Tuesday, July 10, 2007

Courting Disaster


Keep in mind nothing is likely to happen today. The direction and extent of what will happen will be set in motion today. The outcome is unimportant. The court proceedings at 50 cents per page is what is important as those pages are eagerly awaited by uncounted numbers of others with material documanted losses.

170 comments:

Sac RE Agent said...

first dammit

Eric said...

5 minute murst!

Northern Renter said...

Must, biyatches.

Bwahahaha.


NR

Northern Renter said...

Shit, I misspelled murst again and I wasn't even murst.

Good thing I'm not defending myself in court today, or I'd have a fool for a client.


NR

Unknown said...

That's what the haterzcast money should be used for...purchase copies of the transcripts and post them for all to see.

Northern Renter said...

By the way, Dawg,

I don't recognize that particular image. Is it Charles I?

NR

Rob Dawg said...

Gustof Adolf negotiating with General Wallenstien.

mejustme said...

Is anybody known to be going? What time should we expect an update?

jiggreen said...

Whoo Hoo!!! This day has been a long time coming! I hope all goes well, and that this is the beginning of the end for our "serial fraudster".

mejustme said...

I was just thinking about one of the fraudulent inducement of employment cases I read about when I googled that phrase. This case was not successful because the plaintiff didn't totally believe the promise that had been made in the first place (how that was revealed wasn't stated).

I was thinking, the judge or Casey's side just has to show a reasonable person would have known or should have known that Casey's promises were not to be relied upon, which I think can easily be proven by posts at IAFF and EN.

I do realize that's not the kind of defense one wants to put up -- "Your honor, everyone knows I can't be trusted!" Still, the more I think about Mark's case, the flimsier it seems.

Rob Dawg said...

I haven't commented on the merits because I'm not qualified and more important, I don't care. Casey plus court plus a transcript equals a packet that every lender will be unable to ignore. Somebody is going to wave a sheaf of papers at every shareholders meeting demanding satisfaction. No, not Casey but when your dividend is suspended you use the Casey's to hold management responsible.

subsonic22 said...

Good call Rob. Impac won't pay dividends next quarter because of repurchases, foreclosures, write-downs, etc.

yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20070627:MTFH01631_2007-06-27_02-12-29_WEN9006&type=comktNews&rpc=44

I don't think Impac was one of Snowflake's lenders. But the somebody should have to answer to shareholders for financing so many bad loans.

Unknown said...

In one of the fraudcasts, Casey mentioned that part of Mark's plan to settle with lenders was for Casey to go to court and tell the court he was incapable of handling his own finances, and then request the court to appoint someone to handle his finances for him... perhaps Mark himself?

Anyway, I don't know about you but I'd never continue listenning to someone who wants me to declare myself incompetent in court, whether or not I could be incompetent. That would be with you for the rest of your life, rendering you de-facto unable to get employment. Not that Casey wants to work, but just to show you that Mark's plan was pretty stupid to begin with.

Mark's plan might have included some items here and there that no reasonable person would agree to. Casey could argue Mark didn't tell him at the start of the relationship the extent of what Casey had to agree with to continue having Mark's pro-bono services.

I don't think Mark has a strong case. This is for Casey to screw up. Any half-decent lawyer can have that case thrown out in a minute.

Bilgeman said...

mejustme:

"I was thinking, the judge or Casey's side just has to show a reasonable person would have known or should have known that Casey's promises were not to be relied upon, which I think can easily be proven by posts at IAFF and EN."

Oooooooh,YEAH!

For the hobbit to submit material from IAFF would be the bestest move he could possibly make,wouldn't it?

Bungee-jumping without the bungee, yessirree!

Unknown said...

Looks like Casey is about to win one against the Haterz. Mark is an idiot. Casey is right, the Judge is going to be pissed he had to show for this "Stupid Ex Parte Hearing"

I love watching Lawyers get Pwned. And Mark Villasenor is about to get PWNED by the biggest looser on teh interwebs. :popcorn:

Mouse And Pencil said...

How does Casey "win" one against us? Does it vindicate anything he's done? Hardly. Will it make us not Hate™ him? Not. This only effects Mark and Casey, it will not effect you, or the Haterz™, except provide more fodder to laugh at.

Oh, and last I checked, Mark is not a lawyer.

A koi was sunburned in the creation of this post. Sunburns are mostly caused by algea.

Dolph said...

Like I've said here and elsewhere, Mark's plan is to get Casey ON RECORD admitting either he is incompetent or a fraud.

If Mark loses and gets that on record, he did his job and should get a pat on the back no matter how anybody feels about him.

Property Flopper said...

Quantum -

> I love watching Lawyers get Pwned.
> And Mark Villasenor is about to get PWNED
> by the biggest looser on teh interwebs

Just to be clear, Mark is NOT a lawyer, he is not admitted to any state's bar and he has not attended law school.

He has watched too many episodes of "LA Law" and "Law and Order".

A lawyer would have brought a much stronger case to the court.

Ogg the Caveman said...

@ Flopper:

A lawyer would have brought a much stronger case to the court.

Indeed. Whatever can be said about Mark's motives (and I think very little can be said yet) the whole thing seems pretty amateurish. That could work out ok, given that he's suing Casey, but it could backfire instead.

Personally I would've hired a law-talking guy, but then I never would've gotten caught up in Snowflake's affairs in the first place.

Unknown said...

Why does everyone assume Mark is going lose? This is what he does for a living...You think that he has never had to sue anyone before. He may not be a lawyer but I'm sure he is use to deadbeats that will not pay bills unless they are brought to court. It's also why he is bit of a hard-nose. Can we all just wait and see where the chips fall? Is that so hard to ask. If he loses, fine do your pee pee 2 year old dance. If he doesn't lose, who look stupid then...

Unknown said...

looks stupid then, (hmm at the moment, I look stupid)

Unknown said...

Mark isn't a lawyer but he claims to be an officer of the court, and also says to have filed a plethora of lawsuits, which he has always won.

Mark has developed those "skills" of his in the process of being a collector. Isn't that what they do? They call debt beats and threaten with taking them to court, making them lose their jobs, etc. etc. if they don't pay. You need to know a few legal terms like "liable" to impress those debt beats into taking you seriously. Of course, if the legalize doesn't get blood out of the stone, then a "I'll go for your neck" might do the job.

Bemused Guy said...

Even if Casey scores a "win" in court, he is still Casey. That, in my opinion, is a much bigger Looze.

Rob Dawg said...

StephS,
There isn't an assumption of Mark losing it is just that in a wierd way everyone is on the same side. The people who don't like Mark and/or what he is doing are saying the suit is stupid. The people who are focused on the bigger picture say, "okay, and your point?" If Mark "wins" all the better, free vegatables with your sirloin.

Peaceful Bystander said...

I sure hope Mark's case sticks. My biggest fear is the judge throws it out as frivolous.

If (s)he does, that will be a huge win for the Casey camp -- it will reinforce his belief, as well as his supporters, that he didn't really do anything "that" bad.

It will make his crusade to start earning sweet passive income look like it's worth the effort. Teflon Serin!

In doing so, it will make a lot of the haters comments, research and anger look like a childish waste of time.

I really, really, really hope Mark's case sticks.

Eric said...

Rob, I'm sorry but I have to ask. How many, "bombshells" are out there?

anonymous said...

Regardless of how the case turns out, just getting Casey into a court is a WIN-WIN for Mark and everyone wanting Casey shut down.

Relentless said...

My issue with the "anti-Mark" faction is they hate him so much they actually it seems at times are rooting for Casey.

At the least they dislike Mark so much they wish he would lay off/pull the case, which boggles my mind, why would you want LESS pressure on Casey.

Unknown said...

Up until the last fraudcast, I thought LossMitPro sounded like a nice guy. Not so much anymore.

Was his "go for the throat" speech entertaining? Oh my yes. Have I been hooked into the whole saga, largely because of Mark? Indeed I have. Do I like asking myself questions? Clearly.

I reiterate: I will wager $50 against any of you fine ENers that Mark is going to lose this action.

I will wager $5 at 10 to 1 that the judge dismisses this today.

I will wager $1 at 100 to 1 that Mark is held in contempt of court.

To be clear: I have nothing against Mark. I don't "hate" anyone. But I just got some "sweet cash back" after financing the purchase of some mission-critical supplies, and now I would like to leverage that "income" vis-a-vis the risk-reward paradigm of gambling.

Any takers?

Property Flopper said...

Stephanie S -

I would love to see Mark win. I'll be the first to chear if he actually does manage to shut CS down.

A compentent attorney would shut him down quickly. Since he is dealing with CS, he may actually win. What he will accomplish remains to be seen.

That being said...

Mark is an internet bully. I've lost count of the number of people he has threatened to sue just here at EN.

His case v. CS is an abuse of the legal system (IMHO).

> This is what he does for a living...
> You think that he has never had to sue
> anyone before.

Actually, he negotiates with creditors on behalf of debtors for a living. He does not chase down debtors - he works for them.

He has sued before - once. He sued a non profit organization.

As CostaRican states:

> but he claims to be an officer of
> the court

He has made this claim - but has never backed it up. He has also claimed to be a "friend of the court", but used the term incorrectly when doing so.

Property Flopper said...

Quick clarification:

A compentent attorney would shut Mark down quickly.

Relentless said...

And I disagree that "nothing will happen today"

either Casey will be crowing about the judge denying motions

or he will be crying about the judge granting motions.

and either way we will be talking about it.

Thats assuming Casey or someone else goes or LMP sends someone a status(possibly Casey himself if snowflake doesnt grace the judge with his presence).

anonymous said...

Probably so but Casey doesn't have one.

That's all that really matters.

Sac RE Agent said...

teflon casey? sorry, but there are many, many instances of criminals getting of numerous times for their supposed crimes, only to finally to be sent away for life.

our legal system is slanted towards favoring the defendant. so slight technical errors can supposedly 'free' someone of their crimes. might happen today. might not. but today is only the start of casey's time in a courtroom.

Rob Dawg said...

At 10:02 AM, SouthernBread said...
Rob, I'm sorry but I have to ask. How many, "bombshells" are out there?


There are no stupid questions. I don't know. I do know it is a lot. I know that much because I am sitting on a lot. Be careful however to not let expectations diminsh the value when finally revealed. For instance it seems pretty certain that the trip to Australia did not "make" $3000 as Casey claims. This is one of those unbelievable issues I have with his supporterz. How can you defend someone traipsing around in another country who then overdraws a joint checking account and leaves an abandonded spouse to come up with the cash to close the account? And then the little turd claims that overdraft as making money?

mejustme said...

Anybody know what time the hearing is/was? Anybody know if anybody who posts here is going?

mejustme said...

Speaking of the joint checking a/c, I wonder if Galina had trouble opening up her own account, due to her now-awful credit and the numerous overdrafts on the joint a/c. Hopefully she already had her own individual a/c.

Unknown said...

@observer,

I beg to disagree. Anybody can suit anybody else in this country. Mark can suit me for sending $1 to Casey's Paypal account. The courts can be abused and are abused all the time. So, there is no win-win taking Casey to a courthouse.

As much as I dislike Casey's crimes and resent him getting away with it, truth is that a frivolous case thrown out of court will give even more notoriety to his story. Sweet free marketing for his upcoming book.

Headline: "Casey, the 'most hated blogger in the world' had a frivolous lawsuit filed by one of his former business associates thrown out of court. The former associate, who claimed to be an officer of the court, also threaten Casey in a public webcast with going for his throat." Heck, we could even see a crappy TV movie about it.

It can give some validity to the fallacy that Casey is just a stupid and gaullible kid instead of a rotten crook.

serinjustice said...

Obviosly, time will tell.

But this I do know: Any one or any idiot against Casey in court will win.

All that Casey has do to to lose in court is to open his mouth.

Peaceful Bystander said...

sorry, but there are many, many instances of criminals getting of numerous times for their supposed crimes, only to finally to be sent away for life.

Casey is a perfect example of your point. He dodges and weaves and avoids any criminal prosecution repeatedly and with total ease.

He HAS broken the law and basically admits as much. Most criminals will lay low to avoid extra attention, but Casey is out there thumbing his nose at EVERYONE.

His blog is one way of being a public figure, but how many radio interviews has he done? How many articles have been written about him? How many people have threatened to sue him or have the authorities throw him in jail? How many creditors have begged for money only to (seemingly) just give up?

He's not laying low, he committed crimes and still runs around the country and world willy nilly.

Teflon, for sure.

Teflon, for now.

Property Flopper said...

Rob -

On the subject of info you are in possesion of:

We know CS's mom was the cosigner for Hammar - can you confirm the amount she is on the hook for? Is it the $23k mentioned? More?

Also - Are you at liberty to say if this is all the family has signed for? Is anyone else on the hook (and, if so, how much)?

A response would be apprieciated, even if it is "I don't know" or "I can't say at this time".

Thanks in advance...

Dolph said...

Huck,

Say Casey gets to claim a win and this is dismissed or whatnot. He will gloat like he always does, the haterz will continue doing what they do and Casey will trip up on his own ego.

he will screw up again and next time he won't be so lucky. I feel Mark COULD get what he wants out of this, so THAT could be what we all need.

Rob Dawg said...

Casey's mom is possibly on the hook for an ADDITIONAL $23k. No confirmation but there was probably $4500 at least and maybe as much as $11,000 before that.

Peaceful Bystander said...

Dolph,

I understand the intent Mark has with the case. It's not much that he personally cares to win the case; he just wants Casey to be forced to expose his fraudulant activities.

If the judge gives approval for the case to move forward, Mark (and everyone else who wants to see Casey finally held accountable for his actions) will get his wish - Casey will be on record admitting to his crimes.

It just seems that Mark's case is too much of a reach at this point, too easy for the judge to dismiss.

After all of the recent threats by LMP, having the case tossed out will be a big blow to the haters - and HUGE win for Casey.

If it gets tossed, it may scare off other potential litigation efforts. Even with all the info that's available for use, it still wasn't enough for Mark's case. I'm not sure anyone else will want to spend the time trying to build and even stronger case.

Rob Dawg said...

Casey winning in court will not help Casey. It will embolden him to greater crimes. One consequence of Casey "winning" very well might be newspapers asking the losing side all kinds of questions that DAs don't want to see on the front page. "I only did this because hundreds of requests in a half dozen states to dozens of law enforcement agencies got no response."

Peaceful Bystander said...

Rob, do you really think newspaper reporters will be standing at the courtroom door like on People's Court hoping for a word with the plaintiff and defendant...when they don't seem to give more than a passing glance at his obvious criminal activity?

I think everyone is hoping for too much with this case - and that's why it's risky for the anti-Serin crowd.

serinjustice said...

Discovery guys, plain and simple discovery.

Mark has enough grounds to request a formal trial due to breach of contract.

Mark going off the handle has nothing to do with this case. This case is about breach of contract. No more, no less.

Once the judge gives the OK to proced with a trial, Discovery phase will set in and Casey's skeletons will POUR out like holloween on crack.

Sprezzatura said...

IANAL but here's my understanding:

What LMP is filing for today is an "ex parte" hearing. Basically, he's saying that an emergency situation exists that necessitates him "jumping the line" of regular litigation and getting fast action from a judge.

The judge may well say that no such emergency exists and deny the motion. that does NOT mean that the case is over, however. Having the ex parte motion denied is not proof that a 'normal' lawsuit will not succeeed.

Just something to keep in mind...

Peaceful Bystander said...

Why rush for an expeditious trial when there is a real risk it will get shot down, though?

Wouldn't he have been better served to file a "normal" lawsuit, one that is assured to hit the books, even if it wouldn't necessarily be heard immediately?

Maybe this will all be moot; per'aps the judge will approve the suit and allow it to move forward.

Property Flopper said...

This needs to be handled in criminal court rather than civil. Sadly, that takes a long time. I suspect we'll see a perp walk, but it will be at least a year from now.

In the end, it was the IRS that got Al Capone... and CS is definitely on their radar. That will take even longer, but is more certain.

Rob - Thanks for the info. Potentially as much as $34k? What a scumbag, throwing his own mother under the bus. The kid needs a good dose of reality.

serinjustice said...

There have been way too many Enablers in Casey's life.

From his Mom to his wife. Sorry, I don't buy the notion that they did not know what was going on this late in the game.

mejustme said...

I thought we'd have heard something by now. IAFF just released a few comments; that may or may not mean Snowflake is on the computer. The suspense is killing me.

lawnmower man said...

Mark can suit me for sending $1 to Casey's Paypal account.

Along those lines: what was up with Mark, on the shark-cast, threatening Pink Lips with a subpoena if she gave money to Casey?

I side with those labeling Mark a hothead; he likes to throw legal-sounding threats around.

Casey has called his bluff; now we get to see what's actually in Mark's hand.

fly in the ointment said...

At 10:04 AM, Relentless said...
My issue with the "anti-Mark" faction is they hate him so much they actually it seems at times are rooting for Casey.

At the least they dislike Mark so much they wish he would lay off/pull the case, which boggles my mind, why would you want LESS pressure on Casey.

-----------------------------------
The above seems like your interpretation of what many of us are saying, however I do not feel it is accurate of our intent.

I personally believe that Marks actions are doing more to help Casey in that he can now point to any enemy and blame Mark and the rest of the haterz for his failures. "If only the haterz would have left me alone, I could have succeeded. If only Mark hadn't backstabbed me, I could have monetized the blog and published a bestseller, etc."

I think these actions against Casey actually serve to strengthen his perception of the victim role.

I don't agree with what I have seen of this legal strategy for several reasons. It seems as though he has gone about this in a careless manner. For the most part Casey has admitted what he has done ( although he is so deluded he doesn't think he had criminal intent.) How certain is Mark that if by forcing LE hand, they do not also go after Galina. That is something that nobody really has control over, which in my opinion makes this a horrible gamble.

If this doesn't go down the way it is suppossed to then it gives Casey a "moral" victory that he will use to falsely build himself up with and further his delusion. At the worst, Mark could be opening himself up to countersuits that might end up putting sweet passive income into Casey's pocket.

I actually see all of this "interference" as enabling. The Serins and the Supras need to sort this all out and take care of their own damn mess if they ever want a chance at changing these dynamics. They need the opportunity to stand up to Casey from their own strength, from their own morals and from their own convictions. Thats how they will become strong, not from a group of total strangers on the internet fighting their fights and cleaning up their mess.( and it is their mess, even if Casey caused it). I understand getting reasonable help and support from the outside, but knights in shining armour won't really help this family or Casey in the long run. People need to create their own bottom if they want it to be useful as a guiding point in pulling themselves up.

On a personal note, I don't like Marks legal threatening to others and threats to sue anybody who donates to Casey, etc.. That's just not how this country works and I hold those freedoms and procedures higher than any contempt I hold for Casey.

Rob Dawg said...

what was up with Mark, on the shark-cast, threatening Pink Lips with a subpoena if she gave money to Casey?

He could have said it better as "You realise that Casey Inc. is an ongoing criminal enterprise engaged in illegal activity and is documented as being structured for the express purposes of tax avoidance? Any money you give wil leave a trail that leads back to you."

mejustme said...

People contribute all the time to defense funds of death-row inmates and -- shudder -- politicians who've run afoul of the IRS. Is that a crime?

H Simpson said...

11:39 what was up with Mark, on the shark-cast, threatening Pink Lips with a subpoena if she gave money to Casey?

As I remember it, it was a senario and not a threat. LMP was trying to show one could sue people for a variety of reasons. His example is far fetched, but is valid.

Dolph said...

Fly,

Doesn't matter as Mark is the face of this suit and since a lot of the haterz don't like him, Casey WILL NOT win that argument.

If he were to win (God forbid) he will try and fail at making it seem we are interfering. Ultimately a case can be made as to why Casey sabotages his own life better than anything any of us could ever do.

Unknown said...

I liked it when someone asked Pink Lips if she was a stripper. There was an awkward 2-second pause, and then she softly said, "No, I'm not a stripper." :)

mejustme said...

They prefer to be called dancers.

Eric said...

Rob, I like your reply.

I'm trying to play out the Casey-saga if he wins. The well for above-the-brow deals is dry. Therefore, I expect to see him run back to his NRU roots. However, that's the ideal situation. I rather expect him to begin visiting his supporterz on a more regular basis. I also expect to start hearing a string of complaints from them. Either odd credit reports, or being offered a chance to buy some shares of, "Hammar" or something similar.

Actually that's a thread in itself.

Rob Dawg said...

"John" "accidentally" posted in a non-Casey thread the following:

Mark said; "You wanna see me hot, pal, you wanna see me really go the guns on you? Believe me, you little shit-for-brains, you've got a think coming, if you wanna keep this up. You wanna keep it up, Casey, because I got news, I got goddamn news for you. You got a problem. You got a real big problem. Because I'm going to go for your fucking throat if you keep it up. Do you understand? Do I make myself clear? Yes or no. "

Sounds about like every real lawyer I've ever heard in a similar circumstance. Who says he isn't as good as a real lawyer?

Eric said...

saying a crime isn't committed and someone is free and clear as long as charges haven't been filed should be the same logic to leaving your child alone with pedophile who hasn't been caught yet.

Property Flopper said...

SouthernBread -

I don't think ANYONE would say Casey is not a criminal. He himself has used the term "mortgage fraud" to describe his actions.

He hasn't been arrested (yet!), but I can't imagine any -REPUTABLE- person would think of doing business with him. Currently, he is limited to A) people who do not know of him and B) bottom feeders.

Unknown said...

Marks thinking when he got involved with Casey was that casey was in a super duper deep hole. Because of this Mark could shave considerable debt off caseys ledger. Mark could show the lenders how much Casey owed to several lenders. then the lenders would be will to take an even bigger loss than if they were the only lender owed money (or one of a few). Mark thought he would come out looking like a knight in shining armor. Having gotten casey out of hundreds of thousands of debt. What great advertisment. win-win right. Problem was Mark underestimated kc big time. Who's to blame? we already know casey is a shit.
Marks eyes got big. He fucked up. He should have walked away. Now he is trying to save face... and reputation. What an effing blow-hard. Dude you fucked up. Move on.

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Unknown said...

I wonder if the agreement Casey and Mark could have work had Mark not been such a hot-head. Seems like Casey really could ahve used a person like Mark. Maybe Mark demanded too much. Ah, who am I kidding. Casey being typically Casey no doubt.

serinitis said...

No agreement with Casey will work out unless it includes no commitment or effort from Casey.

Unknown said...

@fackENers,

Very true point, but I think Mark actually wanted to get more than publicity for himself. Why else would he ask Casey to declare himself incompetent of managing his own finances to the court? Mark would get NO clients once people learned about it.

I think Mark wanted to get his hands on IAFF while acting as the court's appointed "manager" of Casey's assets... plus getting a juicy percentage of whatever the lenders could recover.

Mark is a bottom feeder debt collector.

Eric said...

You guys crack me up. You are upset with Mark for bringing Casey to the ropes. Who cares if he is a hothead.

In my opinion:
Casey deserves to lose Galina.
Galina deserves a real man who can provide for her, treat her like a woman, support her, and give her the love (and heterosex) Casey neglected.
Casey deserves to be charged with fraud.
Casey deserves to be arraigned and to be put in jail.
Casey deserves to be forced to file bk and have all future lenders know what a douche he is and how bad an investment he is.

If you want to talk about bottom feeders. I think we need to talk about Marty "PageDaddy" Stewart. Fecal Matter deserves higher billing than that arsemunch.

Unknown said...

rob dawg:

my "casey" first post. was meant to be funny. no offense intended.

lawnmower man said...

I think we need to talk about Marty "PageDaddy" Stewart.

Yep. And let's not forget that Mark's complaint is against Casey and Marty.

anonymous said...

"Why else would he ask Casey to declare himself incompetent of managing his own finances to the court? Mark would get NO clients once people learned about it."


Why? Uh, maybe because Casey is clearly incompetent of managing his own finances(and that of others).

Believe it or not, there's plenty of clients out there that would love nothing more than to claim clueless if they found themselves in a mess like Casey has brewing.

Relentless said...

I dunno about that

Mark didnt show much interest on the haterzcasts in the Marty side of the equation (but certainly enough to name him and his company in the suit).

It almost looked like the intent was to drive Marty and Casey apart (kick a support leg out, a good strategy). I think Casey even said that at one point.

Marty and Casey were already at odds from what some have said and the addition of a SEO and traffic guru in the santa-flipper list kinda shows that Marty may not be working with Casey anymore. (and Casey editing the book, if you had a monetary interest in that book would you let CASEY edit it? chances he ever actually finishes that???).

anonymous said...

Speaking of Stewart, has anyone pinned this guys identity down? Was he indeed the gentleman from Tahoe area?

Rob Dawg said...

fackENers is hereby award a postdeletion "first" for the attempt at humor. The Dawg is docked three scooby snacks as punishment.

As to "waiting"... Stand in line. I'm gettin' nothin' either so we are being teased.

anonymous said...

Any reason why Casey would delete the "I'm not welcome home" post and "marriage counselor" under his "needs" link?

Hmm...

Relentless said...

Thats being debated over at the forums, no interesting theories/info yet


Possibilities

-He's back with his family (singular or plural)

-He's trying further to keep his family situation private

-He read/responded to Duanes threat to let loose on him if he didnt stop talking about his wife.

Unknown said...

@observer,

Marty's idea was to have Casey declare himself incompetent as in "I can't handle my own life. Please, assign somebody else to make decisions for me." This wasn't about declaring himself clueless and therefore not responsible for his criminal acts.

serinjustice said...

#Observer:

YEs, this is Casey classic tactic to get people to talk about him and click on his web site.

Folks, Casey is a con-man. I can't believe so many have fallen for this con-artist. Including Mr. Sync and Mark V. - both went off the deep end. Why? Because they believed Casey is an honest but mis-guide soul.

Even Nacho lost money on Casey thinking she could fix him. Casey is a crook and he is mocking the legal system, plain and simple.

mejustme said...

Doesn't anybody know what happened today? Dolph, you said you talk to Mittens. Have you tried calling him?

Eric said...

I'm expecting info soon.

serinjustice said...

Gather around kids:

Get the pop-corn out and sit back for the show to begin...

Bemused Guy said...

@1:18 Dawg -

Coincidentally I was on the phone with *my* lawyer tonight. We were chatting about some mutual (head) cases and he used the same phrase about "going for the fucking throat."
He couldn't understand why I was laughing.

Bette said...

Rob dawg,

Will you comment tonight about what happened?

Bette said...

Sorry I thought I'd refreshed and missed this:

"As to "waiting"... Stand in line. I'm gettin' nothin' either so we are being teased."

Were you told that you would get info?

Unknown said...

Dawg,

For another thread:...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akJOnhaU63wk&refer=home

mejustme said...

Just posted by serinitis at CH.C:

There is a July 20th 2 pm hearing on order to show cause regarding temporary restraining order.

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dcs1000 said...

I think one of Marks intentions was to get Casey on record admitting to his "shady" dealings. Please note that Casey does not have to say a thing about Cashcall, the lair loans, missing payments, etc. because such things were done outside of any agreement with Mark. Regardless if Mark became aware of any "crimes" that Casey committed his bringing them up in court if not relevant to his complaint will be set aside. Casey can actually plead the 5th Amendment on such issues. And the Judge will actually/usually seek to prevent Casey from incriminating himself.

Don't you guys watch Judge Judy?

Eric said...

www.debtkid.com has a post about a contest between him and Casey to see who can earn $20,000 in recurring income each month first.

mejustme said...

Don't you guys watch Judge Judy?

I'm more of a Wapner fan, myself. He can be imitated but never equaled. Seriously, I learned a lot from watching his show.

Relentless said...

Casey doesnt believe he did anything illegal, taking the 5th on anything would be a breakthrough.

mejustme said...

Hey, SouthernBread, what business is debtkid in? I don't follow his site much. That post says he's been making $7K per month from his biz steadily.

I wonder if he means gross or net, because he's also talking about filing chapter 7 and he can't do ch. 7 if he's making that kind of money anymore, AFAIK.

BigDaddy63 said...

I, for one, am amazed that the Judge is entertaining this TRO. The fact that he (the judge) has scheduled a hearing to show cause is important and makes this a whole new ball game.

The burden of proof now shifts from LMP to FLIPTARD as to why a TRO should not be filed. Hence the "show cause" part, as in show the judge why this TRO should not be enacted...

Kind of like this...

http://goldengatevw.com/lawsuit/pdf/TRO.pdf


This forces Fliptard to have to:

1. Appear in court
2. Swear under oath to tell the truth
3. Defend his case with an attorney or God help him Pro Se
4. Go on record
5. Open himself up to questions by LMP, the judge,or any parties to the TRO

Now Marty/Page Daddy have to defend themselves and Snowflake.

Most importantly, IMO, is that the judge just might know of our little Snowflake's escapades and is going to allow some broader discretion here. If the judge allows LMP to take the ball and run with it, this could lead to discovery and some serious trouble for Snowflake.

Imagine Subpoenas Duces Tecum of all of the Lenders, Mortgage Brokers, Appraisers, player involved, and all of Snowflake's shady deal paperwork he must produce. Not to mention the depositions under oath.

I may be wrong, but this smells like trouble for Snowflake. Ignore mode won't cut it anymore.

Mouse And Pencil said...

So much for the judge throwing the case out.

Unknown said...

@BigDaddy63,

Are you sure this is for Snowflake to prove there is no grounds for the TRO? I actually believe this means lost mittens has to prove there is cause to request the TRO.

Relentless said...

Its both.

LMP says why Casey should be smited off the surface of the earth.

Casey says why it's all good!, and why good things are coming if the judge denies the TRO's

Judge decides who to believe.

Bets we see the TRO motions posted on IAFF and requests to help him come up with a defense?

Dolph said...

Guess since so many didn't have the facts of Mark's case (outside of his posts) it sure looks like he might have had a dandy for the judge to entertain the TRO.

Not gloating or saying anything to jinx this, but I hope people are willing to step back and realize Mark might not be the fool others seem to paint him as.

wagga said...

if (Judge = (Google(Casey + Serin))) then ItsAllOver else ItsAllGood;

Bilgeman said...

Better'n'that.

Ther'sa whole bunch of nay-sayers,including some self-proclaimed lawyers,who should have to suck LMP's ass until their cheeks burst with shit.

Let Caseyroo show up and get under oath.

Someone mentioned Cashback's paperwork?

Where do you suppose all Fliptard's paperwork is?

In those IKEA filing cabinets and bookcases,right?

And where are those?

He abandoned them at Yulia's house!

Does anyone recall me making a deal about getting those documents in their possession?

Big ha-ha-ha!

Relentless said...

Dolph,

There wasnt much chance the case was just going to get tossed today.

I don't know why people kept throwing that out there.

The rest of the details about today will be interesting, that hearing next friday even more so (since no doubt fliptard knows what Mark is asking the judge to do to him now).

And who knows, Mcmaster may have granted some today.

Sac RE Agent said...

glad to hear the case is moving forward. hopefully will continue to move forward after the 20th.

i'm not a lawyer but i do understand that every time one walks into a courtroom, something may happen that you do not wish to happen. keep at it mark.

and casey, get use to the surroundings. i think you'll be seeing various courtrooms in the future.

H Simpson said...

Anyone see murseboi go in and then back out of the courthouse?

Like to know if the proceedings were virtual smelling salts to bring him back to the reality of what damage he has caused (e.g. it ain't all good).

Secondly, what are the odds he will ask his judge friend for guidence, and then not follow the sage advice given to him?

R

Relentless said...

Magic 8 ball says

Without a doubt.

H Simpson said...

And Mark

Many Thanks for spending the time and effort you expended.

If you need to keep silent, it is understood by those of us who do understand the difference between strategy, tactics, and actions

H.

fly in the ointment said...

At 6:23 PM, Sharky said...
Better'n'that.

Ther'sa whole bunch of nay-sayers,including some self-proclaimed lawyers,who should have to suck LMP's ass until their cheeks burst with shit.

-----------------------------------

I don't know sharky, it just wouldn't feel right, pushing you from the spot you have occupied all week long. Your tongue has got to be hurting by now.

I am kinda missing your huge victory. A judge turned Marks request for immediate relief down and allowed this to continue as a normal case, where both sides are allowed to present their sides of the story. Thats how things should work. Mark paid his money and he is gonna get his ride.

I am totally open to somebody explaining why Casey admitting these things in court is such an amazing breakthrough. Casey had been admitting at least 20 acts of fraud for some time now. In terms of having this case solely for having Casey admit this information in court seems like a waste. The most that this judge can do is to refer the information to the District Attorney of Sacramento to look at. A judge has no authority to tell a DA who or what cases to prosecute. I sent all of this information, including Caseys admissions on his website to the Sacramento DA in February 2007. From what I understand many others have too.

On the downside, Casey has until the 20th to refine his story, refine his crimes and most importantly continue with his blog with all of this wonderful renewed interest because of all the electricity this court case generates. More hits, more revenue, more new visitors and suckers to his blog, where he will be sure to spin this into his favor.

For Christ sakes, he was about to whither on the vine and die, three weeks ago. Now he has the attention he so desperately seeks and needs.

I will give Mark huge levels of respect for keeping his mouth closed for the past few days, especially with two or three boards running with this story and commenting on him and this case.

Hyper Fart said...

I don’t know about you, but I sure don’t want to waste court’s limited time and resources…

Definitely not wasted, Casey.

Very fucking well spent, I think.

See you in court on the 20th.

Rob Dawg said...

With pending litigation and any other pending legal actions the one thing Casey can not do is sell IAFF or any portion of it.

For all the gee wizz golly of the outer Casey the criminal at the core is white knuckled with rage that the two topmost schemes he had cooking are now thrown into the same dumpster where the casino deal now resides.

Akubi said...

Hey Kidz!
Time to vote for the 6 Degrees of Casey to Gandhi win-win winner!

Bilgeman said...

I would think, if it hasn't been done already, that getting possession of Fliptard's paperwork and mountainof unopened mail, would be worth a nice dinner onthe town for a hard-working li'l lady.

If it cannot be used, it can be denied for the opponent's use.

I know a guy who divorced his skank of a wife,(she was giving mattress-rides to every bum in town).

She had the chance,but she took her crappy jewelry,and left her diplomas,professional certs, identifications,birth certificate,passport,medical records ...pretty much everything behind in favor of her tawdry "QVC swag".

There was an accident with the fireplace....(OOOOPS! Sor-reeee!)

My pal...he kept the house, kept the car,kept his pension...left her a used Mercedes Benz,(which she neglected into shit-heap status inside of six months),and $25k of "get lost" money.

He turned around and sued her to get at her medical records,since indiscriminate,unwise,and covert mattress-play today carries biological dangers to unwitting partners.

He got access to his ex-wife's veterinary record...(case set precedent in Florida,BTW)...and it cost her 12.5k of that 25k to fight.

The best part...he got her boyfriend ,(A Hepatitis-laden convict meatbag),violated on his parole, and sent back to the Florida Man-Pound,where he died of liver failure in the prison hospital six short weeks later.

They cremated Lover-bag, and mailed his ashes home to his Mommy.

From what I hear,the scattering was even FUNNIER than the Big Lebowski finale.

BJ said...

@CostaRican

Are you sure this is for Snowflake to prove there is no grounds for the TRO? I actually believe this means lost mittens has to prove there is cause to request the TRO.

@Relentless

Its both.

Within a TRO, the person filing has to show cause within the filing itself or it will be summarily turned down. You can't file a TRO to the effect that you want it against this defendant and then hope to present in court. Most of your presentation will be in the filing. The TRO is a summary action. The fact that it is going for another day and wasn't immediately turned down by the judge seems to indicate that the judge feels that there may be some merit to the TRO. This means the next step is Casey's. Continuance is to a date shortly later (10 business days). This indicates that it did not go to normal trail procedures. The TRO did jump the clock (so far).

I suspect that Casey, if he did go, went in typically unprepared, clueless.. maybe tried to spout some shit. Judge asked if Casey was prepared (knowing Casey... NOT) Judge then grants a continuance for Casey to get prepared and suggests that Casey gets representation.

I suspect what will happen in the future.. are a few more continuances because Casey is not prepared.. and by then the Judge will have had it (Judges don't like ignore mode).

Unknown said...

Sharky, you're annoying, I have no idea why you think this is some huge victory, mark did not get what he wanted, he has to come back in a week and show cause. Stalemate for now, like I predicted at caseyhaterz.

Again, to quote fly in the ointment

I am totally open to somebody explaining why Casey admitting these things in court is such an amazing breakthrough.

BJ said...

@Sharky

Money for a nice dinner on the town for a hard working li'l lady.. I would agree to and can/will front the money if needed.

But this:
I would think, if it hasn't been done already, that getting possession of Fliptard's paperwork and mountain of unopened mail..

If it cannot be used, it can be denied for the opponent's use

There was an accident with the fireplace....(OOOOPS! Sor-reeee!)


I don't. Most of that paperwork/etc are useful evidence against Casey, and I suspect he would want them burned!! Galina needs to secure the originals and give Casey Xerox copies of the ones he needs (wouldn't look good for her to intentionally deny him facts needed for a defense, though most of that stuff will probably impeach him as opposed to providing a defense).

Bilgeman said...

fly:

"I don't know sharky, it just wouldn't feel right, pushing you from the spot you have occupied all week long. Your tongue has got to be hurting by now."

No,it's not hurting at all.

Your allegation simply isn't supported by the record.

I've had very little contact with LMP on the boards,and none via e-mail.

LMP's and my own target happen to be the same contemptible punk,each for our own reasons,to be sure.

"I am kinda missing your huge victory."

It's not a huge victory over Casey,it IS a huge victory over the fuckwits who fell all over themselves babbling how it had no merit and would be tossed out.

Ordo you fail to see that?

Were you one of those booger-eaters?

If so,I can TOTALLY understand how you'd "fail to see it"...you'd be stumbling about with your eyeballs dangling by their stalks from the savage double skull-fucking you've just received.

" A judge turned Marks request for immediate relief down and allowed this to continue as a normal case,"

Not quite. I draw your attention to today's date,(here,I'll put the calendar on the floor for ya),it is now July 10th.

The TRO/show cause hearing is July 20th.
This is a civil matter,is it not?

This matter is now proceeding at "tie down the boiler safeties" warp-drive,my friend.

"where both sides are allowed to present their sides of the story."

I'm looking forward to the cross-examinations.

Fliptard better rub that "lucky courthouse trash can" of his until it fuckin' melts,y'know?

Oh...and BTW, who says there won'tbe OTHER actions that take place between now and then?

"More hits, more revenue, more new visitors and suckers to his blog, where he will be sure to spin this into his favor."

Yesssss...that Supporterz Legion he has managed to accumulate?

Rather fickle andweak-minded crew,eh?

I baited him tonight that all his "loy-yur" buddies would slip on their magic rings and dissapear into thin air REAL soon.

Bilgeman said...

bj:

"I don't. Most of that paperwork/etc are useful evidence against Casey, and I suspect he would want them burned!! "

I understand...that was done in a different context, and was an act of creative malice of no small consequence,(I appreciate artistry in malice,in case you hadn't noticed).

"Galina needs to secure the originals and give Casey Xerox copies of the ones he needs."

Of course...only strike "needs" and replace with "asks for".

The point, of course,is to get and retain possession of the documents that would nail him.

"(wouldn't look good for her to intentionally deny him facts needed for a defense,"

Would this be the "Wife ate my homework" defense?

Unknown said...

If so,I can TOTALLY understand how you'd "fail to see it"...you'd be stumbling about with your eyeballs dangling by their stalks from the savage double skull-fucking you've just received

LMAO!

Sharky, you are truly a word-smith. And I thought I had a flair for whimsical, sarcastic statements. I humbly bow and acknowledge the presence of a true master!

BigDaddy63 said...

Sharky,

I will add that IF LMP has already included in his TRO that he is seeking any documentation that Snowflake or Marty have in their possession, they are obligated to deliver them. Failure to do so is subject to contempt, fines, and pissed of judges. Destruction or trampering with them is a bigger no no. No doubt LMP already has much of this or has knowledge of what he is looking for.

Any thoughts on Snowflake running off to Canada or back to Australia for good come the 19th?

Duane LeGate said...

In for a brief sec... then back in silent mode... here to correct a misperception...and that is..

THERE IS NO INNER CIRCLE...

I have seen this phrase tossed around and I dont like it. I have had email exchanges with Rob, Mark, Dolph, Sharky, Annie, Spreez, Rboy and a lot more.

I have had to email Rob on some things where other people were copied on. I have emailed Sharky where other people were copied on... there is no secret club.. there is no secret handshake.. and there is no information only passed to a select few.

I have seen this phrase used by RBoy more than once. And let me say on the record I like RBoy. And I am not trying to throw him under the bus, I just see him using this phrase more than anyone else and its wrong.

I am sorry that I have had to go silent, I know it pleases many, and its tough for me to do. I have made many wonderful internet friends, and I will pop in here when I can.

I know the teases thing got to people. But let me say this... if I see something that I know..KNOW.. is factually incorrect, I felt I had to say something.. and to dissprove someone would mean compromising other things in which I had promised not to. SO, do you let lies an innuendo sit with no response? To set the record straight would mean to betray people? Conflicts any way you turn...

That and a few other things is why I left.. and why I am posting now is to clear up the IC thing. That term needs to go into the trash and never to be revived.

Unknown said...

I will add that IF LMP has already included in his TRO that he is seeking any documentation that Snowflake or Marty have in their possession, they are obligated to deliver them

Where IS Marty in this entire fiasco? I haven't heard Fliptard make any mention of them working together to deal with this court case. Is he trying to scurry into some nearby crevace a la Gollum? Where are the alleged "deep pockets"?

Guess the pockets being deep did not necessarily imply they were filled with $$$.

Mouse And Pencil said...

@duane

You told me to stick around, and i am, so you better come by, mister! :)

Bilgeman said...

@Tom;

It helps to be a Sadist.

@ BigDaddy:

"Any thoughts on Snowflake running off to Canada or back to Australia for good come the 19th?"

Perhaps, but that would only delay the inevitable, while "doubling-down"the penalties, would it not?

It WOULD give his co-respondents a BIG WIN,though...they could heap all the blame on him,(or try to), without his bleating in his defense.

Frankly...eventually I see him self-snuffing.

The penultimate act in a life that is notable only for his refusal to meet his obligations...to anyone.

It'sthe only way he gets to skip out on the "Time of Misery" he has set for himself, isn't it?

Bilgeman said...

Duane:

I believe you meant to say that you e-mailed CHJTS,(Shark),and not I...(Sharky).

He's the nice one.

I'm the cruel one.

Eric said...

Now Duane has pissed me off. I kept holding out that I could get in the club. I even had jackets being made....cool jackets. We could have formed a bowling league. Duane and I could be the Bubba-Based Pin Heads, and Rob and Mark could be the West Coast Union Strikers.
Oh well...I guess there is no hope for an e-mail, I might as well go back to rumor, gossip, and inuendo hahah :)

Thanks for the clarification, Duane.
-AlaSwaDon-SouthernBread

H Simpson said...

So Duane

While we got you, any death threats from the Orlando Chamber of Commerce in the last couple days ?? :>)

H

Eric said...

Orlando Chamber:

"Nothing to see here people..everything is good...seriously...nothing to worry about"


What's funny is an ex-fiance of mine's uncle has a HUGE building company in the greater Orlando area.

He was building 1-2 houses at a time and living in the model homes when he started. Two years ago, he was building 60-80 at a time. I haven't heard anything official, but word has it things aren't good in their office. To the tune of angry bank lenders, contractors, and non-english speaking workers trying to get paid.

cedarpine said...

southernbread:

I know! Right? I was going to let everyone use my sweet clubhouse. I was going to make sandwiches, and everything. And my Mom said we could stay up as late as we want.

Now there's nothing. I mean, come on!

:o)

Holiday Inn said...

"It's not a huge victory over Casey,it IS a huge victory over the fuckwits who fell all over themselves babbling how it had no merit and would be tossed out."

Heh. The fuckwits in this were the ones expecting LMP to stroll through this lawsuit. LMP got lucky so far, but doesn't mean much. It's a little like watching Sharky play Russian roulette and then pat himself on the back when he dodges one--it doesn't mean he was smart, but he thinks so. For the record, I hope LMP nails Casey. But I also think the lawsuit is a bonehead move.

Rob Dawg said...

Now what am I going to do with 2759 secret decoder rings?

Bilgeman said...

Holiday Inn:

"It's a little like watching Sharky play Russian roulette and then pat himself on the back when he dodges one--it doesn't mean he was smart, but he thinks so."

Now THAT'S an odd little passage.

LMP is holding the "gun",he's pointing it at Fliptard...but I'm playing Russian Roulette, huh?

Do you know HOW to play Russian Roulette?

Would you like a set of instructions? (I'm a GIVER!).

"For the record, I hope LMP nails Casey. But I also think the lawsuit is a bonehead move."

So...you THINK you're a Hater,but you're not...really.

How do YOU propose that LMP "nail Casey"...with a strongly-worded letter?

A 12 gauge?

Thermonulear warfare?

Making Fliptard wear a "I am a poopyhead" sign?

Let's hear it,o critic of the action...let's hear YOUR grand plan.

Bilgeman said...

Rob Dawg:

"Now what am I going to do with 2759 secret decoder rings?"

Down payment on a condo?

Mouse And Pencil said...

@Rob

Convert them to Olympic rings, of course!

Sac RE Agent said...

Just Posted in CaseyLand....

"Big News To Come Tomorrow…

Last time I had a teaser post about big news was when I found out I’m meeting Robert Kiyosaki in person (here is the video if you haven’t seen it yet).

But no, this time I’m not meeting any famous guru. This time it’s quite different.

Also, things in court were quite… er… “interesting” today. Sorry, I can’t talk about it, at least for now. "

king friday the 13th said...

>> 2759 secret decoder rings

well, since the news of the lawsuit broke MURST over at caseyhaterz.com, it seems the utility of this site is over. EN has jumped the shark.

Where are the bombs, Rob? No, $12 wrench sets is not what I'm talking about. What can I read at EN, that I cannot read at the democratic FORUMS over at caseyhaterz.com sooner?

Where news posts as it breaks. NOT as a censor sees fit.

serinitis said...

@Sharky

The legitimate to nail Casey would be to buy a bit of his debt. LMP could then get a judgement and force the sale of IAFF without abusing the legal system. Casey debt is probably dirt cheap

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Bubba Brigham said...

Could the "big news" involve a Galina/Snowflake reunion?

I wonder how red with anger Duane and Mark would get if that happened.

As for Rob, he'll use the occasion to get a drink. ;-)

serinitis said...

@King

This site had some great discussions on Inflation and production and shipping costs. And the discussions weren't interrupted by Trolls.

The reason the news broke at CaseyHaterz is because I was under the impression that Rob needed a bit of break from Casey hoopla.

Mouse And Pencil said...

@king

Don't even try to go there, king, CH.C is NOT in competition with Rob or this site, or saying anything about how useful this blog is. The Dude did not set up the forums for any of the reasons you state.

Serinitus may have gotten the scoop on the lawsuit, because he went to the courthouse, but that does not mean CH.C will have info first from now on.

Holiday Inn said...

"So...you THINK you're a Hater,but you're not...really."

Oh, thanks for letting me know. Can you send me the application form for your Hater certification?

"How do YOU propose that LMP "nail Casey"...with a strongly-worded letter?"

Russian Roulette is one way to nail him. Not a smart one in my book, but you apparently don't mind the approach.

Rob Dawg said...

Such a wonderful set of recent posts. Accused of censorship then this jem:
As for Rob, he'll use the occasion to get a drink. ;-)

And what about that is even remotely deserving of a wink and a smile? Nothing but the cruelest thing you could think of to slap someone.

Oh well, wasted too much time on this reply and not enough on the next post. Sort of a form of censorship when you think about it from certain perspectives.

Neal said...

New post over at IAFF, something about a huge announcement tomorrow.

Bilgeman said...

serinitis:

"The legitimate to nail Casey would be to buy a bit of his debt. LMP could then get a judgement and force the sale of IAFF without abusing the legal system."

Okay...that's at least a plan,not the quibbling of eunuchs and the impotent whining their poorly-concealed envy at the action that they will not or cannot perform.

There will be blood in the water now, and from here on out...possibly real blood.

If you haven't the stomach for it, then do yourself,and everyone else a favor,and leave this sordid little saga behind...and don't look back.

Mursebearer is going to get his scrawny gut ripped open and be thrown to the wolves by every other sentient entity being sued.

INCLUDING his mother.

And he's going to be trying to do the exact same thing to all the others.

I'm wired to be amused by things like this...others aren't.

You've been warned.

Now...your plan has merit,but it takes too much TIME.

Every day this little shitbag doesn't pay on his AND GALINA'S debt, the interest adds to the total.

And Momsie the co-signer gets dragged down deeper into the Casey
Shit-Vortex.

The quicker Fliptard can be barred rom getting hishands onthe money,the quicker the repayment can begin...and the sink rate slows.

Do you appreciate the necessary urgency here?

And why "buying the marker"is too slow?

FWIW, I don't think LMP is really in it for the money,although pocketing 10k from sMarty to sever him and his merry band from the action would prolly be graciously banked.

And...the quiet little "poot" of sMarty n'Casey's relationship going bye-bye should hint that sMarty is fixin' to throw Cashback right under the bus.

I'll wager that Nigel Swaby is thanking whatever flavor of Deity he prays to that he broke from Fliptard when he did,otherwise the stench of Serin would be with him like a fart in a scuba-suit

lawnmower man said...

My guess: the "big news tomorrow" is another puff-piece on The Book.

Dolph said...

Hey Sharky,

You crack me up. BTW, I actually loved the Creeper Lagoon album that came out on Dreamworks a bunch of years back (that was you, right?). Shame it didn't sell better. So much shit passes for music nowadays.

Dolph said...

BTW - Not referring to your band's music as shit, just that you guys should have sold more versus all the crap KROQ and other stations choose to be tastemaker music and that shit sucks. You guys were good. Just wanted to clarify that.

Bilgeman said...

Holiday Inn:

"Russian Roulette is one way to nail him. Not a smart one in my book, but you apparently don't mind the approach."

Yeah...I thought not.

Big Hater "Hard-on for justice",until it actually starts getting too close to hanging time.

Then you discover that the Viagra ain't cuttin' it no more...your "Love Machine" won't "maintain compression".

Know what you remind me of?

Those fruitcakes who went to Iraq to be "human shields" to protect the innocent from "being bombed"...and then all scuttled away when no-one,including the Iraqis, would guarantee their personal safety...

" Can you send me the application form for your Hater certification?"

I just did,and you just showed that you don't belong here,at least anymore.

I understand that Rachael Ray has a wonderful website...why not go over there and learn to bake cookies and make casseroles and shit?

Dolph said...

At 9:48 PM, serinitis said...

@King

This site had some great discussions on Inflation and production and shipping costs. And the discussions weren't interrupted by Trolls.

The reason the news broke at CaseyHaterz is because I was under the impression that Rob needed a bit of break from Casey hoopla.


Me too. I am happy Rob is talking about the things he started this blog for. Why are some feeling the need to rip him for diversifying.

I am sure when there is news, it will be posted here. EN hasn't jumped any sharks. As LMM stated, both sites can co-exist.

Rob Dawg said...

Depending on what Casey posts I will then either confirm his announcement or if he weasels out with some other story and not the big thing that happened today I will just rip him a new one for sinking even lower than ever before. The court hearing was but a distraction. I'm not going to scoop him because in his current state he'd blame the wrong people and were I to break it before him he'd have a chance to spin things his way. No warning for him or free hints on how to explain things in their best light.

Bilgeman said...

dolph:

No...I don't rent sweet vans to people.

That's Sharky Laguana,(the vans are pretty nifty).

I'm the one with the meatpuppets in my cellar.

Which...btw,I forgot to feed them.

Rob Dawg said...

I washes its hair and gets itself a job or else it gets a cellmate.

Dolph said...

Sharky,

I had a feeling you weren't him but I still dig your posts.

Holiday Inn said...

Sharky:

Thank god we have white trash dimwits like you around. For both entertainment and useful stuff, like taking my baked cookies out of the oven with bare hands.

Unknown said...

duane legate:
"I have seen this phrase used by RBoy more than once. And let me say on the record I like RBoy. And I am not trying to throw him under the bus, I just see him using this phrase more than anyone else and its wrong. "

haha Rboy egg on your face, mr "wheels of justice turns VERY slowly"

dcs1000 said...

Remember guys, Casey will be on KCRA Friday at 6:30pm (Pacific)

Be sure to contact the station:

KCRA 3 Television

You can contact the station by phone at (916) 446-3333.
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Unknown said...

The podcast of Casey's interview with Triple J in Australia is now available here:

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/topshelf/listen/default.htm

R-Boy said...

thanks Kate for finding the triple j program.

Swee: Love the trolling attempt, but Duane and I are cool, and the IC thing got started by other folks and quite honestly it was easier to type two letters mockingly than 5 to 10 names.

Dick, Thanks for letting us know about KCRA.

sid_finster said...

So Sharky has now appointed himself to the Hater Admissions Committee?

Anonymous said...

Long time Hater, first time poster.

It seems to me that even if Mark wins, he loses. Let's say he wins the suit and Casey is ordered to pay him $10,000. How many times have you heard about a civil suit in which someone who is ordered to pay does not? Or cannot?

Also, Mark Villasenor's name will be forever tainted by this. Google his name and you come up with the Caseypedia entry and all sorts of ugliness.

I wouldn't do business with a fifty year old man who gets heavily involved in the real life equivalent of an internet flame war. Nevermind one who angrily threatens a 24 year old hippie with all the gravelly bravado of a WWF wrestler. It's pathetic.

Dolph said...

No it won't Andrew. Maybe for you it will but if he can use the system to KEEP Casey in line, he's not only provided the world with justice that the LE folks didn't seem concerned with.

The beauty of America is that a person cheating the system can be held accountable at some point down the line.

H Simpson said...

Did Marty and/or his Corporate legal team attend the court hearing yesterday?

A simple yes/no would be fine.

H

Rob Dawg said...

Honestly, there is no indication that anyone other than the principals attended. I may not have been told but I doubt that.

serinjustice said...

Well, whatever happen, it went well for Mark V since the lawsuit now continues on the 20th.

So that is a good SWEET thing.

Like I said before, with Casey's track record, all Casey has to do to lose is open his mouth.

Sweet!

mejustme said...

Rob, wondering if this thread will remain the place to check for courtroom updates?

Rob Dawg said...

The next Serinsage update is expected to be the reply to Casey's "announcement."

1. Casey tells item 1 -> Confimation and discuss.
2. Casey tells item 2 -> De-spin for truth and discuss.
3. Casey punts -> Make it clear the truth will out.

Casey's move, not mine.

serinjustice said...

Could Casey's big annoucement today be that he is finally "coming out"?

Oh my!

mejustme said...

Is IAFF down? It's not loading for me.

mejustme said...

Somebody -- eek, I think it was Rboy, not sure -- posted at CHC that Casey and Mittens met in chambers and were told to try and work it out between them; the 7/20 hearing is a follow-up of sorts. I'm paraphrasing so I hope I got the gist correct.

IAFF has been down for me for quite a while.

serinjustice said...

IAFF has been working for me. Just checked again now, it works.

mejustme said...

"worm sign"

He's shuttin' down.