Welcome back,
To that same old place that you laughed about.
Well the names have all changed since you hung around,
But those dreams have remained and they're turned around.
Who'd have thought they'd lead ya (Who'd have thought they'd lead ya)
Here where we need ya (Here where we need ya)
Yeah we tease him a lot cause we've hot him on the spot, welcome back,
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
----
Once a NRUtard a;ways an NRUtard.
I'm sure sometime in a few hours after a solid night nap our young ambitious entrepeneur will wake pale rested and ready to take on the awesome responsibilities of facing the consequences. The sure knowledge that things cannot possibly get any worse, that this is the seventh circle, the stygian depths hold no more terors will certainly sustain him.
And still we can observe and passively contain the damage. For one I observe that there still is core realization necessary for recovery. Casey still complains about what has happened, what has been done to him and his family. IMO until we start hearing about him talking about what what he has done, what he has caused then there is no hope. An honest suggestion: For whatever time it has left, change the title of IAFF to "Saving my family , friends an those I've harm and perhaps saving myself in the process."
94 comments:
FIRST
Murst
A FIRST a day keeps...well, me the King of FIRSTS!
Turd
I had a business professor tell me once you can be great in math and accounting but that's just part of it. You need ideas and know-how to be successful in business.
Casey proves the converse of tha to be true. I won't give him total credit for know-how, but he shows how great ideas only go so far before the lack of math/accounting hurts you.
Mixth!
Here's a conspiracy theory for you all:
Casey Serin is a troll character created by the Big Dawg himself (Rob Dawg) who does really really stupid things in order to drive traffic to EN.
Is Bubba Brigham a regular poster here? His material is pretty funny.
@Bubba
Boring. Try again. Try harder next time.
@Mocha fan
To what end? Rob isn't monetizing this blog, he does it for free. Rob has captured a lot of the traffic, yes, but he doesn't make a dime from it.
Yep, a Camp Idiot pussy. Thought so.
Damn it HeeKee, get your server up so the mouthbreathers will stop running up and down the halls shrieking and wiping boogers everywhere?
Casey's failed housing deals
Casey's failed vending machine business
Casey's failed MLM deals
Casey's failed NRU education
Casey's failed marriage
Casey's failed "secret book"
Casey's failed joint-venture agreement
Casey's failed credit
Casey's failed wives credit
@m & p:
Just a little speculative faceitious remark that is all ;)
Casey's failed wives credit
I think Casey failed his wife here. But in a forward motion so itsallgood.
She is so much better without him!
...the mouthbreathers will stop running up and down the halls shrieking and wiping boogers everywhere...
hahaha!
Ask not for whom the belle trolls,
She trolls for thee...
Casey Serin is a troll character created by the Big Dawg himself (Rob Dawg) who does really really stupid things in order to drive traffic to EN.
You mean just because the plot twists seem to be scripted and leaked in advance? Because the ensemble cast apears to get killed off only to return in new roles? Because the whole saga resembles "A litlle song, a little dance, a little seltzer down you pants?"
Sorry, if I could write this stuff there'd be a whole lot better stuff on TV. 5 days until Season 2 of Eureka.
M&P
Please be careful when lumping everyone into Camp Idiot. 10-12 people post there when it's working. These guy are from WFT.
@Dawg
This is StephanieS...How do I get my google account to say StephanieS and not sideboth.
Thanks
Steph, go to www.blogger.com and log in. Then change your account settings where it says, "name appears as" or something like that.
11:33 AM, I L M S said...
~~ From The Desk Of I L M S~~
~~ since 2011 ~~
Dear Gentlemen,
I have been pondering SERCASEY's marital status and wish to share my ideas with the group.
Holy cow! That is one of the most astute things I have read on EN. I have only been reading IAFF.com and EN for probably 2 months. This my first post.
To answer the question at the end: Now I am at my question for the group, and that is: will you view Casey's future actions as unfavorably now that he is separated, as you would were he to still be married?
I view Casey on a precipice, peering into the void. He can jump one way or another, jump to one side and it could be a fast or slow decline into the abyss, where there are monsters, jump to the other side and there could be redemption. It is a great existential crises he faces. I left him the following comment on his blog, but do not know if it will be published due to a php error, and when I attempted to re-submit the comment it was flagged as a duplicate, so, I do not if Casey will see it or not. Some say he reads here, some doubt this. His situation reminds me of a poem.
For we have thought the longer thoughts,
And gone the shorter way.
And we have danced to devils' tunes,
Shivering home to pray;
To serve one master in the night,
Another in the day.
-E. Hemingway
Here is my one IAAF.com post;
'...and I’m not welcome home.'
I like you Casey. You are unique. But, you have to admit that the above quote can't really surprise you that much. I wish you all the luck in your personal life, and hope that you can find happiness in that life.
Don't let the bastards get you down. The way to truly show them is to work hard, preferably at something you like, but even at something you may hate, just to earn some dough, and have the blog. I am talking like working 80 to a 100 hours a week, like a 40 hour a week job, a part time job that 15 hours a week, and 15 hours a week on the blog. Earn some dough, make some payment, and save what you can. No get quick rich schemes for at least after five years of making payments, working, blogging, and saving. You will learn a lot about people by working alongside them. I recommend a job as a night auditor at a decent hotel. You really only work 5 to 6 of the 8 hours you are there, and they just have to pay someone to be there the rest of the time. No one else wants to work this shift, so you are also liked at work.
This 5 year plan will give you the experience that you need in dealing with people. After that 5 years take your savings and do what you want with it. Invest in the craziest get rich quick scheme that you find, think of, or that finds you, if you like. But I believe after working at least 80 hours per week you will learn something of yourself, pay off some, or all of your debt, and may not want to invest that dough in some crazy scheme, but in yourself, and that will show the bastards.
and yes, I know that wasn't intended for me but I changed my name like an hour or so ago and so it was fresh in my head :)
Southern,
You left out:
Failed at being condo owner
Failed at being landlord
Failed at internet hosting
Failed at web design
Looks like we might have us a good contender for CaseyPedia's entry on Casey's running-list of failures? :)
When I think of Fliptard's situation, the song that sticks in my mind is "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dylan.
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
People call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
You thought they were all kiddin' you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin' out
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
With best wishes,
NR
@ Rob Dawg:
Casey brought this all on himself, and he plays right into the "haterz" hands by continuing to blog.
I only really started to get into his story after he re-opened IAFF and went away to Australia.
to everyone: do any of you guys know why Casey didn't stay very long with his Aussie supporterz? Did he have a falling out with them?
20,000 people knew yesterday that Casey would not be welcomed home. Only 1 person on the entire planet was surprised by that event. And you know he was genuinely caught unawares. Read everything before he got to Sacto. There really is a reality distortion field.
Casey's semi-homosexual murse wearing ways probably annoyed his Aussie supporterz.
The supporterz probably wanted to punch him in the face the minute he requested fresh oranges with wheatgrass and a blender.
Thank you @SouthernBread...
Much appreciated
Bubba Brigham: LOL. But I thought you were a supporter-troll, not a murse-bashing one ;)
Well, I thought this is where things might be heading. While I may not be intimately familiar with the law, and certainly not with California law, I don't think any judge will allow a civil suit to continue while criminal charges are pending.
Maybe discovery could still be allowed, perhaps this is the cunning plan?
mocha fan,
If it weren't for the people who work through EN Casey would have had some monster blog numbers as thousands would have flocked to his story from the sweet media exposure and his world travelling announcements. Instead he was forced onto the defensive answering tough questions.
There is still so much to tell. Everytime I hear about him putting money -into- the joint account I just have to bite my lip. Someday soon he'll slip and more will be exposed. If you think readers are impatient imagine how much worse for the printer.
I can't believe he is actually going to go through with having his Fraudcast tonight. It just boggles my mind. For some reason, to me, Casey holding court on a Fraudcast tonight is ,almost, the worst thing he has done thus far. I know that's an incorrect impression but I can't figure out why I can wrap my head around everything else, but not this.
I'm a haterz when it comes to Casey. He belongs in prison.
But I'm also a haterz when someone violated another man's marriage... gets involved...whispers thoughts into the woman's ears.... plants doubts and questions... then acts like they're doing "the right thing".
Casey's marriage probably would have broken up on it's own... but when two men get involved where they don't belong, that's not cool.
Duane and Mark would never try that stunt to a real man's wife. They try it on a semi-homosexual murse boi, and giggle like girls on their haterzcast about how they're destroying his marriage.
rob dawg said...
Only 1 person on the entire planet was surprised by that event.
I don't really think he was surprised. He had to know it was coming sooner or later. He has to know that you can't live on credit forever, and that the bill will come due.
You all give him the business because you gave him good advice and he did not follow it. You give him the business because he has not learned that you can not live on credit. I don't blame you for giving him the business. There is a book called 'The Secret Pilgrim,' by John LeCarré which addresses living on credit, and I would highly recommend it to yourselves and Casey. Most of the best things in life I learned out of books, most of the worst, I learned from people.
Did that work
Yes.
I wonder if Galina changed the locks to the vdubs.
I have a few links that Casey could use. One is for a great lawyer who could use some Casey-style polish. The second is ten step plan to stop thinking like a loser.
Bubba brigham,
How do you know two men are giving marital advice? Is "California is a common asset/debt state" marital advice? Since you know the inner workings perhaps you can provide rough percentages of where she is listening? Her pastor? Her immediate family? Her extended family? Friends? Attorneys? Others?
Or you can answer the same question casey insider could not.
You are drawing inferences without enough facts and presenting your speculation as basis for your personal attacks. Oh, and no secondary spouse naming. Isn't that clear by now?
@Old
I think you are wrong. He is surprised. In Casey's mind, he is a legend. Look at all the websites that he has inspired. Duane and Mark (with due respect to both) keep saying he's special and that once he straightens out his life he will be successful.
I think he is a conman that will never get it. This was his 15 minutes of fame and it's coming to an end and will never come back. Casey will continue the "grey" areas but it will be sad and pathetic. It already is sad and pathetic but he will not be a 24 year old kid, he will be a 30 something has been.
Just reminding Duane and Mark about the good old days, when they were the ones hated on.
Northern,
Pink Floyd captures Casey pretty well with Brain Damage/Eclipse
"But I'm also a haterz when someone violated another man's marriage... gets involved...whispers thoughts into the woman's ears.... plants doubts and questions... then acts like they're doing "the right thing"."
the problem with wives (and also husbands) is that they tend to delude themselves. By your reasoning, Bubba, Battered Wives shelters would be a horrible thing.
Just remember one thing, Galina contacted Duane, and Duane has steadfastly denied suggesting any course of action for their marriage.
The future is for Galina to decide, but she did need someone to tell her the simple truth. Her husband needs help, help that apparently a family intervention can't provide.
@stephanies
See, I think Casey can either work 80 to 100 hours per week and start paying for 5 years, or he can continue on this path which will end badly.
The_Dude,
My gosh, someone needs to put on The Wizard of Oz and turn it up :)
rob dawg,
It was inevitable that those who opposed Casey (haterz) would eventually organize their resources and bring him down.
Funny thing this Internet, it's the first form of media where people can call other people's bullsh*t. In the old days of broadcast television, the ones who controlled the medium could slant the story any way they chose. There was no way for those who thought critically about these things to talk to each other--the opposition to mainstream/corporate media was disorganized.
The old media masters now complain bitterly that people now get their news and information from sources that conform and validate their biases. THAT IS PERFECTLY fine as far as I'm concerned, otherwise, the conniving real estate investors would still be trying to find suckers to invest in their pyramid scams.
Maybe so, Landlord.
But do you think a woman in her 40s would feel that some girl is seeking her husband out for marriage advice?
A good southern Christian woman would feel that the emotional involvement that her husband is showing towards a 25 year old girl is almost like cheating.
That middle age woman's pastor would feel the same way.
And Rob, I'm going by what I see and hear. I think D&M have ulterior motives here. They wanted to get into business with scam boi. They knew what he was, and sought him out!
http://money.cnn.com/2007/07/05/real_estate/futureshock_Florida_housing_will_fall/index.htm?postversion=2007070610
@Old
I have been waiting for this to end badly but it keeps going and going and going. The thing that confuses me is if Duane and Mark knew how bad it really was...why keep on helping him. Casey has had chance after chance after chance. And if we are to believe him, he still has people giving him money.
The blog will slow to a trickle but Casey will continue the shadiness not anything of his former glory but this whole ride has been a hight for him. He will be the junkie looking for the next high as good as the first and he will resort to more and more desperate mesures to obtain it.
The sad thing is, I don't think that even this will register with him, will make him repent or feel remorse in any way. He's just going to do his usual thing of turning it on us; WE ruined his life, WE made his wife and family hate him. He is incapable of recognizing fault with himself.
And Bubba, I do think there's a point where it's OK to suggest to a woman that people are willing to help her if she frees herself of her man.
He is a criminal, this isn't just a vendetta because he dresses funny. If you knew that a girl's husband was secretly a serial killer, wouldn't you tell her? This isn't a matter of trying to move in on the girl to have her for yourself, this is a case of trying to help her get away from someone dangerous, who hurts people and who hurts her. Casey doesn't have anything left any more except the ability to hurt people, and as his wife, she'd be on the receiving end of a lot of it. (and already has been) Not hitting, mind you, but abuse is a abuse, and it doesn't have to be fists. Lying, abandonment, shredding her credit, education, and future, and his callous, hateful disinterest work just as well.
@Bubba,
I have to disagree. My wife, being the Deep Southern Belle she is, feels secure enough in our marriage where she doesn't worry about me like that. I have a female employee who was going through the same thing. We offered her a place to stay and some quick cash while she was trying to get an apartment rented and setup. We gave her council when her ex was trying to take her retirement from her.
The long and short of it is, we should help the weak. That is the Christian thing to do.
Bubba,
Mark and Duane sought him out all right, but I'm not so sure they knew the extent of nonsense they were dealing with.
They sure found out in a hurry!
S_t_C
Don't worry, Duane or Mark. I would never ever contact you or your family.
I'm not like you guys.
I'm sure you guys are good guys overall, and the fact that you guys built your own businesses (even though it's related to real estate) is admirable.
But the way you guys are acting like scorned lovers towards Casey is wrong. All because your "business arangement" with scam boi broke off.
How sexist is it that people think that Galina must have been either led or pushed into kicking Casey out?
It can't be easy to be her. Give her some credit for waking up to her mistakes and standing up for herself.
@stephanies
You may be right.
I think Casey has faced more than one existential crises, and chose to buy another property on credit, then another, and so on. We all know you can't live on credit your whole life, that at some point the bill comes due, and you have to pay. Casey is learning this. He could learn it the hard way, or the easy way, but the easy contains working 80 to 100 hours per week. Who knows which way a man will go in an existential crises. I refer to the 'Flitcraft Story' from 'The Maltese Falcon' by Dashiell Hammett.
I still think G (see Rob, no first names!) was in on it.
She attended the same seminars that Casey did. It's all documented in his earth mission blog.
Her sister is a property owner, and her mother is an engineer. These are not stupid people.
She's shocked that it blew up in fliptard's face, and didn't expect the debts.
But if you get involved in "get-rich-quick" schemes... you have to know there's something shady about them.
Dude,
Sadly, my computer here at W-2 land has no speakers. But in defense of my song choice, it also has great (and applicable) lines such as
You say you never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He's not selling any alibis
or
Ah, you never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all did tricks for you
or
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say do you want to make a deal?
or
When you got nothin', you got nothin' to lose
You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
Even your firstness can't blind you to the aptness of Dylan's lyrics to our antihero.
NR
@northern renter
'Even your firstness can't blind you to the aptness of Dylan's lyrics to our antihero.'
I am not Dude, and first, but I can't argue either. Well done, sir.
Okay, playing the objective card. Bubba, I have to admit I do have doubts as well as to have far her envolvement goes. I kind of feel she went to the seminars, but never really understood what it was they were doing.
I've never been to a scaminar, but I have been approached more times than I care to imagine, by MLM's. They speak so quickly about the lifestyle and gloss over the work envolved that you get confused and start to only focus on the lifestyle. I think she could have bitten in and just thought Casey would knock out all of that. I feel she felt her "role", would be to budget and organize (Casey's weak points) in order to be supportive.
I don't feel she had any idea they would end up doing more than one or two houses at a time. I also feel as soon as she got overwhelmed with all Casey was doing, she kind of was hands-off and just put trust that Casey would do what he would do. But I don't feel she intentionally did any unethical or illegal activities, unlike snowflake.
I still feel she does not deserve the person who dug the majority of this hole to just leave her to deal with the wolves.
again, just trying to be objective.
I've been following Casey since early Dec 2006. What surprises me is the fact that near total strangers would cooperate in the goal of getting a criminal like Casey to cease and desist(voluntarily or not). I would wager that very few on this forum knew of each other one year ago. Casey's blog brought us together ultimately. What I've witnessed with Duane, Mark and Dawg is ultimately internet vigilantism and that's not a bad thing at all. I think this is probably the 1st type of effort in internet history.
Casey's appalling gaucheness (remember the moderating/wheatgrass comment) is what made me figure out he was insane. What sort of person says such things? More than that, if anyone on here has shared their financial situation in public or considered it I'd like to know. What good does it do anyone let alone him to share their financial situation in any other venue than with a discreet professional.
Ultimately Casey is symptomatic of what's going wrong with this country. Where were the loan officers of Wells Fargo and Countrywide to verify that what he said was true? Who looked out for the shareholders and public at large? It seems no one, since it did not affect them personally no one cared. My .02
Having Casey work off his debt or even try is a fantasy. Come on people, it is time to move on. Time to realize, accept and understand that any possible outcome will not include any sort of effort on Casey's part. The fact that he won't work hard may be blinding some to the underlying bit about he CAN'T work hard. He just can't. He's wired wrong was one way it has been described. It's been a decade since his first public scam failure and every one since then has failed as well. Every exit strategy from all his failures has involved more scamming not less. He can't stop scamming, he can't stop blogging, he can't see the damage he leaves in his wake.
"I still think G (see Rob, no first names!) was in on it.
...
But if you get involved in "get-rich-quick" schemes... you have to know there's something shady about them."
That's probably a reasonable viewpoint. Afterall, G would have benefited had Casey made his speculative bets in 2002.
However the simple fact is that we simply don't have all the facts. All that we have is the word of three people who claim to know far more than us (Casey, Mark and Duane) and they all concur that she pretty much had the wool pulled over her eyes.
In the absense of other evidence (the earlier blog proves that she was aware of his "investing", not nessecarily of his scams), I think I'll take their word for it.
As someone who has been following this since November 2006, the post by Duane in the last thread (that got removed by Rob) brought joy to my heart.
I understand why Rob removed it.
Sadly, my computer here at W-2 land has no speakers
You've gotta dump that looser W2 job and get some sweet passive income streams
So Rob, level with us, about how many "near posts" have you written out only to not be able to post for one reason or another? Not tht it's any of my business, but I bet there are a lot :)
Anybody gonna call into the Fraudcast tonight?
Dawg - I think it's about time you made an appearance...
S_t_C
@rob dawg said...
Having Casey work off his debt or even try is a fantasy.
Perhaps you are correct. I query though, has Casey ever come this close to the brink before? A lawsuit, separation from wife, and family strife, all at the same time. This is an existential crises, and something that I would not wish upon anyone. It is a bed of his own making, and it may be even to late to climb out of it. What then, though? Scams? Suicide? or Jail? It can only end badly. His only redemption is through work.
Posts that have gone pending?
Well there's the whole Duane 3.x series. Remember parts 0,1,2, and 4? So you can imagine.
There is the details of the US side of the Aussie Adventure. Lots there.
Then there are the filed and pending legal strategies. The LE background bits. There's examples of previously unreported scams. On and on.
Dozens easy.
Old
I was wondering the same thing earlier today on some other posts I made.
I played the "CashFlow 101/102 and 202" game on my pc last night. I got it because of Casey's references to how great it was. I played it and keep seeing how there are attempts to throw reality in to everything, but not enough.
It makes assumptions like you will get a deal that says, buy a 3bd/2ba house that will appreciate 45% and give you $200 a month in sweet passive income. Yet it doesn't tell you about, bad tenets, "buying" versus "renting neighborhoods, float months, repairs, depreciative markets, and other things that can go wrong if you do not have a solid financial base to support it.
I am convinced it wouldn't matter which market Casey bought his houses, he would eventually fail as badly as he has. I even feel he would be in further debt had he been successful for the first 2/3 houses.
Dawg,
What is holding up the previously unreported scams? I don't see how that needs permission from family members.
Casey is the type that thrives on the edge. Probably thinks of himself as Aladdin in the Disney interpretation; Street wise, street smart, quick on his feet, surviving one step adhead of disaster. Feel free to run the entire story and make comparisons to other characters and plot elements.
Dawg: Dozens easy.
You're such a tease. Surely you can let us know some juicy details, it's all good right?
After that last audio pounding, you would think Snowflake would ditch tonight's Fraudcast.
Got to give him credit, he will take a beating just to remain on the air...
H
I've been out of the loop a lot this week and the thousands of comments here are bit too much.
However, I can't freakin' believe Casey thought he would still have a home to go to. That is narcissistic thinking at it's worst.
He seriously didn't think anyone was hurt? He seriously didn't think there would be consequences? This is just the beginning of a long line of nasty surprises for Casey that he has been told about by others for some time.
I don't even wish him luck anymore.
"I am convinced it wouldn't matter which market Casey bought his houses, he would eventually fail as badly as he has."
He would have made a killing if he coulda pulled it off here in London. Of course, we don't have Liar Loans here, so.... maybe not.
S_t_C
I DREAD the day my adorable little wife gets hold of that damnable Cashflow game. They have variants on it in Russia, too.
My wifelet is convinced that RE ever only goes up, and keeps trotting out examples of her friends who have made money in the last few years. I keep telling her that if RE were a guaranteed income, we'd all be doing it.
That, and she has the nesting instinct something fierce.
I should have also said that I am not advocating you post information that's confidential or harmful. But there's gotta be something. Come on, give us a bone dawg (I can't believe I just typed that last sentence).
"Street wise, street smart, quick on his feet, surviving one step adhead of disaster."
Have you ever seen Spike's "Most Extreme Elimination Challenge"? It's a Japanese game show overdubbed with American commentary. The contestants take part in an array of physical challenges and generally get ripped on.
There's one contest where they run across a small body of water using stepping stones that are either supported by posts or floating unsupported. The contestants make a run at the course and, typically, fall flat on their faces at some point. That's our boy.
Rob Dawg:
It's pretty inevitable that Casey is going to jail, however, I must admit, even I hoped he somehow could make a face turn, become an honest person and somehow turn everything around.
Casey likes to talk about "taking responsiblity" but he sweeps aside accusations of lying on mortgage applications as 'standard procedure' that was taught to him at the scamminars.
I'd like everyone to just watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoZV5jt9puc
I'm not articulate enough to describe how it relates to Casey, but this entire ponzi scheme of real estate investing will hurt a lot of people. I hope that every single one of these motherf**kers and cheerleaders who tried to sucker people into buying house they could not afford and scammed their way into riches become destitute and forced into all sorts of indignities.
I bought my house well before the market peaked and I REFUSED to cash in on my equity like an ATM machine. Instead, I'm making extra mortgage prepayments to the point of obsession and fanatical hatred of debt, and I hope to retire before the age of 40.
Dawg,
Fill in the blank for this question please. If all of Casey Serin's nefarious schemes and actions were divulged to all EN's in their full ugliness, _______% would want to head to Sacto and give him a small part of what's coming to him their outrage would be so great.
Poor G. She had no idea that they were living high off the hog on OPM. She had no idea they were taking on more debt than they had any hope of ever paying back. Wake up, who do you think helped to run those scams? Who do you think took the majority of pictures for his flamebait blog? She is just like the grifters down on Wall Street who rob pension funds and then wipe their mouths on their sleeve and say: "Wherein have I done wrong?" Tell it to the judge Pippi.
king friday the 13th said...
As someone who has been following this since November 2006, the post by Duane in the last thread (that got removed by Rob) brought joy to my heart.
I understand why Rob removed it.
Necessary for consistentcy. Here is a very slightly redacted version:
Duane LeGate has left a new comment on your post "Age of Limits":
If you wanted to know my wifes name, ask. Yes, she is proud. Shes out right now, but when she gets back you can speak with her.
As far as another mans wife...
A couple of things, you use the term "man" rather loosely. I am also involved in another good friend of ours (who happens to be a woman and a very good friend of [my wife's]) troubles. We are trying to help and guide her away from an abusive relationship. Its rather sad actually. But if people want help, and I can, I will.
Does that bug you in some way?
There's a lot more to the helping side of some of the people here. They can share if they wish but I just wanted to establish some limits to the veiled and increasingly blatant threats of outing. This isn't DHC or RCS.
Speaking of RCS, didn't some dipshit troll recently say it was coming back??
Looks like Duane is getting some national press coverage too:
http://money.cnn.com/2007/07/05/real_estate/futureshock_Florida_housing_will_fall/index.htm?postversion=2007070611
H
@southernbread
You walk a tight rope, you may fall off.
I am convinced it wouldn't matter which market Casey bought his houses, he would eventually fail as badly as he has. I even feel he would be in further debt had he been successful for the first 2/3 houses.
That is an interesting comment. I wonder what would have happened? I will confess here that for a bit I thought Duane LeGate was that guy from the TLC show, with the Trademark Properties business. Alas, I was dashed as from my reading Duane LeGate is not an internet handle. He would have had more dough to play with, that is for sure.
Rob Dawg said...
> Posts that have gone pending?
Give us a little something before the weekend (I'm NOT an addict, I can quit any time.... yeah...).
All the plot lines can't be under quarantine. Just a little bit to send us off for the weekend.
MOIST!!
Old,
You are referring to Richard. I've actually met him, my wife's family is from South Carolina and we looked at a couple of his houses. A real down-to-earth guy. It's a shame how the deal with A&E went down. Even the TLC deal wasn't what he wanted, but he has more flexibility.
Ok Bubba, with all due respect...
I am very confused by your stance here. You are basically saying that it's not okay for Mark & Duane to keep Casey in check? They know him way better than you or I because they WORKED with him. Both seem to tell the same story. What I don't get is why people like you tear them a new one for trying to keep this kid from causing anymore damage.
Did Duane NOT walk away once he realized the kid had no intention of going straight (not meant to be a pun, sorry) with his financial situation? Did Mark not walk away after realizing what everyone else told him would happen? So why is it wrong to try and right a wrong?
Using your logic, we should just let people do what they want and get away with it. If Casey was just a dummy who borrowed too much and blogged about it, nobody would care. No, the kid who once built a pyramid scheme decided to continue his reckless ways while ensnaring more folks into his web of fraud.
Using the logic of some, I guess if I had worked with a guy who had no intention to change but blogged that he was trying why would I not want to warn the world to watch out for that person? Why is this so foreign to some? Is it because you hate Duane and Mark? I'm sure they don't care either way who loves them or hates them since they are accomplished business people. I am sure they want respect as any legitimate business person does, but outside of that, why disparage what they are doing as wrong?
The logic kills me. Hate Casey for being a moron but go ahead and leave him be to do further damage. I just don't get it.
Which is it?
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@southernbread
Richard, you are right. It is kind of comical as me and my girlfriend have no desire to get in the real estate game, but we love those shows on TLC, A&E, and Home and Garden networks. We are far to conservative investors to take those sort of risks, but I can see where it would be tempting.
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