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So Rob, when do you stop jerking us around and start dropping your "bombs"? Who or what are you trying to protect that hasn't been exposed?
I'd swear you're just stringing us along for ad revenue, but there are no ads on your site.
I'm not trolling, but I'm getting tired of checking this site everyday only to read that things are still being "verified". I'm sure I'm not the only one around here.
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HEY CASEY, theres a whole town north of Sacramento that has had 2 EBAY owners...
the last owner committed suicide, looks like you can try to flip it. maybe appoint yourself mayor! you'd be better than a house flipper you can be a TOWNFLIPPER!
He introduced me to sci-fi, and I believe help mold my young mind. Themes that still resonate with me:
- government is not the solution - strong, independent minded, action prone, individuals are the solution - kick ass first, then take names [Lazarus on the frontier taking care of the drifters who decided they'd take over his homestead and wife] - women are not wilting flowers - they can be strong, too
(I try to forget the pervy, incest themes that ruined his later books)
"I'm not trolling, but I'm getting tired of checking this site everyday only to read that things are still being "verified". I'm sure I'm not the only one around here."
I have a suggestion for you. Checking back every other day may not be as tiring.
After listening to Mark on both the Fraudcast and the late night Hatercast - he needs to take his anger management problems and move on down the road. Sounds like he was personally vested in Casey and didn't get what he wanted in return. Everything else is bullshit. The constant alluding to the fact that you couldn't say anything because of the "LAWSUIT" was ridiculous - you couldn't even say how much education you had because it would be it the "lawsuit??? What exactly is in that lawsuit, Mark??? I think you are trying to play us all for fools, and I am so very tired of you. You said last night, "Suffice it to say, my case just doubled in strength tonight!" How by threatening the defendant? Yeah right, Matlock.
You have taken a lot of credit for helping out Galina but then admitted last night that you haven't even spoken to her since June 17 You know that Galina will be implicated in this lawsuit. What's the REAL reason that you told Galina that on June 17 you have to terminate "your business relationship?" What business contract did you have with Galina??? Never mind - I don't want to hear your bullshit answer. You are playing that poor woman too. Stop the bullshit again. You are a wannabe attorney throwing around a much of legalese that you don't even understand. The explanation that you gave for the screwup in how you worded the lawsuit was more bullshit.
Mark, when Casey takes a copy of last night's podcast and plays it for the judge you are burnt toast. You are violent and abusive. Now you are going to sue everyone that offers to support Casey financially?? When the judge hears the passion in your voice, how you talked "spirituality" with Casey for FIVE hours just a few weeks ago, then got angry with him so decided to sue him for revenge and now are threatening to go for his fucking throat - it will be YOU that he issues the restraining order against. Sounds like a freakin lovers quarrel gone bad. You need to move away from this story and concentrate on other things. I was laughing my ass off at you last night - a professional businessman DOES NOT conduct himself in the manner that you did. You are going to ruin your reputation if you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.
The fact that you said the FIVE hour phone call was about "spirituality" and how "productive" it was blew my mind. Did you get Casey to believe in God or start going to church? I call BULLSHIT!!! When's the last time you went to church Mark? You and Casey deserve each other - just what were you willing to negotiate with Casey before he blew you off last week - especially if he owes you "lots of money" Bullshit!!! I think you are as addicted to the attention as Casey is - who are you trying to kid?
The screaming last night you did that Casey owed you a LOT of money - that is why you are suing him - to get YOUR money back was a revelation. Why does Casey need to pay you back - for what?? What services did you provide or products did you sell to justify suing him for 10 large? You knew exactly who you were getting in bed with when you began this financially motivated attention seeking little adventure. Remember lobbing lawsuit threats at EN from across at Casey's camp? Now you are saying that HE made you "look like a chump"???? You had already done that to yourself by associating with him. You said that the reason you were suing Casey was because he made you "look like a chump", and he owed you "lots of money". I thought this lawsuit was to protect the innocent citizens against Casey - at least that is what you have been taking credit for.
You have taken credit for a lot of things that you don't deserve - after hearing you last night and the way you acted, the bullshit that you attempt to spin left and right, I would rather have Casey Serin win that lawsuit than you - he is a helluva lot more mentally stable.
i double dog dare you LMP to not check back in until your victory in court. i don't think i'm the only tiring of reading about a lawsuit that's happening, or not, about some issue that i think i understand. or not. about someone trying to do some business, or not, with a known crook, or not, and the deal not working out, or not.
http://housingpanic.blogspot.com/ has an IAFF link and the thread heading right beside it says FBI INVESTIGATES MORTGAGE FRAUD. Oh the irony of it. te he
Mark did work for Casey's benefit. Casey owed Mark for that with specific perfomance and because Casey didn't pay now Mark is asking for money.
Mark is used to working with the kind of people that get into deep financial difficulty. The lies and deceptions that caused the conflicts are that Casey is not that kind of person. The biggest lie is that Casey wants to fix things. Don't believe me? Look at the evidence. EVERYTHING he's done has made things worse.
Casey loves where he is now. Free of responsibility, no debts to pay, 2 years of livin' large and no consequenses that have any meaning to him whatsoever.
And face it we've made him a better criminal for next time. He is Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat. I never thought pointing out scams as illegal would turn into a free course in underming society but that's because I never dreamed that LE would be so arbitrary and arrogant. Everything Casey commited this year is not soley his fault. He cannot help himself. LE is to blame. The only questiuon is how far is Casey allowed to go before he is stopped.
This didn't start out as betrayal of trust. There was no need for "trust." It was just a business relationship that Casey abused. Casey abuses EVERYTHING. Look at vdubs, how he burns through phones and toyz. People too.
The lawsuit is all that's left. When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. I don't like It but then again I don't have a better suggestion.
J was a Hater wrote post number 192 at IAFF. This commenter looks like an attorney who has surfaced to work for free writing answers and counter suing Mark for his bombast. 4:09 PM
I'm fairly certain this letter was NEVER written or sent:
Dear Irwin,
I've decided it's going to be Normandy beach on June 5th at low tide. With the 6th as a rain day. And we were fooling about Georgie and the First US Army.
I would laugh if Casey took J up on his offer. Casey does not need responses written by some random alleged attorney. He needs a real live flesh and blood attorney.
K. Now...did they have a signed contract? If they did, why wasn't it one of Mark's attachments? If they didn't, how can Mark sue for breach of a non-existant contract?
192 at IAFF. This commenter looks like an attorney who has surfaced to work for free writing answers and counter suing Mark for his bombast.
About freakin' time. Casey needs a lawyer and his particular defect means he needs a free lawyer.
No the fun begins. Somewhere about minute 45 in Casey's first pro bono hour the lawyer looses it and shouts so that everyone in the Starbucks can hear; "Let me get this straight. You did WHAT?!?" Then regaining composure he says, look Casey, here's what we are gonna do. I'm erasing this and tearing up my notes. You go back on your blog and wipe everything, I mean everything that we ever met. In exchange I'll just get up and walk away and pretend this conversation never took place. It isn't ethical but ... oh man.. I just don't want any part of this. And if you don't do what I'm telling you... Jeez my professional reputation is on the line here. Just shut up and go away.
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Police said 32-year-old Jeff John Hergert approached the women and "expressed interest in them." He told each woman in two separate incidents that they were extremely beautiful and that they should consider modeling.
Hergert was arrested and is being held on two counts of harassment. He is being held on a $10,000 bond."
So I hear LMP now claims Casey him money. Was there a second contract? I don’t follow ever minutia of this saga. But here is LMP’s own words from when he first hooked up with Casey, and according to this, Casey owes him “zilch, nada, zip, zero”
“It’s important to make clear helping people like Casey is my job; it’s what I do for a living. Yet as I set out to assist Mr. Serin I do so without delusions and no expectation of monetary compensation. I am taking on this assignment for free, gratis, zilch, nada, zip, zero-money paid by Casey. There are a number of reasons for this, primarily because: 1) he couldn’t afford me (at present) were I to charge; 2) I’d much rather Casey devote as much spare income as possible to mortgage lender/creditor workouts; and, 3) professional ethics dictate that a no-fee arrangement be extended to one facing so much financial turmoil.”
I've read Mark's or should I say Anthony's posts, under the user name Crdt Dfnse, on the Credit Talk Forums. It appears he has a great deal of knowledge with regard to debt and collections issues. http://consumers.creditnet.com/Discussions/u-crdt-dfnse-165.html
Rob Dawg said..."Mark is used to working with the kind of people that get into deep financial difficulty". Exactly, he's been dealing with these types of people for years, from both the collection side and the consumer side. He's been dealing with deadbeats for a long time and has to have some idea of what these types of people are like. I would have to surmise there is more to this than him just wanting to do the right thing and get paid for his work with Casey. Why put yourself out there to work with Casey in the first place, who by that time, was aconfirmed deadbeat and con artist, unless there was something more to gain. It just doesn't make sense.
Dawg barked: "I never dreamed that LE would be so arbitrary and arrogant"
Then you haven't been paying attention. :)
Dishonest money breeds dishonest people. The United States has been thriving on corruption for several years. Honest people are generally regarded as more of a threat than minor criminals because large #s of citizens are in on minor theft some form or fashion.
Pat: You know I think we’re coming from two different perspectives. I’m commenting on this subject based on actual experience with a wide variety of cases, whereas you are apparently considering only case law. This doesn’t mean either is necessarily wrong, per se. Only such applications of theory from tactical standpoints differ greatly, and are dependant on many factors specific to a case.
Look at it this way… Sure one can purport a certain ruling, but litigation is far more a matter of tactics than anything else. To prevail one must have a game plan, strategies that serve to prove a given point. So while I commend and (truly) admire your enthusiasm, prevailing in litigation is far more than being able to quote case law as absolute. It’s anything but, as you may agree, because it is ever changing by follow-up rulings.
From the Fraudcast conversation with Duane: How is this helping me?
Classic. "Well, it's not helping ME, so I'll just put you on mute and ignore you." I never cease to be amazed that LossMit, Nigel, and Duane have shifted from trying to help Casey to trying to help contain the destruction he's wreaking on his family, friends, business partners, and lenders... They are becoming "Casey Mitigation Pros."
It's very unlikely that a lawyer would do that. Lawyers are used to mendacious clients. If they weren't that way, they probably wouldn't need a lawyer in the first place.
And lawyers are never judged by their clients (or at least they shouldn't be).
Not participating in ongoing fraud, no suborning perjury, those things are bad, and grounds to end representation. Just 'cos your client is a douche isn't normally reason to.
Not to say the guy might meet casey and then decide that he doesn't want to represent him, but I doubt he would storm out bitching about his 'reputation'.
And before people call me a troll, I don't like what casey did at all.n But frankly, this whole 'lawsuit' sticks in my throat. Especially this bit about 'casey must be stopped'. Well he has been, more or less.
How about going after the people at the top who enabled him in the first place instead? Because they gave these loans knowing damn well they could sell them on, and THEY IS IN UR PENSIONZ, STEELING UR RETIREMENTZ.
rob, i've got no issues with lmp filing some sort of suit against casey. atleast someone is trying something to slow casey down. that's good. i believe the issue is with lmp desiring to be the complete authority on a subject he doesn't wish to fully disclose. for some reason, the rest of us are left to just agree with everything lmp says, even though we are privy to all of the suppose information.
that's fine if some of you wish to keep everything underwraps, until it's 'time to share'. personally, i would much rather not have any teases from you or anyone else and then have the whole story at once. but to not expect, or accept, some readers of en to voice their disagreement, just builds frustration.
rob, i've got no issues with lmp filing some sort of suit against casey. atleast someone is trying something to slow casey down. that's good. i believe the issue is with lmp desiring to be the complete authority on a subject he doesn't wish to fully disclose. for some reason, the rest of us are left to just agree with everything lmp says, even though we are privy to all of the suppose information.
that's fine if some of you wish to keep everything underwraps, until it's 'time to share'. personally, i would much rather not have any teases from you or anyone else and then have the whole story at once. but to not expect, or accept, some readers of en to voice their disagreement, just builds frustration.
Pure speculation, but is it possibe LMP's plan was to negotiate the debt down, purchase the debt, have Casey hand over IAFF, use IAFF to pay back the debt. Turn IAFF in to foreclosure site bringing in lots of new debtors/customers.
Unlike apparently a bunch of other people here, I don't have a law degree, so I can only presume to gather what my limited intellect can comprehend from reading and experience. I also don't know LMP personally and am in no way privy to the inside scoop.
My reading of all this is that LMP needed a dollar amount to demonstrate compensation, a fundamental requirement of taking a civil legal action over a contract. He selected the $10K number based on the fee he waived in return for Casey behaving himself, which Casey didn't do. Hence, fraudulent inducement of employment. That particular dollar figure also put him into Superior Court.
There's nothing sinister about money being involved - those are called "damages", again a fundamental part of a lawsuit. Until there's criminal charges on deck, any civil court case is going to involve money. Cope.
Also, I've read a lot of people here trying to make a big deal about whether LMP and Casey had a written agreement. In reality, it may not matter - the court will look for evidence of a "meeting of the minds" between the two men as the contract in fact, and go from there. At this stage, there's a mountain of recorded evidence that they had a working agreement.
In the last thread, M&P commented that he's about ready to bounce, because so many people here are acting like spoiled children. I am, too. LMP, Duane, even Rob don't owe anyone here a damned thing, and unlike Casey they have the brains to keep their mouths shut where it matters.
(Emotions aside, that is - and truth is, LMP's outburst last night probably won't impact the case at all, unless it substantially alters the facts of the complaint. "Tearing your fucking throat out" doesn't seem to do that, from where I sit.. the judge isn't going to throw the case out just because the plaintiff has a temper.)
Too many people here got their law degrees from NBC.
Harold, Casey hasnt been stopped, he hasnt even been slowed down.
He's been effectively homeless for 4 weeks now, is now seperated from his wife. Yet has more money than he did 2 months ago, (it appears) a car to drive around and places to stay.
He's already planning to flee Sac. (and his family again), he said so last night.
There will ALWAYS be supporterz for him to crash with. Either people who think we're too hard on him, or only believe his side of the story, or others like him who don't see any problem with his various frauds.
The old saying about blind squirrels applies, eventually he will happen onto a big money deal, for the blog, for an interview, something. Yes history says he will eventually lose it, but he can keep floating indefinately until his paypal account and or blog+book are taken away.
The ONLY way to stop him is to kick the financial supports away or for him to face legal charges.
Dawg is being intentionally cryptic of late. That's his right of-course, but I'm going to try and interpret at least part of his message. It seems as if Dawg's claiming that LMP believes KC owes him money because he did some pro-bono ("nada, zilch, zero") work and KC did something bad that led to LMP stopping working. Apparently in LMP's mind that means his charitable efforts now deserve compensation. This seems to be yet another (at least the fifth by my count) reason for the lawsuit.
I really hope I'm wrong here because you'd have to be an exceptional prick to offer to help someone for free only to turn around and charge them when things don't work out. The kind of person who does this is nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, back-stabber who deserves neither respect nor trust. Please tell me my interpretation is wrong.
Over the years I've had many occasions to provide free services for needy individuals or organizations. There's been a couple of occasions where it's been necessary to terminate the arrangement for one reason or another, but never once has it even crossed my mind to try to collect money for services that I'd offered for free. Only an asshole would do that.
It does seem that LMP has taken the admirable first step of removing himself from public forums. I now hope he'll take the second step and withdraw his asinine law suit. If he does that his poor reputation would be somewhat better in my eyes.
Yes, I know I don't know everything. The super secret stuff will supposedly change my mind. Perhaps that's true, if it is I'll be the first to admit it. In the meantime I form opinions based on all of the facts at hand.
"Pure speculation, but is it possibe LMP's plan was to negotiate the debt down, purchase the debt, have Casey hand over IAFF, use IAFF to pay back the debt. Turn IAFF in to foreclosure site bringing in lots of new debtors/customers."
Kirk, no I think you hit what LMP stated most directly about the point of the suit (there are others he hasn't gone into).
But look at it this way. There may be reasons that LMP stated his rate as whatever it was (free as far as we know) Perhaps he was expecting some side monetary benefits like referrals or future business based on goodwill from solving Casey's very complex and deeb situation. He has said that his expecations were based on a genuine desire on Casey's part to pay back debt, which Mark later determined to be false.
Based on these expectations, lets assume that Mark may have had to pass on working with other clients who would have netted him the amount claimed in the suit.
Now we have a realistic lawsuit. Mark was falsely induced into employment for Casey that caused him to miss out on revenue both from that employment and generated by other clients.
Its similar to going to work for a company (when you had multiple offers) with the assumption your new employer has multiple clients to place immediatelyyou with only to find that they had no desire to put you to work past an initial project (or at all, they just hired you to put you "on the bench" awaiting work to develop)
No chance he pulls it, a judge would have to dismiss it.
5:23 @Kirk: I really hope I'm wrong here because you'd have to be an exceptional prick to offer to help someone for free only to turn around and charge them when things don't work out. The kind of person who does this is nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, back-stabber who deserves neither respect nor trust. Please tell me my interpretation is wrong.
Again, I'm not privy, so I'm speculating. But I think your interpretation is wrong.
One, I highly doubt the arrangement was legally any sort of charitable deal, because it sure sounds to me like it was conditionally predicated. I've done my own fair share of volunteer work as well, and I sense that this was a different arrangement - there was some sort of compensation element here that we're not privy to. I strongly suspect that LMP *conditionally* waiving his fees is *not* the same as him agreeing to work pro bono (i.e., unconditionally working for free).
Yes, I know that's more secret stuff, but that's between Casey and LMP. If they want to reveal, fine - but we don't have any inherent right to know those details.
Two, it didn't just "not work out". LMP put his reputation on the line to make debtor payback arrangements, and Casey screwed him without a thought. Casey very clearly failed to live up to the conditions under which LMP waived his fees. This wasn't just some personality conflict that overflowed into the legal system.
What's happening here is that Casey wants to play the victim role, and people are letting him. LMP stopped talking because he has a court date to prepare for, and he got tired of constantly answering the same series of airhead attacks on his character. By default, Casey keeps relative control of the spin until the legal hammer falls.
Like others have said, the courts won't be impressed with "it's all good". LMP's going to smash the kid.
I suppose there could have been a side deal between KC and LMP. LMP could also have been banking on future referrals or exposure by helping KC. However, he has said many times that he was doing this to help KC without expectation of compensation. I take him at his word. Even if he missed out working for other clients while helping KC that was time he knew he was going to lose. It's not right to expect compensation when the arrangement ends, if that's what he is doing.
I also don't buy the loss of reputation argument I'm afraid. Let me give you an example. I have recommended many people for jobs at clients. On one occasion the person I recommended was hired and turned out to be a complete disaster. The company wasn't happy, but since they had a long relationship with me that one circumstance didn't ruin my reputation in their eyes.
If LMP did vouch for KC with creditors, it was only for a few weeks. Surely he has worked with these companies for years and they judge him based on that entire time, not just this one circumstance.
Standard Disclaimer: Yes, I don't know all the facts. If and when I do I may change my mind.
Two more points and then I'm going to go enjoy my Saturday evening..
I've been reading a lot of comments here today ripping LMP for claiming to want to help Casey, and then OH MY GOD "turning on him" and claiming a financial self-interest.
Grow up, people; that's any client-based business relationship. Generally speaking, it's good business to want to help your clients.. but bad business to let that desire expose you to liability. Your family doctor does the same damned thing - there's no conflict of interest there.
Also..
5:50pm Edgar: I wouldn't do business with LMP in a million years. They can't be trusted with confidential material and they'll turn on you like a rabid dog.
You mean the Marty contract? The one Casey emailed to LMP unsolicited, outside of any business relationship (this happened after their fallout) and in blatant violation of Marty's NDA? You mean that confidential information?
Or do you mean the Casey Tapes - the MP3's that leaked out due to negligence on Marty's part, mirrored by LMP (again, outside of any professional relationship with Casey)?
So far, I haven't seen LMP release any private information offered to him in confidence within the scope of his professional relationship with Casey, and I think I've been paying fairly close attention.
I hear what you are saying. But realistically, casey is not buying anymore houses, not starting any more corporations, and not opening up any more lines of sweet credit.
He's homeless, he's lost his wife, he's lost his family. (He lost his mind a long time ago).
He is, to all intents and purposes shut down.
Don't get me wrong: I don't feel sorry for him, he's brought it all on his own head.
But I also don't feel that he is public enemy number one either.
Meh. Maybe teh big reveal will prove me wrong. I'm just a spectator after all, and maybe he is Lex Luthor or some such.
But I do stand by the notion that this lawsuit is not going to redound to any of the participants credit.
Kirk I don't know what Mark's original arrangement was with Casey, and honestly if it wasnt in writing it may not even matter. I was just trying to explain it based on my current understanding of comments Mark has made.
At this point its up to the judge(s) to side with Mark or Casey/Marty and any lawyers they bring to determine if his complaint has any merit and if so, to what degree.
Courts are a funny thing, just remember some of the crazy suits that have happened in the past (millions for food being...hot for example).
And just remember, this facet is only part of the reasons for the suit, some of which LMP has never talked about.
@harold I hear what you are saying. But realistically, casey is not buying anymore houses, not starting any more corporations, and not opening up any more lines of sweet credit.
Not yet, but the second he can pull it off, he will.
Why do you think he is putting money into paying off credit debt? He's trying to position Hammar as a vehicle to getting more loans to pull off deals.
Its even been hinted that he HAS tried to buy a house (for cashback) in the last 2 months.
Yep, I pretty much agree. We can all have an opinion on the lawsuit, and throw out predictions on it's outcome, but the only opinion that counts is the judges.
You know, this whole circus has been a fun diversion for me, for the most part. Sure, I've gotten red-faced angry reading about KC's latest exploits on occasion. And I have nothing but sympathy and good wishes for G and others hurt by KC's actions. But this whole LMP thing infuriates me. What I see as his bullying in the guise of being nothing more than a business man pisses off this business man. It's quite possible to be ethical, honest, and kind while still being a successful business man. I try to be that way, Duane also appears to follow those principles. Rabid dog tactics are one thing that makes businesses look poor in the public's eye. CashCall comes to mind.
I've clearly taken it a little too personally so I'm going to follow in Honestly Wondering's footsteps. I'm done with work for the day so it's time to go upstairs (I work in an office downstairs), open a nice bottle of wine and watch a good movie with my wife. I'll check in tomorrow or Monday to see what's up with y'all (Duane-ism there :) )
6:08p Paraiba: It's very bad business to partner up with a known liar and thief.
No argument, but to be fair, at the time it happened LMP needed to find that out firsthand. I was one of the people who publicly warned him against it. I imagine that in his line of work, he hears the "known liar and thief" line a lot.
As far as any of us know, he cut the line once he had firsthand evidence.
6:08pm Edgar: That's an artful dodge.
No, that's how confidential information is handled in the business world.
In my line of work, I deal with NDAs all the time. A big part of working with confidential materials is defining what they are; this isn't a priest-confessional relationship we're talking about here, where anything LMP learns is considered sacredly confidential. Defining conditionality obligation is what an NDA is *for*.
LMP isn't legally or even ethically obligated to hold anything from Casey in confidence except what was offered to him in confidence within their professional relationship. Once the relationship ended, so did any ongoing confidentiality obligation on LMP's part. Even under an NDA, that obligation wouldn't last forever.
Good riddance to Mark a/k/a LossMitPro. What a joke this clown turned out to be. I knew he was just trying to ride IAFF's coattails.
As dispicable as Casey Serin may be, LMP stooped below Casey's level. Casey is cunning; he knew exactly which buttons to press--and then stepped back to let LMP self-destruct in front of all of us.
"Not yet, but the second he can pull it off, he will."
I don't think he will be able to pull it off. I'm sure he thinks he can, but I don't see it happening ever again for him. Not after this.
Moreover, I don't believe he has all that money in his account either. I think a lot of people are suffering from confirmation bias over this whole saga. The plain fact is that he is a pathological liar; but some people discount that if he says something that fits their internal narrative about the whole "casey serin story", and so choose to take some of his statements as gospel truth. In light of everything we know about him - the fantasies, the lies, &c. - that's not a very realistic approach towards him.
Like I said, I am prepared for the big reveal where he turns out to be the next lex luthor, but I don't see it happening. (But if it happens, I will post a mea culpa).
Though, you'll just never convince me that he is public enemy number one in the whole 'sweet' cashback dealio .
"LMP isn't legally or even ethically obligated to hold anything from Casey in confidence except what was offered to him in confidence within their professional relationship. Once the relationship ended, so did any ongoing confidentiality obligation on LMP's part. Even under an NDA, that obligation wouldn't last forever."
Casey is a mark, a fool that keeps believing the sharks of the world who approach him to sell him on sweet deals. He probably believed Mark telling him... "Casey, I'm here to help you pro-bono. I can negotiate your debt down to pennies for the dollar. I've done this for 20 years. Your lenders will negotiate with me or I'll suit them. Just give me your business documents and I'll negotiate on your behalf. We don't need an NDA. You can trust in me."
And our crooked snowflake felt for that too. What a fool! You'd think he'd know by now not to trust in people, but... It's all good.
And since this is supposedly a thready thing about RAH, I'll share a piece of advice he gave which let me live my life in a happy and productive manner.
At 6:40 PM, GoodbyeForeclosure said... LMP the attention whore.
Good riddance to Mark a/k/a LossMitPro. What a joke this clown turned out to be. I knew he was just trying to ride IAFF's coattails.
As dispicable as Casey Serin may be, LMP stooped below Casey's level. Casey is cunning; he knew exactly which buttons to press--and then stepped back to let LMP self-destruct in front of all of us.
And you are?
Some people don't get the hint. The problem was the same comments repeated ad nauseum from on post charlies. Now we've got drive by sniping from one post charlies who register a different name for the effort.
To the very few trolls. Multiple personalities does not qualify you for a bulk discount. We've been tolerant of the passive agressiver but the sheer repetition is lower than anything you have against the people you refuse to stop accusing.
When I do something (or have something done for me) its a do/get it done.
Casey needs to be taken out of the real estate/investment game for 5 years at least, for his own good.
You can argue Mark may be or play dirty but he's the only (visible) game in town to get Casey down.
Personally I don't think Casey will ever pull off a (legit) big money deal again.. Its like I said on the fraudcast last night, he may truely have the desire to pay off his debt, he lacks the ability. As soon as he has money he's going to "invest" it in something, he isnt going to pool it to start some big deal.
Howver I do believe he will likely get a large infusion eventually either a partner/buyout of the blog (he mentioned this last night suggesting he had something in the works) or a deep pocketed supporter so its possible, who knows.
Regardless of the amount, from his track record he's going to pick the investment available to him with the highest advertised payback for the least amount of work, in other words a scam.
And no I dont believe he has all that money in his account. From the JV agreement he owes Marty have everything he makes off the blog.
6:44pm Costa: Casey is a mark, a fool that keeps believing the sharks of the world who approach him to sell him on sweet deals.
Heh. Years ago, one of my first solid clients was a corporate negotiation consultant. He made a very nice living from training his clients to wrangle the best contracts they could. I learned a lot from the guy that helped me better negotiate positions with my own corporate clients.
One point he was always adamant about is that no matter how much people talk win-win, only a fool sacrifices before they have to, and both sides should and are always angling for self-interest. You can usually find a constructive, mutually beneficial middle ground, but only an idiot tries to negotiate from both sides of the table.
Casey can't figure that out. He's quite possibly the worst business negotiator I've ever seen; one bright, shiny object waved in his eyes and he's signing away firstborn children. Then he pretends like the contract didn't mean anything.
Like the song goes, it don't mean nothing until you sign it on the dotted line. Only the contract matters; everything else is marketing. Casey's failure to understand that is his fatal flaw.
And the CaseyPedia transcription effort continues.
I just did Sebastian's drilling on the serin.com emails, and it seems to me that he got so close: Casey admits that anna@serin.com is an alias that goes directly to him, but then he clams up with the "house rules" argument.
The real question is: why is he anna@serin.us? Why is he pretending to be his mother? Gotta be Hammar-related, got to be fishy as all hell.
I understand that you want certainty about casey. Frankly though, for me, I'm confident enough that it is all going to come back and haunt him badly so I don't worry about the minute possibility that he might come up all smelling of strippers. (Or roses, I suppose, him being a good christian an all).
And I do hope he gets the book thrown at him at some point.
Thing of it is, though, I've never been comfortable with selective non -enforcement of the law. So I don't like this lawsuit crusade. At all.
Of course, if lost mittens is using this as a vehicle to go after the appraisers, the lenders, the brokers and all those other people that benefited from serin, then I will take it all back.
But, just singling out casey (and marty)? Not so much for me.
Do you see where I - and others - are coming from?
Let's assume Casey did not want to be purposely 'grey', 'shady', 'nefarious', or 'criminal'.
I think his problem is that when he hears about the totality of a scheme, say, 'flipping'; that there is a distressed property... that it can be fixed up... that people would be willing to buy it... that money can be made on this operation...
Well, he can see this in his mind's eye, wants to be involved, and like a puppy dog, wants to get the game underway right away -- throw the ball, and let me chase that shiny thing.
What he never does, and seems incapable of doing is a PERSONAL evaluation of cost versus benefit on HIS end. Noticve he has never been able or tried as far as I can see) to articulate what value HE brings to these situations. That is what made his pipe dream of a gazillion dollar casino deal so ludicrous -- what the heck would anyone on either end of that transaction need mop-top for? Puhlease! Yet he gets 'juiced' mentally by being near the action, knowing that money will change hands and real businessmen will be involved in doing very adult things like wearing suits, saying 'arbitrage' and knuckle bumping over a successful sweet deal going down. Only Casey is the mark everytime that he is allowed to sit at the poker table. Why else would they let him sit down, for crying out loud? He is a rube, a mark, a pigeon. And like those that want to con and get conned, he feels a twisted loyalty to the very ones who took him, as if by just staying near the action, he will gain competency - no not competency, magic by osmosis, and he will have 'arrived'. No plan, no assessment, just hang in there and fake it 'til ya make it.
Well, Murse Boi, how's that working for ya so far?
Homeless man with a laptop. No wife. No job. No income. Law coming soon. Universally reviled.
actually no I don't at least not with those points.
And thats unusual I'm of two minds on pretty much anything.
For instance I view LMP's lawsuit 2 ways
1. I hope that he takes Casey down, hard. At this point it seems the only way Casey is going to learn is if he hits rock bottom so hard he bounces..twice.
2. It scares me that someone can get a court order of any substance without the defense even having a chance to prepare a proper defense.
I think we are a society that is overly prone to turning to the courts. I don't like it, and I'm 34 and have never been in a court room (except for a single traffic matter).
I don't think Mark intends to go after anyone hard except Casey, Marty is in this because of his dealing with Casey but Mark hasn't show much interest in the Marty side of the matter.
Actually I expect if law enforcement ever does get involved they will "flip" Casey (ironic I guess) so that the brokers/lenders/realtors that made this all possible take the fall. If that happens Casey will learn nothing.
"2. It scares me that someone can get a court order of any substance without the defense even having a chance to prepare a proper defense."
Well you can't. So don't worry about it. Hence the "temporary" in temporary restraining order.
And mark can pretend like he has no interest in marty whatsoever, but marty is on the caption, isn't he? Mark could have left it up to casey to implead marty as a necessary party, had he so chosen. He really didn't have to name marty at all if he wanted just to go after casey. (Likewise all the does).
But that aside, Lost mittens lawsuit has been touted as an attempt to get law enforcement interested in casey. That's the bit I object to.
(Well, apart from the apparent failure to state a cause of action type thing).
But, reasonable people can differ. It's all part of the rich tapestry of democracy &c.
7:40pm soem dood: He is a rube, a mark, a pigeon. And like those that want to con and get conned, he feels a twisted loyalty to the very ones who took him, as if by just staying near the action, he will gain competency - no not competency, magic by osmosis, and he will have 'arrived'. No plan, no assessment, just hang in there and fake it 'til ya make it.
That's the NPD again. I've heard my own NPD use the words "fake it til ya make it" more times than I care to remember, second only to "perception is 100%" (his way of saying that perception is reality).
I don't think Casey *can* make the cost-benefit evaluation. He has an inherent need, right down to his atomic structure, to see himself as important and worthy of admiration by the select elite. Call it Illuminatitus.
Getting a W2 job or anything else like it (such as actually starting and maintaining a real business) smacks of being common. Forgettable. It doesn't make him feel important. That makes him a sucker for every "secret to success" that comes along, and it's just going to keep getting worse - the more he fails, the more he'll dream about "showing them all" with the next roll of the dice. He's going to spend his life buying time until the Big Score, damn everyone else.
Like I said, my own NPD has been this way for as long as I can remember - at least 30 years. To this day, despite repeated failure, he firmly believes that MLM is a legitimate way to riches. He sees absolutely no relationship between his income and his expenses. He's currently embarking on his own self-publishing endeavor, and has already told me that the primary goal there is to make people look up to him. Meanwhile, he's wreaked an amazing amount of damage on the people around him.. and he doesn't care, because that fact doesn't make him feel important.
He's Casey, plus 40 years, and most likely the reason I can't let go of this story. To a certain degree, I'm Steve Serin myself. I really feel for the guy.
Casey has no problem being "shady", as long as he figures that the elite are as well. Just one more reason why he's important, unless the rest of us Haterz.
But, I guess I understand why you don't want anyone pointing out how bizarre the crap here is.
But, it is your sandbox and your toys.
Some people just think they can bite down on vagary of language and shout "It doesn't always mean exactly what you say so you are wrong!" and life is too short to deal with people who live in worlds behind walls.
There was a prblem with the link on my screen. My but it didn't take long for the passive agressive act to start to fray.
Good lord...the latest post at IAFF makes me want to puke. He (and his new butt buddy) still insist upon describing scams, MLMs, Ponzi schemes, Pyramid schemes, flipping, penny stock speculating, and all other forms of get rich schemes as "entrepreneurship". They don't have an entrepreneurial bone in their bodies. They are lazy and will waste insane amounts of time, other peoples' money, and peoples' lives in their pursuit of that easy dollar.
ROFL! The "problem" with the link is you don't like people pointing out how good this stuff makes Casey look.
I am a haterz from way back before it had a tm on it. But, this are getting strange when Casey looks reasonable and LMP et al are ranting and screaming at the top of their lungs.
Edgar, AKA Mort said... You speak in riddles Rob Dawg, but you never come out and plainly state anything. You claim to shut trolls down but you are the most thin skinned blogger I have ever seen. You can not stand criticism of yourself or anyone you esteem. You twist the truth to your own purpose. Come now, say one thing as it were without a mouthful of marbles.
Hellooooo?? The lawsuit is obvious. Mark wants the only asset that Casey has. He wants to own IAFF. He's wanted it from the beginning, come on now why would he volunteer to work with a Criminal like Casey to begin with.He wants the domain and he's trying to scare Casey so he'll settle for it out of court.
IAFF comment: "Come on, Casey, you got TWELVE sweetlinks open. It just looks bad, man, like there's no demand. Stick a link to my blog on one (for free, of course).... no, wait, I have TWO domains.
Stick my domains on TWO links, give the others away for free to other discrete guys like me and then you can claim that there's sold-out and raise the rates for the OTHER adverstisers.
That way you can make up for the monthly fee that I won't be paying. It's no illegal, man. It's... it's being enterpreneurial!"
I'm inflexible, for his own good I think Casey needs to be taken down, completely.
That doesnt mean I hate the kid or that in 10 years I want to see him living on the streets (or even divorced)
Just that I think he's been given enough chances and its time he learns that actions have consequences. Subtle didn't work, so now brute force is required. Once he has learned them (if he had a "come to Jesus" moment tommorrow I would be thrilled actually, skeptical, but thrilled.)
The converse is a common flaw (in my opinion) with culture today that everything "is all good" that mistakes should be overlooked and no consequences should be faced. That society as a whole has a duty to cover and take care of those poor souls who won't help themselves.
I know thats not everyones opinion and I respect that.
Once he has learned his lessons hopefully he will become the success he wishes. Hell I hope he becomes the business owner he pretends to be now. I think he would make one hell of a car salesman for one. He's young, the sooner the intervention happens the better.
For the record won't lose any sleep if Casey gets away with all his past crimes. I think it would be stupid for LE to do so but that's a different story. No, Casey has to be stopped because he won't stop on his own. It really is that simple.
I'm inflexible, for his own good I think Casey needs to be taken down, completely.
That doesnt mean I hate the kid or that in 10 years I want to see him living on the streets (or even divorced)
Just that I think he's been given enough chances and its time he learns that actions have consequences. Subtle didn't work, so now brute force is required. Once he has learned them (if he had a "come to Jesus" moment tommorrow I would be thrilled actually, skeptical, but thrilled.)
The converse is a common flaw (in my opinion) with culture today that everything "is all good" that mistakes should be overlooked and no consequences should be faced. That society as a whole has a duty to cover and take care of those poor souls who won't help themselves.
I know thats not everyones opinion and I respect that.
I absolutely agree with everything you've just stated. 100% agree.
There is info that will validate both Mark and Duane's temper loss last night. This info can't be released yet due to the sources wishing to be protected. The trolls on here villify Mark for losing his cool and for Mark, Duane, and Rob holding their tongues. There is a reason Mark is going about things the way he is. Those with enough sense, can see it as the gambit that it is. The clues are all out there, put them together. It's like a massive game of doubles pool. Except Casey doesn't have as many partners.
I think someone dropped a rock on Piggy.
Either way, even if the truth never fully comes out, no matter how much you all attack those with more backbone, Casey will pay for his crimes. READ MY WORDS, HE WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL. Anyone who associates with him will suffer from his emotional usury.
A lot of you forget to quickly that our system of justice, while not perfect, is a beautiful beast. There are about a dozen or so lenders who have reason to sue Casey. Not all will give up.
What part of Casey's family contacted Duane, he didn't initiate contact with them, are you having difficulty understanding? They call Duane, not the other way around. Capiche?
And how long have you been on the Snowflake train ride?
You keep overlooking the fact that the engineer's wife and family called the "enemy" because they were concerned about how the engineer wasn't paying attention to the rules of the tracks despite several written and oral warnings including a forced temporary revocation of privileges.
The "enemy" didnt call looking for the story it came to them.
The engineers family doesnt want anyone else (or the engineer) to get hurt in the inevitable accident they're hoping for a forced derailment in a non-populated area.
Boy does it take a long time to catch up on reading when you miss a day. Several thought on today’s action:
1. Mark does not have anything hidden for his lawsuit. He is unable to keep quiet and needs to show how effective he is. The criticism he would have shown some valid reason for the suit if there was any. My memory (and I could easily be wrong) was that he was originally threatening the haterz. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes and LE hopefully is getting involved, but it has nothing to do with Marks suit. 2. Anyone who says you need to act the way Mark did to stay in business, is not very successful in business. Mark has probably spent 10 to 20 times the effort on the lawsuit than Casey. And if the suit is as weak as it appears to be, Mark is going to pay for Casey’s lawyer. Most business people learn to avoid trouble and cut losses relatively early. 3. Casey may be too addlebrained to get a lawyer, in which case Mark ends up owning IAFF. This is a long shot. It may take Casey too much effort to open mail, if it relates to a short sale or meeting some commitment, but if it relates to his own interests, Casey can be quite active. 4. If Mark has purchased some of Casey’s debt, I take back every mean thing I have ever said. If he owns actual Casey debt, rather than made up Casey debt, he has a legitimate reason to be in court. 5. To extend point 4 further, If Rob wants to purchase some of Casey’s debt, I will donate money. I suspect others will as well. I suspect Casey debt can be purchased very cheaply if someone knows the process, and or contacts to do so. It does not even need to be big debt. It only has to be big enough that you can put a lean on IAFF and take ownership as repayment. 6. People are merging Duane and Mark and tarring them both. THIS IS WRONG. I disagree with Marks lawsuit because I have not seen any legitimate reason for it. Duane has been nothing but a standup guy. 7. The comment 192 lawyer guy could very easily be a train wreck watcher and the LMP lawsuit was a wonderful munitions car for us train wreck watchers. I suspect it increased the ratings of both IAFF and EN. 8. If you ever watch Judge Judy, every 3rd case is some unemployed bum leeching off a woman, so Casey’s ethics aren’t that rare. The only thing unusual about Casey is him blogging about it.
I must be missing something with this corporate credit scam. I own a Nevada "C" shelf corp, have had it since '02, but when I applied for a credit line via my bank they not only wanted the TIN number but also my personal SS#, and they looked at the bank balance in the corp account. Not to mention that developing corporate credit is very similar to developing personal credit; instead of a FICO score kept by the three big reporting agencies, corporations get a rating from Moody's or S&P based upon the same parameters that natural persons deal with: debt/income ratio, track record with creditors, and so forth. Anyone who thinks it's just a matter of creating a corp then getting instant credit is fooling himself.
I just had to catchup reading the last few threads.
First and foremost, I will state PUBLICALLY that Mark, You have my full support and confidence.
At this point, your decision to move forward with your litigation with snowflake is a sound decision.
I am surprised you were able to contain your frustration and rage with casey this long. Duane also reached the point to where his bullshit and lies spilled over.
You both are correct that if everyone knew the whole story they would hate this little bastard as much as we do.
I do not even know the full story, but I know more than most people and I just get more complacent with each passing day this little thief is allowed to operate in freedom.
The amount of victims he has is growing, and there are allot more that the public does not know about.
When he abused his familial relationships, it showed that he has the desperation of a meth addict stealing from their own family to fuel their own addiction.
BUT it goes much farther than that.
You all might notice the recent pointings to the SETH RAMIT email he sent. Also please note the posting he did awhile back asking anyone if they want to make some moolah using their good credit to finance deals. And casey says HAHAH just kidding, well maybe (paraphrased).
LOOK closely at the above parapraph. The list of people thrown under the bus on caseypedia will be added to in the future.
Now onto the little fuckers that seem to take pleasure in mark leaving:
You do a disservice to JUSTICE. I know some of you are Trollz and some of you are directly linked to "marty's assistants". It's amazing when something like this is perceived as a victory to your side, when I receive emails from allot of different people of which some of them give a small glimpse of what casey is up to.
You are all a bunch of pathetic little parasites that are trying to fuel dissention among the people that oppose casey and his fraudelent acitivites.
Casey's most recent post about being a serial entrepenuer makes me want to puke. He is a thief, a scammer, a con-man, a hippocrite, a liar, a failure at all business he has ever had contact with, a failure as a husband, a failure as a son, a failure as a brother, and a failure as a ETHICAL PRODUCTIVE human being.
Mark, I am sad to see you taking a break from EN. But in the end, it is problably what is best. We will see you when you get done running this little bastard through the court system.
In the coming months, the rest of you will see allot of information come out about casey, and you will see exactly what he is. A SERIAL FRAUD.
And you will see the bullshit spin he puts on it along with trollz spreading disinformation and misdirection away from the facts.
Now that being said,
I have received 1 email in regards to when casey was in the Portland area regarding a deal. I do not know if it is bullshit and a troll, but I will be looking into it first thing Monday morning.
I would encourage anyone with information regarding casey (even if you spotted him outside of a real estate office, looking at a property, any type of info you can give me..an address of a house he looked at ..anything.
I would encourage you to email me at c_h_j_t_s@yahoo.com. Unlike Marty, I do have a huuuuge rolodex of Real Estate Proffesionals in my city and will make sure any deal casey was involved in here or potential deal can pass the above board/smell test.
Anyone else, you can contact me at the above email address.
Regards,
SHARK
PS next haterzcast was going to be on Tuesday but it is in conflict with a medical appointment I have...so a new time will be announced sometime.
The problem with Mark's lawsuit is it turns haterz into supporterz. Everything we have seen on it says it is a baseless lawsuit and when we support it we are supporting another nutcase doing Casey style actions just because he is on ourside.
@ Relentless -- I think he would make one hell of a car salesman for one.
Casey: This new model goes for $23,000... but, because you're a supporterz™, I'll give you a sweet deal. You can buy it for $25K, and I'll give you $2K cash back at close which you can use for repairs. Then flip the car next year -- it'll probably be worth $30K by then, auto prices always go up!
I am surprised you were able to contain your frustration and rage with casey this long. Duane also reached the point to where his bullshit and lies spilled over
WHAT I MEANT TO TYPE IS duane also reached the point to where caseys bullshit make him go over the edge with frustration witha all of CASEYS BULLSHIT AND LIES.
Mark I can kick your ass. I've seen your picture and you are a tiny little wimp. If you even tried to lay a finger on Casey I would kick the living shit out of you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pleather murse... THAT is where Casey's mother comes in...signs are he (allegedly) got her as a cosigner for his corp. You see, he tapped out & ruined (allegedly) his wife's credit ages ago. It's also (allegedly) why Mom had to be named in the lawsuit.
The troll was to pathetic to consider as an actual impersonation of Rob. I may disagree with some of Rob's stances, but he has intelligence and thought behind them. This troll wouldn't even understand the 3 sylable words I use.
I have, only a few clicks ago, found a small error in the CASEYPEDIA entry for Tim from MBA. The article indicates Tim was not heard from again after his emotional barrage and subsequent apologies. In fact, he made one reserved post much after those events. One understands that the minuscule post I have directed you could be overlooked easily. For one, the concision in uncharacteristic of the author, and two, the sequence of letters MBA is of limited use in queries, as it appears frequently in the form of JAMBA.
It is right that this early contributor be recognized in The CASEYPEDIA. Might one draw a comparisons between that man and SERCASEY, evident immediately are the inverse degrees of meticulously. But I wonder if I am alone in the following postulation which ultimately favors SERCASEY: Tim's bloviating - and I write that respectfully as fellow gregariator - and repetition made me speculate on the sensitivity of his interpersonal skills, or rather his aloofness and seeming unawares of Casey's indifference to his advice. Though knowing TFMBA's professional experience, I may be interposing particular Asbergerian stereotypes common to that field onto this evaluation. Yet, his later destructive denouement maybe supports this notion- that is, that Casey's instinctual charm is one quality he has in greater abundance than the former contributor under examination.
Don't deal with these people. I've already concluded it's not worth my time or energy. They love Casey and will do anything to take the heat off of him.
Edgar, Regardless of any possible merits to any of your questions or comments the general feeling is that it isn't worth the effort based on past attempts. Sorry.
Oh, and try not to ask "when did you stop beating your wife" type questions.
to the other robdawg,
You don't see a problem with being so ashamed of your own self that you feel the need to try and ineptly impersonate someone you claim to disdain?
It's all about creating cover for Casey. He'll say it isn't, but he proves to me he is doing that very thing.
Those who are now picking on Duane because Mark left are not paying attention to the guy. Seems some have their priorities wrong...unless those priorities include attacking people who have done NOTHING but state an opinion (you, me, other posters).
That kind of shit proves to me this is about causing confusion and backbiting among regular posters here.
We know you read here. And you must be piddling yourself with glee right now seeing the dissent in the forum.
I am sure your mind is seeing this as the Haterz feeding on each other & full of dissent, becoming Haterz of Haterz.
Once again - WRONG. Debate is healthy & we may not all agree with each other's tactics but one thing we all agree? You're a menace, a fraud & a loozer.
.... That's just me trying to nip any posts by you & your dwindling fanz club.
Just like any other successful businessman. C'mon people...sheesh.
So when you shop in a Whole Foods do you realize they are buying their immediate competition to make more money?
When you shop at Target or Wal Mart, do you realize those companies are notorious for doing many things that keeps the bottom line as low as possible?
Disney is notorious for their bottom line practices.
Many successful businesses make money. Why shouldn't Duane? From what I've seen there is nothing about him that even reeks of hurting people. If you can prove me wrong, please do. I doubt you will because I've researched Duane before I decided to email him. I made a huge mistake assuming he was something he wasn't and he set me straight. Funny thing, when I emailed him back I had done my homework and felt he was the real deal (who he represents himself as).
He admits he wanted some SEO out of Casey. In return he'd PAY Casey to host his sponsorship and that Casey would go and negotiate with his creditors. Guess what? You know the story after that.
You mean people really waste time registering numerous names to make it look like they are different people. LOL and those idiots say we have no lives.
That is pretty pathetic. Guess they don't have any faith in their message or they know it's extremely hard to defend a fuck up like Casey, but they try anyway.
"He admits he wanted some SEO out of Casey. In return he'd PAY Casey to host his sponsorship and that Casey would go and negotiate with his creditors. Guess what? You know the story after that. "
And how he's in the gig to do the right thing? Front Casey for being a swindler? Help one side and then going to the other after Casey "burned" him".
I'm saying....Duane will play both sides of the boards.
Look him in the eye and ask him if he would burn you. Look Casey in the eye and ask if he would burn you.
Bottom line both will do what they need to make "SWEET" cash.
Notice how when LMP decides to take a hiatus to concentrate on his pending litigation against the multiple mortgage serial fraudster casey serin, how the trollz now turn to try and discredit duane.
You are a pathetic spineless coward. ALl of those questions you ask have already been covered and answered. Its amazing how you have to try with the disinformatio nand propaganda technique that we have come to expect out of caseys camp.
Duane and Lossmit are stand up MEN. They are stepping up and doing something productive regarding this conman scamartist wife deserter casey serin.
Unlike yourself, that has to go around posting on a haterzblog regarding your hero snowflake.
It is amazing how much PR control marty and his fuckups have been in since his super secret JV agreement was exposed for the crock of shit and scam it is.
Bemused, Edgar is not a single person and they are long time involved now with a recently renewed strong interest in making sure no more damaging information comes out.
They are trying to cloud every issue and attack anyone who threatens to expose their involvement.
Don't believe me. Look for yourself at the quantity and depth and resources called upon to press their disinformation campaign. Look at the various styles, the varied lines of attack, the occasional post that seemingly ignores past exchanges.
I'll try but the one or two posters pretending to be many are getting boring.
I will continue to slip facts in here when I see the need :)
Shark: We know he's many of the personas that have very similar posting styles. I think we are whistling in the wind. They love to make it personal. Why don't they just admit they love Casey and see nothing wrong with one thing he's done. If they did that, I'd have a little respect for him/them.
We know they have questionable ethics or else they wouldn't try to make this about other people.
If it's not fact there sure are a lot of folks willing to overlook Casey's ethics. That's freaking sad.
I don't mind if somebody has issues with Duane and Mark, they are big boys who can handle their business. I only point out facts to counter the ones that take it to extreme lows.
Edgar AKA Mort: Why did you delete a bunch of your earlier posts on this thread? I'm certainly not complaining because it's less drivel to have to scroll through, but I was just curious...
At the time, Duane doesn't deny this. He thought he could HELP Casey. If I had come to IAFF around the time Duane did, I'd most likely believe Casey at first by looking at all the hater posts (It looked like maybe he was being picked on if you didn't know better).
I believe Duane slowly realized that not only was being associated with Casey bad for business, it was Casey's lack of follow through that put him off for good.
I will take Duane's word that he saw a business opportunity, didn't understand the extent of the hate for Casey and found out the hard way and backed off when Casey ignored his requests to settle his debts.
Again, we can disagree and I am fine with that. What I am saying is that Duane is not the bad guy he is being painted as.
I don't think Casey has a case to argue if buying 8 houses on no doc loans was the right thing to do.
Casey is guilty in my book.
Also, I would say that people who most recently decided to involve themselves into his scheme have decided to make money off his unfortunate opportunities.
They are his web of things....and making their buck...
Don't act like people can't see through this sh@t.
Mort, go choke on pinklips tranny manhood will ya.
Duane has already on multiple occasions CLEARLY stated what his deal with casey was and He went into GREAT DETAIL regarding it.
Let me say this again since your obviously thickheaded and slow to absorb information.
DUANE has fully disclosed his entire business relationship with casey.
Do you got that?
Now we can sit here and argue back and forth on the internet, that is fine....not really my style but that is fine.
In person I am actually a man of little words. If someone like yourself says things like you do to my face....I dont talk it out or talk about it.
Now that being said, we can continue with our rants back and forth to each other because the bottom line is you wouldnt get two words out of your mouth if you were standing in front of me.
So let me say in advance so you will have to think of a better response:
1. YEP I am a psycho. 2. Yep I have what others would call anger management issues. 3. Yep, I am an internet tough guy (care to find out?). 4. Nope, my anger has never gotten me in trouble with the law. 5. Yes I am an ubalanced asshole.
Why did [Edgar] delete a bunch of your earlier posts on this thread?
Because the story line was getting confusing with so many authors and they got new orders to lay off Mark and witch to Duane. Gee now who would be so hot on Mark up and only up to the point he says he's laying low?
I don't question that you think he's guilty. I am just trying to post a counterpoint argument about Duane and LMP from my own experiences. What's done is done, it's time to hold the real villain here accountable. HE knows he's guilty but sees an opportunity to strike back at two people who got too close.
If you are referring to me that I am acting like I don't think people can see through "shit," I don't know what you are talking about. To infer that implies I think you are stupid. If I thought that, I'd say it. I try to be "naked" and "organic" but I do a better job than flipturd.
Why weren't you fEckers at the Capitol Garage to face Casey?
No one showed up...just me..and another hater.
That was it...I think most people who have been here for at least "three" months can understand the situation.
So either put up or show up at the Casey pitchfork crusificion.
And anytime you want my number you have it. No one was willing to accept my pictures when I was taking them!!!!! Technology is a bitch but I was there.
When I posted earlier I was frustrated. Taking a step back made me realize it's a game to them and they are very bad at it.
They don't seem to get that when you waste time creating posting IDs with established poster names, that they better do a kick ass imitation or they get outted.
It's cool. I know who's naughty and I know who's for real. I sometimes will not visit the blog for a couple days at a time, so when I finally logged in after a day and a half, this afternoon, I saw tons of posts but didn't realize the extent of the trolling until I came back later.
Michael: It's not like everyone knew days in advance where Casey was going to be for the Fraudcast and could make arrangements to attend. I could be wrong, but I think many Haterz have commitments outside of EN (gasp) that make it difficult to drop everything at a moment's notice. No need to lose any respect for anyone.
FWIW, I was on the lookout for lesser-spotted Casey appearances when he was in the Portland area. Sadly, none were forthcoming.
I L M S, Regarding your 10:17 PM, I did consider including that Tim MBA post yet the writing style seemed quite different from the typical Tim comment. The most obvious red flag was the uncharacteristic brevity. You don't believe it's a troll?
I lost a lot respect for people on this blog, including RobDawg.
From 400 miles away it is a bit difficult. There is also a delicate balance managing the mob rule you think is being fomented. Everyone plays a part.
At this point any identified haterz™ engaging in person would play into Casey's latest disinformation attempts at portraying him as a victim being stalked rather than a criminal trying to hide.
I was at work, preparing to leave, looking at EN when a commenter noted KC was at Capitol Garage. It happens to be on my way home. I happened to have the time. And I debated whether to go - I most certainly don't want to stalk KC and though I was very tempted to step on his foot, I didn't. I am still not certain that going there was the right thing to do or whether I am proud of it. ANd I am certainly not going to be critical of anyone choosing to stay home rather than ogle a deluded homeless individual in need of a haircut.
I am proud, however, that M SINGH left a comment on my blog!
Our people are getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan yet we are supposed to research CashCall and support an asinine lawsuit to put that "dangerous" criminal Casey Serin behind bars. Or else we are trolls, Casey lovers, malibox bashers, enablers. Or have to put up with bullshit and pure vileness like CHJTS - " Now onto the little fuckers that seem to take pleasure in mark leaving: You do a disservice to JUSTICE."
What the fuck ever. This place has become ridiculous - let Casey's parents and wife deal with him,as well as the appropriate creditors. Law enforcement if they feel it is justified. The witchhunt for Casey Serin is being fueled on this blog in order to get more viewers. A scrawny kid blogging from a restaurant that all of us should keep a gun under our pillows to protect ourselves from - give me a fuckin break already. And some of you posters like CHJTS act like you can't get a good nights sleep until Casey "Charles Manson " Serin is behind bars.
Frankly Rob Dawg I don't give two shits about investigating CashCall - adults should be accountable for their own actions. If you have that much time to waste use your literary talents to appeal to the overfed politicians to get our men and women at the very least body armor and vehicles that will protect them against IEDS and RPGS. Casey hasn't killed anyone, is very likely not to kill anyone, so direct your resources to people that really need it. Same for you Duane and CHJTS. Your modern day vigilantism has worn thin - turn off the computer and go back to your lives. The 15 minutes of fame is addictive, eh?? Now CHJTS is gonna be on HOW many times this week - 3? On HIS show doing it HIS way as he keeps reminding everyone? Dude, you have really jumped the shark. And make sure your wife knows about the 2G you are promising to someone you have never met.
Peace Out and I am outta here for good - got much better things to do with my time.
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Must!
Trust a stranger from a strange land to get both first and murst on this thread.
NR
Trust a moron to not spell murst properly. Oh well, it's all sweet.
NR
Starship Troopers is one of my favorite books. The Algebraist, by Iain Banks, is very good, too.
well I for one do not know what a MUST is.
Therefore I claim THE MURST of this thread for myself.
MURST BIATCHES
So Rob, when do you stop jerking us around and start dropping your "bombs"? Who or what are you trying to protect that hasn't been exposed?
I'd swear you're just stringing us along for ad revenue, but there are no ads on your site.
I'm not trolling, but I'm getting tired of checking this site everyday only to read that things are still being "verified". I'm sure I'm not the only one around here.
My favorite Heinlein comment:
A Human Being should be able to:
--Change a diaper
--Plan an invasion
--Butcher a hog
--Conn a ship
--Design a building
--Write a sonnet
--Balance accounts
--Build a wall
--Set a bone
--Comfort the dying
--Take orders
--Give orders
--Cooperate
--Act alone
--Solve equations
--Analyze a new problem
--Pitch manure
--Program a computer
--Cook a tasty meal
--Fight efficiently
--Die gallantly
Specialization is for insects…
-Robert A. Heinlein
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/07/us/07sale.html
HEY CASEY, theres a whole town north of Sacramento that has had 2 EBAY owners...
the last owner committed suicide, looks like you can try to flip it.
maybe appoint yourself mayor!
you'd be better than a house flipper you can be a TOWNFLIPPER!
Rob,
Thanks for the tribute to RAH.
He introduced me to sci-fi, and I believe help mold my young mind. Themes that still resonate with me:
- government is not the solution
- strong, independent minded, action prone, individuals are the solution
- kick ass first, then take names [Lazarus on the frontier taking care of the drifters who decided they'd take over his homestead and wife]
- women are not wilting flowers - they can be strong, too
(I try to forget the pervy, incest themes that ruined his later books)
TANSTAAFL - "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
@Seb
"I'm not trolling, but I'm getting tired of checking this site everyday only to read that things are still being "verified". I'm sure I'm not the only one around here."
I have a suggestion for you. Checking back every other day may not be as tiring.
lossmit..how about an update on pinklips ...did she email you her contact information yet?
After listening to Mark on both the Fraudcast and the late night Hatercast - he needs to take his anger management problems and move on down the road. Sounds like he was personally vested in Casey and didn't get what he wanted in return. Everything else is bullshit. The constant alluding to the fact that you couldn't say anything because of the "LAWSUIT" was ridiculous - you couldn't even say how much education you had because it would be it the "lawsuit??? What exactly is in that lawsuit, Mark??? I think you are trying to play us all for fools, and I am so very tired of you. You said last night, "Suffice it to say, my case just doubled in strength tonight!" How by threatening the defendant? Yeah right, Matlock.
You have taken a lot of credit for helping out Galina but then admitted last night that you haven't even spoken to her since June 17
You know that Galina will be implicated in this lawsuit. What's the REAL reason that you told Galina that on June 17 you have to terminate "your business relationship?" What business contract did you have with Galina??? Never mind - I don't want to hear your bullshit answer. You are playing that poor woman too. Stop the bullshit again. You are a wannabe attorney throwing around a much of legalese that you don't even understand. The explanation that you gave for the screwup in how you worded the lawsuit was more bullshit.
Mark, when Casey takes a copy of last night's podcast and plays it for the judge you are burnt toast. You are violent and abusive. Now you are going to sue everyone that offers to support Casey financially?? When the judge hears the passion in your voice, how you talked "spirituality" with Casey for FIVE hours just a few weeks ago, then got angry with him so decided to sue him for revenge and now are threatening to go for his fucking throat - it will be YOU that he issues the restraining order against. Sounds like a freakin lovers quarrel gone bad. You need to move away from this story and concentrate on other things. I was laughing my ass off at you last night - a professional businessman DOES NOT conduct himself in the manner that you did. You are going to ruin your reputation if you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.
The fact that you said the FIVE hour phone call was about "spirituality" and how "productive" it was blew my mind. Did you get Casey to believe in God or start going to church? I call BULLSHIT!!! When's the last time you went to church Mark? You and Casey deserve each other - just what were you willing to negotiate with Casey before he blew you off last week - especially if he owes you "lots of money" Bullshit!!! I think you are as addicted to the attention as Casey is - who are you trying to kid?
The screaming last night you did that Casey owed you a LOT of money - that is why you are suing him - to get YOUR money back was a revelation. Why does Casey need to pay you back - for what?? What services did you provide or products did you sell to justify suing him for 10 large? You knew exactly who you were getting in bed with when you began this financially motivated attention seeking little adventure. Remember lobbing lawsuit threats at EN from across at Casey's camp? Now you are saying that HE made you "look like a chump"???? You had already done that to yourself by associating with him. You said that the reason you were suing Casey was because he made you "look like a chump", and he owed you "lots of money". I thought this lawsuit was to protect the innocent citizens against Casey - at least that is what you have been taking credit for.
You have taken credit for a lot of things that you don't deserve - after hearing you last night and the way you acted, the bullshit that you attempt to spin left and right, I would rather have Casey Serin win that lawsuit than you - he is a helluva lot more mentally stable.
Go ahead and sue me.
Read the last post on the last thread. Mark is gone.
Thanks Khatie, you're a lifesaver.
Heat got too hot in the kitchen - thank god. Now I am off to eat oysters and drink some brew.
i double dog dare you LMP to not check back in until your victory in court. i don't think i'm the only tiring of reading about a lawsuit that's happening, or not, about some issue that i think i understand. or not. about someone trying to do some business, or not, with a known crook, or not, and the deal not working out, or not.
hell, i'm confused, or not?
You guys be "murst" but I'm one of the few who actually met Casey dead, front and center!
So the "murst" goes to me. Especially since he told his location and nobody reacted!!
The other person there was a real estate professional of some sort..she never told. But she was busting on Casey's azz.
I had to take Casey's side, trolling as you will, in a pub to keep things entertaining. But I can see her point. I think her name was Salty.
Still, it was good times.
whats this about casey oweing mark money. the hater cast where is that?
oh crap mark got exposed! Dude be more careful who you get in bed with.
Rob whats your take on this? No BS please.
Edgar, AKA Mort: Still here? Why?
Khatie:
Thank you.
It's good that LMP is taking a breather for awhile, and will probably work to his advantage later in court.
Trivia tidbit for the day. Is Nigle in West Jordan?
"24.10.162.232 - - [07/Jul/2007:04:33:48 -0400] "GET /roller HTTP/1.1" 302 - "http://iamfacingforeclosure.com/wp-admin/moderation.php?ignored=227&deleted=4&approved=12&spam=0" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4"
24.10.162.232 - West Jordan, UT
http://housingpanic.blogspot.com/
has an IAFF link and the thread heading right beside it says FBI INVESTIGATES MORTGAGE FRAUD. Oh the irony of it.
te he
Mark did work for Casey's benefit. Casey owed Mark for that with specific perfomance and because Casey didn't pay now Mark is asking for money.
Mark is used to working with the kind of people that get into deep financial difficulty. The lies and deceptions that caused the conflicts are that Casey is not that kind of person. The biggest lie is that Casey wants to fix things. Don't believe me? Look at the evidence. EVERYTHING he's done has made things worse.
Casey loves where he is now. Free of responsibility, no debts to pay, 2 years of livin' large and no consequenses that have any meaning to him whatsoever.
And face it we've made him a better criminal for next time. He is Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat. I never thought pointing out scams as illegal would turn into a free course in underming society but that's because I never dreamed that LE would be so arbitrary and arrogant. Everything Casey commited this year is not soley his fault. He cannot help himself. LE is to blame. The only questiuon is how far is Casey allowed to go before he is stopped.
This didn't start out as betrayal of trust. There was no need for "trust." It was just a business relationship that Casey abused. Casey abuses EVERYTHING. Look at vdubs, how he burns through phones and toyz. People too.
The lawsuit is all that's left. When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. I don't like It but then again I don't have a better suggestion.
J was a Hater wrote post number 192 at IAFF. This commenter looks like an attorney who has surfaced to work for free writing answers and counter suing Mark for his bombast.
4:09 PM
I'm fairly certain this letter was NEVER written or sent:
Dear Irwin,
I've decided it's going to be Normandy beach on June 5th at low tide. With the 6th as a rain day. And we were fooling about Georgie and the First US Army.
Mamie sends her love.
Regards,
Ike
aack!!
So, LossMitPunk has decided to slither back under a rock, huh?
Good riddance.
Too bad he wasn't smart enough to take that decision before the Fraudcast tantrum.
Fucking glorified bill-collector.
thpptt!!!
S_t_C
@FMW
I would laugh if Casey took J up on his offer. Casey does not need responses written by some random alleged attorney. He needs a real live flesh and blood attorney.
@ John,
Yep.
"Mark did work for Casey's benefit."
K. Now...did they have a signed contract? If they did, why wasn't it one of Mark's attachments? If they didn't, how can Mark sue for breach of a non-existant contract?
192 at IAFF. This commenter looks like an attorney who has surfaced to work for free writing answers and counter suing Mark for his bombast.
About freakin' time. Casey needs a lawyer and his particular defect means he needs a free lawyer.
No the fun begins. Somewhere about minute 45 in Casey's first pro bono hour the lawyer looses it and shouts so that everyone in the Starbucks can hear; "Let me get this straight. You did WHAT?!?" Then regaining composure he says, look Casey, here's what we are gonna do. I'm erasing this and tearing up my notes. You go back on your blog and wipe everything, I mean everything that we ever met. In exchange I'll just get up and walk away and pretend this conversation never took place. It isn't ethical but ... oh man.. I just don't want any part of this. And if you don't do what I'm telling you... Jeez my professional reputation is on the line here. Just shut up and go away.
And yet, Casey walks free....
"DENVER -- A man who told two women they were extremely beautiful was arrested on charges of harassment last week, Denver police said.
Police said 32-year-old Jeff John Hergert approached the women and "expressed interest in them." He told each woman in two separate incidents that they were extremely beautiful and that they should consider modeling.
Hergert was arrested and is being held on two counts of harassment. He is being held on a $10,000 bond."
So I hear LMP now claims Casey him money. Was there a second contract? I don’t follow ever minutia of this saga. But here is LMP’s own words from when he first hooked up with Casey, and according to this, Casey owes him “zilch, nada, zip, zero”
“It’s important to make clear helping people like Casey is my job; it’s what I do for a living. Yet as I set out to assist Mr. Serin I do so without delusions and no expectation of monetary compensation. I am taking on this assignment for free, gratis, zilch, nada, zip, zero-money paid by Casey. There are a number of reasons for this, primarily because: 1) he couldn’t afford me (at present) were I to charge; 2) I’d much rather Casey devote as much spare income as possible to mortgage lender/creditor workouts; and, 3) professional ethics dictate that a no-fee arrangement be extended to one facing so much financial turmoil.”
I've read Mark's or should I say Anthony's posts, under the user name Crdt Dfnse, on the Credit Talk Forums. It appears he has a great deal of knowledge with regard to debt and collections issues.
http://consumers.creditnet.com/Discussions/u-crdt-dfnse-165.html
Rob Dawg said..."Mark is used to working with the kind of people that get into deep financial difficulty". Exactly, he's been dealing with these types of people for years, from both the collection side and the consumer side. He's been dealing with deadbeats for a long time and has to have some idea of what these types of people are like. I would have to surmise there is more to this than him just wanting to do the right thing and get paid for his work with Casey. Why put yourself out there to work with Casey in the first place, who by that time, was aconfirmed deadbeat and con artist, unless there was something more to gain. It just doesn't make sense.
Dawg barked: "I never dreamed that LE would be so arbitrary and arrogant"
Then you haven't been paying attention. :)
Dishonest money breeds dishonest people. The United States has been thriving on corruption for several years. Honest people are generally regarded as more of a threat than minor criminals because large #s of citizens are in on minor theft some form or fashion.
10.27.2000, 13:21
Crdt Dfnse
Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 545
Real-world Tactics
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Pat:
You know I think we’re coming from two different perspectives. I’m commenting on this subject based on actual experience with a wide variety of cases, whereas you are apparently considering only case law. This doesn’t mean either is necessarily wrong, per se. Only such applications of theory from tactical standpoints differ greatly, and are dependant on many factors specific to a case.
Look at it this way… Sure one can purport a certain ruling, but litigation is far more a matter of tactics than anything else. To prevail one must have a game plan, strategies that serve to prove a given point. So while I commend and (truly) admire your enthusiasm, prevailing in litigation is far more than being able to quote case law as absolute. It’s anything but, as you may agree, because it is ever changing by follow-up rulings.
Keep The Faith,
Anthony Villaseñor
From the Fraudcast conversation with Duane:
How is this helping me?
Classic. "Well, it's not helping ME, so I'll just put you on mute and ignore you." I never cease to be amazed that LossMit, Nigel, and Duane have shifted from trying to help Casey to trying to help contain the destruction he's wreaking on his family, friends, business partners, and lenders... They are becoming "Casey Mitigation Pros."
@Rob Dogbert
It's very unlikely that a lawyer would do that. Lawyers are used to mendacious clients. If they weren't that way, they probably wouldn't need a lawyer in the first place.
And lawyers are never judged by their clients (or at least they shouldn't be).
Not participating in ongoing fraud, no suborning perjury, those things are bad, and grounds to end representation. Just 'cos your client is a douche isn't normally reason to.
Not to say the guy might meet casey and then decide that he doesn't want to represent him, but I doubt he would storm out bitching about his 'reputation'.
And before people call me a troll, I don't like what casey did at all.n But frankly, this whole 'lawsuit' sticks in my throat. Especially this bit about 'casey must be stopped'. Well he has been, more or less.
How about going after the people at the top who enabled him in the first place instead? Because they gave these loans knowing damn well they could sell them on, and THEY IS IN UR PENSIONZ, STEELING UR RETIREMENTZ.
rob, i've got no issues with lmp filing some sort of suit against casey. atleast someone is trying something to slow casey down. that's good. i believe the issue is with lmp desiring to be the complete authority on a subject he doesn't wish to fully disclose. for some reason, the rest of us are left to just agree with everything lmp says, even though we are privy to all of the suppose information.
that's fine if some of you wish to keep everything underwraps, until it's 'time to share'. personally, i would much rather not have any teases from you or anyone else and then have the whole story at once. but to not expect, or accept, some readers of en to voice their disagreement, just builds frustration.
nonetheless, it's all good!
rob, i've got no issues with lmp filing some sort of suit against casey. atleast someone is trying something to slow casey down. that's good. i believe the issue is with lmp desiring to be the complete authority on a subject he doesn't wish to fully disclose. for some reason, the rest of us are left to just agree with everything lmp says, even though we are privy to all of the suppose information.
that's fine if some of you wish to keep everything underwraps, until it's 'time to share'. personally, i would much rather not have any teases from you or anyone else and then have the whole story at once. but to not expect, or accept, some readers of en to voice their disagreement, just builds frustration.
nonetheless, it's all good!
Pure speculation, but is it possibe LMP's plan was to negotiate the debt down, purchase the debt, have Casey hand over IAFF, use IAFF to pay back the debt. Turn IAFF in to foreclosure site bringing in lots of new debtors/customers.
Ace,
Unlike apparently a bunch of other people here, I don't have a law degree, so I can only presume to gather what my limited intellect can comprehend from reading and experience. I also don't know LMP personally and am in no way privy to the inside scoop.
My reading of all this is that LMP needed a dollar amount to demonstrate compensation, a fundamental requirement of taking a civil legal action over a contract. He selected the $10K number based on the fee he waived in return for Casey behaving himself, which Casey didn't do. Hence, fraudulent inducement of employment. That particular dollar figure also put him into Superior Court.
There's nothing sinister about money being involved - those are called "damages", again a fundamental part of a lawsuit. Until there's criminal charges on deck, any civil court case is going to involve money. Cope.
Also, I've read a lot of people here trying to make a big deal about whether LMP and Casey had a written agreement. In reality, it may not matter - the court will look for evidence of a "meeting of the minds" between the two men as the contract in fact, and go from there. At this stage, there's a mountain of recorded evidence that they had a working agreement.
In the last thread, M&P commented that he's about ready to bounce, because so many people here are acting like spoiled children. I am, too. LMP, Duane, even Rob don't owe anyone here a damned thing, and unlike Casey they have the brains to keep their mouths shut where it matters.
(Emotions aside, that is - and truth is, LMP's outburst last night probably won't impact the case at all, unless it substantially alters the facts of the complaint. "Tearing your fucking throat out" doesn't seem to do that, from where I sit.. the judge isn't going to throw the case out just because the plaintiff has a temper.)
Too many people here got their law degrees from NBC.
Wow, Edgar sure is interesting (not).
Harold, Casey hasnt been stopped, he hasnt even been slowed down.
He's been effectively homeless for 4 weeks now, is now seperated from his wife. Yet has more money than he did 2 months ago, (it appears) a car to drive around and places to stay.
He's already planning to flee Sac. (and his family again), he said so last night.
There will ALWAYS be supporterz for him to crash with. Either people who think we're too hard on him, or only believe his side of the story, or others like him who don't see any problem with his various frauds.
The old saying about blind squirrels applies, eventually he will happen onto a big money deal, for the blog, for an interview, something. Yes history says he will eventually lose it, but he can keep floating indefinately until his paypal account and or blog+book are taken away.
The ONLY way to stop him is to kick the financial supports away or for him to face legal charges.
Dawg is being intentionally cryptic of late. That's his right of-course, but I'm going to try and interpret at least part of his message. It seems as if Dawg's claiming that LMP believes KC owes him money because he did some pro-bono ("nada, zilch, zero") work and KC did something bad that led to LMP stopping working. Apparently in LMP's mind that means his charitable efforts now deserve compensation. This seems to be yet another (at least the fifth by my count) reason for the lawsuit.
I really hope I'm wrong here because you'd have to be an exceptional prick to offer to help someone for free only to turn around and charge them when things don't work out. The kind of person who does this is nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, back-stabber who deserves neither respect nor trust. Please tell me my interpretation is wrong.
Over the years I've had many occasions to provide free services for needy individuals or organizations. There's been a couple of occasions where it's been necessary to terminate the arrangement for one reason or another, but never once has it even crossed my mind to try to collect money for services that I'd offered for free. Only an asshole would do that.
It does seem that LMP has taken the admirable first step of removing himself from public forums. I now hope he'll take the second step and withdraw his asinine law suit. If he does that his poor reputation would be somewhat better in my eyes.
Yes, I know I don't know everything. The super secret stuff will supposedly change my mind. Perhaps that's true, if it is I'll be the first to admit it. In the meantime I form opinions based on all of the facts at hand.
"Pure speculation, but is it possibe LMP's plan was to negotiate the debt down, purchase the debt, have Casey hand over IAFF, use IAFF to pay back the debt. Turn IAFF in to foreclosure site bringing in lots of new debtors/customers."
Well, we'll never know now, will we?
Kirk, no I think you hit what LMP stated most directly about the point of the suit (there are others he hasn't gone into).
But look at it this way. There may be reasons that LMP stated his rate as whatever it was (free as far as we know) Perhaps he was expecting some side monetary benefits like referrals or future business based on goodwill from solving Casey's very complex and deeb situation. He has said that his expecations were based on a genuine desire on Casey's part to pay back debt, which Mark later determined to be false.
Based on these expectations, lets assume that Mark may have had to pass on working with other clients who would have netted him the amount claimed in the suit.
Now we have a realistic lawsuit. Mark was falsely induced into employment for Casey that caused him to miss out on revenue both from that employment and generated by other clients.
Its similar to going to work for a company (when you had multiple offers) with the assumption your new employer has multiple clients to place immediatelyyou with only to find that they had no desire to put you to work past an initial project (or at all, they just hired you to put you "on the bench" awaiting work to develop)
No chance he pulls it, a judge would have to dismiss it.
Come on guys....we don't know the whole story...we are just suppose to believe.
This site went from a blog about a blog to a troll about a blog....would be funnier if it turned out to be a troll about a troll
5:23 @Kirk: I really hope I'm wrong here because you'd have to be an exceptional prick to offer to help someone for free only to turn around and charge them when things don't work out. The kind of person who does this is nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, back-stabber who deserves neither respect nor trust. Please tell me my interpretation is wrong.
Again, I'm not privy, so I'm speculating. But I think your interpretation is wrong.
One, I highly doubt the arrangement was legally any sort of charitable deal, because it sure sounds to me like it was conditionally predicated. I've done my own fair share of volunteer work as well, and I sense that this was a different arrangement - there was some sort of compensation element here that we're not privy to. I strongly suspect that LMP *conditionally* waiving his fees is *not* the same as him agreeing to work pro bono (i.e., unconditionally working for free).
Yes, I know that's more secret stuff, but that's between Casey and LMP. If they want to reveal, fine - but we don't have any inherent right to know those details.
Two, it didn't just "not work out". LMP put his reputation on the line to make debtor payback arrangements, and Casey screwed him without a thought. Casey very clearly failed to live up to the conditions under which LMP waived his fees. This wasn't just some personality conflict that overflowed into the legal system.
What's happening here is that Casey wants to play the victim role, and people are letting him. LMP stopped talking because he has a court date to prepare for, and he got tired of constantly answering the same series of airhead attacks on his character. By default, Casey keeps relative control of the spin until the legal hammer falls.
Like others have said, the courts won't be impressed with "it's all good". LMP's going to smash the kid.
I'm just glad to see LMP run off with his tail between his legs. I can't stand smugness. A little humility would have down wonders for him.
@Relentless and Honestly Wondering.
I suppose there could have been a side deal between KC and LMP. LMP could also have been banking on future referrals or exposure by helping KC. However, he has said many times that he was doing this to help KC without expectation of compensation. I take him at his word. Even if he missed out working for other clients while helping KC that was time he knew he was going to lose. It's not right to expect compensation when the arrangement ends, if that's what he is doing.
I also don't buy the loss of reputation argument I'm afraid. Let me give you an example. I have recommended many people for jobs at clients. On one occasion the person I recommended was hired and turned out to be a complete disaster. The company wasn't happy, but since they had a long relationship with me that one circumstance didn't ruin my reputation in their eyes.
If LMP did vouch for KC with creditors, it was only for a few weeks. Surely he has worked with these companies for years and they judge him based on that entire time, not just this one circumstance.
Standard Disclaimer: Yes, I don't know all the facts. If and when I do I may change my mind.
Two more points and then I'm going to go enjoy my Saturday evening..
I've been reading a lot of comments here today ripping LMP for claiming to want to help Casey, and then OH MY GOD "turning on him" and claiming a financial self-interest.
Grow up, people; that's any client-based business relationship. Generally speaking, it's good business to want to help your clients.. but bad business to let that desire expose you to liability. Your family doctor does the same damned thing - there's no conflict of interest there.
Also..
5:50pm Edgar: I wouldn't do business with LMP in a million years. They can't be trusted with confidential material and they'll turn on you like a rabid dog.
You mean the Marty contract? The one Casey emailed to LMP unsolicited, outside of any business relationship (this happened after their fallout) and in blatant violation of Marty's NDA? You mean that confidential information?
Or do you mean the Casey Tapes - the MP3's that leaked out due to negligence on Marty's part, mirrored by LMP (again, outside of any professional relationship with Casey)?
So far, I haven't seen LMP release any private information offered to him in confidence within the scope of his professional relationship with Casey, and I think I've been paying fairly close attention.
Perhaps you can point out what I'm missing?
I hear what you are saying. But realistically, casey is not buying anymore houses, not starting any more corporations, and not opening up any more lines of sweet credit.
He's homeless, he's lost his wife, he's lost his family. (He lost his mind a long time ago).
He is, to all intents and purposes shut down.
Don't get me wrong: I don't feel sorry for him, he's brought it all on his own head.
But I also don't feel that he is public enemy number one either.
Meh. Maybe teh big reveal will prove me wrong. I'm just a spectator after all, and maybe he is Lex Luthor or some such.
But I do stand by the notion that this lawsuit is not going to redound to any of the participants credit.
@Honestly Wondering
It's very bad business to partner up with a known liar and thief.
Kirk I don't know what Mark's original arrangement was with Casey, and honestly if it wasnt in writing it may not even matter. I was just trying to explain it based on my current understanding of comments Mark has made.
At this point its up to the judge(s) to side with Mark or Casey/Marty and any lawyers they bring to determine if his complaint has any merit and if so, to what degree.
Courts are a funny thing, just remember some of the crazy suits that have happened in the past (millions for food being...hot for example).
And just remember, this facet is only part of the reasons for the suit, some of which LMP has never talked about.
@Edgar
lol
paragon of professionalism
not to mention 'good judgement' in his selection of pro bono clients.
@harold
I hear what you are saying. But realistically, casey is not buying anymore houses, not starting any more corporations, and not opening up any more lines of sweet credit.
Not yet, but the second he can pull it off, he will.
Why do you think he is putting money into paying off credit debt? He's trying to position Hammar as a vehicle to getting more loans to pull off deals.
Its even been hinted that he HAS tried to buy a house (for cashback) in the last 2 months.
@Relentless
Yep, I pretty much agree. We can all have an opinion on the lawsuit, and throw out predictions on it's outcome, but the only opinion that counts is the judges.
You know, this whole circus has been a fun diversion for me, for the most part. Sure, I've gotten red-faced angry reading about KC's latest exploits on occasion. And I have nothing but sympathy and good wishes for G and others hurt by KC's actions. But this whole LMP thing infuriates me. What I see as his bullying in the guise of being nothing more than a business man pisses off this business man. It's quite possible to be ethical, honest, and kind while still being a successful business man. I try to be that way, Duane also appears to follow those principles. Rabid dog tactics are one thing that makes businesses look poor in the public's eye. CashCall comes to mind.
I've clearly taken it a little too personally so I'm going to follow in Honestly Wondering's footsteps. I'm done with work for the day so it's time to go upstairs (I work in an office downstairs), open a nice bottle of wine and watch a good movie with my wife. I'll check in tomorrow or Monday to see what's up with y'all (Duane-ism there :) )
6:08p Paraiba: It's very bad business to partner up with a known liar and thief.
No argument, but to be fair, at the time it happened LMP needed to find that out firsthand. I was one of the people who publicly warned him against it. I imagine that in his line of work, he hears the "known liar and thief" line a lot.
As far as any of us know, he cut the line once he had firsthand evidence.
6:08pm Edgar: That's an artful dodge.
No, that's how confidential information is handled in the business world.
In my line of work, I deal with NDAs all the time. A big part of working with confidential materials is defining what they are; this isn't a priest-confessional relationship we're talking about here, where anything LMP learns is considered sacredly confidential. Defining conditionality obligation is what an NDA is *for*.
LMP isn't legally or even ethically obligated to hold anything from Casey in confidence except what was offered to him in confidence within their professional relationship. Once the relationship ended, so did any ongoing confidentiality obligation on LMP's part. Even under an NDA, that obligation wouldn't last forever.
So no, not an artful dodge.
LMP the attention whore.
Good riddance to Mark a/k/a LossMitPro. What a joke this clown turned out to be. I knew he was just trying to ride IAFF's coattails.
As dispicable as Casey Serin may be, LMP stooped below Casey's level. Casey is cunning; he knew exactly which buttons to press--and then stepped back to let LMP self-destruct in front of all of us.
Relentless
"Not yet, but the second he can pull it off, he will."
I don't think he will be able to pull it off. I'm sure he thinks he can, but I don't see it happening ever again for him. Not after this.
Moreover, I don't believe he has all that money in his account either. I think a lot of people are suffering from confirmation bias over this whole saga. The plain fact is that he is a pathological liar; but some people discount that if he says something that fits their internal narrative about the whole "casey serin story", and so choose to take some of his statements as gospel truth. In light of everything we know about him - the fantasies, the lies, &c. - that's not a very realistic approach towards him.
Like I said, I am prepared for the big reveal where he turns out to be the next lex luthor, but I don't see it happening. (But if it happens, I will post a mea culpa).
Though, you'll just never convince me that he is public enemy number one in the whole 'sweet' cashback dealio .
"LMP isn't legally or even ethically obligated to hold anything from Casey in confidence except what was offered to him in confidence within their professional relationship. Once the relationship ended, so did any ongoing confidentiality obligation on LMP's part. Even under an NDA, that obligation wouldn't last forever."
Casey is a mark, a fool that keeps believing the sharks of the world who approach him to sell him on sweet deals. He probably believed Mark telling him... "Casey, I'm here to help you pro-bono. I can negotiate your debt down to pennies for the dollar. I've done this for 20 years. Your lenders will negotiate with me or I'll suit them. Just give me your business documents and I'll negotiate on your behalf. We don't need an NDA. You can trust in me."
And our crooked snowflake felt for that too. What a fool! You'd think he'd know by now not to trust in people, but... It's all good.
And since this is supposedly a thready thing about RAH, I'll share a piece of advice he gave which let me live my life in a happy and productive manner.
"Never count your change".
Good to see from Casey's post today that he attended the family wedding alone.
Of course, he already starts laying in the hooks for her, pining on and on. Plus it is just additional haterbait, I'll consider my self caseytrolled.
Here's some outrageous crime
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8Q7A5A01&show_article=1
At 6:40 PM, GoodbyeForeclosure said...
LMP the attention whore.
Good riddance to Mark a/k/a LossMitPro. What a joke this clown turned out to be. I knew he was just trying to ride IAFF's coattails.
As dispicable as Casey Serin may be, LMP stooped below Casey's level. Casey is cunning; he knew exactly which buttons to press--and then stepped back to let LMP self-destruct in front of all of us.
And you are?
Some people don't get the hint. The problem was the same comments repeated ad nauseum from on post charlies. Now we've got drive by sniping from one post charlies who register a different name for the effort.
To the very few trolls. Multiple personalities does not qualify you for a bulk discount. We've been tolerant of the passive agressiver but the sheer repetition is lower than anything you have against the people you refuse to stop accusing.
@harold
I don't like if's and maybes.
When I do something (or have something done for me) its a do/get it done.
Casey needs to be taken out of the real estate/investment game for 5 years at least, for his own good.
You can argue Mark may be or play dirty but he's the only (visible) game in town to get Casey down.
Personally I don't think Casey will ever pull off a (legit) big money deal again.. Its like I said on the fraudcast last night, he may truely have the desire to pay off his debt, he lacks the ability. As soon as he has money he's going to "invest" it in something, he isnt going to pool it to start some big deal.
Howver I do believe he will likely get a large infusion eventually either a partner/buyout of the blog (he mentioned this last night suggesting he had something in the works) or a deep pocketed supporter so its possible, who knows.
Regardless of the amount, from his track record he's going to pick the investment available to him with the highest advertised payback for the least amount of work, in other words a scam.
And no I dont believe he has all that money in his account. From the JV agreement he owes Marty have everything he makes off the blog.
6:44pm Costa: Casey is a mark, a fool that keeps believing the sharks of the world who approach him to sell him on sweet deals.
Heh. Years ago, one of my first solid clients was a corporate negotiation consultant. He made a very nice living from training his clients to wrangle the best contracts they could. I learned a lot from the guy that helped me better negotiate positions with my own corporate clients.
One point he was always adamant about is that no matter how much people talk win-win, only a fool sacrifices before they have to, and both sides should and are always angling for self-interest. You can usually find a constructive, mutually beneficial middle ground, but only an idiot tries to negotiate from both sides of the table.
Casey can't figure that out. He's quite possibly the worst business negotiator I've ever seen; one bright, shiny object waved in his eyes and he's signing away firstborn children. Then he pretends like the contract didn't mean anything.
Like the song goes, it don't mean nothing until you sign it on the dotted line. Only the contract matters; everything else is marketing. Casey's failure to understand that is his fatal flaw.
Why was my post removed?
Wormsign on IAFF: Casey got an email that basically says "shadiness is the path to success" and he's in full-on it's-all-good comeback mode.
And the CaseyPedia transcription effort continues.
I just did Sebastian's drilling on the serin.com emails, and it seems to me that he got so close: Casey admits that anna@serin.com is an alias that goes directly to him, but then he clams up with the "house rules" argument.
The real question is: why is he anna@serin.us? Why is he pretending to be his mother? Gotta be Hammar-related, got to be fishy as all hell.
Relentless,
I understand that you want certainty about casey. Frankly though, for me, I'm confident enough that it is all going to come back and haunt him badly so I don't worry about the minute possibility that he might come up all smelling of strippers. (Or roses, I suppose, him being a good christian an all).
And I do hope he gets the book thrown at him at some point.
Thing of it is, though, I've never been comfortable with selective non -enforcement of the law. So I don't like this lawsuit crusade. At all.
Of course, if lost mittens is using this as a vehicle to go after the appraisers, the lenders, the brokers and all those other people that benefited from serin, then I will take it all back.
But, just singling out casey (and marty)? Not so much for me.
Do you see where I - and others - are coming from?
HW, you are onto something there.
Let's assume Casey did not want to be purposely 'grey', 'shady', 'nefarious', or 'criminal'.
I think his problem is that when he hears about the totality of a scheme, say, 'flipping'; that there is a distressed property... that it can be fixed up... that people would be willing to buy it... that money can be made on this operation...
Well, he can see this in his mind's eye, wants to be involved, and like a puppy dog, wants to get the game underway right away -- throw the ball, and let me chase that shiny thing.
What he never does, and seems incapable of doing is a PERSONAL evaluation of cost versus benefit on HIS end. Noticve he has never been able or tried as far as I can see) to articulate what value HE brings to these situations. That is what made his pipe dream of a gazillion dollar casino deal so ludicrous -- what the heck would anyone on either end of that transaction need mop-top for? Puhlease! Yet he gets 'juiced' mentally by being near the action, knowing that money will change hands and real businessmen will be involved in doing very adult things like wearing suits, saying 'arbitrage' and knuckle bumping over a successful sweet deal going down. Only Casey is the mark everytime that he is allowed to sit at the poker table. Why else would they let him sit down, for crying out loud? He is a rube, a mark, a pigeon. And like those that want to con and get conned, he feels a twisted loyalty to the very ones who took him, as if by just staying near the action, he will gain competency - no not competency, magic by osmosis, and he will have 'arrived'. No plan, no assessment, just hang in there and fake it 'til ya make it.
Well, Murse Boi, how's that working for ya so far?
Homeless man with a laptop. No wife. No job. No income. Law coming soon. Universally reviled.
Only Casey could still believe "It's all good"
@Harold
actually no I don't at least not with those points.
And thats unusual I'm of two minds on pretty much anything.
For instance I view LMP's lawsuit 2 ways
1. I hope that he takes Casey down, hard. At this point it seems the only way Casey is going to learn is if he hits rock bottom so hard he bounces..twice.
2. It scares me that someone can get a court order of any substance without the defense even having a chance to prepare a proper defense.
I think we are a society that is overly prone to turning to the courts. I don't like it, and I'm 34 and have never been in a court room (except for a single traffic matter).
I don't think Mark intends to go after anyone hard except Casey, Marty is in this because of his dealing with Casey but Mark hasn't show much interest in the Marty side of the matter.
Actually I expect if law enforcement ever does get involved they will "flip" Casey (ironic I guess) so that the brokers/lenders/realtors that made this all possible take the fall. If that happens Casey will learn nothing.
Uh, clean up in second thread will probably be needed...or...nah!
Why was my post removed?
The link was both poorly formatted and is to a not nice person.
Fake Rob posts in the other thread are curious, it says
Mark I'll see you at the
courthouse you pussy.
I'll? number of people in court with mark is a pretty short list, Marty/Casey wouldn't troll here surely....
There was no problem with the link.
But, I guess I understand why you don't want anyone pointing out how bizarre the crap here is.
But, it is your sandbox and your toys.
"2. It scares me that someone can get a court order of any substance without the defense even having a chance to prepare a proper defense."
Well you can't. So don't worry about it. Hence the "temporary" in temporary restraining order.
And mark can pretend like he has no interest in marty whatsoever, but marty is on the caption, isn't he? Mark could have left it up to casey to implead marty as a necessary party, had he so chosen. He really didn't have to name marty at all if he wanted just to go after casey. (Likewise all the does).
But that aside, Lost mittens lawsuit has been touted as an attempt to get law enforcement interested in casey. That's the bit I object to.
(Well, apart from the apparent failure to state a cause of action type thing).
But, reasonable people can differ. It's all part of the rich tapestry of democracy &c.
Edited: because of too much Pinot Grigio.
7:40pm soem dood: He is a rube, a mark, a pigeon. And like those that want to con and get conned, he feels a twisted loyalty to the very ones who took him, as if by just staying near the action, he will gain competency - no not competency, magic by osmosis, and he will have 'arrived'. No plan, no assessment, just hang in there and fake it 'til ya make it.
That's the NPD again. I've heard my own NPD use the words "fake it til ya make it" more times than I care to remember, second only to "perception is 100%" (his way of saying that perception is reality).
I don't think Casey *can* make the cost-benefit evaluation. He has an inherent need, right down to his atomic structure, to see himself as important and worthy of admiration by the select elite. Call it Illuminatitus.
Getting a W2 job or anything else like it (such as actually starting and maintaining a real business) smacks of being common. Forgettable. It doesn't make him feel important. That makes him a sucker for every "secret to success" that comes along, and it's just going to keep getting worse - the more he fails, the more he'll dream about "showing them all" with the next roll of the dice. He's going to spend his life buying time until the Big Score, damn everyone else.
Like I said, my own NPD has been this way for as long as I can remember - at least 30 years. To this day, despite repeated failure, he firmly believes that MLM is a legitimate way to riches. He sees absolutely no relationship between his income and his expenses. He's currently embarking on his own self-publishing endeavor, and has already told me that the primary goal there is to make people look up to him. Meanwhile, he's wreaked an amazing amount of damage on the people around him.. and he doesn't care, because that fact doesn't make him feel important.
He's Casey, plus 40 years, and most likely the reason I can't let go of this story. To a certain degree, I'm Steve Serin myself. I really feel for the guy.
Casey has no problem being "shady", as long as he figures that the elite are as well. Just one more reason why he's important, unless the rest of us Haterz.
We have WormSign on IAFF.....
There was no problem with the link.
But, I guess I understand why you don't want anyone pointing out how bizarre the crap here is.
But, it is your sandbox and your toys.
Some people just think they can bite down on vagary of language and shout "It doesn't always mean exactly what you say so you are wrong!" and life is too short to deal with people who live in worlds behind walls.
There was a prblem with the link on my screen. My but it didn't take long for the passive agressive act to start to fray.
Good lord...the latest post at IAFF makes me want to puke. He (and his new butt buddy) still insist upon describing scams, MLMs, Ponzi schemes, Pyramid schemes, flipping, penny stock speculating, and all other forms of get rich schemes as "entrepreneurship". They don't have an entrepreneurial bone in their bodies. They are lazy and will waste insane amounts of time, other peoples' money, and peoples' lives in their pursuit of that easy dollar.
Eventually, Casey will gain enough experience to be an *creator* of scams instead a victim.
Another sweetlink is gone.
I asked Casey if I could have it for free since nobody wants to pay for it but he (or somebody in Utah, ho ho) deleted it.
ROFL! The "problem" with the link is you don't like people pointing out how good this stuff makes Casey look.
I am a haterz from way back before it had a tm on it. But, this are getting strange when Casey looks reasonable and LMP et al are ranting and screaming at the top of their lungs.
Actually maybe there is a sliver of hope for Casey. Even he didnt completely agree with that email's "its all good, everyone cheats" mythos.
Mort, kind of hard to post on your blog, you have everyone locked out.
Why have a blog no one can read?
You are worse than KC...
Com'on Edgar, how many times?
one hundred and MURST beyotches!
(yeah i'm still lurking...)
JustWondering,
Maybe it was the fontsize and fontcolor codes.
Edgar,
http://iamarealestateinvestor.com/
Edgar, AKA Mort said...
You speak in riddles Rob Dawg, but you never come out and plainly state anything. You claim to shut trolls down but you are the most thin skinned blogger I have ever seen. You can not stand criticism of yourself or anyone you esteem. You twist the truth to your own purpose. Come now, say one thing as it were without a mouthful of marbles.
::yawn::
"Why have a blog no one can read?"
He's storing his MP3 files there for "The MortCode" book.
Hellooooo?? The lawsuit is obvious. Mark wants the only asset that Casey has. He wants to own IAFF. He's wanted it from the beginning, come on now why would he volunteer to work with a Criminal like Casey to begin with.He wants the domain and he's trying to scare Casey so he'll settle for it out of court.
I don't think so
Possible? sure. But I dont think thats the case.
Duane tried to buy it
Nigel tried to buy it
Don't think Mark ever did, anyone remember?
Plus he said he had no intent to keep Casey from blogging.
IAFF comment: "Come on, Casey, you got TWELVE sweetlinks open. It just looks bad, man, like there's no demand. Stick a link to my blog on one (for free, of course).... no, wait, I have TWO domains.
Stick my domains on TWO links, give the others away for free to other discrete guys like me and then you can claim that there's sold-out and raise the rates for the OTHER adverstisers.
That way you can make up for the monthly fee that I won't be paying. It's no illegal, man. It's... it's being enterpreneurial!"
Yes, thats exactly how they see us.
I'm sure they see me that way for one.
I'm inflexible, for his own good I think Casey needs to be taken down, completely.
That doesnt mean I hate the kid or that in 10 years I want to see him living on the streets (or even divorced)
Just that I think he's been given enough chances and its time he learns that actions have consequences. Subtle didn't work, so now brute force is required. Once he has learned them (if he had a "come to Jesus" moment tommorrow I would be thrilled actually, skeptical, but thrilled.)
The converse is a common flaw (in my opinion) with culture today that everything "is all good" that mistakes should be overlooked and no consequences should be faced. That society as a whole has a duty to cover and take care of those poor souls who won't help themselves.
I know thats not everyones opinion and I respect that.
I (re)added the comment with the link but then deleted it.
It is on IAFF for those interested.
meh..note to self, finish sentences
Once he has learned his lessons hopefully he will become the success he wishes. Hell I hope he becomes the business owner he pretends to be now. I think he would make one hell of a car salesman for one. He's young, the sooner the intervention happens the better.
For the record won't lose any sleep if Casey gets away with all his past crimes. I think it would be stupid for LE to do so but that's a different story. No, Casey has to be stopped because he won't stop on his own. It really is that simple.
Does anyone not wanna bone Galina?
Let's get over it all, everyone wants to bone Galina.
Relentless said...
Yes, thats exactly how they see us.
I'm sure they see me that way for one.
I'm inflexible, for his own good I think Casey needs to be taken down, completely.
That doesnt mean I hate the kid or that in 10 years I want to see him living on the streets (or even divorced)
Just that I think he's been given enough chances and its time he learns that actions have consequences. Subtle didn't work, so now brute force is required. Once he has learned them (if he had a "come to Jesus" moment tommorrow I would be thrilled actually, skeptical, but thrilled.)
The converse is a common flaw (in my opinion) with culture today that everything "is all good" that mistakes should be overlooked and no consequences should be faced. That society as a whole has a duty to cover and take care of those poor souls who won't help themselves.
I know thats not everyones opinion and I respect that.
I absolutely agree with everything you've just stated. 100% agree.
Maybe his next sweet deal could be a blog and book deal on being an internationally hated homeless couch surfing mooch with a laptop?
"Couch Surfer's Guide to the Internet"
Instead of having "Don't Panic" on the cover, it could say "It's All Good!"
Just catching up from the road...
There is info that will validate both Mark and Duane's temper loss last night. This info can't be released yet due to the sources wishing to be protected. The trolls on here villify Mark for losing his cool and for Mark, Duane, and Rob holding their tongues. There is a reason Mark is going about things the way he is. Those with enough sense, can see it as the gambit that it is. The clues are all out there, put them together. It's like a massive game of doubles pool. Except Casey doesn't have as many partners.
I think someone dropped a rock on Piggy.
Either way, even if the truth never fully comes out, no matter how much you all attack those with more backbone, Casey will pay for his crimes. READ MY WORDS, HE WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL. Anyone who associates with him will suffer from his emotional usury.
A lot of you forget to quickly that our system of justice, while not perfect, is a beautiful beast. There are about a dozen or so lenders who have reason to sue Casey. Not all will give up.
There will be justice and it will not be pretty.
@Edgar, AKA Mort....
What part of Casey's family contacted Duane, he didn't initiate contact with them, are you having difficulty understanding? They call Duane, not the other way around. Capiche?
And how long have you been on the Snowflake train ride?
@Mort
You keep overlooking the fact that the engineer's wife and family called the "enemy" because they were concerned about how the engineer wasn't paying attention to the rules of the tracks despite several written and oral warnings including a forced temporary revocation of privileges.
The "enemy" didnt call looking for the story it came to them.
The engineers family doesnt want anyone else (or the engineer) to get hurt in the inevitable accident they're hoping for a forced derailment in a non-populated area.
DROP ZE BOMBS ALREADY
Boy does it take a long time to catch up on reading when you miss a day. Several thought on today’s action:
1. Mark does not have anything hidden for his lawsuit. He is unable to keep quiet and needs to show how effective he is. The criticism he would have shown some valid reason for the suit if there was any. My memory (and I could easily be wrong) was that he was originally threatening the haterz. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes and LE hopefully is getting involved, but it has nothing to do with Marks suit.
2. Anyone who says you need to act the way Mark did to stay in business, is not very successful in business. Mark has probably spent 10 to 20 times the effort on the lawsuit than Casey. And if the suit is as weak as it appears to be, Mark is going to pay for Casey’s lawyer. Most business people learn to avoid trouble and cut losses relatively early.
3. Casey may be too addlebrained to get a lawyer, in which case Mark ends up owning IAFF. This is a long shot. It may take Casey too much effort to open mail, if it relates to a short sale or meeting some commitment, but if it relates to his own interests, Casey can be quite active.
4. If Mark has purchased some of Casey’s debt, I take back every mean thing I have ever said. If he owns actual Casey debt, rather than made up Casey debt, he has a legitimate reason to be in court.
5. To extend point 4 further, If Rob wants to purchase some of Casey’s debt, I will donate money. I suspect others will as well. I suspect Casey debt can be purchased very cheaply if someone knows the process, and or contacts to do so. It does not even need to be big debt. It only has to be big enough that you can put a lean on IAFF and take ownership as repayment.
6. People are merging Duane and Mark and tarring them both. THIS IS WRONG. I disagree with Marks lawsuit because I have not seen any legitimate reason for it. Duane has been nothing but a standup guy.
7. The comment 192 lawyer guy could very easily be a train wreck watcher and the LMP lawsuit was a wonderful munitions car for us train wreck watchers. I suspect it increased the ratings of both IAFF and EN.
8. If you ever watch Judge Judy, every 3rd case is some unemployed bum leeching off a woman, so Casey’s ethics aren’t that rare. The only thing unusual about Casey is him blogging about it.
serinitis said
I think you forgot about the part a hater showed up at the Capitol Garage to see his azz.
It was good times though.
I must be missing something with this corporate credit scam. I own a Nevada "C" shelf corp, have had it since '02, but when I applied for a credit line via my bank they not only wanted the TIN number but also my personal SS#, and they looked at the bank balance in the corp account. Not to mention that developing corporate credit is very similar to developing personal credit; instead of a FICO score kept by the three big reporting agencies, corporations get a rating from Moody's or S&P based upon the same parameters that natural persons deal with: debt/income ratio, track record with creditors, and so forth. Anyone who thinks it's just a matter of creating a corp then getting instant credit is fooling himself.
Casey pushes the free instant credit so he can get his commission, but he used his mom to cosign his corporate credit
I just had to catchup reading the last few threads.
First and foremost, I will state PUBLICALLY that Mark, You have my full support and confidence.
At this point, your decision to move forward with your litigation with snowflake is a sound decision.
I am surprised you were able to contain your frustration and rage with casey this long. Duane also reached the point to where his bullshit and lies spilled over.
You both are correct that if everyone knew the whole story they would hate this little bastard as much as we do.
I do not even know the full story, but I know more than most people and I just get more complacent with each passing day this little thief is allowed to operate in freedom.
The amount of victims he has is growing, and there are allot more that the public does not know about.
When he abused his familial relationships, it showed that he has the desperation of a meth addict stealing from their own family to fuel their own addiction.
BUT it goes much farther than that.
You all might notice the recent pointings to the SETH RAMIT email he sent. Also please note the posting he did awhile back asking anyone if they want to make some moolah using their good credit to finance deals. And casey says HAHAH just kidding, well maybe (paraphrased).
LOOK closely at the above parapraph. The list of people thrown under the bus on caseypedia will be added to in the future.
Now onto the little fuckers that seem to take pleasure in mark leaving:
You do a disservice to JUSTICE. I know some of you are Trollz and some of you are directly linked to "marty's assistants". It's amazing when something like this is perceived as a victory to your side, when I receive emails from allot of different people of which some of them give a small glimpse of what casey is up to.
You are all a bunch of pathetic little parasites that are trying to fuel dissention among the people that oppose casey and his fraudelent acitivites.
Casey's most recent post about being a serial entrepenuer makes me want to puke. He is a thief, a scammer, a con-man, a hippocrite, a liar, a failure at all business he has ever had contact with, a failure as a husband, a failure as a son, a failure as a brother, and a failure as a ETHICAL PRODUCTIVE human being.
Mark, I am sad to see you taking a break from EN. But in the end, it is problably what is best. We will see you when you get done running this little bastard through the court system.
In the coming months, the rest of you will see allot of information come out about casey, and you will see exactly what he is. A SERIAL FRAUD.
And you will see the bullshit spin he puts on it along with trollz spreading disinformation and misdirection away from the facts.
Now that being said,
I have received 1 email in regards to when casey was in the Portland area regarding a deal. I do not know if it is bullshit and a troll, but I will be looking into it first thing Monday morning.
I would encourage anyone with information regarding casey (even if you spotted him outside of a real estate office, looking at a property, any type of info you can give me..an address of a house he looked at ..anything.
I would encourage you to email me at c_h_j_t_s@yahoo.com. Unlike Marty, I do have a huuuuge rolodex of Real Estate Proffesionals in my city and will make sure any deal casey was involved in here or potential deal can pass the above board/smell test.
Anyone else, you can contact me at the above email address.
Regards,
SHARK
PS next haterzcast was going to be on Tuesday but it is in conflict with a medical appointment I have...so a new time will be announced sometime.
The problem with Mark's lawsuit is it turns haterz into supporterz. Everything we have seen on it says it is a baseless lawsuit and when we support it we are supporting another nutcase doing Casey style actions just because he is on ourside.
@ Relentless -- I think he would make one hell of a car salesman for one.
Casey: This new model goes for $23,000... but, because you're a supporterz™, I'll give you a sweet deal. You can buy it for $25K, and I'll give you $2K cash back at close which you can use for repairs. Then flip the car next year -- it'll probably be worth $30K by then, auto prices always go up!
;-)
I am surprised you were able to contain your frustration and rage with casey this long. Duane also reached the point to where his bullshit and lies spilled over
WHAT I MEANT TO TYPE IS duane also reached the point to where caseys bullshit make him go over the edge with frustration witha all of CASEYS BULLSHIT AND LIES.
Mark I can kick your ass. I've seen your picture and you are a tiny little wimp. If you even tried to lay a finger on Casey I would kick the living shit out of you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pleather murse...
THAT is where Casey's mother comes in...signs are he (allegedly) got her as a cosigner for his corp. You see, he tapped out & ruined (allegedly) his wife's credit ages ago. It's also (allegedly) why Mom had to be named in the lawsuit.
I'm in love with fake rob dawg. Will you marry me pseudo dawg?
@CHJTS
The troll was to pathetic to consider as an actual impersonation of Rob. I may disagree with some of Rob's stances, but he has intelligence and thought behind them. This troll wouldn't even understand the 3 sylable words I use.
Greetings Gentlemen,
I have, only a few clicks ago, found a small error in the CASEYPEDIA entry for Tim from MBA. The article indicates Tim was not heard from again after his emotional barrage and subsequent apologies. In fact, he made one reserved post much after those events. One understands that the minuscule post I have directed you could be overlooked easily. For one, the concision in uncharacteristic of the author, and two, the sequence of letters MBA is of limited use in queries, as it appears frequently in the form of JAMBA.
It is right that this early contributor be recognized in The CASEYPEDIA. Might one draw a comparisons between that man and SERCASEY, evident immediately are the inverse degrees of meticulously. But I wonder if I am alone in the following postulation which ultimately favors SERCASEY: Tim's bloviating - and I write that respectfully as fellow gregariator - and repetition made me speculate on the sensitivity of his interpersonal skills, or rather his aloofness and seeming unawares of Casey's indifference to his advice. Though knowing TFMBA's professional experience, I may be interposing particular Asbergerian stereotypes common to that field onto this evaluation. Yet, his later destructive denouement maybe supports this notion- that is, that Casey's instinctual charm is one quality he has in greater abundance than the former contributor under examination.
As Always,
I L M S
"rather well thought out"
CHJTS,
When I was at the Capitol Garage I was wondering why no one slapped his biotch in his face...but it's hard to do in public.
The podcast comes alot more stronger than wheb he's sitting on a couch with a headphone on speaking real softly. The recording comes much stronger.
Casey was looking around and then at the door who was coming in! He's not a dumbazz, and he knows he can get his azz kicked anytime soon.
Spelling and nap time are two symptoms of the serinitis disease.
out of respect for rob..I have removed my post on hurting the trollz.
That is a good idea. I will do it after I open my mail and finish tomorrows nap time.
@Edgar.
Do the people who know you in real life find you as tiresome, unimaginative and unclever as those of us in cyberspace?
I can't exactly say you are as transparent as your trolls because I haven't figured out if you are Casey or one of Marty's rent-a-trolls.
My bet is Casey since, well, being homeless he has plenty of time to find free wi-fi at night.
Relentless,
Don't deal with these people. I've already concluded it's not worth my time or energy. They love Casey and will do anything to take the heat off of him.
Real Estate is not a higher education industry. We all know that.
Half the people in the industry are out to make a bigger buck and screw the "new" guy buying the house.
Duane seems like a cool guy on the outside, but I must agree, he made lots of money being on someone's other larger fast cash coattail.
Edgar,
Regardless of any possible merits to any of your questions or comments the general feeling is that it isn't worth the effort based on past attempts. Sorry.
Oh, and try not to ask "when did you stop beating your wife" type questions.
to the other robdawg,
You don't see a problem with being so ashamed of your own self that you feel the need to try and ineptly impersonate someone you claim to disdain?
Bemused,
It's all about creating cover for Casey. He'll say it isn't, but he proves to me he is doing that very thing.
Those who are now picking on Duane because Mark left are not paying attention to the guy. Seems some have their priorities wrong...unless those priorities include attacking people who have done NOTHING but state an opinion (you, me, other posters).
That kind of shit proves to me this is about causing confusion and backbiting among regular posters here.
This bears repeating from the last thread.
CASEY - This note's for you.
We know you read here. And you must be piddling yourself with glee right now seeing the dissent in the forum.
I am sure your mind is seeing this as the Haterz feeding on each other & full of dissent, becoming Haterz of Haterz.
Once again - WRONG. Debate is healthy & we may not all agree with each other's tactics but one thing we all agree? You're a menace, a fraud & a loozer.
.... That's just me trying to nip any posts by you & your dwindling fanz club.
Michael,
Just like any other successful businessman. C'mon people...sheesh.
So when you shop in a Whole Foods do you realize they are buying their immediate competition to make more money?
When you shop at Target or Wal Mart, do you realize those companies are notorious for doing many things that keeps the bottom line as low as possible?
Disney is notorious for their bottom line practices.
Many successful businesses make money. Why shouldn't Duane? From what I've seen there is nothing about him that even reeks of hurting people. If you can prove me wrong, please do. I doubt you will because I've researched Duane before I decided to email him. I made a huge mistake assuming he was something he wasn't and he set me straight. Funny thing, when I emailed him back I had done my homework and felt he was the real deal (who he represents himself as).
He admits he wanted some SEO out of Casey. In return he'd PAY Casey to host his sponsorship and that Casey would go and negotiate with his creditors. Guess what? You know the story after that.
Why hate Duane?
Bemused,
Good post.
The nice thing about the Bottom Line tactics of Disney, Walmart, Target down to the smaller independents like Duane & LMP?
They pay their taxes like almost the rest of us. And like even a few of us, in all the countries where they do business.
HEY CASEY - file yet?
Rob,
You mean people really waste time registering numerous names to make it look like they are different people. LOL and those idiots say we have no lives.
That is pretty pathetic. Guess they don't have any faith in their message or they know it's extremely hard to defend a fuck up like Casey, but they try anyway.
Bemused,
Bless you for that response, my friend. You saw where I was going with that.
Thanks for that!
Michael:
You mentioned last night that Casey went to get some documents from his truck to show you -- what were they?
I like this quote:
"He admits he wanted some SEO out of Casey. In return he'd PAY Casey to host his sponsorship and that Casey would go and negotiate with his creditors. Guess what? You know the story after that. "
And how he's in the gig to do the right thing? Front Casey for being a swindler? Help one side and then going to the other after Casey "burned" him".
I'm saying....Duane will play both sides of the boards.
Look him in the eye and ask him if he would burn you. Look Casey in the eye and ask if he would burn you.
Bottom line both will do what they need to make "SWEET" cash.
Bemused,
Wonder if Casey realizes that Hammar will owe the FTB next year (LOL).
He does business exclusively here regardless of which state his business is registered in.
No matter what, he will have to answer to somebody. The IRS isn't too cool about large corp losses.
@Dolph
Well, look. We all know that Marty "deep pockets" Stewie Griffin is probably paying his trollz a very small sum to register & troll here.
That leads me to believe they are not bright or on summer vacation. Let's try & sneak some education & civics lessons in on them.
Edgar..aka mort is a troll plain and simple.
Notice how when LMP decides to take a hiatus to concentrate on his pending litigation against the multiple mortgage serial fraudster casey serin, how the trollz now turn to try and discredit duane.
You are a pathetic spineless coward. ALl of those questions you ask have already been covered and answered. Its amazing how you have to try with the disinformatio nand propaganda technique that we have come to expect out of caseys camp.
Duane and Lossmit are stand up MEN. They are stepping up and doing something productive regarding this conman scamartist wife deserter casey serin.
Unlike yourself, that has to go around posting on a haterzblog regarding your hero snowflake.
It is amazing how much PR control marty and his fuckups have been in since his super secret JV agreement was exposed for the crock of shit and scam it is.
Michael,
I disagree, but I believe Duane felt he could change Casey. If you disagree with me, I appreciate that you are trying to discuss this point.
Bemused,
Edgar is not a single person and they are long time involved now with a recently renewed strong interest in making sure no more damaging information comes out.
They are trying to cloud every issue and attack anyone who threatens to expose their involvement.
Don't believe me. Look for yourself at the quantity and depth and resources called upon to press their disinformation campaign. Look at the various styles, the varied lines of attack, the occasional post that seemingly ignores past exchanges.
Bemused,
I'll try but the one or two posters pretending to be many are getting boring.
I will continue to slip facts in here when I see the need :)
Shark: We know he's many of the personas that have very similar posting styles. I think we are whistling in the wind. They love to make it personal. Why don't they just admit they love Casey and see nothing wrong with one thing he's done. If they did that, I'd have a little respect for him/them.
We know they have questionable ethics or else they wouldn't try to make this about other people.
We all know that Marty ... is probably paying his trollz a very small sum to register & troll here.
Is there any evidence for this, or is it just an exurban legend?
I've noticed that. You can reply and either you get an immediate insult or the same line fed back to the factual posts.
Don't get me wrong.
I like Duane....He's a Southern Boy with Southern Hospitality.
Yet, you are saying he tried to get on Casey's site to promote business?
Why even be there in the first place and decide to do business with a shady deal.
At this point, I think Duane was working the buck to make a bigger name for himself.
If it's not fact there sure are a lot of folks willing to overlook Casey's ethics. That's freaking sad.
I don't mind if somebody has issues with Duane and Mark, they are big boys who can handle their business. I only point out facts to counter the ones that take it to extreme lows.
Edgar AKA Mort:
Why did you delete a bunch of your earlier posts on this thread? I'm certainly not complaining because it's less drivel to have to scroll through, but I was just curious...
Michael,
At the time, Duane doesn't deny this. He thought he could HELP Casey. If I had come to IAFF around the time Duane did, I'd most likely believe Casey at first by looking at all the hater posts (It looked like maybe he was being picked on if you didn't know better).
I believe Duane slowly realized that not only was being associated with Casey bad for business, it was Casey's lack of follow through that put him off for good.
I will take Duane's word that he saw a business opportunity, didn't understand the extent of the hate for Casey and found out the hard way and backed off when Casey ignored his requests to settle his debts.
Again, we can disagree and I am fine with that. What I am saying is that Duane is not the bad guy he is being painted as.
Oh, Stewie Griffin is in this mess up to his soon to be hair-plugged forehead.
Well, Dolph, just because you aren't paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get you.
That said, I've been reading Rob Dogberts blog since long before Lost Mittens was even a twinkle in casey's eye.
I found it through patrick.net.
I don't think Casey has a case to argue if buying 8 houses on no doc loans was the right thing to do.
Casey is guilty in my book.
Also, I would say that people who most recently decided to involve themselves into his scheme have decided to make money off his unfortunate opportunities.
They are his web of things....and making their buck...
Don't act like people can't see through this sh@t.
bunch of pathetic fucking trollz.
Mort, go choke on pinklips tranny manhood will ya.
Duane has already on multiple occasions CLEARLY stated what his deal with casey was and He went into GREAT DETAIL regarding it.
Let me say this again since your obviously thickheaded and slow to absorb information.
DUANE has fully disclosed his entire business relationship with casey.
Do you got that?
Now we can sit here and argue back and forth on the internet, that is fine....not really my style but that is fine.
In person I am actually a man of little words. If someone like yourself says things like you do to my face....I dont talk it out or talk about it.
Now that being said, we can continue with our rants back and forth to each other because the bottom line is you wouldnt get two words out of your mouth if you were standing in front of me.
So let me say in advance so you will have to think of a better response:
1. YEP I am a psycho.
2. Yep I have what others would call anger management issues.
3. Yep, I am an internet tough guy (care to find out?).
4. Nope, my anger has never gotten me in trouble with the law.
5. Yes I am an ubalanced asshole.
I think that about covers it.
Harold,
Sorry for asking this, but who's out to get me (or were you talking about us all in general)?
I don't question that you've been here for awhile. I am a realist...I don't get paranoid but I am one to share my numerous observations.
Thanks...
Why did [Edgar] delete a bunch of your earlier posts on this thread?
Because the story line was getting confusing with so many authors and they got new orders to lay off Mark and witch to Duane. Gee now who would be so hot on Mark up and only up to the point he says he's laying low?
Galina,
I know you have allot of pride, BUT when you get a final decree divorce from casey and move on with your life.
I will personally deliver $2000 USD to you. Or mail it to you.
I know you have allot of pride Galina and that will problably stop you from taking anything like this. But the offer is there.
Michael,
I don't question that you think he's guilty. I am just trying to post a counterpoint argument about Duane and LMP from my own experiences. What's done is done, it's time to hold the real villain here accountable. HE knows he's guilty but sees an opportunity to strike back at two people who got too close.
If you are referring to me that I am acting like I don't think people can see through "shit," I don't know what you are talking about. To infer that implies I think you are stupid. If I thought that, I'd say it. I try to be "naked" and "organic" but I do a better job than flipturd.
Why weren't you fEckers at the Capitol Garage to face Casey?
No one showed up...just me..and another hater.
That was it...I think most people who have been here for at least "three" months can understand the situation.
So either put up or show up at the Casey pitchfork crusificion.
And anytime you want my number you have it. No one was willing to accept my pictures when I was taking them!!!!! Technology is a bitch but I was there.
Rob,
When I posted earlier I was frustrated. Taking a step back made me realize it's a game to them and they are very bad at it.
They don't seem to get that when you waste time creating posting IDs with established poster names, that they better do a kick ass imitation or they get outted.
Dolph
"I'll try but the one or two posters pretending to be many are getting boring."
That's what I was talking about.
It's getting a little us v. teh world.
Also, moar infrastructure posts.
TIA.
Michael...
I live in SoCal. If I lived up there, I'd do it.
Harold,
It's cool. I know who's naughty and I know who's for real. I sometimes will not visit the blog for a couple days at a time, so when I finally logged in after a day and a half, this afternoon, I saw tons of posts but didn't realize the extent of the trolling until I came back later.
Harold -
BTW, I agree. I also find a lot to learn from when Rob posts non-Casey analysis (infrastructure, housing woes, etc).
harold,
good news, a bunch of transport, technology and land use topics are piling up. I sense a Casey free zone cropping up soon.
If you don't want to give you number that is cool..I understand it.
But what really got me was the pitchfork attitude an no one doing shit! No one showed up.
I'm sure there are more people following this story in North Cal than me. JUST ME!
It was very disappointing to see people talk shit on the internet but never show up to the "BIG SHOW".
I lost a lot respect for people on this blog, including RobDawg.
@Dawg:
Hmm, who indeed. I thought it was odd that so many posts had been removed by such a prolific troll.
Thanks Rob.
And I'll admit I was a bit of a lurker about those things, so I recognize it was as much my fault as anything that things veered away - so to speak.
In the future, I will 'try' and contribute more to those topics.
Michael:
It's not like everyone knew days in advance where Casey was going to be for the Fraudcast and could make arrangements to attend. I could be wrong, but I think many Haterz have commitments outside of EN (gasp) that make it difficult to drop everything at a moment's notice. No need to lose any respect for anyone.
FWIW, I was on the lookout for lesser-spotted Casey appearances when he was in the Portland area. Sadly, none were forthcoming.
I L M S,
Regarding your 10:17 PM, I did consider including that Tim MBA post yet the writing style seemed quite different from the typical Tim comment. The most obvious red flag was the uncharacteristic brevity. You don't believe it's a troll?
I lost a lot respect for people on this blog, including RobDawg.
From 400 miles away it is a bit difficult. There is also a delicate balance managing the mob rule you think is being fomented. Everyone plays a part.
At this point any identified haterz™ engaging in person would play into Casey's latest disinformation attempts at portraying him as a victim being stalked rather than a criminal trying to hide.
I forgive everyone out of the SacArea for not showing up.
Once he said his location, I was there...
"Do I have time?" Hell, yeah since the podcast last at least two hours and we all know that people like to talk!
It really baffled me that all those talking shit on the phone never came through.
Shake his hand, beat his azz, give him a gift cerficate....no one showed up.
I felt like a dumbazz thinking I had support!
Finally I think I need to devote a site that "Allows Scammers To Pay My Way in Life...Both Sides Of The Story.."
Finally, I think INXS is the best..then the Replacements..
Finally, I think INXS is the best
Well at least that Micheal Hutchins (sp-?) dood knocked boots with Kylie when she was still hottish.
I was at work, preparing to leave, looking at EN when a commenter noted KC was at Capitol Garage. It happens to be on my way home. I happened to have the time. And I debated whether to go - I most certainly don't want to stalk KC and though I was very tempted to step on his foot, I didn't. I am still not certain that going there was the right thing to do or whether I am proud of it. ANd I am certainly not going to be critical of anyone choosing to stay home rather than ogle a deluded homeless individual in need of a haircut.
I am proud, however, that M SINGH left a comment on my blog!
OH, I forot to include this stupid comment.
I remain (the same asshole I was before I said I remain).
Thanks
Mike
Our people are getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan yet we are supposed to research CashCall and support an asinine lawsuit to put that "dangerous" criminal Casey Serin behind bars. Or else we are trolls, Casey lovers, malibox bashers, enablers. Or have to put up with bullshit and pure vileness like CHJTS - " Now onto the little fuckers that seem to take pleasure in mark leaving: You do a disservice to JUSTICE."
What the fuck ever. This place has become ridiculous - let Casey's parents and wife deal with him,as well as the appropriate creditors. Law enforcement if they feel it is justified. The witchhunt for Casey Serin is being fueled on this blog in order to get more viewers. A scrawny kid blogging from a restaurant that all of us should keep a gun under our pillows to protect ourselves from - give me a fuckin break already. And some of you posters like CHJTS act like you can't get a good nights sleep until Casey "Charles Manson " Serin is behind bars.
Frankly Rob Dawg I don't give two shits about investigating CashCall - adults should be accountable for their own actions. If you have that much time to waste use your literary talents to appeal to the overfed politicians to get our men and women at the very least body armor and vehicles that will protect them against IEDS and RPGS. Casey hasn't killed anyone, is very likely not to kill anyone, so direct your resources to people that really need it. Same for you Duane and CHJTS. Your modern day vigilantism has worn thin - turn off the computer and go back to your lives. The 15 minutes of fame is addictive, eh?? Now CHJTS is gonna be on HOW many times this week - 3? On HIS show doing it HIS way as he keeps reminding everyone? Dude, you have really jumped the shark. And make sure your wife knows about the 2G you are promising to someone you have never met.
Peace Out and I am outta here for good - got much better things to do with my time.
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