Monday, May 21, 2007

The Case for Complicity

LossMitPro has suggested that Mrs. S not be included in this mess. The reasoning is sound that absent any evidence she could very well be a victim. Evidence:

The 11 credit cards in her name are maxed out.
Her name is on many of the loans.
Her name is or was on many of the deeds.
She is featured prominently in the fix'n'flip process right up until IAFF went live.
She lives in a community property State and has been attending finance classes off and on for 5 years.
"The $1000 Contract."

She knew, she benefited, she's liable. The plural of "anecdote" is not "data" but the sum total of all available information can be. The only scrap that says she is not involved is Casey. Like I said; s-crap. S for Serin.

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The Dude said...

FIRST!

The Dude said...

Oh, she's involved......right up to her clipboard. Who's this Lossmitpro?....he's late to the game, isn't he?

Anonymous said...

Casey and Galina can say all they wish about her not being involved. They better be able to prove it. Too many houses bought with her name on paperwork. Houses can be bought in California with only one spouse being on title and doing the loan. The other spouse may have some rights to that property if a dispute arises later on, but one can solely buy a house, if married.

Metroplexual said...

I love the dude! White Russian please, oh wait that is Casey Serin. Hey what is up with his blog and that wacko agreement he signed. $1,000 takehome per week. With his skills he is going to have to start robbing banks.

Jean Valjean said...

DAMMIT!!!

I miss my continous-reloading for some Looser W-2 work that pays only 60k/year and all I get in return is a lousy FIFTH!!

Sucks to be me.

Rob Dawg said...

With his skills he is going to have to start robbing banks.

"START" robbing banks!?!

Metroplexual said...

I should have said start robbing with a gun and mask. Yeah we know that he screwed some banks.

R-Boy said...

I love Casey's disdain for salaried work.


Cube-dweller?

My friends, I have an office with oak furniture. I woke up this morning, a Monday, and looked forward to coming in, because I throughly enjoy my job, which is mainly to figure out where folks got something wrong and nail em with it during trial.

I'd love to know more from LossMitPro.

I think we can discuss Galina also, but in the context to which she's involved. I don't think she is ultimately as guilty as Casey is here.

mejustme said...

I agree. She knew, or should have known.

She told him "no more shady stuff." So she knew there was shady stuff. Did she turn him in to the authorities? No. Did she turn him in to the lenders? No. Did she even tell him she'd have nothing to do with that "dirty" money? No. She lived on it, never lifted a finger to work.

It can't even be said that he hid his finances from her -- even if he didn't go out of his way to share them -- because if she ever wondered where the money came from to support two people, all she had to do was look on the blog.

mejustme said...

So if she was on the deed originally and then had to sign a quitclaim, does that mean she would have been present at the closing? Has he ever talked about her being at the closing?

PMSPMS™©® said...

The questions I ask myself re Galina is:

1. Have we helped give her backbone (i.e. the one she has recently developed)? If you think so then keep it up.

2. If she were my sister would I want this sort of crap (from EN or Casey) on her? NO.

I decided sometime to leave her out. I figured she was not the media whore like KC hence deserved her punishment in private - whenever than may be.

Dumbfounded said...

I didn't see where lossmitpro suggested "Mrs. S not be included in this mess." Can you point to the post?

In any event, if that is what he thinks, then he is still clueless about the situation.

Mermaiden said...

KC turns everyone into Haterz eventually.

Rob Dawg said...

If she were my sister would I want this sort of crap (from EN or Casey) on her?

Tough love?

Anonymous said...

If Galina was originally on any deed from the original purchase, she would have had to sit in front of a Notary and sign the closing documents, which would include documents about the loan(s). Maybe a Notary is in cahoots w/Casey, but I doubt it. Much, much easier to just get Galina to sign and think that quit claiming her off resolves everything.

Rob Dawg said...

"Leave family members out of the fray, unless their involvement can be clearly proven.

Decency requires the latter."
- LossMitPro post #191 latest IAFF.

Worth reviewing and considering IMO. Thus the open discussion.

Rob Dawg said...

Perhaps the pros will chime in but my understanding was that the quitclaims took her off the property but not the loans.

Mozatta said...

You are correct Rob. A quit claim will take you off title, but can't take you off a loan. The only way would be to refinance without your name on the loan or obviously, to sell. So even though she is off title, she would still be on the loan, thus, partially responsible for repayment of said loan.

mejustme said...

Do you guys think Galina and Yulia read EN?

If Galina were to post here, complicity or no complicity, I would be willing to go easy on her just in the interest of hearing her side.

Maybe we should extend a formal invitation.

YouSoSpecial said...

I'm with PMSPMS. I have known plenty of young women who blindly followed a$$h0le$ down disastrous paths (I recall a wrong turn here and there myself) and that's a plausible explanation for all of Galina's complicity. She is finally willing to take responsibility and to change direction, unlike Casey.

Cheers to Yulia for showing her sister the way.

Mermaiden - does that mean we can count Galina on our side now?

WorldsTallestMidget said...

LossMittPro said, "Serious stuff goin on in the background, that I don’t think he fully appreciates." Another cliff hanger. Could you please provide details?

Mermaiden said...

does that mean we can count Galina on our side now?

Maybe not yet but she won't continue to stay with a man she has to write 'contracts' with.

aaron said...

here's a job for casey.

http://www.idkwtf.com/videos/latest-videos/high-voltage-cable-inspection

talk about nuts.

Transititioned from hater to intense loather said...

Methinks Lossmisspro needs to review the effort CS mounted on IAFF to portray his wife as being not involved, in what seemed to me snowflake's flaky effort back in Nov. and Dec. to separate her credit record from his in preparation for BK, and keep her name from being publicized. Obviously, another failed CS scheme because she's up to her ass in this, and close adviser who enjoyed the benefits of their credit card spending spree. Takes two to tango.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

So even though she is off title, she would still be on the loan, thus, partially responsible for repayment of said loan.
So is she a potential recipient of a 1099?

Soem Dood said...

@ 7:54 AM, Rob Dawg said...

With his skills he is going to have to start robbing banks.

"START" robbing banks!?!

*********************************

Genius. I lawl'ed!

Mozatta said...

@ Arthur - That I do not know. I would assume so, but a financial guru would be a better source for this answer.

Dumbfounded said...

@ 8:32 AM, aaron

As an electrical engineer, I have known several members of the "bird on a wire" club. They are well paid highly trained electricians at the top of their field. I have a high respect for what they do. Snowflake would never be able to do that job.

sid_finster said...

Just because G-string said "no more shady business" does not prove that she knew that Casey's schemes were criminal or fraudulent at the time she signed off on them. It only suggests that she figured KC out at some point.

Of course, I haven't seen much evidence to suggest that G was innocent, either.

aaron said...

Dumbfounded.
I know i put that out there as a joke. that type of job required some major major balls. casey couldn't even fathom it.

Rob Dawg said...

Firstly, I remember my uncle using the back of his hand to test for live "big" wires. No thanks. I call in the BiL for 220v or phase work even though I are engineer too.

As to 1099s. Again, I only know enough to be dangerous. I would imagine that the 1099 would essentially be the "reciept" the lender could show to the examiner to prove a loss. If not, what is to stop an unscrupulous lender from routinely writing down loans as nonperforming and selling them at a "loss" against profits to a complicit party? What a scam, call a performing loan "bad," sell it to a buddy, write down against profits so there is no loss. Buddy "discovers" the loan is good and resells at face value. BMWs all around.

Schnapps said...

Snowflake's mad skillz at work: I haven't been able to read the comments for 3 days over at IAFF. Mad skillz, I tell you. Not that I care so much as I get enough out of here to connect the dots.

Oh, and Casey, since you read this: if you want to keep readers and get new ones, you need to provide a good service, which means making your posts below the fold accessible at all times. Its a fairly simple concept in business: supply a product or service, make it reliable so people come back and tell their friends about it so you get more customers.

Apparently, that vowel cost too much to buy for IAFF.

:>

Kirk said...

It seems that Casey is attempting to raise his first $1K by selling monthly adds on IAFF. What happens if he doesn't raise the cash either this week or some following week? According to the contract he has with Galina he'd have to shut the blog down, but he'll also have a contract with the advertisers to keep it up for the month.

My guess is that this is the loophole he's going to use.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

1099s - Would it depend how the lender sees it or the tax arranged? If both of them are on a loan then does the lender assume a 50-50 split or send it to the first named and the tax allow them to divide it up, or what? Where's an accountant when you need one?

Casey Fannnnn said...

Galina is a Carmella!

Nigel's Publicist said...

Regarding Galina, i wouldn't wish her position on my worst (female) enemy - i mean christ, can you imagine what it's like living with casey? I think that if you read between the lines of all snowflake's trolling there is a lot of truth still in there, i think she was lied to from day one about most of what was going on and probably got some serious passive/agressive talking too's if she asked any questions. If she really thought he had a load of money and was keeping his shit together, what's wrong with a hawaii trip etc. I mean, would you think the worse of melinda gates if she had a long holiday but came back to find bill had lied to everyone about his wealth and had to move in with his sister in law? Of course not, because it was his bad, not hers. Casey is obviously a serial liar with no moral compass whatsoever and the way he talks about his wife at every turn shows he has 0 respect for her at best and more likely a very deep seated psychologicl problem plus mysogenistic tendancies. What a lovely combination to live with if you are a submissive type girl.

I don't think this gives her a right to a free pass or anything, she is involved and has to face some scrutiny because of that - but she has never sought ANY publicity in any of this which at the very least means she feels some guilt/shame. We should be nurturing that sentiment and maybe some might rub off on snowflake.

pfffffft yeah, now i read that it sounds pretty fucking dumb. You will never change him Galina, he's a loser for life and you need a divorce now! Shit, you won't even have to move house, what's the problem?

Nigel's Publicist said...

shit "looser" - sorry

Mermaiden said...

G knows. Think about it! She went to school for a long time doing 'books'. She also, for a time, took over their finances. At the end of every year SHE has to sign the tax papers. She knowingly took out credit in her own name and maxed it out. If she didn't know where the money was coming and going that is kind of her own fault at this point.

For 3 crazy years she hasn't figured out what was going on? Like she didn't question when they had to move in with her sister last year? Or that she had to quit school because they couldn't afford gas? This back and forth about her involvement is ridiculous. She knew!

Soem Dood said...

@ 9:09 AM, Casey Fannnnn said...

Galina is a Carmella!
******************************
Excellent insight. [thumbs]

Big Cheese said...

Hey Rob Dawg,

Shouldn't this thread have a different tag / label to read Galina, and not casey?

-Big Cheese

Fear The Murse said...

I've been out of pocket for a bit and in attempting to catch up (there is so much) I read a couple posts regarding a meltdown by Nigelama-ding-dong. Can some kind soul please point me to this?

Rob Dawg said...

I don't have a Galina tag. EN is already near the google top for the phrase anyway. In this I agree with LossMitPro. No matter the level of her involvement she isn't a focus subject.

Anonymous said...

At the risk of changing the subject ... Anyone notice that shit-for-brains Swabtard has removed his balding ugly-ass headshot from his dipshit blog?

Aack!!

S_t-C

Sharky said...

Galina...

Look, if the planets had aligned, and Snowfake had made a mint off of his scams, she wouldn't have questioned where the money came from, would she?

The other side of the coin is that, as has turned out, Casey stepped on his dick, she has to eat the shit-biscuit right along with him.

Is Hobbit the "Sacramento Rasputin" using his hypnotic magnetism to bend G.'s mind to his will and making her sign all those documents?

Who knows?
But I don't think the law, or the creditors will GAS.

Tesla said...

Galina seems like she can easily be led around and Casey is of course a shifty manipulator. I'm 99% sure he pressured and conned her into his world of graft. I feel bad for her predicament but at the end of the day she must sleep in the bed she made.

I'm confused as to why Casey needs to work on the blog full time. It can't take up that much time to post a few times per week and approve comments. And if it takes so long to approve comments then he needs to either ban them or let them post without moderation. There are very few people who make a living from blogging and from what I gather they're not living large. If it were that easy we'd all be sitting around in our pajamas blogging away. What dumbass wouldn't take these basic things into account? Oh wait, this is the guy who thought that merely buying homes would automatically make him rich. Snowflake is just too drunk on thoughts of "passive income" to let reality intrude. What a lazy turd.

Sharky said...

And just for speculation;

Y'all don't suppose that the Hobbit is wearing a paper hat and a polyester uniform while jerkin' Jamba Juices for his betters this Monday morning?

Thought not.

Schnapps said...

WRT, Nigel's meltdown...is that just about removing the comments from DHC and his mug from his blogger account? Or is there something more (wheatgrass) juicy out there?

Weight Master said...

Galina needs to quit allowing Casey to run her life.
http://weight-master.blogspot.com

Rob Dawg said...

Nigel is probably tired of the image edits. Problem is he doesn't understand cause and effect. Like most people suffering from CDD he thinks the symptoms are the disorder. If Nigel got a clue about carnivals, and linkwhoring and Casey coattailing, etc. people wouldn't be algae scalping his pate in photoshop.

lawnmower man said...

Methinks LossMitPro is ripe for addition to CaseyPedia as another burned associate.

unbelievable said...

Casey will have to CONTINUE robbing banks if he wants any shot at 1K per week.

Galina was involved in this venture from the beginning. No doubt about it!

Anonymous said...

I don't think it matters whether Casey alone, or Casey and Galina each get 1099's.

If they file a joint return, it's all the same anyway.

If they file separate returns, it will still add up to the same as a joint return.

If they get divorced, they will have to get ammended paperwork so that each party has their own 1099.

Khatie said...

"Do you guys think Galina and Yulia read EN?

If Galina were to post here, complicity or no complicity, I would be willing to go easy on her just in the interest of hearing her side.

Maybe we should extend a formal invitation"

As manipulative and as nasty, dishonest and verbally abusive as Mr. "Suresuresurethatsagoodquestion" is, I'm beginning to doubt he would even let Galina come near a laptop at home. I think she is accountable, don't get me wrong, but Mr. Snowflake is an abusive little cuss and I am beginning to think he forced her out of school--with a tuition balance, mind you--to force her not only to work, but to isolate her further. Not all abuse is physical.

Such are the ways of abusive, manipulative...men...well, in Casey's case, little boys.

Go, Yulia!

PS. Galina needs to still pay the price for her dealings in this matter. However, I don't think she is a guilty as Casey. Sorry, but the last fraudcast sealed it for me. The fact that he could talk about schemes and credit cards with utter passion, then lapse into that sick, flat, affected tone about his marriage spoke volumes.

Anonymous said...

UZBEKI CORRUPTION nothing new...


http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/05/hbc-90000048


According to recently filed court documents, GlobalOptions clients include Zeromax, a Swiss-based holding company widely reported to be the property of Gulnara Karimova, the powerful daughter of Uzbek dictator Islam Karimov. (A well-placed source told me that she exercises control over the company through a chain of individuals, including two whom she directly employed.) Gulnara, like the rest of the Karimov clan, has grown fabulously wealthy through corruption. She’s also the subject of an Interpol arrest warrant because she fled the United States with her children after losing a child-custody battle with her ex-husband, an American citizen.


Gulnara, a would-be singer, is considered a possible successor to her father. A story in the Guardian identified $60 million in assets belonging to Gulnara, which included nightclubs, investment holdings, and a recording studio. That is believed to be a very small portion of her overall wealth, which reportedly includes stakes in energy and telecommunications ventures as well. “Uzbek media,” said the newspaper, “which are tightly state-controlled, have praised Ms. Karimova for charity works, dubbing her the Princess of Uzbeks.” It looks like GlobalOptions is Princess Gulnara’s escort to the Washington Ball.

C-Corp Man said...

I am a firm believer that Nigel Swaby is involved with RCS. Strange that the site stops posting new Dawg lies at the same time Nigel removes comments from DHC (now with zero new posts!). Even better is his attempt to disrupt Duane. He posted a rebuttal and mysteriously pulled it down as soon as it went up. Why is that Nigel Swaby? You know Duane is the truthy while you are all full of lies.

Too many strange coincidences and since we all know he visits here as a mixture of Comcast and anonymous proxy, it's obvious...the heat was turned up and either Nigel realized he would not win this battle that HE started.

Maybe Byron got on him about all this. It truly IS bad for business at a time when Mortgage Brokers need every sale they can muster.

BTW - I heard Casey's call in show. My observations are this:

Best callers: Duane, Treehorn, Benoit, Declan.

Best attempts to bait Casey but they failed: That guy at the end who hated Nigel (Dog or Doc?). I got the feeling he was baiting Casey into saying something by using an old management trick I've used in the past - be friendly and gain the trust. Sometimes you can get more out of somebody by being nice to them. I couldn't figure out where he was going but I did enjoy how he got Casey angry with the wife comments. The ego stroking was classic too.

Best moment where Casey broke character: Duane. Love the lemonade stand comments.

Also has anybody noticed how IAFF has been overrun with commentary critical of Duane? What's up with all that?

Anonymous said...

RE: Galina is a Carmella

See related comments under EN Jan. 30th "There's Gonna Be a Beat'n"

Sorry, no linky, me worky @ W2 busy presently.

Schnapps said...

Even better is his attempt to disrupt Duane. He posted a rebuttal and mysteriously pulled it down as soon as it went up. Why is that Nigel Swaby?

Oh. Is that what I miss by having a full-time job with a regular paycheque? Such a looser. I didn't know he put up a post attempting to rebute Duane - is there a cache of it somewhere?

Rob Dawg said...

Casey may actually be up against the wall. Yes, I know LE has images but did anyone save the Flickr pics? JJuice got a lot but I'm afraid too many will be lost to the depths of time. Yes, the Flickr account is down.

Soem Dood said...

Well, today marks a day that should make the elder Suprins and the Serins very proud indeed. [sarcasm OFF]

You see, it is now unambiguous that in the 'any publicity is good publicity' world, Bonnie and Clyde OOPS -- Snowflake and G gyrl -- are now firmly affixed on the top of the trash heap.

If anyone in the extended family clan should deign Google the term "World's Most Hated Blogger", the results can only be thought of as spectacularly disgusting.

Casey would say it's thanks to CNET, but I say it's thanks to their own dizzying unwavering idiocy, even in light of numerous attempts by stranger and friend alike to cause them to veer from their spiraling path to infamy.

I hope Murse Boy considers: What was it that stopped them from getting away with attempted mortgage number NINE? (the mind reels)It was just a quick Google search.

Simple really.

Do you think any self-respecting LEO can actually get a link to an article or such a search from a friend, family, coworker, criminal, boss, or stranger and fail to grasp the enormity of how completely you are pushing your boot into society's collective FACE with your continued unrepentant boasting?

Sooner or later, the day of reckoning is coming, Casey.

And given your Talkback performance, Beg-a-thons, blogging, and just general NOTORIETY (in the very important legal sense), I'd say that day is likely much sooner rather than later.

What song has G been playing a lot lately?

"Midnight plane to Georgia -- OOPS -- Uzbek" ?

Or does she want to try to stay in the land of the big PX while you chill out until the heat blows over, and try to slink back? Boy, it would take a heck of a strong marriage to make that work, especially after years of stress ending in distrust and doubt, huh...?

Dang, you are really up the creek, ain't you, boy?

But "it's all good™", anyway, right?

Anonymous said...

Dawg is right. No friggin' way Casey's other half is innocent. She knew very well what her hubby was up to, and lived the high life. I don't think anyone can believe she didn't know her husband was up to no good when he quit his job and took her to Hawaii... I mean, what kind of wife wouldn't know her husband was doing wrong when he bought EIGHT friggin' houses? I know my wife would have said a thing or two...

LossMitPro said...

About Galina Serin
A few things to understand so that the following makes more sense, thus please bear with me. First off, I met Galina (once) during a three hour dinner meeting with Casey (I bought, at my insistence, in case you’re wondering). Second, I am qualified to make certain behavioral observations and determinations as I’m trained and authorized to do so under California’s ADR Programs Act. Third, and lastly, my objectivity in reporting here may be affect somewhat because I happen to like Galina (based on my personal observations).

Having made all that clear...

Galina Serin can best be described as a “lady” in the truest sense of that word. She is vastly different than her husband, both in behavior and speech. She is poised, well-mannered and gracious typifying a subservient yet supportive and loving Christian wife. She will speak her mind when appropriate, but mostly allows Casey to control the substance of discussions. She is quiet and soft spoken.

Galina does not make rash statements; she speaks deliberately -- always with a purpose, and is apparently of a very rational mind. When she speaks direct eye contact is predominant, and mannerisms convey a strong sense of sincerity.

She understands the complexities of what Casey does with his blog, but I sense (based on body language) does not approve. She is a private person who is less compulsive than Casey -- as is obvious by her physical reactions to certain stimuli. (For instance during our talks I made a number of trigger statements to seek reactions from both, Galina and Casey.)

As to the matter of whether or not Galina willfully participated in Casey’s Real Estate forays? I believe she had but in the role of a supportive wife, not with any criminal (wrong doer) intent. (If she is a grifter, which I seriously doubt, she was taught by one far more skilled in manipulative tactics than Casey -- who is inept at hiding areas of sensitivity.)

With respect to Galina’s transfer of property title to Casey? This is a common & customary practice in the State Of California, when one spouse is on paper (signatory to a loan) and the other is not. That does not mean Galina knew or understood what Casey was actually doing.

Regarding her credit card involvement? This too is a non-issue to prove any conspiratorial acts or duplicity. Galina’s personality type is to generally go-with-the-flow where her husband is concerned, resisting only when she fully understands the gravity and consequences of an issue. In short I sense, but cannot absolutely prove, that when it came to using credit cards? Galina simply believed Casey’s contentions and allowed the process.

Please note the above does not mean I am 100 percent accurate, and is not offered to you as absolute fact (proof of no wrong doing by Galina). There are some variables here (a few, not many) although the probabilities are, reasonably, that Galina’s involvement in Casey’s fiascoes is not as coconspirator, but nothing more than a supportive and loving wife.

You good folks are of course free to draw your own conclusions.

~Mark

Sharky said...

"Whatcha gonna do
With them loans
With them loans
On those eight homes?

I'm gonna ignore those loans
Got no homes,
won't pay those loans!

Whatcha gonna do
With that debt
All that debt
Over your head?

I'm gonna have a juice
Jamba-Juice
And just hang loose!

And they're not leeeend-ing!

Ain't got no cash-back comin'
I'm gonna end up running!

My loans my loans!
My sweet cash-back liar loans!
I don't have a job
But I used to own eight homes!

But they're not leeend-ing!

Whatcha gonna do
With that wife?
With that wife
All on your life?

I'm gonna work that wife!
Give me no more
Domestic strife!

Whatcha gonna tell
Cashcall?
When they take
Your shit and all?

I'm gonna beg for cash...
beg some cash
To save my stash!

My loans-my loans
My lovely liar-loans..."

(Apologies to Black-Eyed Peas)

Anonymous said...

Casey's dream job:

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/963.html

Rob Dawg said...

"I mean, what kind of wife wouldn't know her husband was doing wrong when he bought EIGHT friggin' houses?"

All I know is if I buy two loaves of bread on sale I get ripped a new one if I didn't use coupons.

No. Seriously. My wife is a real professional, masters plus continuing ed, high powered j-o-b. We still clip and use coupons. 70% anyone? And we aren't talking special trips for the sale items only. There's still meat and fresh veggies in that total. As a codicle it also includes any number of personal grooming products, girly stuff, deodorant, toothpaste, etc.

Coupons plus careful shopping in a context of rational nutrition is a powerful force. Look at the dandelion. Does he look 24 anymore? Not in my opinion. He isn't careful about food, he isn't careful about spending on food, he isn't careful about money and the balance of work and recreation. All make him older than his years physically while holding him back emotionally and intellectually.

Anonymous said...

LossMitPro said...

About Galina Serin


LossMitPro, I'm James_Marks over at IAFF. Now I understand why you defended her so vehemently. I apologize (if that makes sense, since you aren't Galina).

Here's hope she finds happiness somewhere else.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

I don't think it matters whether Casey alone, or Casey and Galina each get 1099's.
I do, because it might be a WTF moment for G.

I'll add I think that lossmitpro's observations of G are more in line with my thoughts about her. Casey will have picked someone like that as a partner because she will be the "little wife" and he'll be able to manipulate her if he needs to. She might ask questions of Casey but he'll talk his way out of it. Equally, "little wives" don't grass up their husbands at the earliest opportunity and won't do until very late in the day, if ever. If it comes to prosecutions of them both, I know who'd be the easier to defend by a long way.

Anonymous said...

The only reason Galina has taken some action is because she's been in the position several times lately of being flat broke. She's now realizing that borrowed money isn't working out for them.

Before recent times, she was just fine with spending borrowed money with no means to pay it back.

No sympathy for her at all. Some of that defaulted debt paid for her clothes, shoes, and Starbucks.

Schnapps said...

Galina may be a very nice person, even naive and malleable, and shall I say, old-fashioned.

But ultimately, she was an accessory - she allowed him to carry on, when she could have walked away.

The woman needs an attorney. Her own attorney that can counsel her, and her alone, if she wants to get out of this clean.

Sharky said...

RobDawg:

"All I know is if I buy two loaves of bread on sale I get ripped a new one if I didn't use coupons."

Nice to meet ya, Mister Rockefeller!

Mort said...

I visualize G. behind the scenes helping Casey be a flamebait on his blog, helping Casey get credit lines, helping Casey spend the ill-gotten gains. Now that the gravy train is running out of track she is becoming disillusioned, but she is still behind the scenes, enabling and abetting his behavior. Only when she realizes that Casey will not get rich, or they face prosecution will she turn on him. The rest is for public consumption. I don't think he even alludes to her without her permission / encouragement.

LossMitPro said...

Anon @ 10:36 AM:
”No sympathy for her at all. Some of that defaulted debt paid for her clothes, shoes, and Starbucks.”


There are more dynamics here than meet the eye, although I respect your opinion. I do feel strongly enough about my take concerning Galina that I’ll offer this... If there are any criminal prosecutions (questionable), against both the Serin’s, I’ll offer my expertise to Galina’s Defense Counsel -- Pro Bono.

Again I’m operating on what I’ve seen, what I know, what I’ve investigated. So that may attribute to what only appears as a contradictory view from yours, which has a valid (if not inaccurate) point.

~Mark

LossMitPro said...

@ Rob Dawg:

Forgot to mention, I think this is a worthwhile topic. Kudos to you Rob for bringing it up!

~Mark

Arthur Wankspittle said...

Rob Dawg, you or your wife been reading John Cummuta? :)

Anonymous said...

@Mark

I've tried to point out several times recently that what we know of Galina is from *Casey*, not her own words - the only thing we've heard from her is from the Cnet article, and now your observations.

I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but I drew back from attacking her as we only know what he says...and he's a demonstrable liar and manipulator. he also by his *own admission* presented a false reality to her before they married as to his financial status - that she stayed is another matter, but according to her beliefs, undertandable.

We do not know if she understood anything she signed, if Casey told her the truth of what they were, or is he told her partial truths. His games with deeds could have been "Here, honey, sign this...oh, it's just a formality."

We do not know if she spent the max on the credit cards in her name. You can assume she knows about them, as he has published their existence online, but did she actually use them, except possibly for groceries/bills/etc... with Casey telling her it was okay to do so? Or did he dole out cash advances to her, or dump them into a checking account, and she simply used a debit, like most people do now?

There was a lot of talk early on in the IAFF comments that Casey did not tell her the WHOLE truth of their precarious situation. Is that still teh case, or is the promisary note, or the March 6th "No more debt" agreement a result of *full* disclosure on how much he owes, and to who?

It's certainly a rational (somewhat, in the bounds of what she probably sees as her duties as a wife, according to her faith) reaction to a full disclosure that the debt stop HERE.

Or did she know every time he opened up a new line of credit?

Or did he tell her when he handed cash over, he earned it, as "earning" money seems to be a hot topic according to their promissary note - not borrowing or scamming for it.

We don't know. We can only guess from what we've seen.

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, but hold back enough if it's revealed she is more complicit.

Hell, Casey is such a liar and immoral cocksucker, I could see him taking those cards out in her name and forging her signature and blowing through them. I'm not saying he did, but i could believe it. Or harrassing and whining and manipulating her to sign for them, with 'I'll pay them off in no time, it's all good!", and her saying, "You better, that's on MY credit!" (Thus her request he "save" her credit."

Mark, could you elaborate more on thise "trigger" questions? Not specifcially in what you asked them, but in general? I've heard a little bit about that kind of thing, I'm really curious!

Anonymous said...

I have a question:

I can't post this at Rob Dawg's, for some reason, but here goes:

@ LossMitPro

Second, I am qualified to make certain behavioral observations and determinations as I’m trained and authorized to do so under California’s ADR Programs Act.

What does this mean? ADR to me means Alternative Dispute Resolution? My WESTLAW search reveals only one portion of the California Code referencing "ADR ACT" (and that is the insurance Code) and no California cases that reference that term "ADR ACT".

Sprezzatura said...

I don't know if LMP's take is valid or not, but at least he has met Galina.

Anonymous said...

I guess I can post it here, was using an illegal "paragraph" html tag.

Anonymous said...

@ sprezzatura

He (LMP) has one on just about everyone other than rat-lab in that regard.

Anonymous said...

I also think Galina took action after getting pressure from her family.

If she could have continued on as she's been - laying around all day, sleeping past noon, going shopping on borrowed money, nothing would have changed with her.

Anonymous said...

"His games with deeds could have been "Here, honey, sign this...oh, it's just a formality.""


Wouldn't an educated person and someone aspiring to be a CPA, know better than that?

El Gabo Gringo said...
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Akubi said...

I've known women that fit Mark's description of Galina and without sufficient information about her, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Jus Askin said...

Would everyone be so sympathetic towards Galina if she was fat and ugly?

Rob Dawg said...

"without sufficient information about [Galina], I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. "

Yes. The problem is the evidence.

Anonymous said...

@Jus Askin

Yes.

El Gabo Gringo said...

RE: GALINA

I can see both sides here. Personally, until she starts a blog and makes podcasts that show her to be a selfish, arrogant looser, I'll reserve judgement.

She could be in a semi-abusive relationship, she could be semi-complicit. Right now I don't know enough to say and frankly don't care.

=====

What's great about Snowflake is how he's gotten conned again and again. Hey Casey, you are a sucker and a tiny little man.

Rob Dawg said...

Would everyone be so sympathetic towards Galina if she was fat and ugly?

Gosh, tough question. Not.

I know all about what you think you are talking about. Not pretty not truthful. Why do youthink Lady Lierty is so classical?

Alan Smithee/gt said...

Issue here: How to define "involved".
Do we mean (1) aware of shady deals/law breakage or (2) a party to the "ill gotten gains"; i.e. "life style to which she is accustomed"

(Or is the phrase "to which she feels entitled"?).

Petty perhaps, and old news, of course, but she’s been married to Snowflake for a mere 3 years. According to his google spreadsheet as of the end of January, she has/had 4 citi accounts, 3 chase accounts, 1 discover (all maxed) to the tune of $26K and—presumably recently—a $300 with HSB and $500 at Macy’s. (Again, this could be viewed differently if we knew more about who is doing the credit line opening and spending, and who and what is behind the scenes.)

What 24 year old has 26K solely in credit card debt?

(Okay, without casting stones, let’s be honest that student loan debt & putting self through college would NOT be the same as 26K worth of Jamba Juice, faux status-symbol-attire, trips to Hawaii and Macaroni Grille for the unemployed two-non-disabled-grownup-household.)

$500 at Macy’s…Ain’t no ramen sold at Macy’s folks. No food, no gasoline, no “necessities”. When you are 2.2 mil in debt, this is an issue.

And there is a disturbing lil’ note on the Macy’s line of the google spreadsheet. There is a notation from Casey that says “store accnt, not crdit”. Well, darling, how is a store account “not credit.”????

It’s cerulean, not blue!

_____________________

LossMitPro--

You have some valid points and a straightforward demeanor, respect this, I do.

And I almost feel sort of bad for the situation /realities surrounding this woman. (Not to be interpreted as sympathy for her personally.)

The subservient religious wife angle has been discussed with some depth and sensitivity here, believe it or not; but in the end, from my experiences and upbringing, and whatnot...honestly... I have zero tolerance for the "pity the poor battered wife" angle, as compliant, deferential and articulate as she might be; an abusive, manipulative sociopath who wants a divorce for a husband or not.

It is the underlying elements that are disturbing, yes; rubbing so many of our sensibilities the wrong way.

If, as you say, she is a victim in some sense, kudos on willingness to pro bono.

Your freshly-offered perspective on the wife, based on having met her, is revealing.

However, valid as your discussion might be, you may not change some of the strong feelings surrounding this couple that abound in the blogosphere, as much of the discussion is not around the wife personally, per se, but the societal/generational realities at work...entitlement, work ethic, lack of education, conflicts of underlying values, integrity gaps, mental illness, the culture of debt/consumerism... and their nasty trainwreck of a result.

Anonymous said...

"Wouldn't an educated person and someone aspiring to be a CPA, know better than that?"

Maybe. We only know what Casey told us.

I watched my mother sign tax returns for decades without reading them. Was she stupid? No, she trusted my father to not make her sign anything that would get her in trouble. (Which he did, he was very conservative when it came to thiks like taxes).


Remember...Galina may have been/be going through the same discovery process we are about Casey and his true nature.

Mark...just out of curiousity, how did they act a couple? Cold? PDAs? (pulic displays of affection). How does casey, through body language and verbal, treat his wife? As an equal? Superior? Inferior? If you could chooce one word to describe how they are together, what would it be?

Anonymous said...

Regarding the 1,000 bucks a week.

I hope you all know that Casey already knows that he will make at least 1k a week on his blog.

Casey is a con-man and his wife is supporting him all the way to the bank. This is all an up-front folks to get more hits to Casey web site.

I am willing to bet money that he will magically hit 1,000 on the very last minute of his deadline, just like magic.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps it is a front.

Mark could be a plant, too, sent here to dupe us and fool us.

On teh intenets, you never knows...

Which is why some of us stay anonymous.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

"His games with deeds could have been "Here, honey, sign this...oh, it's just a formality.""


Wouldn't an educated person and someone aspiring to be a CPA, know better than that?

No that's the point about her being the obedient wife to the patriarch of the family. There's a lot of social situation pressure here. We discussed a related topic to this recently when we were talking about intelligence. You can be intelligent but hopelessly impractical. You could think that some of your husbands deals are a bit funny, but your husband talks you out of it every time and assures you "its all good".
(OMG - I just called Casey a Patriarch!)

Sac RE Agent said...

Whether Galina or Casey gets prosecuted for loan fraud is one issue. Whether or not Galina knew about what was going on, she did. She had to sit down and sign loan docs, for 5 or 6 houses, in a one month period. This is done with a notary, if not an title/escrow officer, on the other side of the table, giving a short explanation of what is being signed.

I just can't believe this seemed so commonplace to Galina that she wouldn't question anything about it, even with her sister. She may not have known the complete depth of everything Casey was doing, but she was/is involved.

Akubi said...

Rob Dawg,
I'm just that I've known women with a disturbing lack of assertiveness and often it's cultural or due to low self-esteem, etc. Until she speaks for herself, I'm hesitant to pass judgement on her.

flailing forward said...

Whether Galina is a nice person or not is irrelevant. Just like Casey, she hasn't worked since at least December '05 (except for the recent housecleaning) and that stolen money has been paying her rent this whole time (well, when it actually gets paid.) She went on about 75% of the trips to properties and seminars with Casey according to his own chart. She attempted to run the rehab of the Modesto property. She knew enough about what was going on to realize that things weren't kosher (she was planning on being an accountant) so if she chose not to say anything that hardly absolves her of wrongdoing.

If she is such a stand-up gal, why isn't she working on paying back her half of the debt? Casey hasn't paid back a single dirty penny, but neither has she. She sure as hell would have spent half the profits if fliptard had lucked out on these properties, so she can forget trying to squirm out of her share of the debt. There is no "leave Galina out of it," she was in it as soon as her rent got paid with sweet sweet cashback.

BJ said...

Re: Galina

Remember how Casey behaved and responded to questions on the last Begathon? Imagine trying to live with that 24/7. Imagine trying to get a straight answer out of Casey, in particular if you are a woman (considering his behavior towards women).

Remember, Galina is naive compared to some of the people who called in.. and who had a problem with Casey's RealityDistortionField™. I do agree that naiveté is not an excuse, but it is a mitigating circumstance. Before you condemn her, imagine living in her shoes, with her type of religion which gives her almost no way out, living with Caseys RealityDistortionField™ 24/7. If you think that she spent a lot of the money, I would recommend you look at the debt sheet closely. You will notice that the Macys card is not a credit card(store account, not credit). Considering how Casey used his 'corporation'.. I think Casey first used Galina's credit in much the same way.

As of the 2/5/2006 sheet, unsecured debt on Galina was $26,319. Unsecured debt on Casey was $148,402. I need to update these for interest charges which, on the average, were about 30%.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

I'm just that I've known women with a disturbing lack of assertiveness and often it's cultural or due to low self-esteem...
That's where I'm coming from too.
If there ever are any prosecutions out of this, my guess would be that both would be prosecuted as law enforcement couldn't be seen not to try pinning something on G. Whether that would stand up in court I doubt.

Sprezzatura said...

w/r/t signing tax returns -- as it happens, I do the taxes in our household. Once I finish them, I hand them to The Spouse and say, "here honey, sign this." He does, generally without more than a cursory glance through the papers.

I would suggest that if you need to go through things your spouse gives you with a fine-tooth comb looking for problems, you probably shouldn't be maried to that person.

Akubi said...

I tend to agree with what PMSPMS™©® wrote earlier:
2. If she were my sister would I want this sort of crap (from EN or Casey) on her? NO.

Flailing,
Maybe she's clinically depressed and that's why she naps and sleeps so much? I sure would be if I were married to Casey.

Anonymous said...

There's also the "Carmella Soprano" angle - kinda sorta knows something fishy is going on, but the bills are paid, so there's no worries.

Since the very little we know is unverifiable, she must remain an enigma, unless she publically speaks.

I don't know, the Galina as the "woman behind the curtain" doesnt ring true...it's too...Casey.

Anonymous said...

Galina signed federal loan docks. No one forced her to do that. They both lied.

If she had been forced to sign those docs, she would have come out by now.

A judge looks at the bottom line and Galina has zero if any excuses.

I don't know Galina's views on this, but it is obvious she was part of the fraud. I am confused why some see her as an inocent party in all of this?

Anonymous said...

The bottom line;

Galina didn't think of getting a job, or demanding Casey do the same until the debt-train started losing steam and the collectors were banging on their door.

She was just fine with being several hundred thousand in debt all of the past year. She laid around the house waiting for Casey to "pull money out of his ass". All the RE debt aside, she made no effort whatsoever to honor the debts she had incurred herself.

Anonymous said...

"I am confused why some see her as an inocent party in all of this?"

to feed their sick "rescue poor little Galina" fantasies. LOL!

Anonymous said...

I understand those who want to protect the inocent - I am one of those.

But Galina's participation in the multiple loan fraud is publicly available and admitted by Casey - they both signed loan dock with false information.

With these facts on hand, she is as guilty as Casey. No more, no less.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

Galina signed federal loan docks. No one forced her to do that. They both lied.
Sorry but when have you ever known a wife/husband not to sign a document when presented by the other? (I mean in normal circumstances, not Hollywood pre-nup stuff)
There was a test case a few years back here in the UK when it was successfully argued in court that the wife was not properly advised as to what she was signing and it caused a change in the wording of loan contracts and legal advice processes.

Soem Dood said...

"...$500 at Macy’s…Ain’t no ramen sold at Macy’s folks..."

C'mon guys, you gotta know Ramen ain't good enough for Pool Boi, just read his Flicker caption:

"...Didn't want to eat the unnatural ingredients..."

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sercasey/503526656/

Hey, here's a little tip, Murse-hugger: When you go to county lock-up, you might be ingesting stuff a lot less savory, and with no information as to it's origins!

Anonymous said...

Regarding Galina.

Anyone else noticed how close her eyes are? Is she a Cyclops?

My goodness, when I see that picture of her sitting at the big table with the rest of the clan, she scares me. It's like one big eye smack in the middle.

Weird and freaky.

Akubi said...

BTW,
I'm not saying she's innocent, because there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. However, having done volunteer work for abused women, I can to a understand the "dynamics" Mark describes to a certain extent.

Akubi said...

Apologies for the sloppy writing. Multi-tasking with my looser W-2 job.

Anonymous said...

re: eyes

Too much sitting in front of tv and monitors.

Besides sleeping, what else does she do?

Rob Dawg said...

Anyone else noticed how close her eyes are? Is she a Cyclops?


Talk about lame trolls. No ne has said slut, no one has said anything about this stuff. Move on troll.

Anonymous said...

@Arthur Wankspittle

Galina went along with the story because she $saw$ the $cash$ back money.

Very few people can be foreced against their will to sign legal documents in which they will lose money. In other words, Galina was "willing" becasue she thought she would get money out of it too.

If Galina was told that she would be cleaning toilets today to pay for food and $200k the hole, she would not have signed anything - even forced.

Anonymous said...

What can we reliably treat as true?

Her names are on the deeds.

And the promissary note for 50K to CountryWide.

They went to guru seminars.

That's it.

How do we know she signed all the mortages?

Because Casey told us.

Have we seen the mortgages? Nope.

Casey is a demonstrable liar, and thus is unreliable as a source of information.

It's all conjecture. You may be right, she could have been a willing part of it all.

But my money is he told her just enough truth wrapped up in big, fat stinking lies to manipulate her to go along with it, and she's young enough and niave enough to have fallen for it.

What she knew, when she knew it, and what she did is something we can only guess at.

Me, I'm not trusting anything shithead has told us, now, or in the past, or in the future.

We don't even know if that spreadsheet is accurate, tells the whole picture, or even if any of those accounts exist, they're not backed up with the actual documents.

Hell, I'd start doubting they're even married at this point, but marriage records can be found.

Anonymous said...

What can we reliably treat as true?

Her names are on the deeds.

And the promissary note for 50K to CountryWide.

They went to guru seminars.

That's it.

How do we know she signed all the mortages?

Because Casey told us.

Have we seen the mortgages? Nope.

Casey is a demonstrable liar, and thus is unreliable as a source of information.

It's all conjecture. You may be right, she could have been a willing part of it all.

But my money is he told her just enough truth wrapped up in big, fat stinking lies to manipulate her to go along with it, and she's young enough and niave enough to have fallen for it.

What she knew, when she knew it, and what she did is something we can only guess at.

Me, I'm not trusting anything shithead has told us, now, or in the past, or in the future.

We don't even know if that spreadsheet is accurate, tells the whole picture, or even if any of those accounts exist, they're not backed up with the actual documents.

Hell, I'd start doubting they're even married at this point, but marriage records can be found.

Anonymous said...

What can we reliably treat as true?

Her names are on the deeds.

And the promissary note for 50K to CountryWide.

They went to guru seminars.

That's it.

How do we know she signed all the mortages?

Because Casey told us.

Have we seen the mortgages? Nope.

Casey is a demonstrable liar, and thus is unreliable as a source of information.

It's all conjecture. You may be right, she could have been a willing part of it all.

But my money is he told her just enough truth wrapped up in big, fat stinking lies to manipulate her to go along with it, and she's young enough and niave enough to have fallen for it.

What she knew, when she knew it, and what she did is something we can only guess at.

Me, I'm not trusting anything shithead has told us, now, or in the past, or in the future.

We don't even know if that spreadsheet is accurate, tells the whole picture, or even if any of those accounts exist, they're not backed up with the actual documents.

Hell, I'd start doubting they're even married at this point, but marriage records can be found.

Anonymous said...

Sorry about the triple post, my browser freaked out - Dawg, cleanup on Aisle 1?

Anonymous said...

Sorry about the triple post, my browser freaked out - Dawg, cleanup on Aisle 1?

Schnapps said...

Do you suppose Casey has all his forms in triplicate, much like this previous comment? :)

Anonymous said...

Check California laws.

So we know both signed at least on both of the California properties.

flailing forward said...

@ anon 11:40
She also takes the Christmas tree out on Feb. 28th and can make sweet jello desserts.

@ Akubi
Maybe you're right and she is depressed or being emotionally abused by Casey. But regardless, she's complicit in the fraud, and I've seen a lot more reasons to believe she was a willing participant than railroaded by fliptard.

Anonymous said...

Public records say she signed them.

I really don't see why anyone is debating her complicity. She's clearly a guilty party. Maybe not as much as Casey but guilty nonetheless.

Legion said...

Hey
Screw Galina, I don't care if she is innocent or not, (and I don't think she is). Casey told her he was broke on their wedding day, he used a credit card to pay for her engagement ring and honeymoon. Did she really think he had money hidden somewhere? Were they paying for everything with hidden cas? He said he was broke! C'mon, she married him til death do they part, that includes all the scams that he has pulled since they got hitched. There is no way as a cpa student that she wasn't keeping track of their debt, either that or she is retarded like her husband. Her name is on all those documents, she signed for them.
As for Lossmitpro's description of her as well as offer of pro bono work, Jus Askin was right..would the description and probono work be offered if she was fat and ugly?
More than likely it would not be. Why didn't he offer the same thing to PRlinkbiz the Hutt?

mejustme said...

Whether she's meek and loving and Christian is all well and good, but she is an adult woman responsible for her own actions.

Would she be in the position she's in now without Casey? I doubt it. So she's not equally culpable, but she does bear some responsiblity just because she enjoyed the benefits of money she knew -- or should have known -- was shady.

She supports her husband. That's nice. But why did she pick said husband, of all people? Because she was naive? Most people become haterz pretty quickly when they see what a loafer and equivocator Casey is. She, on the other hand, was attracted to that. Because she was lied to? But what were the lies, that he was a big-time RE mogul who could take care of her.

I just hear Galina calling Dr. Laura, who would respond: "But YOU picked him!"

I have no doubt that she's a nice person. I also would probably think Casey is a nice person if I had met him some other way. Just because people are nice and/or good-looking doesn't mean they can't screw up royally.

Think of all those credit card applications she had to sign. (According to Casey, she's not on any of the mortgages except the hard-money loan.) It's one thing if a woman is duped by a man and he forges her signature and cleans out her accounts. She signed willingly. She charged willingly. She expected Casey to "save her credit" despite her never lifting a finger to earn any money for three years.

She may be nice and personable, but she is NOT blameless.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

Galina went along with the story because she $saw$ the $cash$ back money.
Who says she even knew about the cashback at the time she signed?
Very few people can be foreced against their will to sign legal documents in which they will lose money. In other words, Galina was "willing" becasue she thought she would get money out of it too.

If Galina was told that she would be cleaning toilets today to pay for food and $200k the hole, she would not have signed anything - even forced.

She might not sign anything now but 12 months ago she'd have signed anything as a dutiful wife to Casey. Now she's struggling moneywise and living at her sisters there's more chance her family can see what's happening and advise her. That was never going to happen while living it up with Casey in the early days. Reality is starting to bite.
As others have pointed out 99% of info about G is off Casey which isn't a great recommendation.

Nigels Mom said...

"She also takes the Christmas tree out on Feb. 28th"


Well you know, she's been pretty busy and all....

BJ said...

@Sprezzatra
I would suggest that if you need to go through things your spouse gives you with a fine-tooth comb looking for problems, you probably shouldn't be maried to that person.

Very true. You have to have a level of trust in the relationship. Once that is voided.. so much for the relationship as well. Galina needs to understand that last sentence (and ignore what 'religion' tells her).

On how law enforcement might handle it.. get the two in separate rooms and pressure both. Whoever cracks first gets the deal. Other one has the book thrown at them. My impression is that Galina would actually hold out (being a good wife) and Casey the Snowflake™ would cave first, willing to shaft anybody to get ahead/save his ass.

Jus Sayin said...

I'd offer a paper bag to Erin.

Anonymous said...

I think the bottom portion of the "no more debt" agreement says it all: if any credit should be taken after that it must be with a clear written plan (action, payments, payoff) and in _harmonious_ agreement with Galina Serin without pressuring her or manipulating her or taking advantage of her.

If he didn't have a history of pressuring her and manipulating her, they would not have put that in the contract.

I see her as at a minimum being emotionally abused by Casey. I've no doubt that if he wanted something from her he would browbeat her until he got it. I really hope those contracts she had him sign are a prelude to divorcing him. His words indicate he has no respect for her and I hope she realizes that.

L.

Legion said...

Galina must have read the blog and EN by now, she must realize that he is a crook. If she was so innocent, she would have just turned him in already. And don't strt with the bullshit about how they are married etc...she KNOWS he is doing wrong, he should be turned in. the only reason she won't, is because he has something over her as well..like the fact that she knew about all his scams. She must know by now that he would turn her in in a second if it meant plea bargaining and extra 12 hours off his sentence. He obviously doesn't really give a shit aobut her as evidenced by his statements in the last loosercast.

flailing forward said...

@ anon 11;48, 11:48, 11:48
Her name was at least on all three Sacramento properties. Those were Calla Way, Burdett Way, and Larchmont. These are public records on Sacramento County's website, and show that she was originally on the titles but Casey had them transferred into only his name. He said this was done at her behest.

Alan Smithee/gt said...

@ Akubi--

You see, it is the elemental "disturbing lack of assertiveness..".."cultural or low self esteem" part that I judge, that fires me up. Granted, with a limited lens into her life, I often project my frustration onto her personally and not enough on the broader things shaping her.

That she as a woman apparently ALLOWS herself to be shaped so by the broader things (when in our society, there are so many other opportunities) is why I have no respect for her.

(Still, conversely, you can bet that a conservative Muslim wife would have no respect for me or my values either).

I'm not evolved enough to say I haven't passed judgment on her, or that I won't, personally and on a broader level.

I have.

This may not fill me with pride, but I have. And it is this quickness to judgment, this lack of sympathy, that would preclude me from working, for example, as a domestic violence counselor.

Galina: she may be temporarily or terminally clueless, her living situation sucks; her husband is a idiot, a sick, stupid f*ck and world wide laughing stock, she could very well (and understandably be) depressed. This I could all empathize with.

But what action has she taken, what responsibility of her own, for her own success and realities?

A "contract" with her husband, a year too late? Nope. She shoulda left a long, long time ago.

And have been smarter (or luckier in birth and circumstance, I guess) than to feel pressured to marry so young and marry because her intended says he can "pull money out of his butt" (her words, according to Casey, that is.)

I've said some mean things about her

...but I've never asked that we reserve the "pimpgalina.com" domain, or offered to pay for trampoline rides as some other haterz have...

Sadly, I know, I judge her for her inaction, her complicity and by my perception of her "failure" to be a liberated woman.

Legion said...

@Jus sayin

two bagger
One to hide her face, one to hide mine.

Anonymous said...

@Arthur Wankspittle

There are plenty of public records showing title being transfer from Galina Serin to Casey Serin.

So purely from a factual perspective, she signed loan docks with false information. Why False? Because of the intent to live on said property cannot be done multiple times in such a short time.

These are pure facts. No more, no less.

Another fact: She signed those docks. If she was forced do to so, she had plenty of time by now to report the crime done against her.

mejustme said...

Alan Smithee ...

$500 at Macy’s…Ain’t no ramen sold at Macy’s folks. No food, no gasoline, no “necessities”.

Actually in my younger days I used to charge meals in their restaurant all the time when I was broke (but no ramen). But that was on the East Coast. I haven't seen any Macy's with restaurants on the West Coast, though, so you're probably right.

Arthur Wankspittle said...

@bj
I can't see the law enforcement scenario as you paint it. G's counsel would surely go for a deal where she stays out of jail but admits the technicality of signing some docs. Casey might "cave first" but he can only implicate either himself or both of them. He can't point the finger at G.

Anonymous said...

"If she was so innocent, she would have just turned him in already"


YUP!

flailing forward said...

@ Legion
two bagger
One to hide her face, one to hide mine.


Still wouldn't help. Her hideousness can penetrate lead.

007 said...

Sorry no pass for the G-girl. She is guilty by association. And the lovestruck/poor submissive wife defense won't fly either. It isn't like she didn't have a place to go if she wanted to leave Snowflake. She has been living with her sister for how long now? So the "beat down" wifey with no place to go won't hunt.

She found out Snowflake had lied about his finances shortly after being married. Strike one!

That knowledge already in the hopper she signed onto fraudulent loan documents. Strike two!!

She simultaneously goes heavy into debt on CC's...not just one or two but a whole boatload to the tune of $185K+. Strike three!!!

She knew as soon as she got married she had a lying snake on her hands and chose at the very least to turn a blind eye to it. You don't get to ride the Gravy Train and then get off right before the Conductor comes for the ticket.

I hope she gets whacked for no other reason than to teach her a lesson about personal finances. I can't say whether she was as involved as Snowflake, but she was involved. The only way I'd be willing to absolve her would be if Snowflake made some deal with LE to pay up all his debt in return for her amnesty. But SerCasey would have to Cowboy Up to do something like that, and we all KNOW that ain't happening.

lurker said...

Galina was in it at the start. Whether it was niavity, religious upbringing, or greed; doesn't really matter.

She dropped out rather quickly, but continued to live on the borrowed money. She has more sense than Casey (not that thats hard), but was in denial and willing to let Casey b******t her. One of the reasons she allowed the bull to continue was she was getting a free ride.

When the free ride stopped and she had to get a job, the boom came down on Casey,

When charges are filed, she will be included in the charges. If she presents a sympathetic figure, the DA may allow her to turn states evidence for probation or a light sentence.

Legion said...

@ Flailing
"Still wouldn't help. Her hideousness can penetrate lead."


Nothing that a little bit of mind bleach couldn't fix. Though my dick probably wouldn't talk to me for years.

Sharky said...

Look, gang;

All the pop-psych mumbo-jumbo regarding G's motivations or lack thereof mean doodly-squat if her signature is on the doted line, doesn't it?

At a certain point, you have to take people at face value, she's free, white and over 21 years of age.

She's responsible for anything she may have signed, unless a court formally finds her to have had "diminished capacity" in some way.

That may turn out to be the case, but she will be the one to have to initiate such an "I'm not a crook, I'm a nut!" action.

She might have a case, one qoggles that while they owned eight homes, they weren't living in ANY of them.

In my biz, up until 20 or 30 years ago, it wasn't uncommon to see a man make his mark on a document.

It wasn't that they were stupid,(far from it), just that they were illiterate...never learned the skill of reading and writing.

The written document was distrusted as a result.

Deals, for thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars, were concluded over a handshake...no lawyers, no notaries, no papers.

Your word was your bond. If you broke that word, you would find yourself ostracized by the entire industry in a fairly short time.

The Serins have never learned, or honored, one of the fundamentals of any business...you DO what you AGREED to do.

LossMitPro said...

Anon @ 10:59 AM:
What does this mean? ADR to me means Alternative Dispute Resolution? My WESTLAW search reveals only one portion of the California Code referencing "ADR ACT" (and that is the insurance Code) and no California cases that reference that term ‘ADR ACT’.”


You’re correct; ADR does stand for Alternative Dispute Resolution. The ADR Programs Act was engaged around 1992, and was the former basis for certifying state authorized mediators back in the day (now coming under control of the State Bar, methinks). I’m grandfathered in, regardless, having been certified circa 1994.

My behavioral studies were done via UCLA extension (Go Bruins!) and at the time were not state required, but I studied as a means of increased professional competency. My ADR Specialty is (wouldn’t ya know it given my asset recovery background) debt, with particular emphasis on mortgages.

As you may well imagine, solving legal disputes entails many physiological aspects to help the parties realize and understand their positions and corresponding resolution avenues. It boils down to what some might call touchy-feely processes, in the course and scope of dealing with conflict.

Jus Askin @ 11:09 AM:
”Would everyone be so sympathetic towards Galina if she was fat and ugly?


When dealing with Galina I was considering behaviors, not beauty. When one approaches such things remaining clinical it is not hard to achieve objectivity, even with someone as stunning as Galina. Good looks cannot hide telling behaviors.

Anon @ 11:14 AM:
”Mark...just out of curiousity, how did they act a couple? Cold? PDAs? (pulic displays of affection). How does casey, through body language and verbal, treat his wife? As an equal? Superior? Inferior? If you could chooce one word to describe how they are together, what would it be?”


If I had to choose one word to describe Casey’s attitude toward Galina, during our meeting that would be LOVE. Minor PDA’s here and there but nothing indignant, over the top. Having said that, and based on extensive conversations with Casey, I’d also add that in my opinion he takes her for granted -- to extremes!

Anon @ 11:18 AM:
”Mark could be a plant, too, sent here to dupe us and fool us.


LOL! That’s too funny. I mean, come on, talk about conspiracy theories? Seriously, that is funny!!! (Nonetheless, believe what you want.)

flailing forward @ 11:23 AM:
”If she is such a stand-up gal, why isn't she working on paying back her half of the debt?


Well, this “gal” is the one scrubbing other people’s toilets to help make ends meet. If true (and I have no reason to believe it isn’t) that to me demonstrates not a sense of entitlement, but obligation. People with “entitlement frames” (a mindset of I’m better than you and deserve more/better), don’t generally stoop to such levels when they’ve had better.

Moreover, the same applies to folks whom lack a sense of responsibility and societal-gratitude/appreciation. Hey I could be wrong, as I can only base opinions on the best available information at hand.

~Mark

Soem Dood said...

@ flailing:

"...public records on Sacramento County's website... show that she was originally on the titles but Casey had them transferred into only his name. He said this was done at her behest."

Hmmm. I guess this could be just 'a technicality'. OR, a more sinister read could be "guilty knowledge."

Something tells me a court will eventually need to sort out the whole deal, and that given three years of marriage to Casey, while living on credit, and no other visible means of support (recently helping a family member with some vacuuming, aside) it seems far beyond credulity that she was not knowing and complicit.

But that's just me saying.

BJ said...

@Anon
I see her as at a minimum being emotionally abused by Casey. I've no doubt that if he wanted something from her he would browbeat her until he got it. I really hope those contracts she had him sign are a prelude to divorcing him. His words indicate he has no respect for her and I hope she realizes that.

It almost reads as a prelude. It was interesting the number of co-signers on that letter. I suspect one of them may have been their priest... and then Fliptard™ tried to say that it was per month not per week! after signing that in front of all those people.

@Legion
Galina must have read the blog and EN by now, she must realize that he is a crook. If she was so innocent, she would have just turned him in already.

I would not be surprised if she has, or Yulia has.. As for why she has not turned him in, religion (oldest form of mind control), not wanting to be a 'rat', worried about what will happen to her (many people on this blog feel she should take the same penalty as Fliptard™, so why risk 'self injury' by ratting oneself out.). That is why I want her to see the way out.. and am willing to cut her a bit of slack on this..
I mentioned earlier, indirectly to Galina, to see a Divorce attorney that also has a background with criminal law and bankruptcy law. This way she can get the straight scoop instead of the Casey RealityDistortionField™. He may be telling her that she is going to get the full penalty, just to keep her quiet.

Legion said...

@Lossmitpro

Jus Askin @ 11:09 AM:
”Would everyone be so sympathetic towards Galina if she was fat and ugly?

"When dealing with Galina I was considering behaviors, not beauty. When one approaches such things remaining clinical it is not hard to achieve objectivity, even with someone as stunning as Galina."


The fact that you are saying she is "stunning" means you ahve lost all objectivity in this case. Personally, if I was married and you repeatedly fawned over my wife like you have here regarding Galina, I wouldn't let your grubby paws within 50 yards of her. I'd be afraid that the "probono" work that you offered would have 'strings' attached. Frankly, for a lawyer, you are acting kind of unprofessional..if that's even possible for a lawyer. Do you always fawn over your clients wives?

Bud Dwyer said...

Galina is hardly what I'd call "stunning". She's not all that. She has an average face and while having somewhat of a shape, I'd guess it doesn't look so good without clothes.

Anonymous said...

Public records show Galina involvment - no question there. She is guilty of loand fraud.

Anyone suggesting otherwise must be Galina's relatives or friends.

I am personally neither for or against Gallina. I am however for the facts and the public records cannot be disputed.

Soem Dood said...

@ LMP: "Good looks cannot hide telling behaviors."
*****************************

I dunno... maybe no one ever heard of Karla Homolka, but she seemed to pull it off for a long time, and seems to me to be plenty evil once unmasked:

http://tinyurl.com/a4rc3

BJ said...

@Arthur Wankspittle

I can't see the law enforcement scenario as you paint it. G's counsel would surely go for a deal where she stays out of jail but admits the technicality of signing some docs.

Depends on whether they are still married. Casey could not point the finger at Galina as the sole cause, but he could cut a deal for turning states evidence.. resulting in the same sentence for both but his time is reduced for turning states evidence. It could also have him charged with a lesser offense as part of the plea bargain for turning states evidence.

taddyangle said...

I emailed KC over 24 hours ago expressing my interest in advertising. I sent him my link,as well.

Still no response. WTF, KC still needs $650 to make his weekly nut, and the guy does not repsond.

I would have responded ASAP, he must have another sweet deal in the works. Perhaps a book deal, or a movie deal, or some other maybe the venture capitalist called him up and want to fund his business.

Legion said...

@ LMP: "Good looks cannot hide telling behaviors."
*****************************

I dunno... maybe no one ever heard of Karla Homolka, but she seemed to pull it off for a long time, and seems to me to be plenty evil once unmasked:


Don't forget Mata Hari...she used her sexuality quite well to pull one over men's eyes.

Legion said...

@taddy, you realize he reads this board right?

Sszark said...

Several people above have wondered why she didn't complete school in the years since she got married.

Consider that Mr "Education is for Chumps" might have had a little something to do with it.

There are a lot of ways to subtly undermine a spouse who's attending school. You can invent obligations that conflict with her class schedule. You can decide at the last minute that you don't have enough money for tuition. You can talk about her degree as an indulgence that you're letting her have just to humor her (because you intend that she will stay home while you support the family). You can constantly bring up that Kiyosaki et al think that college is preparing her to be a mindless corporate drone. You can take away the transportation she needs to get there. You can get incredibly jealous over the time she spends on homework and group projects.

I've known women who have dropped out for a semester or two, precisely because of this sort of "support" from their boyfriends and husbands. Some figured out what was going on, ditched the SO, and went back. Others kept delaying their return, semester after semester, to keep the peace at home.

So which outcome is more likely for a relatively sheltered, devout, 20-year-old Baptist? Especially one whose parents have made it clear that she can't rely on them for financial support any more?

Soem Dood said...

@Legion

"...she can get the straight scoop instead of the Casey RealityDistortionField™."


*************************
Hmmm.....

Anonymous said...

LossMitPro:

So you can observe their demeanor and behavior and draw conclusions and inferences from that, correct, as a mediator or an arbitrator?

mejustme said...

I agree with Bud Dwyer. I wouldn't call her stunning. Just nice looking. Not like she could be a model or anything.

007 said...

@Mark

Sense of "obligation"??? You can't be serious, can you???

If Galina had an ounce of this sense of obligation she would have never gotten into this mess in the first place. There wasn't a chance in hell of being able to pay off that money given their (at the time) financial situation.

Secondly, she'd have been working her a$$ off to pay back the money the she so flippantly borrowed in the first place. She'd be working a real W-2 job pronto!

She may be stooopid, lovestruck, submissive, not financially savvy or any other one of a hundred things. But possessing a sense of obligation....NOT!!!

BJ said...

@007
Secondly, she'd have been working her a$$ off to pay back the money the she so flippantly borrowed in the first place. She'd be working a real W-2 job pronto!

With what credentials? High School diploma? That doesn't buy you much. Fliptard™'s credit bust means she can't even be a teller an a bank, checker in a department store/grocery store.

The Original Kevin™ said...

Of COURSE she was involved - there are pics of her doing inspections & Casey commented on them & indicated she WAS involved. Anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant, stupid, Galina, or a troll.

And any argument for ingorance on her part doesn't cut it - legally, she is involved, as well, whether she 'knew' something was illegal or not.

007 said...

@BJ

So what you are suggesting is that she should never work at all?

How about working and going to night school, like people do all the time to get ahead.

What do you think is going to happen when you start living WAAAAAAY beyond your means?

Akubi said...

From Wikipedia:
Psychological/emotional violence involves violence to the victim caused by acts, threats of acts, or coercive tactics. Psychological/emotional abuse can include, but is not limited to, humiliating the victim, controlling what the victim can and cannot do, withholding information from the victim, deliberately doing something to make the victim feel diminished or embarrassed, isolating the victim from friends and family, and denying the victim access to money or other basic resources. It is considered psychological/emotional violence when there has been prior physical or sexual violence or prior threat of physical or sexual violence. Perpetrators of this form of domestic aggression can be both users and abusers... both female and male

Sound familiar?

BJ said...

@007
So what you are suggesting is that she should never work at all?

How do you get that from my statement? She is doing housecleaning, which is just about all that she can do for a 'real job' right now.

LossMitPro said...

Legion @ 12:17 AM:
”The fact that you are saying she is "stunning" means you ahve lost all objectivity in this case.”


Honest to gosh, some of you EN folk really crack me up! (Seriously, I’m in my office laughing to the extent my staff is beginning to think I’ve lost it.) What did I disclose via my initial post within this thread? LOL... Too funny.

”I'd be afraid that the ‘probono’ work that you offered would have 'strings' attached. Frankly, for a lawyer, you are acting kind of unprofessional..if that's even possible for a lawyer. Do you always fawn over your clients wives?

Wow, lighten up... You’re ASSUMING I’m a lawyer, you’re ASSUMING I am acting unprofessional, and you’re ASSUMING I ‘fawned’ over Galina when we met. Get the facts straight, before popping off as if you’re on to something?

Regardless, I enjoyed your revelations -- humorous as they are. So please don’t take anymore offense then you apparently already have. :)

I’m gathering that some of you are also ASSUMING I’m here to defend Galina. Not the case, I simply gave my take based on observations and information I am privy to. You good people use that as you will, God knows some of you will distort and conclude inaccurately anyway.

...Hey, who am I to stop you?

~Mark

Anonymous said...

"for a relatively sheltered, devout, 20-year-old Baptist?"

You know this how?

Anonymous said...

Well,

Prosecutors and judges go by just the facts and the facts are that Gallina Serin appears on various legal federal loan documentation.

The "federal" part is ugly legal aspect of all of this - the feds can hit Galina from several different legal points.

Galina is in hot waters!

BJ said...

@007

With Casey and is SweetNaps™, I wouldn't be surprised if Galina may be doing more than 8 hour days. I do think she should resume her education though. Her options for jobs right now, are pretty dismal. She should have stuck to her guns when Casey and his RealityDistortionField™ were saying that college education is just for loosers™.

I think that Kiyosucki's comment to the effect that are a winner by failing should have clued her in.. though I do think that a concept like that fits perfectly in the Casey RealityDistortionField™.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Galina's involvement (or lack thereof)-
As a former member of a fundamentalist Christian group (and wife of a former fundie husband), I think it's important to remember that you have to either judge Galina as a Christian wife/woman, or just a woman. You can't judge her both ways.

I can recall many times where I ended up agreeing to things my husband wanted (like where to go to church) because I felt like I *had* to. We ended up resolving that issue (largely by removing ourself from the bad fundie influences).

If Galina has chosen to filter everything through a conservative Christian worldview, then that's how she should be judged. From that perspective, from what we know, she's been taken for quite a ride by Casey and is now doing everything she can to remedy the situation or (apparently) extract herself from it.

I realize that the Christian worldview is not a legal perspective. I'm just saying that I don't think it's fair to criticize Galina in one breath for not doing the "Christian" thing, and then criticize her in the next for not doing what any reasonable woman would have done.

I'm not saying I buy into all of that Christian view of marriage crap, I'm just sayin'. :)

By the way, when do we get Duane updates? I'm going nuts waiting! :)

Oh, and I'm counting down the days until Friday...I want to call and offer Casey $100 to submit to psychiatric evaluation on his next talkcast.

Jefe said...

Hey Taddy--let us know how Snowflake responds. I've enjoyed your posts over at SDCIA, glad to have you join the crowd at Ex Uber Nation.

BJ said...

@Anon
"for a relatively sheltered, devout, 20-year-old Baptist?"

You know this how?


Please keep up!! try reading previous posts before reiterating a previously covered statement.

@Anon
The "federal" part is ugly legal aspect of all of this - the feds can hit Galina from several different legal points.

Galina is in hot waters!


Yes.. I don't think she quite realizes the extent/size of the ocean of hot water she is about to fall into. I think she is slowly starting to realize.. but vision is still clouded.

Sszark said...

"for a relatively sheltered, devout, 20-year-old Baptist?"

You know this how?


The CNET article says:

One wildcard in the Casey Serin saga is his wife, Galina, who met him through church social groups and married him when she was 20 years old. Both are Baptists and Slavic immigrants... [A]ccording to her own religious views, Galina said, "there are only two reasons for a divorce: adultery and physical abuse."

Anonymous said...

Galina is hardly sheltered in the sense portrayed above. Girls like her are commonplace. Lazy, unmotivated, self-entitled. They dabble at a job. They dabble at an education. But largely they accomplish nothing.

Galina has been an adult for 6 years now. What is her work history? How many credits has she obtained? 6 years. What has she done?

I work in an office full of girls just like Galina. They are consumers, not producers. They know they're lazy but as long as they can be entertained, they don't care. All of them are irresponsible and have bad credit. None of them care until it blows up in their face and most of them will not change after that happens. Girls like G are dime-a-dozen.

Anonymous said...

When Galina Serin has to bend over naked and spread open in front of corrections officers on a regular basis, it will hit her.

It's only a matter of time, but she is going down or will have to go down on some to survive.

Anonymous said...

"Galina, who met him through church social groups"


I miss those times. Lots of good weed and willing girls.

Anonymous said...

Interesting thread

Is G Tammy Faye Baker (same excuse)?

Is G hosed because of her overbearing meathead old man?

A couple things:
1. Being a holy roller, there is a better chance she trusts the guy too much. Look how many grown adults gave Jim Baker thousands and they saw how that turd lived. She is too young to know better. Does not take much to manipulate such person.
A couple years ago, a clown named Bieot got caught scamming $18M from investors in New England. The wife looked like a fool as she was the Suzy Orman of Boston (had her own time slot on TV every day to help with financial problems). Never questioned the husband about what went down.

2. Love is blind. Man, I can remember this LOSER my little sister married, we could not believe an educated young woman with a job in electronic sales to computer companies would talk, never mind marry to a lazy low life (we called him the diesel weasel). Took us several months to get her to get an annulment, but only after he knocked up some teenager.
aka Misery loves company.

3. Sounds like G's family is not the brightest bulbs on the tree, as it took months for Y to put her foot down. Maybe being off the boat they don't know how it works in the "land of gold".

My gut says G knew things were amiss, but juiceboi kept telling her he had it under control. As long as he had money, it was all good. Then there was the leave from school & she started to wake up.

I say don't procecute. Just make her pay back her side of the debt. 28K can be done over 2 years.

Casey needs to go to jail for 20 years. And he will know where the chow came from. It is written just above to the right on the inmate's shirt.

The Dude said...

anono12:59.....1. Being a holy roller, there is a better chance she trusts the guy too much.

Holy Roller does not equal Baptist. Holy Rollers are charismatic; hence the name.

Property Flopper said...

LossMitPro -

You state that Galina scrubbing toilets somehow gives her credibility. No, she is doing that out of desperation. WHY HASN'T SHE HAD A JOB FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS?

Deep in debt, she continued to live off the credit and is only now working when there is no more. I don't see that as a positive.

LEGION -
LossMitPro is NOT an attorney, he states he does dispute mediation. This field is now coming under the CA Bar, but he is grandfathered in. An attorney would look at facts, not impressions (especially "stunning"). I gave him credit up to that point, with that statement, he showed his bias. I don't doubt he met them and his impressons may be correct, but he certainly has an agenda in all this.

007 said...

@BJ

I got that from your statment because you seemed to be at odds with my assertion that she should get a W-2 job. She is going to have to start somewhere, and the sooner the better for her sake. She needs a W-2 job to establish a work history, build references and provide herself with a stable income.

If cleaning houses for friends and relatives was a stable thriving means of employment more people would be doing it.

Besides, I don't believe for a second that Galina is out there busting her hump doing housecleaning. Call me cynical, but neither her or Snowflake seem the type to knuckle down and really work for an extended period of time.

I'm sorry if I misconstrued your meaning. My statement was made within the context of a W-2 job.

Jefe said...

Anon at 12:59PM--You wouldn't be referring to The Diesel Weasel would you? He's an Internet toughguy legend who's a wannabe powerlifter from Queens. He goes by the handle Diesel Weasel. He's the laughingstock of many weightlifting websites.

Dumbfounded said...

@ 11:48 AM, Anonymous said...
What can we reliably treat as true?
Her names are on the deeds.


Just so you know...if G's name is on the deeds, then her name has to appear on the mortgage too.

Anonymous said...

1.06

No this Diesel Weasel was prior to the internet.

He had a dream of becoming rich driving a snow plow (it had a noisy diesel engine). Hence the moniker.

There are idiots born every minute, and women crazy enough to believe their bs dreams...

Anonymous said...

LossMitPro is either a TROLL or Casey trying to do damage control at home.

And will someone but a clock on www.caseypedia.com like Casey has @ IAFF.

And how do we get bets going to see if:
1. Casey shuts off the blog
2. How long he last until its back on...

Alan Smithee/gt said...

@ mejustme 11:54 Excellent points; I mean, what I meant exactly. :)

@ sszark 12:25 ditto

Akubi- Yeah, which is why it's so screwed up that she hasn't left.
(If the abuse alleged is sufficient enough maybe an abused feels he or she can't leave; although I find that argument troubling and unlikely many instances, especially this one)

...And their church/religious beliefs; particularly their clergy/counselor, so loath to advocate/condone divorce??
Not helping.

Anon 12:49,
From a conservative "fundi" family myself, (happily un-programmed) I understand where you are coming from. Basically that by supporting/submitting to the husband she is a "good wife" and by that yardstick, she and her family and peers may believe that she is a good Christian (read: Baptist fundie)woman behaving as she should.

However, I do strenuously disagree with what sounded like a suggestion that a (her) fundamentalist Christian worldview is the one through which she "should" be judged; that this should be our normitive yardstick.

It is hers, and that of her peers, and while we should be cognizant of it, we do not and should not be required to view her circumstances and behavior solely through her own definition of success or "goodness".

As so painfully obvious in the entire SerinSaga, there are very different views on what defines "success".

...and finally, Dude, right you are. "Holy Rollers" are charismatic/Pentecostals, and do not equal Baptists.

I'm sure I left my primer on the diversity of evangelical groups and denominations around here somewhere...**shuffles papers in cube**....

lurker said...

Pushing stunning submissive wives? I think LossMittPro is an investor on Casey's new project

Mail Order Russian Wives

Akubi said...

Alan Smithee/gt,
Good point in the parentheses: (Still, conversely, you can bet that a conservative Muslim wife would have no respect for me or my values either).

I haven’t said the most flattering things about G either, but I’m a bit more tolerant of her now that she’s working and standing up for herself. If I spent the day cleaning toilets and came home to Casey pulling the same old BS I’d wring his scrawny neck or at least ask Stephanie J to pay him a visit. G, however, is clearly working with a different set of cards all together.

Lost Cause said...

I am sure that in a community property state, those debts are equally hers as well. As far as criminal liability, I am not sure, but there have been plenty of husband and wife pair sent to prison. I am sure they could pin something on her, while Casey cops a plea, to keep her out of jail.

LossMitPro said...

Property Flopper @ 1:03 PM:
”An attorney would look at facts, not impressions (especially "stunning"). I gave him [LossMitPro] credit up to that point, with that statement, he showed his bias. I don't doubt he met them and his impressons may be correct, but he certainly has an agenda in all this.”


Really, well pray-tell, what “agenda” might that be? (Other than a desire for reasonably calculated truths to be discussed through this dialogue?) What would I possibly have to gain or lose by imparting the information I have?

As to lawyers not operating on “impressions?” You’ve clearly never heard nor had to contend with the many Doctrines law that operate on presumption, yes, impressions. But that’s besides the point.

In any case, please, go for it! What “agenda” might I be promoting here???

Anon @ 1:14 PM:
LossMitPro is either a TROLL or Casey trying to do damage control at home.


See above, Inspector Clouseau. :)

~Mark

Soem Dood said...

@ 1:14 PM, Anonymous said...

"LossMitPro is either a TROLL or Casey trying to do damage control at home."
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Easy there, Mr. Anonymous tough guy. Usually, those who ID themselves with handles, and then stick around to answer questions, show respect to other's answers even when disagreeing, ad information to the dialog under discussion, etc. are NOT considered trolls.

I certainly do not consider LossMitPro a troll by any stretch of imagination.

I think he is what he appears -- a person who has had contact with C&G, and has some similar impressions to those of us who only 'kinow' Casey from the 'net, and he also has some different ones, though.

Even as stubborn as I am, I have to give him some credence, while of course keeping an eye out for bias/self-interest. What else is new? Everyone seems to have an axe to grind.

What's yours? [chuckle]

Anonymous said...

Casey Serin will beat Galina Serin 7 times to Sunday in making a quick deal with the prosecutions.

Galina Serin better start getting used to bending over with ler legs wide open in front of correctional officers waiting for them to give the ok to bend back up.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:18 AM:
”Mark could be a plant, too, sent here to dupe us and fool us.

LOL! That’s too funny. I mean, come on, talk about conspiracy theories? Seriously, that is funny!!! (Nonetheless, believe what you want.)


@Mark

It was'nt meant as an attack, just stating that on the internet, people may not always be what they seem. ANY of us could be a ringer, or Nigel preteneding not to be, or even Galina.

The *ultimate* con job, one I would stand up and applaud vigorously, is if Stephanie J were Galina.

I believe Duane, as we know his real name, where he works, and can pick up a phone and call him if need be - all we have on you is what you tell us.

Not an accusation, just an observation. So far, I have no reason to believe you're lying at all - nor do you have any reason to expose your identity.

People get very worked up when it comes to shithead...and they should be careful. That's all I'm saying. I made a *concious* decision to stop getting emotional at all about it anymore, and just enjoy the humor here and the dimestore psychology we indulge in as an amusement.

And I'll clarify something - we don't anything about Galina except what he's told us, and that can mean she's innocent...or completely guilty...or any point in between. I havent chosen a camp, I just have my suspicions, and I could be completely wrong.

Hell, I though they were priming AJ to be Tony's new protoge on the Sopranos, BOY did last night's episode prove me wrong!

Mozatta said...

Does anyone else feel cheated by Dawg today? Only 1 chance of trying to be first/murst/etc.

Dawg, did we do something wrong? Are you mad? Please allow us to boost our egos by giving us the opportunity to stamp our firstness on a fresh post.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully Dawg is getting the next Duane post ready...hint hint...

dm said...

jeez, you people are talking too fast for me to keep up. have to be a speed reader to keep up around here.

off topic: the flake is up to $682.95 for the week.

Mortgage Fraud Investigator said...

Murst, there is no way LossMit Pro is Casey. LossMit Pro is far more articulate. I do have a problem with him touting himself as some sort of all knowing pro. This is the same guy that seems to think that corporations can file criminal charges????

R-Boy said...

who the hell paid casey 75 dollars an hour for blog consulting

007 said...

@LossMitPro

Reading your earlier, and what I would classify as generally positive evaluation of Galina, this statement struck me:

"Regarding her credit card involvement? This too is a non-issue to prove any conspiratorial acts or duplicity. Galina’s personality type is to generally go-with-the-flow where her husband is concerned, resisting only when she fully understands the gravity and consequences of an issue."

Just where along the road to the destination of $185K CC debt should the "gravity" have hit her? I would have been REALLY concerned around the $5K mark, but that's just me. I'm curious as to where you think this poised, deliberate, well mannered, rational, purposeful, sincere (all your adjectives) "lady" should have become aware of the gravity of her debt situation?

Should it have been $10K..$25K, just where should the alarm bells have gone off?

Sprezzatura said...

Just a comment to those upthread who were saying that Galin is completely incapable of getting any kind of job involving money -- have you worked in the retail business at all? The vast majoirty of retail shops do not do any kind of credit check when they hire new entry-level staff. Not even the big chains. It's just not cost-effective.

Galina could pick her favorite mall, spend a day collecting, filling out, and submitting applications, and unless her English were abysmal she could have a job that week if not that day. If she showed up on time, did her job well, got along with her co-workers, and showed some interest in the business, inside of a year she could work her way into low-level management, and from thence up the ladder. If she kept at it, within a few years she could be making $30-$45K per annum as a store manager, all without ever having to pass a credit check.

Now, I agree that's hardly big bucks, but it's a respctable income for a high-school graduate, and retail is a career that is in no danger of being outsourced to China. There are many worse ways to make a living.

Sharky said...

Anon 1:10:

"He had a dream of becoming rich driving a snow plow (it had a noisy diesel engine). Hence the moniker."

I know guys who do that. It's not a bad gig if you don't mind the hours and driving in snowstorms.

Figure 20 bucks for the average driveway which can be scraped in 10-15 minutes, tops.

50 bucks for anything 50-100 feet long.

All cash, no taxes, in a good snowy winter, that adds up...not a bad payoff for a used 4x4 and a plow.

Then there's the contract work for the parking lot owners.

Nice way to subsidize a Carribean cruise.

flailing forward said...

This thread is on fire!

I don't hate Galina or want to see her in jail, but neither do I want to see her skate away from this without repercussions. If Casey had actually made money (ha, maybe in an alternate universe), and then they got divorced, she would be entitled to half of the money. Why should it be any different with debt? If you're a partner in a company, the other partner does some shady stuff, and you sign off on it, are you not equally as liable?

Also, on Earth Mission there are numerous instances of Casey describing them fighting. That undermines the "poor, meek, subservient Galina" arguments. And Casey "Wake Me Up In Time For My Nap" Serin himself complained about her sitting around all day and not getting anything done.

For the record, Galina is kind of hot, but nowhere near as hottt as the EN ladiez.

El Gabo Gringo said...

- Galina is very cross-eyed. Not trying to be mean... she just is.

- I don't really care about her. I used to think she was a victim. Now I'm not sure, so I choose to be apathetic.

- However I'm VERY sure in my opinion of KC and I do want to see him fried and I want him to blog it all for our pleasure.

Sharky said...

Jeebus!

All the "She's HOT! she's NOT!" talk.

Look, chances are you're not gonna fuck her, so give it a rest.

She's reasonably attractive, although I imagine she's almost a midget, if she's shorter than Fliptard.

So unless you're "into" the hobbit-freak, is it relevant?

I can tell that some of youse didn't have the bestest of weekends.

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