since I think he has learned to use his tools to manipulate.
So Why not?
I was always told to avoid trouble. That is good enough for me; to not either enable, help, or possibly even fall into league with someone so seductive in speech and manner, but so vapid at the core.
@Lisa
You did fine, Lisa. Welcome aboard!
Yes, good on you, he is a tough one to wrangle with.
Been there done that.
You go girl.
DUANE LEGATE IS ON THE LATE-NIGHT HATERZ CAST...!!!!
Woo! Extra HaterzCast.
This is how stalkers are created, if he won't give up his percieved power over her, it could get ugly.
He's already trying - that's where this whole Mark-and-Duane-are-trying-to-fuck-Galina thing is coming from. Casey's beginning to build a narrative wherein he's the victim and Galina's being naive, foolish and unintentionally hurtful. Tonight he was debugging the story.
I agree that the marriage story is far from over here. I also think that he's working up this narrative for more than one reason, whether he knows it or not. If it doesn't fly with Galina, he can use it to snare a new woman, someone more pliable than Galina is (apparently) turning out to be.
Stalking is a possibility, but I kinda doubt it. Aggression isn't in the typical NPD profile - they prefer picking off the weak and slow at the rear of the herd.
@Sprezz
Neither do I, but I think it's unavoidable at this point.
Granted, if he were that stupid, there's about 100 guys at least who would leave for Sacramento or wherever the worm was hiding to get him.
@ Honestly Wondering,
We are having a Haterz Beer Fest in Orlando in two weeks.
Your here, so do come.
The Fraudcast mp3 is ready! Enjoy!
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-8714/TS-32382.mp3
FlyingMonkeyWarrior ,
I'm half tempted to come. I'm over in Clearwater.
"Stalking is a possibility, but I kinda doubt it."
I agree it's unlikely -- he would have to give a sh&t first.
The only appeal she has for him is in how she reflects things into Casey's life, not in any independent standing of her own. So once he decides she is of no further use, he will just detach, no problem.
I had a (psychiatrist) friend who had interviewed c. manson many times in prison. (note use of lower case). I guess I'm posting this because kc reminds me of her reminiscences.
Snackle,
That would be soom drive.
You are most welcome to come.
Maybe you could find a supporter to fund a room or a McMansion to crash at!!
te he
(-:
I'm worried the drug usasge is going to get worse...
FMW,
I can probably be talked into it. :)
Where ya'll meeting, again?
Not to egg on Duane, but he is doing himself no favors:
1) Why be pissed? Shows emotion that some would feel is entirely inappropriate for the situation. Seems reinforcing to 'concerns' some have.
2) Saying you have only seen her once is same genre of thought -- almost reeks of desperate distant, unrequited interest of more than a friendly or business nature.
The best disinfectent for this corner of the saga is very obvious: distance and transparency.
Again, I don't know what standing either of these guys has legally, and I think whatever standing they have to interact with family is even murkier.
If the reason is to 'bring Casey to justice' then they are being 'used'.
All IMHO.
I suggested either The Citrus Restaurant that just opened on North Orange Avenue, Downtown or Seasons 52 is second choice in Altamonte Springs, either Friday or Saturday night in 2 weeks. Then I have time to post it here on EN.
Haterz Floriduh Beers!
I tend to agree w/Honestly Wondering and soem dood; I don't think Casey's gonna go Lifetime-movie stalker on Galina. I don't think he's the type to make breather calls, get violent w/her, etc. Like dood said, he'd have to give a shit first. (I could be wrong, but I don't think it's likely.) That's not to say he's not going to bug the shit out of Galina on some level 'til this is all settled in a court of law. Either he'll be bugging her via e-mail or phone not to say/do something, or he'll just ignore her and force her to get a default judgement against him, thus bugging the crap out of her by going into Galina Ignore Mode. (And perhaps a couple of not so thinly veiled swipes at her via IAFF --like the "Not Welcome Home" post-- will be in order until this is all somehow decided.) I'm sorry about this mess you're in, Galina; I hope this fiasco is over as quickly as possible for you!
*sniffle* feeling a little sad that California is getting a Haterz Con.
I think Saturday, since these Friday nights at home stay so exciting and addicting.
It's getting harder and harder to understand Duane's excitement without knowing whats is really going on behind the scene.
Guess we will have to wait to understand why he is getting off like this lately....
Didn't KC mention at one point early in the talkcast that he did in fact have a lawyer? What did he pay this lawyer with?
We have tried to get a Haterz Con together here CA but the geographic spread seems to be a bit too much of a challenge.
The Dude is on!
Appreciate you guys chatting.
@John Panama
In his opening statement, Casey explicitly stated he did NOT have a lawyer. Then he spends the rest of the talkcast going on about how he'll "discuss with his lawyer".
FMW,
Give me a couple days' warning here on EN. I can do a Sat night get-together, either location.
NAO re: law-talkin' dude
I missed all references to that (hooked in late), but it is possible that Casey was doing what accomplished liars do:
1) "Do you have a lawyer? " A: (truth) "Nope."
2) "What do you intend to do blah blah.." A: "I will have my lawyer do this... that... the other..."
What Casey might have done is transfered from what is actual to what he deems is possible or he can invsion happening in some scenario.
So Casey "sees" a pro bono law-talkin'-dude workin on his behalf, and so he talks as if it is so....
Is it a lie? Not if *you* believe it...
Uh, Jake? When you screw yourself online, it's best to shut up and let it fade away. Don't keep babbling and make it worse. Learn from Nigel!
Benoit is on!
NYC represent!
@ Sprezz -- :-)
@ Jake,
He loves himself too much to off himself.
Glad you are doing better.
@ Honestly wondering,
will do an announcement post as a reminder Wed. the 18th, hopefully as FIRST BITCHEZ!
Is downtown okay. I love Citrus Restaurant cuz we can talk!!!!
Jake:
I really do apologize for any nasty real-time comments I made. In a weird juxstaposition, people seem 'realer' to me on say EN, than on the talkcast, because I am interacting with people on EN, but not on talkcast, so it is easy for me to do stream of consciousness snark or observations.
The 'net does seem to allow us to easily dehumanise, and so while not trying to excuse my own conduct too much, I hope you were not too much hurt/offended.
I could sense the emoting you were doing, but it really did not come out as a lucid dialog to my ears, so that caused my own responses, but as you say nervousness, not expecting to get 'called on' certainly could weigh heavily.
Not that you owe anyone anything, but if you do care to further your points that were on your mind, I am all ears, or if not, that's cool too.
Duane was showing a 'card', a reveal, and the talk cast thingy went DEAD!
Say it again Duane, I did not hear you.
TELL US!
@FMW,
Citrus is fine by me.. many, many worse things than Lake Ivanhoe at night. :)
Duane, you're killing us here!
OMG Duane... IT'S CASEY HIMSELF!
Honestly Wondering,
Yep.
So, then see you Sat 21st around 7:30pm or so. We shall tell the hostess who we are, 'EN Meet Up', and find each other that way.
This whole baiting and holding back is getting real old real fast.....
No sekrit handshakes?
Well, then at least drop the poker hand on the table...
I am getting tired of the tease, guys.
@ soem dood,
Tomorrow.
FMW,
Calendar marked.
FMW == tomorrow...
[sigh] Hokay, hokay..... but even on Christmas eve we open *ONE* present before trundling off to bed... so....? he he
Tonight pretty much rogered my hammerstein.
@soem dood
Thanks for replying back. I was shaking so hard when he started talking to me and during the whole call. I was actually doing the laundry, so I was completely unprepared. When I was reading the comments, just started crying, still am, I should have looked when I was talking, I would have hung up right away. I guess I should take the suggestion of the one writer and disappear.
Yes, now to get the word out. I wonder how many of us there are here.
Rob, we need a first or a murst post.
(-:
Posted at IAFF. I doubt it will be allowed through.
DUANE, ROB DAWG, AND LOSS MIT ARE DROPPING THE BOMB ON YOUR ASS OVER AT EN!!!
HAHA
GALINA IS A HATERZ
STEVE IS A HATERZ
ANNA IS A HATERZ
ALEKSEY IS A HATERZ
ROBDAWG IS HATERZ
DUANE IS A HATERZ
M SINGH IS A HATERZ
CHJTS IS A HATERZ
CASEYEDIA IS A HATERZ
DECLAN IS A HATERZ
AUSTRALIA IS A HATERZ
ANNIE IS A HATERZ
BENOIT IS A HATERZ
and....
MOCHA IS A HATERZ!
WE R ALL DA HATERZ
WERE IN UR INNER CIRCLE
KNOWIN UR SECRETS
FMW,
I'd love to meet up with you guys that weekend, but unfortunately I'll be in Vegas celebrating my bachelor party. Maybe I can convince my buddies to swing by Sacramento while we're there. :)
If you guys ever do another meetup, I'll be first in line to attend.
@ Snackle,
You are invited.
(-:
Let us know.
@seb -- don't go to the NY NY casino, I hear it's killer!
Jake:
I'm sorry. Dang it, now, you are gonna make me cry too....
Please just blow it off -- it's not real life, in the sense that all these folks are separate, and no one really knows you or your situation, so blow off the misunderstanding/miscasting that might have occurred.
Hey, at least you hooked up live, I am still in full lurker mode!
@seb,
RE: unfortunately I'll be in Vegas celebrating my bachelor party.
********************************
You Are kidding me, UNFORTUNATELY!
LOL, congrats on the marriage and happy future.
Yea, Jake,
It is no big deal.
You can even turn into someone else on line if you want.
Fugitaboutit!
HUGS
@ FMW
lol, thanks. You think Casey is stressed, he isn't planning a wedding with less than a month left to go. :-P
@FlyingMonkeyWarrior,
I will need to think about it and check my schedule as it will be a haul and I really don't like to drive at night. I'm old. haha I'll let you know.
Seb,
Wow, but "it's all good" stress for you, right?
We will blog about it for you and we shall do it again.
FMW
@6:49 Elizabeth:
At least the CISSP book is more interesting than this rambling woman.
Oh, you're familiar with Shon Harris' stuff??? I did my CISSP four years ago, with only one simple book.
Casey just went to his truck to get some documents to show me...I can't wait.
@Michael
Truck?
Right on! Make it a weekly feature to have an audio debunking session following any Fraudcast.
Amzes me that Casey himslef likes to stick to that title. Seriously, would any one of you use that to identify an audiocast about your own activities?
IMHO, speaks volumes about what he values -- famous is good infamous is just as good.
When I thought in the past about what I would talk about if I ever talked to Casey would be:
1) If you so you're a Christian (or any religion) you get held to a higher stand.
2) My grandma told me a prayer she used to have for all of her children and grandchildren, the ending shocked me... If you do anything wrong, may God will punish you for it.
3) Family and most importantly your spouse is the most important thing is the world. Possessions are just shit. I was in the Red River Flood of 1997, and I lost most to all of my belongings, but my family was safe, which was the most important thing in the world. It was really scary living without a home, hotels, shelters, etc. I completely feel for the Katina victims.
4) Health/Suicide - I just wanted to make sure he saw a doctor and try to make sure he doesn't commit suicide. I was going to tell him about holding ice if you feel the need to hurt yourself. It's hard to feel that this real and I just don't want to see anyone die.
The person I care most about is Galina, so I wanted to speak in a way that she would understand that people care.
I like M. Singh, but I am not ILMS. No, he's not a troll, Dude.
Guess what song they are playing right now over the speakers in Capitol Gargage...."Hateful" by the Clash.
This place is so intimate!! I must say I like it. Come to the Capitol Garage while in Sac and visiting Arnie!
If he;s truly wearing a Ramones shirt, rip it off his back.
How dare he disrespect them.
@Jake:
Please don't be upset. Your only problem was that you're too nice. =] Haterz were expecting more, erm, vitriol. It was actually probably a good thing that you gave Casey a break, or he would've probably ended the Fraudcast right then and there, I could hear him getting so steamed. If I said anything to offend, you have my most sincere apologies.
@Jake
I really don't think he'll commit suicide; he thinks much much much too highly of himself. But that's just my opinion, and of course, I wouldn't actually want him to die... I'd much rather see him get strung out in court.
Casey just went to his truck
What truck?? Another rental with sweet corporate credit? :-p
@Michael
Please email Schnapps, she's got a # you can send pictures to. schnapps013@gmail.com If you can send the photos tonight, that'd be awesome.
Just talked to Casey...he has no lawyer...Although I did advise him to get a good lawyer and dig deep to just show up...$3000...at the least. Pay for it..and you'll walk out of court knowing more than you would without him.
I don't think Casey has the money though...
hmmmm I cannot create an account at caseypedia. Is it closed or am I doing something wrong?
The pictures I took are not that good...it's from a camera phone..and no focus and all that crap.
But I was next to him and took his pictures. He was nervous though. Cause I was close enough to smack his azz..and then cause a commotion and get hauled off to jail which is like down the street.
Really, Casey is pretty mellow..and takes his problems like that...
Still he knows he's in trouble. So he's asking for advice.
Another Coor Lite for me....
Oh, he asks for advice all the time.
The he runs it through the casey filter which removes any suggestions that require work or hardship and decides it was bad advice.
Jake:
Those are well-said, and I think worth consideration.
I also got a lot more of the Old Testament" Wrathful/Vengeful God in my own upbringing, and it kinda turned me off of religion. I ended up discovering that many self-professed Christians, including clergy, see the most vital role for religion as providing a fear-factor [Hell fire, damnation, etc] for you to do right while here; otherwise, people could do any old thing they wanted!
This can be tested when you ask them questions that lead them to conclude (100% for the ones I spoke with) "Well, if there is no God, then man could just do anything with impunity!"
Well, man does do anything. And sometimes with impunity, sometimes not. Some get 'lucky' and never get caught.
I discovered independently that I tend to follow societies laws because they make sense in general, and not because of some mystery guy behind the curtain eyeballing my every move. I don't want people to take my stuff; society frowns and punishes people who take stuff, and so, I don't take others things, and expect similar treatment. Ditto marriage conventions, murder, etc.
Some of what my own society treasures is not treasured and is in fact rejected by other societies. Perhaps for good reason. But in any event, I don't need some supposed all knowing God to scare me straight.
Sorry to drift off into my own thing there, just wanted to acknowledge that you obviously have a lot of ideas on your mind and would like to find out Casey's own thoughts on some of this -- perhaps even to turn him to the right course.
I wish that were possible, but the more I see, the more I tend to agree that Casey is unlikely to change for real.
But that does not mean society has no interest in reeling him in. Who needs a vengeful firebreathing God when we have the IRS and many other mechanisms to enforce our collective will and order?
society deserves to be able to protect itself, like any organism, it is it's first order of business. Casey, IMHO, is a mop-topped, conniving leech, trying to freeload on other's efforts. And I cannot abide it, if I can influence it to be corrected.
Casey is driving off in a gold Toyota truck...2002 or 2003..pretty decent...somebody care about him...
When they post tonight's FraudCast, I'll grab it and upload to my domain.....link to follow
Michael, If you need somebody to host the pics....send to me at: livingintyler@gmail.com
I'll create an album and post the link
At 8:28 PM, Mouse And Pencil said...
If he;s truly wearing a Ramones shirt, rip it off his back.
How dare he disrespect them.
"somebody... somebody... somebody put something in my drink!!!!!"
FraudCast is uploading now...be just a couple of minutes
Today's fraudcast is now up on talkshoe.
@snackle: hmmmm I cannot create an account at caseypedia. Is it closed or am I doing something wrong?
Signup information is here.
It's not closed; it's just not open for immediate signup, to prevent vandalism by trolls.
Dickey Ramone is turning in his grave right now....I'm sure there's a Dickey in that band cause at the end everyone else was..
Another night out on the street
Stopping for my usual seat
Oh, bartender, please
Tanqueray and tonic's my favorite drink
I don't like anything colored pink
That just stinks...it's not for me
It feels like somebody put something
Somebody put something in my drink
Somebody put something
Somebody put something
Blurred vision and dirty thoughts
Feel (out of place), very distraught
Feel something coming on
Kick the jukebox, slam the floor
Drink, drink, drink, drink some more
I can't think
Hey! What's in this drink?
It feels like somebody put something
Somebody put something in my drink
Somebody put something
Somebody put something in my drink
Somebody put something
Somebody put something in my drink
Somebody put something...in my drink...in my drink...in my drink...in my drink
So you think it's funny
A college prank
Goin' insane for something to drink
Feel a little dry
Oh, I couldn't care what you think of me
Cause somebody put something in my drink
I can't think
Hey! Give me a drink
It feels like somebody put something
Somebody put something in my drink
Somebody put something
Somebody put something in my drink
Nice work Michael! :D
Hope you have a designated driver, hehe.
The one thing that was really funny after the podcast that happened.
Casey took off his headset....and then asked me to use the phone cause the disconnect was bad or something.....
So I let him use my phone...got a beer waiting for his arrival at the table..(He likes Fat Tire by the way)....then he says, "Those casts make me tired."
"Those casts make me tired."
"These pretzels make me thirsty"
mundane...
mendacity...
mediocre...
malevolent...
So I let him use my phone...
What number did he call? hehe... Dial it yourself, see who picks up, and then pose as Casey to get some juicy tidbits ;-)
Okay now,
Since I did some undercover correspondence for all you (Florida for "ya", New York for "Youse", etc.) can you please send me a cash donation to my account to get me the F@ck home!!
Sac --> Stockton...how much can that cost..a beg-a-thon do I need!
Anyways, whomever I sent the pictures to let me know how they came out. Since I'm in the front line battlefields listening to this mess, I think you need to send me better equipment to get the good stuff up front.
FOr all of those pissed off and still up.
I will be doing an impromptu haterzcast TONIGHT....It will start sometime in the next hour to an hour an a half.
I have some stuff that must be taken care of and that is the absolute soonest I will be able to get to it.
Their will be 2 haterzcasts next week also.
Tonight's program is proudly sponsored by Benoit, the internet's premier detective.
Current TalkCast is here
Enjoy
Mouse And Pencil said...
So,what have we learned.
He's scared of Annie and T.
:)
@ Mike:
Not at all-- the book I have for my "Introduction to Network Security" class (supposed to be prep for a combined Security +/CISSP) is the absolutely horrific Official Guide to the CISSP by some guy named Tipton and 50 billion other authors. I've gotten to page 6 (my first class was last night), and the book is every horrid bit of academic cliche that can be stuffed into a book. I think I'm going to have to look up the Shon Harris book, because this other one is atrocious.
I was originally looking to add a Sec + cert to the MCSE + LPIC I'm working on, but I'm finding security to be really interesting.
I liked the part early on when someone asked him about the various email addresses used at serin.us, about whether he could read all of them, etc. and he indicated that "some" are real and others are "assumed names" (was it?) that he used himself. Apparently the anna one is a pseudonym for Casey, but the galina one is not, or so he claimed. He also said there were other serin.us addys that were pseudonyms for himself but he refused to list which were which.
New Thread and I got firsts!
CHJTS -
Let us know what time.... sounds as if it might be 10:30 p.m. or so, correct?
At 6:53 PM, Annie said...
CHJTS
We need a haterz call this weekend to respond and speak to all of Casey's one sided love himself
IT IS COMING IN AN HOUR
BTW please note I'm not claiming to be the real JP, I just admire the man. ;)
Actually I probably learned more about the kid than I needed to know.
And then again I got through to him just a little more than you haterz would.
You know I'm bullshitting you on this last line....anyways.
I did ask him.
1. Do you miss Galina? YES
2. Do you regret causing trouble being away from her? YES
After that a bunch of discussion where I felt like his uncle telling him what to do.....but a few time he did listen cause he looked at me while I was saying it.
And it wasn't a comment it was a suggestion.
"After your dad came over here from Russia and busted his ass to give you absolutely nothing, and put your mom in a position to get absolutely nothing, and raise you kids to be nothing, and your sister to do well in school for absolutely nothing, (huff, huff) do you feel your dad did it clean?"
Well, at least he said "Yes"
"Well that's how you have to dk it." Said Me.
I impail..impair...impose...
Mikey
@Jake,
Your sympathy is completely normal, but be careful not to "cast your pearls before swine". There's no one here who hasn't thought at one point that "if I could just talk some sense into that boy" . . . but it doesn't appear to work, you see. Thus the frustration and venting.
Your Grandma may have understood that God's chastisement can be a good thing if it brings about change. (Or it could be that she completely missed the point of Grace, either one).
Please don't worry or shed a tear over what some of the crazy people here thought of your talk with Casey. Think about it -- Friday night and what are we all doing? (I can't stand the thought myself).
The Guadalajara rental agreement was quite interesting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've never heard about that one until now. It was $3500 for 9(?) months. That is way to high a rate for that property. Roughly $30K of "Sweet Cash Back" that doesn't count as "Sweet Cash Back".
My guess is that Casey was supposed to pay the mortgage for 9 months in time for the builder/broker to get out from any obligations to the person who bought the loan.
At 3195/month the mortgage payment is just under he was getting as "rent". Figure 3000 total over nine months. Of course Fliptard doesn't realize everything else he has to pay, like taxes. Of course he doesn't pay for nine months and a little over a year later it goes to foreclosure.
He was very quiet about this house as well. He talked about the foreclosure but not about the deal.
Harriet said...
There's no one here who hasn't thought at one point that "if I could just talk some sense into that boy" . . .
Been there, done that.
Oh, and three hundred murst, bitches!
The Guadalajara incident was incredible too...he squimmed here quit a bit too.
The one thing I want to confirm is that he has the browser open to EN nation to watch what you say.
Casey is a big fan of Exurbannation.blogspot.com..
@Likkered,
We live in an NV homes development. The builder's models are always sold first to people like Casey. The builder pays the mortgage (so really an above-market rent) while the house is still a model.
In this development's case, the model was a model from 2002-2005, after which point the buyer has tons of sweet equity and could have then sold for a windafall profit.
In a down market, the scheme doesn't work so well.
I should clarify. The builder pays rent, but at the rate that the mortgage payments cost.
The buyer (like Casey) is still expected to pay the mortgage, of course.
Some of my thoughts on tonight's fraudcast and haterzcast.
It seems Snowflake has invented a new phrase: "Leekerz". This is for anyone in his "inner circle" who shares THEIR side of Snowflake's story. Notice how he talked down and eventually muted Duane when Duane tried to bring up his conversation with a tearful Galina?
(paraphrased)
Snowflake: What right have you to step into MY personal business? Who asked YOU to speak for my family?
Duane: Well, your brother Steve and your wife Galina did.
Snowflake: This is personal stuff you have no right to put this out on the internet.
Lather, rinse, repeat...
Duane, I'd have asked him "Why are you so afraid of the truth coming out?"
@Benoit:
If you're the internet's premier detective, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. What is it?
@Duane:
Since this has come up, here is my take on your motivations:
You offered your help to Snowflake because you felt sorry for some poor schlub who got in way over his head. After the official helping went south, you still maintained contact with him. Eventually, Steve and Galina contacted YOU for help. You are one of the seemingly increasingly rare GENTLEMEN, who wanted to help a woman in distress because IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO! And what's in it for you? The ability to sleep at night with a clear conscience. And to be able to look at yourself in the mirror when you shave with no shame.
As for that crap Pink Lips was feeding Snowflake, I can understand how he loved it. That made him the victim of a conspiracy. That's easier for him to accept than the consequences of his own actions and inactions. No reasonable person believes that crap for a second. It's a hell of a thing when someone has to defend himself for doing THE RIGHT THING.
Duane, I've run into some trouble myself. Some friends helped me out. I've since been able to pay them back the money they loaned me. I wouldn't think to insult them by offering them interest, so when it seems appropriate, I repay the interest forward. I suspect by trying to help Snowflake and by currently helping Galina, you're paying something forward. It's none of my business, but if you are, good on you!
Thanks for the info Harriet. I suppose it's possible that Snowflake bought a model home. He still probably listed it as owner occupied.
The Guadalajara rental agreement was quite interesting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've never heard about that one until now.
It's described in the leaked audio files.
Casey bought a builders' model with an agreement that included the builder leasing it back as a show home for 9 months at a rate that pretty much covered the mortgage payments.
Casey found it irresistible because "hey, free house". But then when things went bad he started spending the lease payments instead of applying them to the mortgage.
It was a pure speculation play: Casey was betting on appreciation to get him out of it when the 9 months was up. He bet wrong.
If you're the internet's premier detective, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. What is it?
Pi? ;-)
"It was a pure speculation play: Casey was betting on appreciation to get him out of it when the 9 months was up. He bet wrong."
The saddest thing is that this was probably Casey's smart deal. At least for 9 months he should have been able to break even.
Me (to Benoit) @ 9:28 pm:
If you're the internet's premier detective, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. What is it?
Benoit @ 9:58:
Pi?
Me @ NOW:
DAMN! I bet you even can tell what finger I'm holding up now too!
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