Wednesday, May 23, 2007

Duane LeGate Part 2.4 Keep Me Accountable

Everyone who is bored, don't read. This isn't fiction and it sure aint a summer movie with nice endings and pat sequel possibilities. 1/26/07
Duane, take a look a the abuse email I got below... Looks like Joy and the crew are fighting back. They put in a complaint with my hosting provider and that's why I got shut down. Problem is that the abuse department hours don't open up for another 2 hours and I couldn't do anything to resolve the issues right at this moment.

But if its THAT easy for somebody to shut the website down then I need to think of a PLAN B for my hosting RIGHT NOW.


--
Casey Serin


From: Hostgator Abuse [mailto:abuse@hostgator.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:38 PM
To: casey@serin.us
Subject: [Abuse #POF-657999]: DMCA COMPLAINT :: iamfacingforeclosure.com

Dear Customer,

Your account on the gator25 has been suspended due to a DMCA complaint. Due to the nature of the complaint we have are required to take action. From our Terms of Service:

Use of our services to infringe upon any copyright or trademark is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to unauthorized copying of music, books, photographs, or any other copyrighted work. The offer of sale of any counterfeit merchandise of a trademark holder will result in the immediate termination of your account. If you believe that your copyright or trademark is being infringed upon, please email abuse@hostgator.com with the information required. A list of required information may be found here. If the request is of a licensing issue, we may require further documentation.

If you feel this claim is unfounded or untrue, please fill out a counter dmca complaint form from http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca/counter512.pdf
and submit it to us.


[COMPLAINT]
o whom it may concern,

I am writing this to demand the removal of the content displayed at the domain http://www.iamfacingforeclosure.com/. Casey Serin or domain author
has:

- posted confidential information regarding Erin Morgan, Joy O'Day and TAO Realty, L.L.C. despite having signed an NDA. The signed NDA is posted on the site with repeated admissions to the signature of the NDA.
- posted, and allowed his bloggers to post, untruthful and slanderous information in effort to defame the character of the parties aforementioned
- posted a link to a video created and owned by Robert Kiyosaki and / or Cashflow Technlogies / Rich Dad as well as posted, and allowed his bloggers to post, untruthful and slanderous information in effort to defame the character of Robert Kiyosaki

Casey Serin, iamfaingforeclosure.com and applicable persons or entities will soon be party to litigation for his actions. If your company continues to host Casey Serin's blog, your company, by its inaction, could potentially be a party to this litigation as you have been formally notified.

===================
Formal Declaration
===================
I hereby state that Erin Morgan, Joy O'Day and / or TAO Realty L.L.C.
is the owner of the exclusive rights referenced above and that I am authorized to act on its behalf. On behalf of Erin Morgan, Joy O'Day and / or TAO Realty L.L.C., I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that use of the content in the manner complained of is not authorized by Erin Morgan, Joy O'Day and / or TAO Realty L.L.C., its agents, or the law.

I, Jeremy O'Day, hereby digitally sign this e-mail message under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America with the additional statement under penalty of perjury that the information in the notice is accurate.

XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX

Regards,
Rich G.
HostGator Technical Support / Abuse Team Lead
1/26/07
Any word from Gator?

Call and email... in a respectful fashion... but have them make you a priority... the squeaky wheel gets the grease

Duane LeGate

From: Casey Serin [mailto:casey@serin.us]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:33 PM
To: 'Duane LeGate'
Cc: 'Shane Pike'
Subject: RE: any word from gator..

I was granted FTP and control panel access. So I can get all the stuff down. I want to just go ahead and take this opportunity and get everything onto Mosso. Its 100/month. Can we make that happen?

Duane, you're blog is getting very popular! Did you see the comments coming in. Supportive ones too!

1/26/07
Shane.. can we check with rackspace/mosso and see if we can get casey up?? Tell them we will stand behind the site and make sure that no copyright stuff is getting up there...

Casey if we do this keep your nose CLEAN from that standpoint...

We can quietly get the contract back our on other peoples sites...

Duane LeGate

1/26/07
Casey,

Randy spoke to rackspace and they laughed about the whole thing.. they said they deal with WAY worse issues than that and any complaint would have a MINIMUM of 8 hours to be addressed.

I think you probably need to see if you can get back up on gator today, then work on transferring to masso

Duane LeGate
1/26/07
To Casey
NLL IS DOWN


From: Shane
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:18 AM
To: 'Casey Serin'
Subject: Getting Back Up and Running

Casey,
If you need help getting IAFF back up and running on a new host, just let me know. I have moved WordPress sites to new hosts many, many times (just recently this last Tuesday), so I know the process inside and out. I know you know what you're doing, but I wanted to offer just in case I could out help in any way.
-- Shane
1/26/07
Any room on your server for my site? At least temporarily
Casey Serin
Hey Duane, take a look at the agent response below (whom I contact via HBN)

She is not experienced in short sales... A good idea would probably be to start partnering with agents that are short sale experts because that would be the true meaning of "FAST SALE" agents.

Just a thought for later...
But right now we have more urgent stuff to worry about.
Casey Serin
916-595-9632

www.IamFacingForeclosure.com <- my story www.Serin.us <- join my mailing list
==========================

-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:33 PM
To: Casey Serin
Subject: Re: HELLO

Hi Casey
Sorry to say that I am not experienced in short sales, I just attended a seminar on short sales and have a list of quite a bit in this area. If you like I am willing to help you but I have to say they are not easy sales...
Let me know how I can help!
----- Original Message -----
From: Casey Serin
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:36:59 PM GMT-0800 US/Pacific
Subject: RE: HELLO

Are you experienced with short sales?
--
Casey Serin
916-595-9632

www.IamFacingForeclosure.com <- Handling Mistakes, Foreclosure and Debt

www.Serin.us <- It's been UNBELIEVABLE but there is More to Come! Join my Mailing List for Important Announcements and Occasional Updates

P.S. I have recently been invited to work with a group that does big commercial loans, hard money and private equity. Do you know anybody who needs 10 million dollars or more to fund a BIG real estate deal, development or business project? Will look at all. We're also looking for SERIOUS investors with 1 million liquid or more for a couple of "invite-only"
projects. Referral fees offered.

AS I am doing a copy and paste.. I missed this tidbit about the 10 million in loans…. WOW… anything for a cut huh??

As soon as the abuse department opens up (in 30-60 min) I will be asking them about turning me back on. I'm gonna remove some of the "questionable"
stuff and see if they let me put the site back online.

Thanks for checking into things for the hosting Shane. Host gator has a dedicated server offering at 175/mo but I'm not sure if I wanna go with them if its that easy to scare them. However, their support is very fast, which I like.

Casey Serin
916-595-9632

www.IamFacingForeclosure.com <- my story www.Serin.us <- join my mailing list
-----Original Message-----
From: Shane
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:53 AM
To: 'Casey Serin'
Subject: RE: [Abuse #POF-657999]: DMCA COMPLAINT :: iamfacingforeclosure.com

Alright, we're making calls now to see what we can work out. We don't have
*great* connections, but we're working what we have. (We'd actually just put you on one of the HBN servers, but we don't run Linux and Windows doesn't support the .htaccess settings that you need to make your permalinks
work.)

In the meantime, though, would HostGator turn you back on if you told them you were taking down all the content in question? They're probably not in any hurry to look at the case since they don't make much from you, but we're trying to get you up as fast as possible, and that would save the several hours it would take for DNS to propagate.

Let me know!

-----Original Message-----
From: Casey Serin [mailto:casey@serin.us]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:07 AM
To: shane
Subject: FW: [Abuse #POF-657999]: DMCA COMPLAINT :: iamfacingforeclosure.com

This is why, see below. Joy O'Day and the crew are trying to fight me.


--
Casey Serin
1/26
From: Duane LeGate [mailto:duane@housebuyernetwork.com]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:12 AM
To: 'Casey Serin'
Subject: RE: [Abuse #POF-657999]: DMCA COMPLAINT :: iamfacingforeclosure.com

Casey., do you have 3-way calling?? If so I want to be on the call with gator
1/26/07
Yes I have 3 way... Should I do your cell phone?



--
Casey Serin

From: Duane LeGate [mailto:duane@housebuyernetwork.com]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:23 AM
To: 'Casey Serin'
Subject: READ

Casey,

We posted the reason for you being down here. please look at and approve..
if its okay. please blast to your friends

Duane LeGate
1/26/07
I didn't see anything attached

Casey Serin

1/28/07

Casey,

I have been thinking about what we had talked about.  I have no problem expanding our relationship but a few things need to happen. 

At our office,  we treat everyone like family, because 1) it is the right thing to do, and 2) you will spend as much time with us as you do your immediate family.

That being said, I look for stability as well as skills when making a hire.  I think you would admit the stability part is shaky at best (yours that is).

You need to take on all of your debts head-on, in a proactive manner instead of a reactive one.  These are nothing more than massive storm clouds waiting to bust.  Casey, you have serious legal issues out there.   You need to take steps to make amends, work out a plan, then hope like hell they don’t come after you for fraud.  You may have not meant to screw anyone, or you may have not meant to commit X violation, but you did.  With your high notoriety, some prosecutor may try and make a name after himself and hang you from a tree.

Staring at bills or not contacting your lenders will only provoke them further and aggravate the situation.  Like the 50K promissory note on Larchmont, you CAN work out ALL situations.  TO do that, you need to have cash flow, to have that you need to be employable, and to be that, you need to have a plan of action.

So, here goes.  I want a written report by 5pm EST this Friday, February 2nd.  The report needs to include an update on all lenders, where you stand with them , and what plan you and the lenders have worked out.

I had suggested this last week, I think you will admit it did not happen.  I know you are working on projects for Chris and you need money.  Guess what, you are going to have to learn how to manage your time better, and you’re going to have to put in the extra hours necessary to get yourself out of this mess.

Waking up at 5 am is no victory if you wake up for waking ups sake.  You can wake up, moderate for 1 hour, handle Chris” projects for the next 3.  That will be 9 am, moderate for an hour til 10.am.. contact ALL lenders for the next 3 hours. (you wont be able to get them first try) moderate for 1 hour, return phone calls from lenders, work on Chris’ projects for 3 hours.. repeat…

I have told you many times, this will not be easy, in fact it will be painful.  I know you don’t “want” a full time job, but right now – to get your self out of this mess.. it is the ONLY way.  If you BK on them… mark my words they will come after you with everything they have…

OK.. off my high horse.  If I have the report, that tells me you are serious in making amend and turning your life around.  I will employ you (in contract for ONLY for now) at a first months rate of 4,500 per month.  I will explain what I will need you to do for that later. (the 4500 coupled with the 1500 will give you 6K… still not enough to handle your debt service but getting closer) … We can work on getting that number higher AFTER you start helping your self.

Let me know your thoughts..

Duane LeGate

From: Casey Serin [mailto:casey@serin.us]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:15 PM
To: 'Duane LeGate'
Subject: Can I put our deal on the blog?

Duane, can I put our deal on the blog? The "haters" will definitely keep me accountable and this will add to the story of me making a turn-around.



--
Casey Serin

88 comments:

Throatwarbler Mangrove said...

murst?

CHJTS said...

first

Benoit™ said...

T H I R D ;-)

taddyangle said...

I am wasiting too much time reading this stuff.

That casipedia is fuuny stuff

Mr. Bubbles said...

I'm sorry.. I don't know who's dumber. Duane for offering or Snowflake for turning down $6000 a month in pay.

I call BS. This has to be the best troll...ever. IAFF dying on the vine while EN's traffic rising. Duane literaly throwing money at Snowflake, and Snowflake doing everything possible to fuck it up? It doesn't fit Snowflake's pattern of taking the money, then fucking you over. I'm supposed to believe Duane is the only person Snowflake has ever met that he hasn't screwed over?

If I'm wrong, I will not hesitate to say a mea culpa, but methinks EN just jumped the shark.

CHJTS said...

mr. bubbles

You have got to be kidding me.


I am the authority figure on everything related to casey serin jumping the shark.

please do not speak out of turn again.

When your opinion is warranted, I will give it to you.

Warm Regards,

Casey (and all things casey related)HAS JUMPED THE SHARK

king friday the 13th said...

erin and galina,

what our little baptist babushka lacks in rackage (rather flat for the king's tastes), erin brings to the table. Erin may be a "butter-face", but nothing a handy paper bag can't remedy...

Throatwarbler Mangrove said...

Hey Duane,

I have a Ph.D. and a very successful career in science. Unlike our acquaintance in SLC, I actually AM award-winning in my field.

All of that said, if you're looking for places to spend your money, let's talk about what I can do for you nights/weekends to the tune of a couple k a month.

;-)

Rob Dawg said...

Dear King,
Your preference for comfortable sedans is fine. Please don't use that to snub sports cars or fine classics. There are those of us who worship the very treads of any fine vehicle and take umbrage at your dissing models other than your personal favorites.

CHJTS said...

At 9:01 PM, Rob Dawg said...
Dear King,
Your preference for comfortable sedans is fine. Please don't use that to snub sports cars or fine classics. There are those of us who worship the very treads of any fine vehicle and take umbrage at your dissing models other than your personal favorites




HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA I about fell out of my chair laughing at that one.

King is the king of plumper humper chubby chasers.

Casey e-mail? said...

RECENTLY, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A. A. A. D. D. - Age Activated Attention Deficit Disorder. This is how it manifests:

I decided to water my garden. As I turned on the hose in the driveway, I looked over at my car and decided my car needed washing.

As I started toward the garage, I noticed that there was mail on the porch table that I brought up from the mail box earlier.

I decided to go through the mail before I washed the car.

I laid my car keys down on the table, put the junk mail in the garbage bin under the table, and noticed that the bin is full.

So I decided to put the bills back on the table and take out the garbage first.

But then I thought, since I'm going to be near the mailbox when I take out the garbage anyway, I may as well pay the bills first.

I took my check book off the table, and saw that there was only 1 check left.

My extra checks were in my desk in the study, so I went inside the house to my desk where I found a can of coke that I had been drinking.

I went to look for my checks, but first I needed to push the coke aside so that I didn't accidentally knock it over.

I saw that the coke was getting warm, and I decided I should put it in the refrigerator to keep it cold.

As I headed toward the kitchen with the coke, a vase of flowers on the counter caught my eye -- they needed to be watered. I set the coke down on the counter, and I discovered my reading glasses that I'd been searching for all morning.

Then I decided I'd better put them back on my desk, but first I'd water the flowers. I set the glasses back down on the counter, filled a container with water and suddenly I spotted the TV remote. Someone left
it on the kitchen table. I realized that tonight when we go to watch TV, I would be looking for the remote, but I wouldn't remember that it's on the table, So I decided to put it back in the den where it belongs, but first I'd water the flowers.

I poured some water in the flowers, but quite a bit of it spilled on the floor. So, I set the remote back on the table, got some towels and wiped up the spill, then, I headed down the hall trying to remember what I was planning to do.


At the end of the day:
----the car isn't washed,
----the bills aren't paid,
----there is a warm can of coke sitting on the counter,
----the flowers don't have enough water,
----there is still only 1 check in my checkbook,
----I can't find the remote,
----I can't find my glasses,
----and I don't remember what in the world I did with the car keys!

Then, when I tried to figure out why nothing got done today, I was really baffled, because I know I was busy all day long, and I'm really tired.

I realize this is a serious problem, and I'll try to get some help for it, but first I'll check my e-mail.

Do me a favor, will you? Forward this message to everyone you know, because I don't remember to whom it has been sent.

Stephanie J. said...

Dawg;
Pass on the message from Steve Serin to Duane please. :^D

steve@serin.us

::LOL::

Lost Cause said...

but methinks EN just jumped the shark.

Hi Rob,

What are your plans to monetize us, your traffic?

Benoit™ said...

Of course, the ultimate PrLinkBiz snark was just written by me, not 30 minutes ago:

Unfortunately for Morgan, though she claims to "do people", few people have expressed an interest in doing her.

Thanks, I'll be here all week :-)

Anonymous said...

Well...

The Dawg did get in bed with a known traffic monetizer, did he not???

mejustme said...

Did I miss something? Exactly what was Duane proposing Casey *do* to earn $4,500 a month?

When I read that, I got really mad. There are so many more deserving people who would appreciate a *fraction* of that money.

I guess I'll just take solace in the fact that Casey couldn't get his act together and crapped all over the gravy train.

Rob Dawg said...

What are your plans to monetize us, your traffic?

I thought since you are all so stupid and gulible and trusting and since there is no stickiness or sense of community I could pretty much screw you all over any damn way I pleased. All that that talk about confidential or circumspect or respect for the wishes of the mob? Forget it. All that matters is the blog. In case it wasn't obvious I have absolutely no other interests or life except being a remora on the soft underbelly of the SS Serin. Unless I cash in on the accidental traffic that I ignorantly stumbled upon I am destined for an existence of mediocrity.

Get real. This crowd is smart and real world sophisticated. They can spot any potential exploitation a week before even the scammer thinks of it. People come here because they like to come here. Part of that is an expectation that they won't be used as personal snot rags at every sniffle. This is a diverting hobby. If I turned it into a business the people I enjoy hosting would melt faster than a pleather jacket in a sun drenched aglae pond. Chill.

Benoit™ said...

Rob Dawg wrote: would melt faster than a pleather jacket in a sun drenched aglae pond

What the heck is 'aglae' [sic]...? Cheap caseypedia plugs abound :)

Legion said...

Like I've said before, with CASEY it's all or nothing. Either pay off his entire debt at once or NO DEAL!
My God, this pinhead had Duane at his beck and call, using Duane's name to throw some weight around, and he still fucks it up. 6 grand a month..for what? He wasn't doing shit, and all he kept thinking was "Hey duane can I post this on my blog so I can make the haters eat their words? Not, thanks Duane, I owe you one Duane..."
Oh well, at least I am now satisfied that whatever may happen in the next few months, Casey making a thousand dollars a week or even a million, the kid is just too damn stupid to handle money properly. He will blow it sooner or later and he will still be screwed. duane was right, he isn't wired right.

king friday the 13th said...

bob dawg,

Please, I mean no disrespect. I'd nail the babushka baptist too.

Just something about Erin tells me she's probably adventurous in the sack. A rumble-f*ck if you will.

I bet erin could put a hoover to shame....

Stupidtoo said...

It really pisses me off that so many people were willing to bend over backwards for him and he does nothing. There are tons of people everywhere who would kill for that kind of assitance and he somehow thinks he is special. 72K a year and he cannot even follow through. I make a decent living but have to work my butt off for it.

(Ignore any nasty comments from me, I am mostly pissed becuase I quit smoking)

Ogg the Caveman said...

FMH, I hate to use Caseyspeak in earnest, but that would've seriously been a sweet deal. $4500/month for Snowflake's mad IT skillz? I can't believe the opportunities people keep offering him.

Trouble is, they keep throwing strikes and he keeps standing there, not swinging.

Duane: Let me know if you need a new IT consultant. Most of my experience is on the S/360, but I'm pretty good with CP/M too.

Stupidtoo said...

Ogg, I would like to call first dibs for being Duane's new IT consultant. Sadly, my RE track record is lacking, but I least I pay the mortgages.

Duane, call me :)

Dolph said...

Anybody see the new SUPPORTERZ donations he's pushing for? You can love or hate him but PLEASE help him.

Argh. I am possibly done with this drama. I guess you can lie, cheat and steal AND THEN play your audience as gullible idiots and find gold anyway.

Shit, what the fuck happened to accountability and kharma?

Oh well. Bye guys, I most likely will be working my projects, helping my filmmaker buddy make a documentary on mortgage brokers and stop spending time on this crap. It's one reason why I stopped blogging to begin with. He is like George Bush or Bill Clinton. No matter how many times you catch him in a falsehood or you think he's gonna get his, he somehow pulls something out of nothing. Even worse is all these new plants that have all of a sudden popped up on his blog rooting him on. Funny how it happened once he "found" some moderating help.

Is he playing us? Is he better off than he admits? Who keeps hiring him for his web skills? He HAS no skills apparently!

Love you, guys...You are the best.

BTW, I think he's jumped the shark for sure now.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

I think some of you have forgotten what Duane told us as background to all this when it comes to offering Casey $4500 a month for contract work. To me it seems Duane was being generous but at the same time trying to get Casey to actually get off his butt and do some work. How bad Casey's state of mind is proved by the fact that he turned this down. Here's a guy with $170,000 of debt, no job and he turns down $6000 a month. You are going to have to have one hell of an argument to convince me that is the action of a normal, sane person.

I note Casey was talking about needing a dedicated server on 1/25, so that's only taken about 4 months to sort out.

Anyone going to bother with the phone-in? Should we produce a list of questions for someone to ask or do we not bother as it will all be a series of ads for his sponsors?

Legion said...

@Dolph,
Hate to see you go buddy, but I understand your frustration. I think it probably hit home most when you read what Duane was willing to pay this shithead. I think of all those people out there that could have really used that help and actually would have worked for it. But this con artist attracts attention to himself and admits to fraud and lies numerous times, and is getting rewarded for it. Yep, it's the old "poor me, I'm entitled, help me dammit' attitude of the New America. no one takes responsibilty for themselves anymore, and they feel it is up to someone else to bail their asses out.

Legion said...

@Arthur
I wouldn't bother, it's gonna be hooray Casey all the time, with plants and I'm sure plants that are going to be calling in touting the sponsors crap and how they found it all on IAFF.

BelowTheCrowd said...

Casey Serin News!

The Caseypedia is now the top link on Google for "Modesto Pool."

BelowTheCrowd said...

Further news:

Caseypedia is also top of the heap when searching for "personality web 2.0 marketing."

Little things mean so much when you're bored.

-btc

Dolph said...

Thanks Legion. Who knows, maybe I am just so fracking pissed off about all this. Casey is NOT a marketing genius. I DO marketing and sales for a living. It's not THAT easy which makes me believe he's going to get that rush of help at first and then ***poof*** it will start to become harder.

Maybe I am tired, pissed and mad that the FTB is asking me to submit a tax return for 2003 when my company didn't get the stamp of approval from the SoS until 12/23 of that year. Idiots can't even read their own fracking rules...if your company was approved within 15 days of the end of the year OR did no business you are exempt from filing.

They can bug me and I file my taxes and pay yet Casey can shrug it off and apparently get away with it.

Dolph said...

I should add that I formed my company during that period.

Dolph said...

I bet he's paying some of these "plants" to post all this rah rah crap.

Dolph said...

Ok...done for the night. Maybe I will be back...I'm just annoyed and disappointed.

Mouse And Pencil said...

Dawg, never mind the Haterz™ Haterz™. It's your world, we just blog in it.

Ummm...maybe I'm wrong here, or some of you jumping the gun? Did Casey turn this offer down, or did Duane take it back when Casey failed to get his shit together exactly as Duane asked him to?

There's a world of difference there.

Casey would have given Duane the runaround for months, lots of "I'll get to that later" and "I meant to do that" and "I guess I could think about doing that". Do you really think Casey could give 6K worth of work, even with the generous terms I'm sure Duane was offering? I'm glad Duane cut him loose and that money was free to do some real good.

I say wait for the next installment to see who did what. Casey was offered the money/job, but if you remember, he never GOT it, because he was his usual lazy self.

What kills me is the kid's arrogance and sense of entitlement, like when Annie decided to get a windshield and not donate to the Dancing Chicken Show, and he posted that she better pay up - it's one thing to piss away time and money and opportunities, but he indulges in biting the hand that feeds him entirely too much.

He reminds me of the Chris Rock routine:

"I take care of my kids!" You're SUPPOSED to! What, you want a medal? Why do people always want to be rewarded for what they're supposed to do! You're SUPPOSED to take care of your kids. You're SUPPOSED to stay off drugs. You're SUPPOSED to pay your bills!

(I paraphrase, too tired to look it up)

I'm waiting patiently for the next installment, because I'm really curious as to what point Duane realized the kid was just not right in the head.

bruiser said...

In Casey's distorted reality, he probably thinks turning down Duane's offer of employment as showing true entreprenurial spirit. He likely thought to himself "This guy wants to make me an employee for $54000/year. I'm noboy's employee, I'm an entrepreneur! I can make more than DOUBLE that if I strike out on my own as a Blogging Consultant. I think I'll keep this Duane guy around to birddog web consulting sweet deals for me. Its win-win."

Legion said...

The IRS is gonna get him for tax fraud sooner or later, that's a guarantee. Ask Willie Nelson, or even Mike Tyson.

I wonder whatever happened to Nigeypoo, too scared to take down RCS or DHC as it will obviously be him raising the white flag, yet too stupid NOT to take it down. We got it cached anyways Nigeypoo dontcha know?
This is the press release I am going to pay for
"Award Winning blogger and friend to the Jamaica Bob Sledding team arrested for endangering a child, as well as just being a total and enormous asshole...the scene was interrupted as some of the Koi that was found on the premesis and was being led away in cuffs tried to make a break for it by diving into the indoor pool"

PMSPMS™©® said...

www.caseypedia.com just hit 300 articles!

ratlab said...

Some NLL (Joy & Erin) photos you may or may not have seen.

http://flickr.com/photos/94588127@N00/

Dumbfounded said...

Duane??? Hello? Anybody home?

What on earth were you offering to pay snowflake for? Naps?

Please tell us what you were thinking!

ratlab said...

I don't remember seeing this photo from SLC...

http://flickr.com/photos/25137149@N00/411729687/

PMSPMS™©® said...

Ratlab - it was Galina calling to ask why Snowflake took the condoms to Utah....

ratlab said...

...because she needed them for the "Girls Night Out" back in Sacto...

Benoit™ said...

First, I wanted to... ahem... "plug" the newGaysey article, which lives up to my award-winning insult writer status.

Second, Gaysey's talkcast this Friday will undoubtedly have fewer listeners and/or callers than usual because of the holiday weekend. I, for one, won't be able to call in since I'll be visiting relatives. bleh.

PMSPMS™©® said...

Ratlab - to which KC's response was: "Why does a ladies bible study need condoms?". Galina explained they were making balloons of course...

PMSPMS™©® said...

When KC refused to believe that one she admitted she lied - and that the bible study was collecting used condoms to send to missionaries - just like the used to do with Tea Bags... and oh - would Casey mind if she used them up first before they were sent off?

schizoid said...

Does Hostgator know that "DMCA" stands for "Digital Millennium *Copyright* Act," not "Digital Millennium NDA Act" or "Digital Millennium Slander and Defamation Act"? The NLL complaint doesn't allege a copyright violation. Does Hostgator even read these complaints? If I send them a DMCA notice that says "Oogledy boogeldy piggledy poo" will they take down the site I'm complaining about?

schizoid said...

And yes, I will swear under penalty of perjury that I am the owner of the exclusive rights referenced by the statement "Oogledy boogeldy piggledy poo."

sid_finster said...

Interesting.

Did anyone else just get a spam-email from some called "S. Casey" titled "Want to start on my dime" or something similar?

On the other hand, I think I used my crap-trap and not my regular email for anything KC-related.

Nigels Mom said...

Lord have mercy! I cannot believe even Casey would screw up a reliable 6k/month.

Duane, you are much too generous.

Will Blog For Food said...

Caseypedia ALSO is the #1 Google hit for the entire universe of:

"semi-satirical wiki"s

If anyone is looking for a fine, after-dinner semi-satirical wiki, I'm tellin' you, they can do no better than Caseypedia. Just click my paid text link to see!

(RobDawg -- send the check, please. My Russian bride needs a new clipboard, Thanks!)

Arthur Wankspittle said...

Just checked sitemeter, IAFF is down to 7k visits as of yesterday. Casey need the Talk-a-thon to boost traffic.

Interesting that a site that is supposed to be a foreclosure resource currently has one advert for foreclosure help and hasn't mentioned foreclosure for days.

Traffic wise the Google rankings are now:

foreclosure was #6 now #5
world's dumbest real estate flipper was #10 now #2
liar loan was #1 still #1
cashcall was #5 now #8
brainwashed real estate idiot was #7 now #1
how to get foreclosed was #6 now #8
foreclosure idiot was #1 still #1
foreclosure failure was #5 now #4
sacramento mortgage fraud was #5 and #6 now #2
clueless real estate flipper was #1 still #1

Way to go Casey, win-win with all that sweet traffic. Oh hang on it's just dropping back to the usual levels isn't it?

NoDebtWhatSoEver™ said...

CHJTS, fear not, your CaseyPedia login is on its way.

How can you not know who I am...have you been living under a rock covered with a blue ball for the last 4 months?


yeah, well if you send me a mail which - if I may paraphrase a little - says "gimme a Caseypedia login", I gotta ask. I've had one or two strange mails. And unfortunately time constraints caused by this work lark prevent me from following EN 24/7 and gaining an encylopedic knowledge of every EN poster's name, especially the shorter acronym type ones.

NoDebtWhatSoEver™ said...

Arthur, I've been seeing IAFF at #9 for foreclosure for a couple of days.

#1 for "how can i foreclose on my murse".

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

WHO turns down and offer of $6000.00 a month plus an offer of funding to get out of a probable LAW SUITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Casey is an un grateful lazy stoopid a$$ looser, IMO and Duane must know how to make a LOT of money on line.

In my world Duane is called an angel investor, and they are really hard to find. Especially one who lets you actually make money and keep some % of your start up company, while PAYING YOU. Duane is the real deal.

Joy O Day is the more likely type. I can spot them from the get go.

It is a very credible dramatic story and I am a very good person to give an opine about working with free lancers and business start ups.

It is what I have done for 12 years. (NOT in real estate or IT).


O, btw, The is a "Rich Dad" seminar here in Orlando the weekend, and it is FREE!
te he.

Duane LeGate said...

Brief Timeout

I was supposed to have been on a flight this am. I missed it. My wife was snooring so loud last night it registered on the richter scale. So around 12:30, I moved downstairs to the couch, but not before setting the alarm for 5am. The alarm goes off, my wife sees I am not there, assumes I am already up, and turns the alarm off. I woke up at 6:30, I have a flight at 8. Cant make it to Atl airport from where I am. All morning and early afternoon flights are booked. Now I gotta call my client with my tail between my legs. What a crappy morning.

Two things. One I will explain what I was trying to accomplish and why after Dawgs next post. From a "generosity" standpoint, I didnt look at it that way, again I will explain why. Up to this time, Casey is saying and doing the things (mostly) to turn his life around.

Two, For the people accusing Rob of trolling - to hell with you. You wanna get mad at someone.. put the bullseye on my back. I have had enough of Mr. Serins "aweshucks poor me" attitude and finally wanted to expose him. I spoke with Rob about it and he said I could use his forum for that purpose. Now, halfway in the middle of this, people start complaining. So Rob is stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard place. If he continues.. he is trolling, if he doesnt, some people that might want to know the story will get on him.

As I see it, this is an open forum. Attendance is not necessary. If you dont like his blog, start your own.

schizoid said...

#1 for "uzbecki man bag juice"

Arthur Wankspittle said...

Foreclosure resource #42 organic!

Arthur, I've been seeing IAFF at #9 for foreclosure for a couple of days.
Getting #5 from here. ?

...and "nigel twat" gets this site a #2

R-Boy said...

About the talkcast: I won't be listening, I will be away from the city with the future missus. You know, Friday nights from 8-11PM EST and / or 5-8PST ain't the best time for one of these talks. Most folks go out on Friday nights.

About contacting Steve Serin: Done, awaiting response

About re-contacting LE : Too busy this week with work stuff.

About IAFF: Comments are sure drying up. I notice alot of folks have stopped commenting

Anonymous said...

To all.

Two issues are dominating this thread. Duane's decision to pay Snowflake $1,500 per month for exclusive advertising rights, and Duane's decision to hire Snowflake as a consultant for $4,500 a month.

Here's my take.

Recent events show that Snowflake can monetize his blog, and that $1,500 a month would be a bargain.

That is offset by the fact that associating yourself with Snowflake has serious negative connotations.

In the end, the price is low, and the Google-juice has value. In my opinion, the negative connotations would offset the positive effect from Google juice. But it is Duane's business, and it is his decision.

The next issue is the $4,500 a month consulting fees.

Though some people might disagree, the rate is pretty low. If Duane offered me that kind of rate, unless there were other things with monetary value to offset the rate, I'd turn him down in a heartbeat. Not only are short term contracts higher paying than long term contracts, but that rate would be a 70% cut from the long term contract that has kept me busy the past 2 years. (Rob Dawg can check my IP. I'm posting from a well known player in the A&D market)

On the other hand, I have actual skills. Snowflake can't even handle simple things like changing DNS.

So although the rate is very low for someone with skills in this field, it is way to high for Snowflake.

I am sure that Duane was trying to help him get his act together.

I am equally sure that Duane would have realized he was overpaying. With a combination of a lack of work ethic and lack of skills, the opportunity he generously offered Snowflake wouldn't have lasted long.

In the end, this boils down to Duane having the right to do anything he wants with his business. Though I think one decision was questionable, and the other was an obvious mistake, Duane can do whatever he wants with his business.

LossMitPro said...

Duane LeGate @ 4:59 AM (5/24):
”So Rob is stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard place. If he continues.. he is trolling, if he doesnt, some people that might want to know the story will get on him..”


I can’t see how anyone would think Rob is trolling, unless they’re just among those folks whom tend to believe too much in conspiracy theories. And there seem to be enough of those floating around the Blogosphere. (Hey to each his/her own, I suppose.)

As a side note... I had a phone conversation with Serin last night, and Casey has asked me to speak about his mortgage issues during the next Foreclosure Friday (5-25-07) podcast. I agreed.

Nonetheless in the interest of disclosure, Duane, my perspectives don’t place Casey in the same light you apparently do. Not to suggest your opinions aren’t valid, just that I don’t agree with many of them when it comes to Serin. Casey is far more scatter-brained than he is purposefully manipulative, and he certainly lacks focus more times than a desire to address his issues. (The “spirit” is willing, but the flesh sometimes weak thing goin on there methinks.) Still he tries, falls, gets up and tries again.

Anyway appreciate you sharing thoughts about Casey, Duane, even though I’ve yet to see the point in exposing subjective views against one (Serin) who over-exposes himself. But maybe your motives will make more sense when the entire story is told, and I’ll understand your point of view better? Yet as far as the “trolling” thing, nope, ain’t buyin it. And I sense more folks are in this camp than the troll theorists.

...Just one man’s opinions.

~Mark

Rob Dawg said...

Benoit™ sats;
"paragon of homosexuality"

As noted many times neither side and even full field players don't want him on their team.

Mouse And Pencil said...

"Casey is far more scatter-brained than he is purposefully manipulative"

Loss, (can I call you Loss?), this is where I firmly disagree with you, although you're somewhat new to the Casey World™.

You have to understand, Casey has now been proven to be manipulating *everyone* for a long time, and more, much more than being "scatter brained".

Just listening to his last farce of a talkcast, the boy is a master manipulator - maybe noit a particularly bright nor smart one, but he knows all the tricks.

Casey wasted a lot of Duane's time, and I think he has every right to be angry at Casey, and he's also showing us that Casey is NOT the "Stop me before I sign on more debt!" innocent that he plays online.

You got out early, so you're lucky. I say, wait and see what Duane has to say. A lot of us were willing to write off a lot of Casey's failure to severe ADD or "scatterbrainedness", but we're seeing from a long time of observation and interaction, a lot of that has been an act. He's (in my mind and others I'm sure) a proven liar, scammer, and manipulator, I doubt his blatant trolling, dissembling and evasions (and outright damned lies) are by accident or due to his lack of attention, they were intentional.

If you think it's his true nature...fair enough, but a lot of us are gonna agree to disagree.

Anonymous said...

5:47

Casey is not an IT professional. He is a script kiddie, and a poor one at that. His resume is only for a retard web site.

Sorry but having been in the IT business for over 30 years, I can pick up a dozen IT guys with platform experience for that kind of coin to start out. And it is not like Sac is some IT black hole at sucking up local talent. There is lots of it looking there.

I subscribe to the "Duane's heart is biggest than his brain" clan on this. I think he was trying to help KC out.

Reminds me of the joke about the lady constantly praying to God about winning the lottery so that all the bad in her life would stop happening. After the 3rd request, a voice from the sky goes "Marge, meet me half way, buy a lottery ticket willya?"

Anonymous said...

@ Anon at 6:37

I agree. Casey may be able to fool people with no IT skills, but anyone who has done anything real in this field won't be fooled.

For example, in his last fraudcast, he tried to impress people by mentioning that during his 1 1/2 years at Pride Industries, he developed PHP Classes to put results of MySQL queries in tables.

My reaction is "Great, what did you do after lunch of your first day?"

Though $4,500 a month for a short term gig is an insult to a professional, it is far more than Casey is worth.

Mermaiden said...

Casey has asked me to speak about his mortgage issues during the next Foreclosure Friday (5-25-07) podcast.

Casey doesn't have mortgage issues. Casey might have rent issues - but he has no mortgage.

LossMitPro said...

Mouse And Pencil @ 6:35 AM (5/24):
”...seeing from a long time of observation and interaction, a lot of that has been an act.”


By the way, you’re welcome to call me “loss” but the name is Mark so either is fine (whichever you prefer, I don’t mind).

Believe me I hear what you’re driving at and don’t ignore for a minute that you folks (“The Haterz”) have much experience with Casey. The issue, however, is that exposure the majority of folks have with Casey is impersonal, web-based and therefore somewhat distorted. And I’m not defending his conduct by any means, simply pointing out facts.

By Casey asking me to speak on the podcast (5-25-07) should demonstrate to people that he IS genuinely trying, because he knows full-well I’m going to call it plain when it comes to his mortgage issues. And as I’ve said before I am not among the Haterz, so to speak, nor will I pull any warranted punches.

What’s more I am not here on EN to change any minds or deny anyone their opinions. But I will offer counter views so that folks have a balance, and can make more informed decisions as to what they believe or don’t. After all FEW people have had actual in-depth contact with Casey, and none with ample training or credentials have examined the issues other than myself. Thus, my perspectives are a little different.

Anyway it’s not that I disagree for it’s own sake, so much as I am viewing this saga through a different set of lenses. And agreeing to disagree for the time being is not such a poor choice or a source of conflict (for me, that is). As long as discussions are kept civil, I’ll extend to opposing views the same respect (or lack thereof) extended to me.

Perhaps you’ll agree the latter makes for more enlightening conversations?

Mermaiden @ 6:50 AM (5/24):
”Casey doesn't have mortgage issues. Casey might have rent issues - but he has no mortgage.”


With respect, that position is not accurate.

~Mark

lurker said...

Caset asking you to join the podcast is his way of trying to increase the number of listeners. Not him trying to repay loans.

Duane LeGate said...

"Duane, my perspectives don’t place Casey in the same light you apparently do. Not to suggest your opinions aren’t valid, just that I don’t agree with many of them when it comes to Serin. Casey is far more scatter-brained than he is purposefully manipulative,"

Just to help me understand, I have alot of perspectives on Casey, personal, business, financial, moral, which perspective are you taking about?

Purposfully manipulative he is. HE IS. I am telling you, and the rest of the world. HE HAS BIPOLAR. Now bipolar may be the cause, but he is indeed manipulative.

" Duane, even though I’ve yet to see the point in exposing subjective views against one (Serin) who over-exposes himself. But maybe your motives will make more sense when the entire story is told, and I’ll understand your point of view better?"

I have many motives. One -tough love, Two - stop the enabling from parents, friends, noobs, and anyone else.. Casey will only stop himself shen he has no one to lean on. Three - Stop Caseys lying (more to that point later, Four - Expose the kids lack of empathy, caring, or freaking ANY semblence of personal resposiblity. Again, I think alot of these things are cause by BiPolar. However, until he gets treated, or someone steps in on his behalf he will not change.

I live in Metro Atlanta. We have had 2 of the top counties in the nation for mortgage fraud for years. (Dekalb and Fulton). I have seen people get hung out to dry for a FRACTION of what Casey has pulled.

Casey has an attitude of something like: "Whats mine is mine and whats your is mine".

LossMit,

I would be VERY interested to hear your take on Caseys mortgage fraud issues. I guess you think he is in the clear?

Hobbes said...

@ LossMittPro

Can it be that Casey is equal parts scatter brained and manipulative?

Here's a guy sending out e-mails promi sing 24% guaranteed returns mere weeks before setting up his "I Am Facing Foreclosure". A guy who structured his loans so that the lenders would not realize what was going on and was only stopped when one lender googled him and found his old EarthMission blog? A guy who admitted to C|Net that he was deliberately pushing buttons to get haterz to post? A guy who signs a contract (well what ever that piece of shit that PRBLinkBiz had him sign) and immediately tries to weasel out of it?
What about the Scotsman article and the bogus company set up to facilitate the cash back?

And you want mutual respect--- how about your statement elsewhere that people hate Casey because they don't have his guts? How is that respectful who hate Casey for the same reason we hate Bernie Ebbers, Scott Sullivan, Dennis Kozlowski and guys who stick up Pack A Sacks-- that they're crooks and should be jail.

Hobbes said...

And you want mutual respect--- how about your statement elsewhere that people hate Casey because they don't have his guts? How is that respectful to those of us who hate Casey for the same reason we hate Bernie Ebbers, Scott Sullivan, Dennis Kozlowski and guys who stick up Pack A Sacks-- that they're crooks and should be jail.

Left out a phrase. Sorry.

LossMitPro said...

Duane LeGate @ 7:29 AM:
”I would be VERY interested to hear your take on Caseys mortgage fraud issues. I guess you think he is in the clear?”


Actually, Duane, I have never taken the position that Casey is “clear” of the mortgage fraud issues. He isn’t until those matters have been addressed, dealt with, and resolved to the lenders’ satisfaction.

~Mark

R-Boy said...

Mark,

Casey's not clear of them so long as I keep talking to fellow law enforcement folks and pointing them out to him.

I'll say this much: I know for a fact that his TalkShoe programs are being downloaded by members of law enforcement. I've guided folks personally through his website to his admission on mortgage fraud and on his talkcasts.

They were ESPECIALLY interested in the one with Jerome Mayne. In addition, I know a certain AUSA up in the Southern District of NY who downloads his website and fraudcasts and sends a CD weekly to certain folks in Cali.

I have yet to call back these folks this week, but Ive got my notes in order, so its very likely that I'll be talking with em again next week.

Duane LeGate said...

LossMit,

Thanks for the response. I thought I had read somewhere, or maybe I thought youi had implied that there wouldnt be an ramifications.

Agree with your statements totally.

Mouse And Pencil said...

"As long as discussions are kept civil, I’ll extend to opposing views the same respect (or lack thereof) extended to me.

Perhaps you’ll agree the latter makes for more enlightening conversations?"

Absolutely - which is why I did'nt attack or call you names, and just voiced my doubts and my perspective, which I think most of us share.

I think there's a learning curve/patience barrier with Casey that we're further along on, I'd rather you travel it "organically" (heh) than to just agree with us - the journey is what could be the more interesting aspect.

Duane responded, which is what I was hoping for in the back of my mind, as he's probably had the most exposure to Casey than anyone personally. I'm not calling for a steel cage match, but you two have differing opinions of Casey after personal interactions, which is interesting in and of itself.

Let me ask you something, just in theory, as a talking point: Do you feel, in your personal interactions with Casey, that he may have shined you on? In other words, he was on his best behavior in order to lull you and impress you and to give you a false sense of security?

Detractors of Steven Jobs (Apple CEO) accuse him of having a "Reality Distortion Field", in that he can charm your pants off all the while acting like a complete ass. Is there no sense of this kind of thing at work with Casey? I've run into it with many "rock star" types, it's fascinating and very easy to buy into. (Casey's quest for fame is VERY reminiscent of the rock star type/mentality...which is a blog in itself...)

It's not easy to admit, but I've been conned - the best way to gain a "con radar" is to learn what to look for. Casey is good, there is no doubt in my mind, he's learned to use his "tousled hair blue eyed" faux-innocence to lure and trap many people, just on his blog, and I'm sure he's used it his whole life to get out of trouble and get his way. I went back and forth for a while trying to figure out if he was indeed who he pretended to be, or if it was all a con - I created a screen name early on called "NotBuyingIt" because my "Spidey Sense" for con artists was screaming very quickly after being exposed to the Casey Reality Distortion Field.

Can you say with certainty that the "scatter-brained" behavior is not a pose to throw you off, ie. the "Casey Reality Distortion Field", or simply learned behavior on his part he's not even aware of, and that you're trusting to be his true nature? I understand and recognize that you claim professional training in this, but is it infallible?

There's no right or wrong answer here, I'm just curious about your thoughts.

JoanTheArch said...

Will someone arrest the kid already? How many layers of fraud do you get to commit in this country -- openly, no less -- before you finally draw Do not pass go, do not collect $200?

LossMitPro said...

Mouse And Pencil @ 8:17 AM:
”Let me ask you something, just in theory, as a talking point: Do you feel, in your personal interactions with Casey, that he may have shined you on?”


Responding quickly, then I should get back to work...

My opinion is that Casey is very confused on many subjects. He extrapolates a bit of information from a topic, internalizes it, and makes inaccurate decisions based on inaccurate information. The term, “Half-Baked” action comes to mind. He may mean well by executing on those ideas, but he fails due to not counting the costs many times. But I believe he may be learning, slowly.

Yes, Casey has “shined” me on occasionally. Although I realize why and don’t take it personally, he has had lots on his plate recently. Mostly what I see is a person in scramble-mode, and that is typical of people strapped with huge debt and facing uncertainty. Yes there is some purposeful manipulation, although I have not seen evidence that is done with malice... More out of desperation, fear of ramifications and youthful naivety. But the day is still young, I could discover other traits that change my opinion.

Perhaps we can discuss this more later? Right now my attentions are required elsewhere, so please don’t think I’m avoiding the subject.

Take Care,
~Mark

Anonymous said...

At 5:45 AM, R-Boy said...
About the talkcast: I won't be listening, I will be away from the city with the future missus. You know, Friday nights from 8-11PM EST and / or 5-8PST ain't the best time for one of these talks. Most folks go out on Friday nights.

About contacting Steve Serin: Done, awaiting response

About re-contacting LE : Too busy this week with work stuff.

About IAFF: Comments are sure drying up. I notice alot of folks have stopped commenting

You forget, Stephen , that the people here at EN (such as yourself) are not the kind who would have any outdoor normal type social activities lined up on a Friday evening. More likely without IAFF talkcast there would be engaging in their latest porn session wank-a-thon

fmw said...

The issue, however, is that exposure the majority of folks have with Casey is impersonal, web-based and therefore somewhat distorted.
-----------------
??????????
Everything we know we got from him, PERSONALLY.

R-Boy said...

Hi Nigel, or RCS, or anonymous web-troll.

Yes, I'm certainly the kind of person who has no social life on Friday night and wanks off to midget porn after geeking out on World of Warcraft.

I'm certain that we're a bunch of loosers living in our mother's basements devoid of social skill.

Sigh. This wasn't even a very good troll.

Anonymous said...

A question for Duane (if he is taking questions). I can understand why someone might want to advertise on Casey's site. However, I don't understand your reasoning in wanting to hire him. He doesn't seem to really have much in the way of skills - either technically or in real estate. Were you just doing it because you felt sorry for him?

Anonymous said...

Hey Nigel,

Funny you think we have no lives. I remember many Friday nights where you were lurking on this site. I also remember many Friday nights where you posted some of your useless DHC drivel.

Fuck off drama queen. I guess we all can't be award winning, VIP mortgage brokers.

Idiot.

Anonymous said...

It bothers me to see all the fake supporters(z) on that creep's site. Fuck Casey and his fake posters.

Duane LeGate said...

@Anon 9:56

As soon as Rob posts the last of what he has, I will answer your question. It is a good question and from where you sit, it makes sense. Not trying to dodge or evade, just trying to keep within the timeline of the posts. I will answer hopefully to your satisfaction.

Anonymous said...

R-boy...look at the writing style. No doubt our award winning blogger and multi-alias idiot (RCS) Nigel Swaby is lashing out.

Further proof he is devoid of any morals and hates anybody who would dare disagree with him. He pretends to be nice when he has to, but in reality that post proves he is nothing more than a bitter old asshole.

Nigel Swaby = Bitter old asshole who cannot be trusted (because he outs people).

R-Boy said...

What's kinda funny is that I left a pretty good thought out comment on condos that was critical of them, as Nigel left out a few things that make them less desirable.

He didn't approve that post. He did approve Mark's though.

I am jealous.

So jealous I am going to cry over milk.

Khatie said...

Poor MultiTroll(TM)Swaby. So dense that he doesn't realize when he trips up and outs himself with his "anonymous" comments.

bruiser said...

All Friday Night EN Trollers are not beating their meat to online porn in their parents basement. In defense of this FNENT, I work the night shift in Network Ops for a Fortune 500 company. I may be a geek, but I'm a productive one. Besides, my Friday just gets pushed back one day.

anti haterz said...

wow, so any1 here who thinks you haterz are loosers must be nigel or related to him? check my IP if you must...its not even in the same continent. and Stephen its not hard to know your real name since your outing on DHC