Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Friday, July 06, 2007
Words From Our Friends
Sometimes a propaganda 'cast is just what we need. Use this to follow along. 'Cast here. Update: Casey during his fraudcast.
CHJTS, the talkcast link apparently died because you had it set up for "12:00 AM Eastern" and then didn't show (since you re-scheduled it for 1:00 AM Eastern). You may have to start a new show.
Duane and LMP.. something that's been in my craw since the end of tonight's FC. This whole "they want to fuck Galina" thing.
I don't blame you for outrage; I'd be the exact same way. Just understand what he's doing. He needs a narrative, one that a) explains why Galina's locked him out, b) leaves the possibility that Galina might take him back in, and c) doesn't immediately cast him in a bad light among primary players. I really got the sense tonight that he's working the kinks out of this particular story line. I've seen this done before.
If I were you guys, I'd expect this new narrative to go long term. Take that for whatever you want, but it's just the kind of thing Casey needs to believe at this point - hence, he will. Give it another week, and his story will be that you guys conspired from day one to ruin him and steal his wife.
Almost done with the fraudcast. Lordy, you know it had to suck to be the waitron responsible for Casey's table. Hours drinking water & 1 foccacia AND a fraudcast admitting he has no place to live. THAT was gonna be a nice tip on the table, huh?
So what does Pink Lips think Casey's going to do with any money she gives him? Pay off some of his massive debts? Because that would be the Christian thing to do, right? Ha!!!
Folks, this whole story is so much better than anything on the TV. I'm an addict and I'm not ashamed to say it.
@Fly Me and my friends snuck into Up In Smoke when we were in 8th grade, and we got a hold of one of their albums and memorized it. I've been a HUGE fan ever since, I have most of their albums and movies.
I remember when "The Three Little Pigs" was on the radio. Does that date me?
The new Casey photo from tonight: That's just creepy. The doo is not hip, it's just greasy and bummy. I'm pretty far from George Wallace circa 1971, but GET A DAMN HAIRCUT.
Mark - don't you think it is strange to talk to Casey for five hours? And say it was very productive? You talked spirituality with Casey Serin for FIVE HOURS!????
Seriously I am all for Casey being brought down under any means necessary but to continue to act as if its some national security secret that you cant answer in regard to naming Mocha in the lawsuit is just ridiculous and eats away at any credibility we were giving you.
If it was a dumb idea initially or a knee jerk reaction to the fact that she wont stop linking to you or mentioning you in the comments section on IAFF then just fucking say so!
Good to see that T and Annie are still up and on board. Any other of the women of EN? Give me a few minutes to compose my thoughts and report on my chat with KC after tonight's Fraudcast. I have needed the last few hours to decompress. Instead of a shower I needed to soak up the honest, genuine, morally upright, realistic authenticity of my real live DH. Shared a good conversation and a the benefits of his highly evolved bartending skills. More soon.
Does any one else get mad when posters say, "I think Galina must be as guilty as Casey because she:
chose one - signed the paperwork - spent the money - went to (Utah/Hawaii/NRU/Modesto).
I have no idea if she is guilty. I do know for an absolute certainty has acted just like a newly married young person who wants to travel and be with her newly minted husband. It ain't a smokin' gun.
And, no, I don't think most of those who post like that are trolls. They just need to get out more often.
If you are going to speculate, at least use some evidence that is not so easily explained away by human nature.
Casey will throw anyone under the bus. Asking for the whys behind the lawsuit could cause Casey to try and cover his tracks by throwing more people under the bus.
@At 10:51 PM, T said... Endgame's an equal-opportunity hater.
Yes'm - that would be correct. I now take any opportunity to hate on the worthless little POS. The little bastard has MAJOR issues with women. I have a daughter G's age. If he were my son-in-law....
Ok, feel free to delete this comment for the sake of G not seeing it because I am well aware of the fact that if she feels people are against her here she will not share information or allow any to be shared. I also recognize the very real possibility that some here refuse to speak honestly in regard to her responsibility because of that....
HOWEVER, just because Casey didnt open the mail, or he hid it from her is ridiculous. She signed papers and whether it was just technically for Casey or not she still has a legal responsibility for that! Same with the IRS, it doesnt matter if you had no idea your husband was fraudulently claiming a refund of $10 million, if you sign it you cannot use the "I didnt know" defense. YOU SHOULDVE KNOWN, OR CHECKED IT OVER. And how can you miss that? NO closing service, or notary is going to say just sign here without going over EVERY page!
How about the fact that she is an "accounting major" in college?
Oh, don't get me wrong. She should have known. If my spouse got me on the hook for $2.2MM, I'd sure want to know about it. I'd want a game plan, and not some multicolored crap scribbled on a whiteboard.
What X Who X When X How much.
If the simple math works, do the hard math. If that works, expect 30 to 50% overruns and run the numbers again. (I'm sure Casey was much more rigorous in his Biz Plan than this). Over time you can shorthand a lot of this. But not in the first 8 months
But Casey is slick and charming (well, he wasn't slick tonight...), and G was in love. We tend to overlook lots of stuff when we are in love. I will also bet that she WANTED to believe. 23 and married to a businessman who is on his way?
I also think that Casey hid stuff from her when things started to go wrong. "It's all good, honey" "Living in Yulia's house is just a temporary setback. We will bne out in a couple of months."
IMO, it all adds up to: she should have known, but did no want to. This makes her none to diligent, but it does not make her Casey.
The 'Guilty Galina Hatin' Crew' were certain that G and Casey's mom would welcome him back with open arms. Not the case, eh? Probably the G in jail and G as guilty as Casey will be equally successful.
You just said Casey was playing you for a chump, Mark and owed you money. But you spent FIVE hours on the phone with him just a couple of weeks ago????
No, I am not hating Galena. Nor am i saying she is as guilty as Casey. I agree she probably did not want to know, wasnt too concerned about it, blinded by love and on & on. That still doesnt not exempt her from some responsibility.
His response was that Casey played him for a chump and owed him lots of money. I don't think Mark is doing this out of the goodness of his heart for the people of CA.
There is a VERY big gap between being legally responsible and just as guilty as Casey.
I don't think that anyone her does not think G is somehow not responsible for the debt.....That would be just plain stupid, and I mean really, casey-type stupid.
But since October or November G has been getting more and more vehement about CS taking care of his business. I'll bet she even egged his dreams on and pushed him to become a success. That makes her further responsible. But se's nowhere as guilty as our young crook Casey.
Re: Casey being served--too bad Michael couldn't have handed it to him during the fraudcast earlier. How friggin' hilarious would THAT have been? "Uh...OK..that kinda sucks."
Yeah, CSL. This Mark lawsuit is so ill-defined, probably by design. I don't think Mark is a hero. But I do think that he has every right to do what he's doing. I support him because stopping Casey is important.
Mark is a park ranger Mark is a lawyer Mark is not a lawyer Mark in a compulsive gambler Mark is a podiatrist Mark is a dental technician Mark is a lap dancer Mark is an unemployed ruglicker Mark is the reincarnation of a butterfly Mark is the embodiment of all that is mediocre and bland in this world Mark the next president of the US
WHO CARES!
Mark is a thorn in Casey's side. Period. That's all that matters.
Johnny B Goode, I'll give you that Galina could have been young and in love. Terrific. Should'nt we Casey the same 'out'? Of course not. If she signed her name on multiple documents putting her on title to multiple houses, she participated in fraud.
It seems very cut and dry to me. I don't really buy into her being young and in love. Repeatedly throughout our history, courts have not looked too favorably on that defense either. I also don't buy into Casey being some Svengali working some sort of magical spell over her.
I believe Casey knew very well what he was doing and hoped that appreciation would overcome any of his mistakes. Galina got caught up in the lifestyle and assisted without asking any questions.
Not every choice we make in life is always an easy one to make. But avoidance of making the right choice does not absolve one of the potential downside consequences.
Mark is also going to be a huge thorn in Galin's side when she in involved in this lawsuit, her family's side when she faces charges and of course Casey's family. This lawsuit is a result of someone being pissed off - it was not thought out and will have far reaching implications. Mark iniially wanted to have Casey negotiate with him and drop the whole thing. Now it is a matter of pride that will have a lot of victims. I didn't realize till tonight just how by the seat of his pants Mark acted in filing this.
A relaationship that involved a five hour conversation just a couple of weeks ago - a lawsuit threatened just several days later with an ultimatum that wasn't met - what wsa the ultimatum I wonder? Pride that forced the suit to be filed and now anger in defending himself in filing it,,,..maybe because he never expected it to go this far??
Mark is probably hoping to get a judgment from Marty, not Casey. That would make more sense when he says it is about getting money but not wanting to hurt Casey.
Here is what I have to say after meeting KC in person.
He's exactly what I expected.
All of his mannerisms and responses were as described by others and heard before.
He is impervious to criticism, advice, logic, humiliation, anger, rejection, failure.
Michael bought him a beer and the three of us sat at a table chatting until I couldn't take any more.
The only moment KC became animated was when I asked him what he got out of the attention he seemed to crave. He lit up and described his excitement at getting media exposure. When I first asked the question, he responded with a question - what's wrong with it? I told him it wasn't critical - I honestly don't understand the desire for public attention, particularly when so much of it is humiliating or critical, and wanted to know the emotional charge he got from it. He smiled and sat up and gestured and opened his eyes describing his response to a media interview. It was apparent there was a thrill for him - the bigger the exposure, the bigger the thrill, like a roller coaster.
My other questions for him:
Why should Galina trust you? He agreed she shouldn't. Hence the legal separation. He said he had signed a piece of paper agreeing to take on all the debt, I told him she needed more than that.
What's the ultimate goal for the money - what is it you are really after? He repeated the crap about wanting to repay his parents. I told him most people want money to achieve security, stability, peace of mind, comfort, freedom from worry, and to take care of those they love. And that everything he was doing took him further away from that end.
Where are you staying tonight? He said, as I am sure he had practiced, "I can't say." But there is a couch somewhere you can stay on, right? He said he has lots of friends around Sacramento.
His questions of me:
Could I recommend a lawyer? One who would work for free. I had two responses: First, you get what you pay for. And secondly, why would I recommend anyone I respected or cared for to get in front of the trainwreck that is you?
So your advice for me is that I should get a job? I told him I had no advice for him since he so obviously didn't follow any given to him. I didn't really care what happened to him, he should just stop taking people down with him.
I suggested he find something he is good at and do that, since he was such a spectacular failure at real estate investing. He asked why I thought he was a failure. I compared him to the American Idol contestants who never make it past tryouts and are advised to go on singing as a hobby but don't expect to make a living at it.
And then I went home.
I regret not telling him one other thing: please do Galina a favor and cheat on her. Then she can divorce your sorry ass.
Not sure who wrote this... "How about the fact that she is an "accounting major" in college? My first year of accounting I learned enough to recognize very bad and illegal stuff"
I have seen this thrown out.. Here is the truth... She did declare accounting as her major. However, she only got to take one accounting class.. introduction to accounting... before Casey made her quit school...
"I'll bet she even egged his dreams on and pushed him to become a success. That makes her further responsible."
THis is not even remotely close to the truth.. nowhere near... I can understand speculation because people dont know the whole story... but that doenst make the speculation to be accurate...
Good Morning All, Just for the record, I'm a flying monkey chick. GTG, shopping and work on the hot tan lines. It is a really beautiful day with a blue sky, after a week of rain. TTFN (-:
He told me it was about being financial[ly] free from having to work!
That's all it is. I had a real estate agent/Kiyosaki fan tell me this mantra two years ago. We were "chumps" because we live off of a W-2 job. (She's in foreclosure now and can't sell any houses).
For you Casey:
"Reagan believed in the value of hard work. Robinson recounts that Reagan did much of the physical labor on Rancho del Cielo himself-chopping wood, riding horses, and building fences. He didn't see work as an affront to human dignity but rather as cooperation in God's creation."
155 comments:
murst
wooohooo I got one!
Yay!!
Just listening to the fraudcast now. Boy he sounds bitchy.
Why do you do this?
F I R S T (since no one else said it.)
CHJTS, the talkcast link apparently died because you had it set up for "12:00 AM Eastern" and then didn't show (since you re-scheduled it for 1:00 AM Eastern). You may have to start a new show.
FIRST
Let's go Shark, this old man's gettin sleepy! ;)
~Mark
Damn you, Benoit.
If it weren't for the goddamned drinking game suggested HERE I might have proceeded with my intended evening.
Schnapps -- ;-)
CHJTS, I guess you registered the new show, since the link re-appeared for 1:00 AM. Thanx
Call into the show, AkubiDoo™ :)
Ok if Akubi is drunk and phoning in, I'll tune into the cast
What show? I like to keep my super-secret-undercover-agent toy in in the breakfast cereal identitiy private.
BRB
~Mark
I hope there will be a listen feature, my computer refuses to run it otherwise :(
-Moonrabbit
There's a "just listen" button, Moon.
Back!
~Mark
Just for reference, who is Annie?
Hey MissLoss,
Not trying to be a CaseySupporterz her..
But what kind of support do you think will come across from Casey?
For throwing a suit out there you can't serve within a time you said you would, I think you have more tactics than power.
Not trying to be a hater, but you are letting more light through than we all need to know.
What's with this dude's voice?
this guy's voice sounds electronically slowed-down
Pink lips!
God, are all you guys still up?
Duane and LMP.. something that's been in my craw since the end of tonight's FC. This whole "they want to fuck Galina" thing.
I don't blame you for outrage; I'd be the exact same way. Just understand what he's doing. He needs a narrative, one that a) explains why Galina's locked him out, b) leaves the possibility that Galina might take him back in, and c) doesn't immediately cast him in a bad light among primary players. I really got the sense tonight that he's working the kinks out of this particular story line. I've seen this done before.
If I were you guys, I'd expect this new narrative to go long term. Take that for whatever you want, but it's just the kind of thing Casey needs to believe at this point - hence, he will. Give it another week, and his story will be that you guys conspired from day one to ruin him and steal his wife.
Be pissed, just don't be surprised.
Pink Lips! Galinka!
Pink Lips sounds like Cheech & Chong doing Sister Mary Elephant.
I think she has a point - I'm not quite convinced Galina is innocent. If she was fully innocent then why did she go on the Utah trip?
Classsss...
CLAAASSSSsssss.
SHUT UPP!!!!
There was another hater with me here today..thanks for coming out to chat with us.
THanks again for the conversation and discussion with Casey.
You keep it all real.
Signed,
A Casey Nosupporter...
WE'RE HANGING ON CASEY'S BALLSACK!!!
"Claaaaassss, this is Sgt. Stedenko..."
Michael @ 10:04 PM:
”For throwing a suit out there you can't serve within a time you said you would, I think you have more tactics than power.”
Yeah you’re right I’ve got not power, no juice, no alternatives.
@ Honestly Wondering
I hear ya, and I’m on it. Wait and see. ;)
~Mark
This is the funniest shit I have ever heard!!!!!!!
Say "Galinka" again, Pink Lips!
Pink Lips is hilarious!!!!
BINGO!!!
Everybody drink!!!
Hatercasts are so much funnier when they are held late at night when everyone is in the bag.
Pink Slips ain't scared!!! Why does Casey owe Mark money???
Blah, blah fuckin blah!!!!
Almost done with the fraudcast.
Lordy, you know it had to suck to be the waitron responsible for Casey's table. Hours drinking water & 1 foccacia AND a fraudcast admitting he has no place to live. THAT was gonna be a nice tip on the table, huh?
The only way you are gonna stop Casey is watching from Mice And Men..
"Hey George, let's go flip those beautiful houses.
"Over the hill, Lenny. Those are really beautiful houses."
"Let's go over there George So I won't be so bad."
"OK, Lenny. OK....mfffffffffffffphhhh..pillow case......"
Back to reality:
Casey is to make out in Real Estate like none of you fools have before!!!
Enuff said!!
I am having a hard time following this. It's like listening to bad CB radio when I was a kid.
Why is giving money to Casey violating federal law???
At 10:08 PM, Lou Minatti said...
Pink Lips! Galinka!
Pink Lips sounds like Cheech & Chong doing Sister Mary Elephant.
At 10:11 PM, Mouse And Pencil said...
"Claaaaassss, this is Sgt. Stedenko...
Wow. I can't believe two people in the same thread can also remember this stuff. That was 28-30 years ago.
Can I get a reward? Well then I want to turn in Billy. He sold me this shit and I didn't even get off on it.
So what does Pink Lips think Casey's going to do with any money she gives him? Pay off some of his massive debts? Because that would be the Christian thing to do, right? Ha!!!
Folks, this whole story is so much better than anything on the TV. I'm an addict and I'm not ashamed to say it.
@Fly
Me and my friends snuck into Up In Smoke when we were in 8th grade, and we got a hold of one of their albums and memorized it. I've been a HUGE fan ever since, I have most of their albums and movies.
I remember when "The Three Little Pigs" was on the radio. Does that date me?
Where's the f-ing link to this thing? Said boyfriend shut down my laptop.
@Akubi
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=34513&cmd=tc
CHJTS, after Annie, pick me ;-)
Hee, hee--nice photo of Casey at top of thread. He looks just like a homeless dude with a laptop.
Mouse - Three little pigs on the radio? That would date you, and with an older timestamp than I.
If I think about that album I can remeber most of it word for word too. Thats scary considering the amount of pot that has been smoked in the interim.
Do you remember the drive in skit?
The peter-rooter commercial?
Shutting down now. IF you want to reach me..I'm at MexicanMikey@gmail.com.
Trick the dumb.
Smile, everybody. These comments will one day be combed over by attorneys on both sides in anticipation of upcoming litigation.
You're in the history books. Well, considering what we're talking about here, maybe it's more like the history tabloids.
Done reviewing the fraudcast.
My goodness, what a petulant child.
The new Casey photo from tonight: That's just creepy. The doo is not hip, it's just greasy and bummy. I'm pretty far from George Wallace circa 1971, but GET A DAMN HAIRCUT.
Shark, I think you tried to un-mute me but you unmuted the Dude by mistake... :-p
Get back to me stat!
ROFLMAO
He wants to end on a positive note & the final question is, "Why haven't you sought psychological help yet?"
KC needs a haircut BAD!
boy, Casey is MAD during the fraudcast
Yay T! You go girl!!!
Pink Lips, big tits? Pink Lips is a man, man.
Mark - don't you think it is strange to talk to Casey for five hours? And say it was very productive? You talked spirituality with Casey Serin for FIVE HOURS!????
WTF?????
Re: Pink Lips
she's a laaady... woah, woah, woah, she's a laaady...
CATFIGHT!!!! CATFIGHT!!!!
C'mon kiss!!!
Holy F*CK! Drag Queen Catfight!
Cat fight on HaterCast
Seriously, Pink Lips is a man. Lighten up.
Richard Branson doesn't have a degree..what's the point here?
To the Gen Y'er arguing with LMP...if you're trying to call someone out, you should form your questions beforehand, don't try to think on the fly.
Chief100 is funny as shit!!!!
Who is this pinklips????
I think she's one of Marty's trolls.
I think she's one of those women who marry incarcerated men.
Mark is full of hot air!!!
He hasn't even talked to Galina in three weeks. Did he have her on the lawsuit too?
Why does Casey owe Mark a lot of money? And for what?
I thought Mark was in this to help Casey??
I knew Maerk was in this for the money!!!!
HOT AIR!!!!!
Has Gaysey had a haircut this year? Washed it this week?
Why does Casey owe Mark "a lot of money" all the suudden???
LMP
Seriously I am all for Casey being brought down under any means necessary but to continue to act as if its some national security secret that you cant answer in regard to naming Mocha in the lawsuit is just ridiculous and eats away at any credibility we were giving you.
If it was a dumb idea initially or a knee jerk reaction to the fact that she wont stop linking to you or mentioning you in the comments section on IAFF then just fucking say so!
"Haterzcast screen capture" -- LOL, Dawg! (One is male and one is female I presume?)
Mark is doing this just because he is pissed - don't cross him!! Your bunny will end up in a pot!
Good to see that T and Annie are still up and on board. Any other of the women of EN? Give me a few minutes to compose my thoughts and report on my chat with KC after tonight's Fraudcast. I have needed the last few hours to decompress. Instead of a shower I needed to soak up the honest, genuine, morally upright, realistic authenticity of my real live DH. Shared a good conversation and a the benefits of his highly evolved bartending skills. More soon.
Nigel,
Just got home. Listened to you live while in Dallas, then got on the plane.
You sounded like a dad or big brother reading Casey the riot act (which he so very richly deserves!).
Tremendous performance!
I'm a wench, dammit
Does any one else get mad when posters say, "I think Galina must be as guilty as Casey because she:
chose one
- signed the paperwork
- spent the money
- went to (Utah/Hawaii/NRU/Modesto).
I have no idea if she is guilty. I do know for an absolute certainty has acted just like a newly married young person who wants to travel and be with her newly minted husband. It ain't a smokin' gun.
And, no, I don't think most of those who post like that are trolls. They just need to get out more often.
If you are going to speculate, at least use some evidence that is not so easily explained away by human nature.
CHJTS, reading this? Pick Me, Pick Me!! It's almost 2:00 AM on the East Coast. ;-)
Duane, Mark, Nigel, Rob,
Time to get medieval on Casey's ass!
Casey will throw anyone under the bus. Asking for the whys behind the lawsuit could cause Casey to try and cover his tracks by throwing more people under the bus.
Johnny B GOOD
How about the fact that she is an "accounting major" in college? My first year of accounting I learned enough to recognize very bad and illegal stuff.
ROB,
I see him throwing people under the bus as a good thing. Doesn't it only force them to in turn do the same to Casey?
I don't care in the slightest why Mark is going after Casey.
Business issues, money due, revenge, spite, moral outrage, etc...
Whatever - they all work for me!
Nigel was AWESOME! I love how Casey was just silent - couldn't come up with a response. Threw Nigel for a loop too.
Damn. Go Nigel.
Pink Lips - WTF?
Endgame's an equal-opportunity hater.
"Try" is the key word there salty dawg. We all know he is at the end of his rope.
I still want to know why.
@YouSoSpecial--I'm a girlie too.
"Why does Casey owe Mark "a lot of money" all the suudden???"
Speculating: Casey, Marty or some of their associates harassed Mark's business(800 number jamming) or made disparaging comments on the Internet.
Alternately, in Mark's and Casey's original contract Casey falsely declared no assets to get Mark to work pro bono.
How about the fact that she is an "accounting major" in college? My first year of accounting I learned enough to recognize very bad and illegal stuff.
Casey wasn't even OPENING the mail and you still want to claim that he let her see the details in the unopened mail?
BTW - not doubting or saying Mark's wrong or anything. I take him at his word.
WRT Casey, the ends justify the means for me.
@T -
Listening to your new fan, all I could think of was this sketch:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AFc3OWZWyxM
If Mark is not an attorney - why did he tell Galina that he had to terminate their relationship on June 17??
What relationship?????
Dawg - WTF???
WTF??????
I see him throwing people under the bus as a good thing. Doesn't it only force them to in turn do the same to Casey?
No, you cannot unbreak a smashed vase.
LOL!
^ @ Bemused.
What relationship?????
Dawg - WTF???
Terminate contact so that there would be no appearance of a relationship.
Mark, if you read this -- tell CHJTS that I'll stick around to listen to the rest of this, and I'll call back in during the round-table...
Yes, this is more important than sleep. :-)
@At 10:51 PM, T said...
Endgame's an equal-opportunity hater.
Yes'm - that would be correct. I now take any opportunity to hate on the worthless little POS. The little bastard has MAJOR issues with women. I have a daughter G's age. If he were my son-in-law....
Ok, feel free to delete this comment for the sake of G not seeing it because I am well aware of the fact that if she feels people are against her here she will not share information or allow any to be shared. I also recognize the very real possibility that some here refuse to speak honestly in regard to her responsibility because of that....
HOWEVER, just because Casey didnt open the mail, or he hid it from her is ridiculous. She signed papers and whether it was just technically for Casey or not she still has a legal responsibility for that! Same with the IRS, it doesnt matter if you had no idea your husband was fraudulently claiming a refund of $10 million, if you sign it you cannot use the "I didnt know" defense. YOU SHOULDVE KNOWN, OR CHECKED IT OVER. And how can you miss that? NO closing service, or notary is going to say just sign here without going over EVERY page!
Did Mark name Galina in the lawsuit?
I know Pink Lips. She's the big girl who hangs out with the gay guys in clubs & then bitches endlessly that they can't find a man of their own.
Maybe Pink Lips is one of the No Limit Ladies?
As far as we know, they still have an interest in Casey's story. And manufacturing drama/interest therein.
Pink Flips has some issues...T, sorry you weren't able to get any sense out of her/him/it.
Dear God - I am having a fucking hernia - this is THE FUNNIEST SHIT I have EVER heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hmmm so steve was the one who drove Casey back from Portland?
Pink Lips, no one wants to hear about your sagging testicles.
And for those who don't understand why some men are gay...
Exhibit A: Pink Lips
@Jade & LMP-
I caught that too.
Care to tell us about your alleged call to Steve?
Mark,
Please pass along that Annie says:
"Call on me and I'll talk about my boobs if anyone cares."
SSD,
Your gargantuan mammary fetish is going to be the death of us all.
How about the fact that she is an "accounting major" in college?
Oh, don't get me wrong. She should have known. If my spouse got me on the hook for $2.2MM, I'd sure want to know about it. I'd want a game plan, and not some multicolored crap scribbled on a whiteboard.
What X Who X When X How much.
If the simple math works, do the hard math. If that works, expect 30 to 50% overruns and run the numbers again. (I'm sure Casey was much more rigorous in his Biz Plan than this). Over time you can shorthand a lot of this. But not in the first 8 months
But Casey is slick and charming (well, he wasn't slick tonight...), and G was in love. We tend to overlook lots of stuff when we are in love. I will also bet that she WANTED to believe. 23 and married to a businessman who is on his way?
I also think that Casey hid stuff from her when things started to go wrong. "It's all good, honey" "Living in Yulia's house is just a temporary setback. We will bne out in a couple of months."
IMO, it all adds up to: she should have known, but did no want to. This makes her none to diligent, but it does not make her Casey.
The 'Guilty Galina Hatin' Crew' were certain that G and Casey's mom would welcome him back with open arms. Not the case, eh? Probably the G in jail and G as guilty as Casey will be equally successful.
How does Mark expect to win "lots of money" from Casey??
@At 11:09 PM, Caseys Sex Life said...
How does Mark expect to win "lots of money" from Casey??
He may not expect to see it. Maybe just a means to force discovery.
You just said Casey was playing you for a chump, Mark and owed you money. But you spent FIVE hours on the phone with him just a couple of weeks ago????
WTF???
No, I am not hating Galena. Nor am i saying she is as guilty as Casey. I agree she probably did not want to know, wasnt too concerned about it, blinded by love and on & on. That still doesnt not exempt her from some responsibility.
She is a willing victim.
Was Galina named on the original lawsuit??
Hey I am here - I just had my phone on mute. Name is Astrozombie
@CSF
No, Casey's Mom was, Mocha, and a couple other trolls. He removed them.
Endgame-
His response was that Casey played him for a chump and owed him lots of money. I don't think Mark is doing this out of the goodness of his heart for the people of CA.
she still has a legal responsibility for that
There is a VERY big gap between being legally responsible and just as guilty as Casey.
I don't think that anyone her does not think G is somehow not responsible for the debt.....That would be just plain stupid, and I mean really, casey-type stupid.
But since October or November G has been getting more and more vehement about CS taking care of his business. I'll bet she even egged his dreams on and pushed him to become a success. That makes her further responsible. But se's nowhere as guilty as our young crook Casey.
Evreybody acts like Mark is such a hero. Why? He went into business with a crook and he knew it. Now he is suing Casey cause he got jacked.
Mark is a collection agent. Period.
Re: Casey being served--too bad Michael couldn't have handed it to him during the fraudcast earlier. How friggin' hilarious would THAT have been? "Uh...OK..that kinda sucks."
CSL--why shouldn't Mark sue him?
Yeah, CSL. This Mark lawsuit is so ill-defined, probably by design. I don't think Mark is a hero. But I do think that he has every right to do what he's doing. I support him because stopping Casey is important.
You go, Mark.
What the hell is he talking about?? $10,000 less than $25,000....
@At 11:29 PM, Caseys Sex Life said...
What the hell is he talking about?? $10,000 less than $25,000...
I thought he was quite clear - it's specific language the court requires so the clerk can route it correctly.
Convoluted, yes, but that's an issue to take up with the court.
Mark is a collection agent. Period.
Mark is a park ranger
Mark is a lawyer
Mark is not a lawyer
Mark in a compulsive gambler
Mark is a podiatrist
Mark is a dental technician
Mark is a lap dancer
Mark is an unemployed ruglicker
Mark is the reincarnation of a butterfly
Mark is the embodiment of all that is mediocre and bland in this world
Mark the next president of the US
WHO CARES!
Mark is a thorn in Casey's side. Period. That's all that matters.
Johnny B Goode, I'll give you that Galina could have been young and in love. Terrific. Should'nt we Casey the same 'out'? Of course not. If she signed her name on multiple documents putting her on title to multiple houses, she participated in fraud.
It seems very cut and dry to me. I don't really buy into her being young and in love. Repeatedly throughout our history, courts have not looked too favorably on that defense either. I also don't buy into Casey being some Svengali working some sort of magical spell over her.
I believe Casey knew very well what he was doing and hoped that appreciation would overcome any of his mistakes. Galina got caught up in the lifestyle and assisted without asking any questions.
Not every choice we make in life is always an easy one to make. But avoidance of making the right choice does not absolve one of the potential downside consequences.
@At 11:33 PM, Johnny B Good said...
WHO CARES!
Mark is a thorn in Casey's side. Period. That's all that matters.
AMEN - I couldn't agree more.
I posted my photos from tonight's fraudcast and following chat on my blogger page.
It's 2:35AM on the east coast. I turn on m computer, and WTF... you guys have been all Casey, all night.
Who's owning who?
This is like a WWE storyline. Vince McMahon would be proud.
And who are those man-hating battered women on the call right now?
So Bubba -- you checking in to EN at 2:35 AM makes you better than us?
More like the Seven Samurai.
Mark is also going to be a huge thorn in Galin's side when she in involved in this lawsuit, her family's side when she faces charges and of course Casey's family. This lawsuit is a result of someone being pissed off - it was not thought out and will have far reaching implications. Mark iniially wanted to have Casey negotiate with him and drop the whole thing. Now it is a matter of pride that will have a lot of victims. I didn't realize till tonight just how by the seat of his pants Mark acted in filing this.
A relaationship that involved a five hour conversation just a couple of weeks ago - a lawsuit threatened just several days later with an ultimatum that wasn't met - what wsa the ultimatum I wonder? Pride that forced the suit to be filed and now anger in defending himself in filing it,,,..maybe because he never expected it to go this far??
READ THIS MARK!
Is that LostMittens?
Is he gay? I know he's not married, and a voice analysis tells me he has real emotions when discusing Casey.
That's unlike CHJTS and Benoit who are in this for the fun, and wating for the train wreck.
Caseys sex life...
I honestly believe Casey wouldnt have it any other way. If he goes down i totally believe he would want everyone with him that he could drag into it.
Not better, buddy. I'm just surprised.
The Casey story is funny and slightly addictive. but I didnt realise how much.
Did G start blowing random employed guys to get back at Murse Boi?
That was a joke! A Convoluted joke!
Mark is probably hoping to get a judgment from Marty, not Casey. That would make more sense when he says it is about getting money but not wanting to hurt Casey.
@Bubba--heh, point taken. Addicts indeed.
Here is what I have to say after meeting KC in person.
He's exactly what I expected.
All of his mannerisms and responses were as described by others and heard before.
He is impervious to criticism, advice, logic, humiliation, anger, rejection, failure.
Michael bought him a beer and the three of us sat at a table chatting until I couldn't take any more.
The only moment KC became animated was when I asked him what he got out of the attention he seemed to crave. He lit up and described his excitement at getting media exposure. When I first asked the question, he responded with a question - what's wrong with it? I told him it wasn't critical - I honestly don't understand the desire for public attention, particularly when so much of it is humiliating or critical, and wanted to know the emotional charge he got from it. He smiled and sat up and gestured and opened his eyes describing his response to a media interview. It was apparent there was a thrill for him - the bigger the exposure, the bigger the thrill, like a roller coaster.
My other questions for him:
Why should Galina trust you? He agreed she shouldn't. Hence the legal separation. He said he had signed a piece of paper agreeing to take on all the debt, I told him she needed more than that.
What's the ultimate goal for the money - what is it you are really after? He repeated the crap about wanting to repay his parents. I told him most people want money to achieve security, stability, peace of mind, comfort, freedom from worry, and to take care of those they love. And that everything he was doing took him further away from that end.
Where are you staying tonight? He said, as I am sure he had practiced, "I can't say." But there is a couch somewhere you can stay on, right? He said he has lots of friends around Sacramento.
His questions of me:
Could I recommend a lawyer? One who would work for free. I had two responses: First, you get what you pay for. And secondly, why would I recommend anyone I respected or cared for to get in front of the trainwreck that is you?
So your advice for me is that I should get a job? I told him I had no advice for him since he so obviously didn't follow any given to him. I didn't really care what happened to him, he should just stop taking people down with him.
I suggested he find something he is good at and do that, since he was such a spectacular failure at real estate investing. He asked why I thought he was a failure. I compared him to the American Idol contestants who never make it past tryouts and are advised to go on singing as a hobby but don't expect to make a living at it.
And then I went home.
I regret not telling him one other thing: please do Galina a favor and cheat on her. Then she can divorce your sorry ass.
@yousospecial
Are you trying to tell me his relationsip with His Royal Pleatherness Nigel Swaby wasnt cheating?
Thanks for the field report YSS.
I am not worried about my manhood so I don't find gay bashing or the gay references amusing. (Sorry, Benoit. I enjoy your humor otherwise.)
https://www.tdnam.com/trpItemListing.aspx?&miid=7719233
OK another FSBO domain has been pricechopped 10%
10% for fishy treats
10% for galina divorce fund
can someone please expain why casey thinks his blog is worth 100K
price will be chopped 10% daily until sold.
"I regret not telling him one other thing: please do Galina a favor and cheat on her. Then she can divorce your sorry ass."
Considering that Casey will do anything for a couch to sleep on, he probably already has.
Beside's he has totally abandoned her emotionally.
Not sure who wrote this...
"How about the fact that she is an "accounting major" in college? My first year of accounting I learned enough to recognize very bad and illegal stuff"
I have seen this thrown out.. Here is the truth... She did declare accounting as her major. However, she only got to take one accounting class.. introduction to accounting... before Casey made her quit school...
Get that?? Introduction to Accounting...
@Me.. Pardon me but this is WRONG..
"She is a willing victim"
@JohnnyBeGood
"I'll bet she even egged his dreams on and pushed him to become a success. That makes her further responsible."
THis is not even remotely close to the truth.. nowhere near... I can understand speculation because people dont know the whole story... but that doenst make the speculation to be accurate...
THis is a complete 180 from what happened.
Good Morning All,
Just for the record, I'm a flying monkey chick.
GTG, shopping and work on the hot tan lines.
It is a really beautiful day with a blue sky, after a week of rain.
TTFN
(-:
@Michael (from last thread)
He told me it was about being financial[ly] free from having to work!
That's all it is. I had a real estate agent/Kiyosaki fan tell me this mantra two years ago. We were "chumps" because we live off of a W-2 job. (She's in foreclosure now and can't sell any houses).
For you Casey:
"Reagan believed in the value of hard work. Robinson recounts that Reagan did much of the physical labor on Rancho del Cielo himself-chopping wood, riding horses, and building fences. He didn't see work as an affront to human dignity but rather as cooperation in God's creation."
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