Thursday, March 30, 2017

The Magic Molecule


About 18.950 years ago something natural happened.  Snowball Earth started warming.  There were a few detours along the way.  The Minoian Warm, the rRman Warm, the MWP, The Younger Dryas, etc.  Variation on variation.  Then about 70 years ago all that stopped and whatever natural process(es) were causing the steady general warming stopped and handed over the job to a magic molecule; CO2. 

Sounds silly when you hear it that way but that's what the current consensus claims. 

71 comments:

Rob Dawg said...

Florida Woman:

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article141657284.html

LBD said...

The Co2 caused it. ;)

Mike said...

If the Co2 purveyors would donate less money to the R's (or better yet..switch to the D's)..I suspect you'd hear a lot less complaining about it..

Lawyerliz said...

Why is this controversial? Co2 causes warming and so does a lot of other stuff.

Mike said...

so does a lot of other stuff.

Hollywood celebrities flying in their personal jets to pick up environmental awards??

Mike said...

It's more the politicizing (and hypocrisy) from the left that drives me crazy on this issue.

I actually support continuing to aggressively raise fuel standards on cars..if for no other reason because I'm sick of caring what's going on in the Middle east..

Lawyerliz said...

Yeah, and Trump emitting hot air.

Lawyerliz said...

Agreed.

Lawyerliz said...

It's very complicated, the models are bad which the modelers freely admit. The are cycles interacting with othercycles, there's the sun which has its own troubles. All no reason to stop studying.

Mike said...

Yeah, and Trump emitting hot air.

at least Trump doesn't pretend to care about the issue..now Obama (Mr Green!!) taking Air Force One for a Hawaiian vacation three weeks before he leaves office..that i have a problem with.

Rob Dawg said...

I think the CAFE hatchet needs to be scrapped in favor of a scalpel. Huge pick-ups with equally large profit margins subsidizing econo-boxes so the "corporate average" looks better is not science.

The Obama 54.5mpg is unreasonable in the time frame allotted.

Mike said...

The Obama 54.5mpg is unreasonable in the time frame allotted.

np...gas tanks with max 2 gallon capacity.. lol

Mike said...

While not his primary reason, you could also argue that Trump's push to get manufacturing brought back into the US will do way more for reducing Co2 emission levels than anything Obama came up with..(closer to end customer = reduced transportation needs)..

Seems to me "environmentally friendly globalist" is a bit of an oxymoron

Rob Dawg said...

Seems to me "environmentally friendly globalist" is a bit of an oxymoron

I'd go further and claim exporting pollution in this fashion is unethical.

Mike said...

Recycling is another great example of lefties enacting laws that make them feel better about themselves..but actually aggravates the problem they are trying to solve..

Rob Dawg said...

One of the big light bulbs in my education was when "recycling" went from voluntary to mandatory. We were getting $085/lb prior and then getting back $0.63/lb after paying a "deposit fee" of $1.10/lb up front.

Cinco-X said...

Trump can't create that energy.

Mike said...

Instead of one exhaust billowing garbage truck coming out every week..now we have two (one for "regular" garbage..and one for the recycling..which nobody really uses anyways)...

Cinco-X said...

About 18.950 years ago something natural happened. Snowball Earth started warming.

I don't recall 1996 being that cold...

Mike said...

alright...errand time...

catch you guys later..

Lawyerliz said...

Every body recycles here.

LBD said...

Cheap people are generally good recyclers. ;)

Lawyerliz said...

It took.me a while to get that.

Rob Dawg said...

FRUGAL!

LBD said...

I am extravagantly cheap and proud of it.

Lawyerliz said...

My grandmother was cheap. I am enjoying her money. As did my mom.

LBD said...

I enjoy making money and yes my kids will have fun with some of it.

Lawyerliz said...

Hub forgot launch. We saw cars parked on the causeway and realized what was for and parked. On way to restaurant on Cocoa Beach.

Lawyerliz said...

10inutes. Kinda windy.

Rob Dawg said...

Is this the first ever reused launch vehicle?

Lawyerliz said...

And iTs off.!

Lawyerliz said...

Except for the shuttle. Hes not sure about suborbital.

Rob Dawg said...

The EFT was throw away. The SRBs got entirely rebuilt. The shuttle itself was pretty much 25% rebuilt at every turn. I don't count the shuttle and I am not alone.

Lawyerliz said...

Well the launch was cool and a car pulled over in front of us impulsively, with a little kid who got to see it.

Mike said...

How much Co2 with that launch?? snicker/snicker

Lawyerliz said...

Oh, stuff it.

Mike said...

hey just trying to stay on topic!!

LBD said...

I was thinking the same thing. That's a big tail pipe. Ducks and runs!

Lawyerliz said...

Sure.

Lawyerliz said...

Humpgff.

Mike said...

Q. What types of propellants are used in the Shuttle? How much do they weigh?
A. At liftoff, an orbiter and External Tank carry 835,958 gallons of the principle liquid propellants: hydrogen, oxygen, hydrazine, monomethylhydrazine, and nitrogen tetroxide. The total weight is 1,607,185 pounds.


https://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/information/shuttle_faq.html#12

Lawyerliz said...

Liquid oxegen and kerosene for the Falcon 9.

Mike said...

that's why they launch out of Florida I guess..so it just all blows over to Europe.. ;<)

Lawyerliz said...

Bah.

Mike said...

now I understand why they are always so concerned with wind speed and direction at launch...lol

Mike said...

what's interesting about the map that Rob posted is how much of Alaska was not under glacier...

Rob Dawg said...

And those are modern coastlines. Gloria was 2-3 times larger and there was a Bering land bridge then as well.

Lawyerliz said...

Gloria? You mean Florida?

Lawyerliz said...

Yeah you do mean Florida, which has varied between huge and shrunken to a nub and some islands. there us no normal.

Lawyerliz said...

Is.

Lawyerliz said...

The Hub is havING a guest editorial in Florida today. With a picture! On Internet Sat nite. Paper copy in Sunday paper.

Yay.

Rob Dawg said...

Sometimes it seems the internet is messing with us on purpose.

Which paper?

Lawyerliz said...

Florida Today. On line tomorrow nite. Fishwrap Sunday Morning.

Cinco-X said...

Yankee thrift!

Cinco-X said...

Morning all... It's beginning to snow outside my window

Lawyerliz said...

Good morning. Not snowing here! It is cloudy.

Lawyerliz said...

Wake up east coasters.

LBD said...

Good Morning!

No snow but scattered showers today.

Denver is now 24th in apartment rental cost. 1 bd $1,210 and a 2 bd $1,680. 3+ times a house rental here in the Flat Lands. Kali money continues to take over Kalirado.

Elizabeth Merceret said...

You have rentals in Denver?

Elizabeth Merceret said...

There has been reusable suborbital flights by Blue Horizon. Space tourism, among other things targeted.

Elizabeth Merceret said...

What's the median income in Denver? Would the Kaifugees want to buy a "cheap" house, not rent?

LBD said...

Goog says 2015 was about $70K. The problem is pushing long term Denver residents out of the area in to the burbs. Buying in the city of Denver has gone nuts. I don't have anything in Kalirado anymore. The Kids condo (rental in Aurora) according to Redfin is up 162% over her purchases price. Nuts.

Mike said...

G' morning everyone..

sunny..and might hit the 60's today (for the first time this year- woo hoo!!)...think I'll get a nice long bike ride in...

Lawyerliz said...

Will they sell?

Lawyerliz said...

Daughter in Boston expects snow/sleet. . Not happy

Lawyerliz said...

10 year below 2.41.

LBD said...

I don't think so. Not sure she even knows, to busy getting married. She did just get a 7% raise and is expecting a big bonus soon. Proud Papa. :)

Mike said...

segment on the local news last night about shortage of "maritime" workers down at the Seattle waterfront (not union dock workers..who can make well into six figures..but all the other folks needed to keep a bustling port area working).


They are taking kids right out of high school...putting them through a year long training period..supposedly the jobs pay from $45K to $60K per year to start (when they finish training)..not bad for just a high school degree.

LBD said...

A BIG hold back for a lot of these jobs is passing a drug test. Quality jobs paying premium pay have reasonable standards. Sad.

Mike said...

yeah i could see them requiring strict drug testing..you are many times out on the water with other peoples lives in your hands..

Lawyerliz said...

Yep!