Both Australia and Southern Africa are the latest victims of global warming. Huge cold spells have affected many regions of the Southern hemisphere this their winter season. Bad things happening? Blame it on your personal boogeyman. For planners that is sprawl. For Socialists, global warming. The formula works everywhere. First you set up a claim that is poorly defined and cannot be proven false. Then you villify anyone who disagrees pointing to their failure to prove you wrong. Feel free to extrapolate to other subjects.
Wednesday, July 18, 2007
My Dandenongs Are Freezing and There Are Icicles On My Pretorian Bits
Both Australia and Southern Africa are the latest victims of global warming. Huge cold spells have affected many regions of the Southern hemisphere this their winter season. Bad things happening? Blame it on your personal boogeyman. For planners that is sprawl. For Socialists, global warming. The formula works everywhere. First you set up a claim that is poorly defined and cannot be proven false. Then you villify anyone who disagrees pointing to their failure to prove you wrong. Feel free to extrapolate to other subjects.
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Bunnies are cute. Only terrorist would disagree. Are you a terrorist or do you love bunnies?
How does that sound?
Casey is in South Africa?
I don't believe it.
Oz has a north-south rabbit-proof fence across the middle of the country, about 2000 miles long.
How do land-owners feel about you if you leave a gate open? Doesn't matter how they feel. There's millions of acres to bury bodies.
"Looks like the dingoes got them, mate..."
So kc, if you've gone back to Oz, close the gate behind you. Oh! too much responsibility!.
One of my pet peeves with anthropogenic global warming is that ridiculous accuracies in temperature measurement are claimed. The numbers used for historical data series are extrapolations with huge error bars.
Even today modern electronic thermometers typically have an uncertainty of +/- 1 degree C, and that's with regular calibration. So I'm suspicious that a 0.6 degrees C global mean surface temperature rise (over decades) should be used as the basis for legislating our economic activity.
Tesla,
Add to that the entire NOAA database being unusable. Several years ago I attended an open house at the Oxnard NOAA station. I asked if they were annoyed by having to constantly relocated stations as the urban areas grew. Nope, they just bias the readings to account for heat island effects. The Los Angeles sensor was mentioned as needing as much a 12 degrees F bias to record "true" temperatures.
There's even a problem with paint. Yes, paint. The switch from whitewash to latex paints on the covers appears to have, you guessed it, biased upwards the nighttime readings.
I stumbled onto a website that tracks official temperature monitoring stations in California:
http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/
That guy documents A LOT of examples of just what you described. Mainly he finds a lot of urban heat island effects.
Global warming is sort of like algae, in that they are both caused by the sun.
It does not seem fair that "Global Warming" gets both hot and cold. If the earth is getting warmer then you should only get to claim cases of unusual warm weather not cold weather too.
Anytime the weather is random, unpredictable or changing the claim is made that it is global warming. In the past 5 years I had a winter with record high rainfall, one with record low rainfall, one with snow and a winter that had a heat wave. Each time I was told it was global warming. Could it just be that the weather is just always changing.
roger, you've probably noticed the subtle shift away from "global warming" to "climate change". That way you're covered no matter what, as the climate is always changing.
I do not claim to know whether or not global warming is true or not, but I do claim to know that some of you are rather ignorant.
Tesla seems to think that because thermometers have a 1 degree error, a conclusion that an average temperature change of less than one degree is meaningless. Take a stats class and try to understand the concept of average.
rogersmith8080 doesn't seem to understand the difference between climate and weather. He also thinks that "someone" telling him that the extremes were caused by global warming means that is what climate researcher are saying.
I certainly don't want to discourage skepticism, but you need to know what in the hell you are talking about first.
Ah: a metablog label.
I fear I may be too shallow to plunge these depths, but I'll try:
Boogeymen being promulgated in the Caseysphere at the moment include "Mark's suit is frivolous" and "Mark is an unprincipled collector abusing the law to ruin Casey."
Poorly defined; cannot be proven false by Mark without tipping his legal hand and/or revealing more personal information than he cares to; used to vilify Mark and any who support him as vindictive while Casey recasts himself as victim.
The following quote from this source is telling.
Dendrochronology, the study of tree rings, lays out tangible evidence of year-by-year weather conditions stretching back more than 2,000 years. The width of tree rings, reflecting trees' yearly growth, tell of wet or dry conditions.
"Analysis of this record indicates that many droughts, before the advent of the instrumental record, were more severe, more frequent and impacted larger areas," the report states.
"On average, drought contained in the reconstructed ... record (roughly 1,900 years before the instrumental record) was approximately 10.9 years in length compared to the average drought duration of 6.8 years during the last 111 years (instrumental record)."
Other methods of determining past conditions, such as studies of lake sediments, reinforce the conclusion, it says.
"Research indicates that prolonged dry periods have occurred in greater frequency than has been experienced within the past century."
Coupled with evidence of climate change, it adds, episodes similar to past conditions will probably happen again. In other words, there will be droughts that are "more severe and longer duration" than experienced in the past 100 years.
It seems as though the last several centuries were statistically mild.
It is likely that planetary precession and solar cycles have made a greater impact than mankind. Not to say that we aren't an environmental clusterfuck - we are, but one big volcanic event can match our annual CO2 production. And the sun bestows more energy on the planet in hours than our societies use in a year.
That said, we need to pay attention, stop blasting holes in the ozone layer, stop recklessly depleting the fossil fuel bank account, and stop destroying the biological diversity of our planetary home.
The formula works everywhere. First you set up a claim that is poorly defined and cannot be proven false. Then you villify anyone who disagrees pointing to their failure to prove you wrong. Feel free to extrapolate to other subjects.
"Illegal immigrants are ruining the country!"
"There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!"
"I have huge news about Casey that I need to confirm before I tell you!"
"Caseyhaterz.com is imploding!"
Golly, Mr. Dawg, you're right, you can apply that formula elsewhere.
i found a perfect site for casey!
www.perfectfailure.com
https://www.tdnam.com/trpItemListing.aspx?&miid=7708243
"Caseyhaterz.com is imploding!"
Well, CHC did suck up its own tail and pop out of existence this morning...
I favor the Casey-style hosting mojo explanation, myself, but we'll see.
"Illegal immigrants are ruining the country!"
"There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!"
"I have huge news about Casey that I need to confirm before I tell you!"
"Caseyhaterz.com is imploding!"
Golly, Mr. Dawg, you're right, you can apply that formula elsewhere.
And which of these "quotes" are actual quotes? See? You fail the test. Your lies are demonstrably false. And BTW there were WMD in Iraq. I just never said that nor any of the eleventeen implied follow on false quotes that implies. Oh, and I did have huge news about Casey and waited until confirmed. The positive can be proven.
You commentary sounds like the Karl Rove/George Bush plan during the elections!
Hey RobDawg,
Did you get my email concerning foreclosures and West Nile Virus outbreaks?
Good reading, Bud!
Interesting observations. I, too, have had questions about the near-certainty--or rather the attitude of near-certainty--applied to the global warming debate. What, do they have a million buoys out floating in the ocean measuring temperatures?
While there is considerable evidence of climate change, most of the evidence of warming is based on observations of surface changes (e.g. glaciers melting) in the northern hemisphere, and specifically the landmass of the northern hemisphere. Being that the earth is 70% water, with most of that south of the equator, it's very difficult to tell if this is full global warming, or actually a shift in climates--the north heating up while the south cools off, or the landmass heating up while the ocean cools.
I suspect we have a few more twists in the climate change debate before everything is said and done . . . and, of course, pollution is bad, so take the bus, etc. etc.
At 4:37 PM, lawnmower man said...
"Boogeymen being promulgated in the Caseysphere at the moment include 'Mark's suit is frivolous' and 'Mark is an unprincipled collector abusing the law to ruin Casey.'"
It doesn't take meta-labeling, or clever little pictures, or setting up a strawman claiming anyone who decries LMP's tactics are both wrong and inherently asking others to prove a negative, to simply read the existing record and observe what one may for one's self.
I, for one, have NEVER claimed any illegality on the part of this particular entrepreneurial bill collector.
I learned long ago, however, that there can be a rather sizable chasm between what is legal and what most would measure as moral.
Others may judge for themselves; Ten pages of the man's own past comments
Sweet mother of Jebus™ -- I found a picture of the contents of Erin Morgan's wallet. No joke.
It's on this Flickr page. Note the PrLinkBiz keyword tag. If you have good eyes and you rotate the picture, you can barely make out that her middle name is Virginia. Thanks Erin! :-p
"First you set up a claim that is poorly defined and cannot be proven false."
You mean like, Saddam's got weapons of mass destruction and our proof will be a mushroom cloud?
In case you don't have time to read it all, here is what happened to one individual who deigned argue online with LMP, who typically signed his posts as "Anthony Villaseñor", but did not happen to do so on this occasion:
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Before anyone gets the wrong idea, this post isn’t strictly about criticizing Bill Bauer (even though I believe him to be a public menace). Be that as it may, I have filed a complaint with my state AG’s Office (as a friend of the court) against Mr. Bauer and supplied supporting evidence and facts.
The reason being (again, just so no one gets the wrong idea) is because Bauer is violating precepts of the Consumer Protection Act, by offering consumers erroneous and misleading credit repair advice for a fee. An investigation is sure to follow so I’ll leave Bauer’s fate in the hands of authorities, who may or may not take aggressive action immediately (or at all for that matter)...
@BZ
Careful at throwing stones. Since you bring up statistics, how does pink noise affect the values in statistics and why? Concentrate on averages and variance.
Only true white noise can be averaged out in statistics.
And remember what is said about statistics:
There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.
You can make statistics say anything, all you have to do is carefully select your dataset.
This will be my last post on the topic, unless someone cares to dialog, but one may imagine that Mr. Bauer had a different point of view on matters leading to LMP's "turning him in":
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All we have to do is to consider the source in these personal attacks which are referred to in this thread to understand why they persist.
In case anyone has failed to analyze Anthony's tag line, I would suggest they do so at the earliest possible time.
It is extremely informative and clearly reveals him to be a collector of debts. A bit of reasoning then should lead us to the understanding that his attempt to discredit stem from the likelhood that he is in here spreading his hate and discontent for the sole purpose of attacking and discrediting those who might possibly have gained enough skills to make his efforts to collect for his clients more difficult if not in some cases impossible.
He isn't stupid, he's just trying to make sure there are no thorns in his bed of roses.
He'd like to make us think he's not selling anything and just offering his "professional" advice because he's a good guy. He's even had the temerity to state that he hates to see the little guy get bit, all the while doing all he can to keep them from gaining some modicum of defense against the venom he spits out when he goes about his true business of snatching up all of their assets he can via his collection efforts on behalf of his clients.
Mr. Nice Guy indeed!
Has anyone noted that on the May 18 talkshow, "Ultimatum: $1,000/week or Get a Job," after Duane's call beginning at 1:04:20, "Marty2007" from Las Vegas calls in and voices his support for Casey? Marty goes on and on about site traffic and how important it is to keep the blog open. "You can easily pull 50, 60 thousand out of your blog every year."
The interesting thing is Casey acts as if he has no idea who he is, even though this talkcast was held 4 weeks after the agreement was signed.
BC Antlers - please email Dutch Socialist, laostung@gmail.com. ID self in email. Thanks.
Please, I beg forbearance! I did not mean to fib when I said that would be last post on the topic unless replied, but I was VERY curious how the whole LMP vs BB thing came out, and I felt it was germane to things here. Obviously, if Rob Dawg disagrees, just delete this last post on the topic, with nary a peep from me, I promise.
To complete the story, about 6 months later:
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@ 11.18.2001, 09:59 bbauer
...I had to back him down the hard way. Of course, I just let him hang himself. He finally did and left of his own accord. It finally just got too embarrassing for him, so he flew off into the wild blue yonder somewhere.
But the problem is that there is always some new fool out there willing to step up to the plate and try to prove he is the new king of the hill. And pretty soon he's another dead duck too.
I probably got more notches on my guns than Doc Holiday, Billy the Kid, Wyatt Earp and a few more all put together. LOL
I guess those who think they are good at these flame wars don't realize that I spend time on various flame boards where the real pros do their infighting just for the fun of it. Those guys can come up with more tricks and traps and slams than Carter got little liver pills and they seldom get bent out of shape either. It's all in fun and just like me, they just sit back and laugh their heads off...
@Lou: Benoit -- who else? -- spotted this last month on CaseyPedia, but neither of us could face listening to it again to verify.
Is it the same voice?
BZ said...
Tesla seems to think that because thermometers have a 1 degree error, a conclusion that an average temperature change of less than one degree is meaningless. Take a stats class and try to understand the concept of average.
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BZ you should've actually read what I wrote before talking trash.
I did not say that a change of less than 1 degree is insignificant. You're obviously having trouble with the concept of "error bars". They're these things that quantify how certain a data point is. And the error bars in the commonly quoted temperature rise are much larger than the listed temperature rise. Which means that there is little certainty in the 0.6 C temperature rise figure that is listed everywhere. Hope this helps.
rob dawg:
" Several years ago I attended an open house at the Oxnard NOAA station. "
Yeah-yeah,NOAA guys are swell...we've got two or three of'em here in tropical and exotic Hampton Roads.
What I'd really like to know is if the bar is still open down by the port gate?
It was the "Top Deck" or the "Port O'Call" IIRC
The place was a real dive...vomit-soaked carpeting and the head was a piss-spattered nightmare.
One of the floozy barflies tried to fall in love with me there once.
This was her pickup line,(she yelled it over her shoulder at the bartender while fondling my love machine under the table):
"If my husband, my live-in, or my boyfriend calls,tell 'em I left with a guy!"
Personally,I think she only wanted me to stand up so she could reach my wallet and pick my pocket.
Lovely place, Oxnard.
@ Lou Minatti -- good catch, actually this was brought on Marty's Talk Page at Caseypedia (see "Talkcast Marty" section).
I had written: "Damned if I'm going to listen to it, but one of the exceptionally boring supporterz on Casey's fraudcasts was named Marty. IIRC, the voice wasn't the same as Marty "My Seekrut Hideaway Place Roolz" Stewart's, but might be interesting... "
I never bothered to actually double-check the voice. You're right, though, it's Marty Stewart. "Marty2007" also called into the May 25th fraudcast, at 1:51:27... sweet deal, good catch!
On a related side-note, on his last two fraudcasts, Casey attempted to take calls from a "WilliamGA". Both times no one answered and Casey was forced to move on.
But if it's not obvious, "WilliamGA" is in fact Serin advertiser/enabler William Tingle. Just throwing it out there for reference. :-)
Benoit,
Thanks for the great additions to help add depth to the story that we thought we knew.
I consider you like a god in your information nugget finding sleuthing thing.
I sure hope that the current unexplained absence of CH.c does not mean your excellent (and amusing) work there is forever lost to the world; at a minimum, I'd like to believe an archive will exist somewhere to pick over when the time is right.
Soem Dood... in my most nasally-monotone impression of Casey, I'll say, "Well, I appreciate your comments on that." ;-)
CHC itself is still "up" -- it's just the board that's down. The files are still there. As an example, to hold off withdrawal symptoms, view the Erin icon. :-Þ
Ho Ho Ho - It's Santa Flipper Clause
I predict the next post:
Job - Hand or Blow?
Santa F. Clause
Hmmm;
LMP is being TOO quiet.
It's like Al-Qaeda's radio chatter all of a sudden going silent.
re: Erin icon -- he he he
Can tell the pic you showed earlier was pre-Casey, 'cause she still had two bucks left in her wallet...
Ho Ho Ho - It's Santa Flipper Clause
What ever happened to Joy All Day?
Santa did not get a wish list from her last year.
Santa F. Clause
Benoit:
Is it just me or does Bill Tingle,(Pity him for his name),look a lot like Roseanne Barr in Man-drag?
sharkey said it's TOO quiet:
'like al Qaeda's radio silent'... maybe.
or like 11.18.2001 @ 09:59, nothing left to say...
BZ you should've actually read what I wrote before talking trash.
I did not say that a change of less than 1 degree is insignificant.
Nice backpedal attempt.
You said:
"Even today modern electronic thermometers typically have an uncertainty of +/- 1 degree C, and that's with regular calibration. So I'm suspicious that a 0.6 degrees C global mean surface temperature rise"
Sharky, hehe... is it a woman in man-drag, or a man in female-drag? Nobody knows! ;-)
One of the "Legend of Zelda" video games (for Nintendo 64, IIRC) featured a flying elf named Tingle. It seemed to fit nicely here, hence my appellation for him on his Caseypedia page. :-)
OK, I admit I hate sick fuck dogfighting enthusiasts more than Casey Serin!
soem dood;
"or like 11.18.2001 @ 09:59, nothing left to say... "
It's been prettyloud,long and public for LMP just to dropit for a busted radiator,(presumably), hose.
Of course,this IS the Casey Omniverse...where the farcically stupid and the patently nonsensical are as mundane and commonplace as the Laws of Gravity and Thermodynamics are in our own Universe.
IOW...fuck if I know!
BC Antlers, if reading: useful Dutchmen have a purpose, eh? Please email Dutch Socialist, laostung@gmail.com. Am curious. Thanks.
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@BZ
Careful at throwing stones. Since you bring up statistics, how does pink noise affect the values in statistics and why? Concentrate on averages and variance.
Only true white noise can be averaged out in statistics.
WTF does this have to do with anything? The poster made a specious observation that revealed a lack of understanding of basic statistical concepts.
And remember what is said about statistics:
There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.
I usually hear this uttered by people who don't know anything about statistics.
You can make statistics say anything, all you have to do is carefully select your dataset.
Or you can fabricate the data. Again WTF does this have to do with anything?
Benoit:
"is it a woman in man-drag, or a man in female-drag? Nobody knows! ;-)"
You gotta feel for the guy. He looks like that,his name is what it is,Junior High must have been a hideous daily catalog of shame and humiliation for him.
Way to ignore the context of my statement BZ.
Do you agree or disagree that it is misleading to say "the global mean surface temperature rise is X degrees" when the error is larger than X? Is it honest or dishonest to talk about such a measurement like it's uncertainty is negligible?
Hope this isn't considered wildly off topic, but re:Casey, just happened across record numbers on the Sacramento County website, so if anyone wants to plug these into Caseypedia, these are the reference numbers for the two foreclosures that show up there.
SERIN CASEY
Document Title: NOTICE OF DEFAULT
Book: 20061102
Xref: 060323 1861
(Book: 20070306 Document Title: TRS DEED UPON SALE)
SERIN CASEY
Document Title: NOTICE OF DEFAULT
Book: 20061116
Xref: 060104 569
(Book: 20070322 Document Title: TRS DEED UPON SALE)
soem dood
I have filed a complaint with my state AG’s Office (as a friend of the court)
Good find, soem dood!
He just loves to make himself appear to be oh so smart, but that hoof and mouth disease he has just gets in the way.
@ sharkey, re: quiet times...
Like you; me too: ...f' if I know!
C'mon Casey, get back into town with your passport stamped NRU and buy up a couple 'o local rehabs and give us all a laff...
soem dood thats a GREAT find.
Casey didnt even spend 10 minutes googleing this guy before he let him into his life. AMAZING.
Remember that movie Pacific Heights? =LMP!
@ akubi re:Vick -- I second that. I could have sworn I heard this same story about him a long time ago, but maybe I am imagining it. In any event, it is a horrible thing to do to man's best friend.
@ sam re: Pacific Hts -- Man, I remember when I saw that movie (only once, on original release at theater) it struck me as a movie I found very unlikable, but it also left a heck of an impression on me -- never have a tenant! So I guess it succeeded as a cautionary tale.
Casey seems to be pathologically incapable of rejecting an offer to sign a contract, buy a house, fly to some corner of the world.... if anything involves excitement and the chance to play Grown Up Business Man, he is there! (Well, at least right up until the time he later inevitably declares: "NO DEAL!")
I am generally comfortable with my belief system that humans (in general) suck, but I reserve my right to believe in the innocents whether they be dogs, ducks, cats, pigs, sheep, cows, chickens - even non-annoying humanoid children....
soem dood:
Seriously,no rancor from my end, what exactly is your beef with LMP?
He may be all that his detractors say that heis, I may even agree with some of it,but if he takes Fliptard down a few notches, it'sallgood, ain't it?
Quite frankly,there's some Haterz that I'd literally rather shoot through the face than share a cab with...and I have no doubt that others reciprocate the sentiment...but what of it?
It's not like we have to love each other.We're notorgingbonds of life-long "asshole buddy-ness" here,(pity us if we are...).
Just get our jollies from bringing Shitflake to some kind of justice.
Then we go our separate ways.
From where I sit,LMP has made the only move that has shown any results yet.
If you're not down with his effort,fine...but why try to scuttle it if the Hobbit benefits?
Forgot to mention koi which is a kind of fish in non-dirty pools...
Sharky,
Have you ever read Kafka?
Akubi:
Yes.
Sweet!
I would like to feature my last Ménage à trois moment involving two guys (other guy took photo hence hiding my face).
Akubi @ 8:25:
Yeah, but most of the humanoid children I encounter are the annoying kind...
As Sharky says, we are here for a purpose, however, I also believe there are some interesting people here.
sharkey: no animus here, either. Appreciate all your fine input and work to date.
But you asked me: "...if he takes Fliptard down a few notches, it'sallgood, ain't it?"
I know your tongue was a little in cheek there using a Casey-ism, and I also am hugely aware of the potential for hypocrisy for anyone watching this thing to try to establish any sort of moral high ground, but NO, dammit, I do *not* think it is all good, as long as a thing causes Casey discomfort. I hope they bury that scum bag unrepentant, lying scum bag of a multiple mortgage fraudster up to his eyeballs in a fireant hill on the lawn of one of his dilapidated former houses. But what leg do we have to stand on to see him punished, if the means by which he is ensnared are not above board themselves? Caution -- I am NOT saying LMP has done anything illegal.
But you asked me what my beef is with him. It is pretty simple: I am *not* going out of my way to 'get' the LMP. It appears most folks think that for some reason, and that is their right based on what they believe. But all I am doing is taking NOTE of his current and past practices, actions and words, so that the impression they formed in my own mind can perhaps be shared with others.
IF I read correctly, he has claimed his business model is to stand between the creditor and the debtor, and to potentially receive remuneration from both parties, and to not necessarily disclose to the debtor that he has any such relationship with the creditor. I have no legal knowledge to form a judgment as to the rightness of that in a legal sense, but you can bet it does grate me at a core level to think that someone could insinuate themselves into such a position as a normal course of their business. That forms the 'basis' of my dislike, and when you add on top of that, what appears to me to be PARTICULAR bullying tactics he has used to nearly extract a business, book, and website out of a person on the basis of a supposed libel that simply, AFAIK, did not ever occur, well, that certainly does not endear him to me.
He appears as a swaggering schoolyard bully in his writings and approach, IMHO. IF his deal with Casey was pro bono, why not just cut out when it did not work? And what did he expect to get? He and Duane have both claimed humanitarian motives, but both have ALSO acknowledgedd that at various times, they were in line to get something of value -- whether it was the site, a book, or sweet links, media, publicity, referals, etc.
Is it possible things are not at all as they appear? Sure. That's why I am glad this apparently did not change ownership without the court's inspection of the "Deal" -- that would make me feel a bit more sanguine if it is seen by them, not just signed over by Casey with the bluster meister yelling at him.
IS Casey nearly insufferable? Yes. does he take advantage, and does he ignore contracts routinely? It appears so. Would I hate to see him get some rough justice? Nope. But I am not going to endorse something I find completely distasteful at best in order to see Casey feel a sting.
Well, hope that provided some sense of my own very personal take, that I do not insist others follow or even agree with.
As do I, Segfault.
Oh, and all this: "Buying the site only to turn it around to put it in trust to place monies in escrow to forward to Galina..."
I think Duane is a decent guy. Someone said he is about the only major player who has not been caught in a bald-faced lie at some point in the saga, and that seems about right to me.
But I have a message for him, for LMP, for all the supporterz™ and Haterz™ everywhere -- if you wanna help Galina, you march your azz over, you thrust an envelope with a little cabbage in it into her hand, and you RAPIDLY walk your azz out of there. Or you post it anonymously to her in the mail.
Been done for centuries, always works pretty well.
So can we PUHLEASE get the whole 'helpin' Galina" disentangled from all the other book, website, and other business maneuverings that people are trying to swing?
Thanks.
Akubi;
If that was a boast, then congratulations...it appeared that you had fun.
If that was an offer,I respectully decline, I am a happily married man,and my word was,and is,my bond.
If it was relevant to Kafka, I'm at a loss...perhaps Kangatard's dullard ways are contagious.
soem dood:
"I also am hugely aware of the potential for hypocrisy for anyone watching this thing to try to establish any sort of moral high ground, but NO, dammit, I do *not* think it is all good"
Ahhh...that's the evil that is devouring Casey alive calling out to the evil inside of all of us.
Do "good" by doing him "bad" for his misonduct and his crimes...it whispers up out of that dark pit in your soul.
And very seductive it is.
No...I'm not a "good" man. I am a sadist...petty,spiteful and cruel.
I take delight in Fliptard's woes, and when he is crucified for the wretched thief that he is,I will mock and jeer him and rip out his toenails with pliers,(the kids collect'em).
Any good that comes of this will be in spite of,not because of my participation.
His conduct injured and impoverished me and mine in some quanta...this is no more than sweet bloody revenge.
If you don't delude yourself in the first place into thinking that you're a "white hat", you need not worry about being a hypocrite...in this narrow context.
That all said...your conflict seems to be one of difference over tactics.
Fair enough.
Shitflake's Sins are Pride,Sloth and Gluttony.
He has given himself over to them to the point of destroying his life,and the lives of those closest to him.Out of utter negligence,to be honest.
When you sign away your soul,you become food and sustenance for those like yourself,only more powerful and experienced.
C.S.Lewis described it best in "The Screwtape Letters",BTW.
Two kinds of people do business with Casey...those utterly naiive of his nature,and those profoundly aware of it.
In LMP,(and myself),he perhaps had the misfortune to meet two who are more the latter than the former.
Galina? The Toilet Scrubber is no more than a vulnerability to him...a "guilt spear" with which to bayonet the Hobbit's heart.
She "went along to get along",she'll "go along" again. She'll do fine...or she won't.
Why should I care more about her life than she has appeared to?
If Shitflake had made millions,she would not have asked where the money came from...believe it.
Akubi:
Your mention of Kafka set in motion a parallel train of thought while I was percolating the above.
I assume you were referring to "The Metamorphosis"?
SHARKY-
You have some serious fucking issues, possibly more than Casey. It is just a sad day when mentally ill people like you fall through the cracks of society and wander aimlessly endangering everyone else wishing you could shoot complete strangers in the face. That is just sad man!!! SERIOUSLY!
Seek help buddy! Your obsession is way too deep, and well... quite frightening to say the least. I can not believe (really I cant)that it is so easy for you to spew such hatred that I fear for the people that live around you in real life. If you threaten and wish you could shoot some "haterz" that you do not even know in the face what do you do in "Real" life?
Whatever:
"You have some serious fucking issues, possibly more than Casey."
Yes,undoubtedly...thank you. Your opinion is so very important to me.
"...people like you fall through the cracks of society and wander aimlessly endangering everyone else wishing you could shoot complete strangers in the face."
Don't ever,ever look beyond the surface representations of your happy little world.
There really ARE monsters under the bed,y'see.
In act,there may very well be one in bed next to you.
At all costs,and against all evidence, maintain your fantasy that everyone is a "shiny, happy people" right down to their core.
It simply wouldn't do for you to all of a sudden realize that you live among vicious and clever packs of chimpanzees...and there are not many cages, and even fewer keepers.
Because if you ever entertained THAT notion,you might be tempted to look in a mirror...
Soem Dood -
I fully agree with your sentiments on Mark, very nicely put.
He is a bully. He "wins" by picking targets who cannot fight back. To date, he has sued a non-profit and Casey. Wow, I'm impressed. What comes next, beating up a third grader?
I'd love to see Casey stapled to the wall, he is scum. This does not make Mark a good guy for going after him though - his motives are suspect at best. He still refuses to say where the $1,500 comes from - that is far in excess of his actual costs for the case.
If he were truly in this to "help Galina", he would NOT be pulling a profit out of the money that would be going to her.
SHARKY-
Youre sick man, and you cant hide that through clever monster and chimp diatribes. Please seek treatment, prozac now comes in a once a week pill I heard, even easier for you to remember to take. Do us all a favor, especially for yourself and those around you. Then take a deep breath, wash your dirty face and put on some clean clothes and find a hobby that doesn aggrivate your hostility.
Is the dawg inferring that Casey is on his way to South Africa?
it's just the {caseyhaterz.com} board that's down
Well, damnit, get that thing fixed! Otherwise I'm cancelling my subscription! Damn, you'd think the CaseyHaterz enmass could keep a website up as well as Casey himself!
Sharky @ 6:50 PM:
”Hmmm; LMP is being TOO quiet. ...It's like Al-Qaeda's radio chatter all of a sudden going silent.”
Actually, Shark; method to my madness... Silence being part of my fiendish master-plan to feed over fertile imaginations that obviously run amuck based on tiny bits & fodder, fragments to the pieces of a puzzle.
But that’s what a “schoolyard bully” does, right? Or does he hide behind false security taking pot-shots at those less timid, spouting moral indignities through distorted views? (I can never get those straight.)
~Mark
Retreating to my Cone of Silence ;)
@ LossMitPro:
"...]b]hide[/b] behind [b]false[/b] security taking pot-shots..."
Let me take some time to make one quite significant point about your not-so-veiled threat. I won't repeat this information, because I know you read this board, and once will suffice.
YOU insinuated yourself into a public, ongoing affair, with a stated intent to become a participant and actor on the issues, for reasons of your own. As you did that, you already knowingly refered to your own personal, as well as your corporate identity. Being familiar with the web and this situation, you knew full well that curious minds would seek out [b]public[/b] information to complete the picture of this new participant. You even filled legal papers against a principal. You have used your own name in VERY spookily similar activities in past.
Enough on your own position, let me outline mine:
I am merely a trainwreck watcher, making commentary on sites set up specifically for that purpose. I have no slandered, libeled or made false claims. I am not hiding. I am [i]maintaining[/i] an existing position of anonymity, as is my right.
I, unlike Casey, WILL eagerly engage an attorney when cause presents itself, WILL use that attorney vigorously, and will not be bullied or squelched by threats intended to keep me from presenting germane and publicly available facts on an issue of moment. I also am aware of my rights, and leaving aside your own laughable jumble of pseudo-legal advice dispensed with most threats, I have do the right to both speak, and to protect my anonymity.
Should I discover that myself or other person who has done nothing but observe has had the methods of people like, say, bill collectors use, applied improperly to ascertain personally identifying information (IPs, names, addresses, etc) I will take aggressive, sustained, and forceful legal action against anyone improperly cyberstalking me for my public and legally protected commentary on events of the day.
I hope that is plain enough.
I don't mind if in response to this you prattle on about double standards, ad geese and ganders, and such. I fully expect you to.
But you move a finger to use tools of the trade or improperly justified legal measures to uncover identities of those engaged in simple commentary, you will indeed be held to account.
Have a terrific day.
Soem Dood:
Well said.
[applause from gallery]
S_t_C
Good grief!
Hear, hear! I agree completely, Soem Dood. Mark/Anthony Villasenor, it shows a sad state of your mental affairs that you think your absence is lending itself to imaginations gone wild. What a world of fantasy you live in! I hate to tell you this - you did not cross my mind once yesterday - can you believe that??? I too, would employ any legalities necessary to insure that you and your tactics do not encroach upon the rights of myself or for that matter, any of the commenters here. There is a reason that all of us - with the exception of you and Duane - post anonomously. This is a mere diversion for us - it is not our lives.
As for "false security" - many of us here employ real live attorneys with real live law degrees to handle our affairs. The particular team that I retain would love to have you to use as a chew bone for the afternoon. I see your post was written very late at night - did you wake up with a start realizing just what a fool you look like to thousands of people that have read your uneducated take on how the legal system works? Did you suddenly realize that many of the people here think you are a pompous windbag for the way you try to present yourself?? That your name and reputation are forever damaged by this 5 minutes of questionable fame? And that isn't a pot shot buddy - it is the plain truth.
The only one living under an illusion of false security is you. Cause it sure as hell ain't me.
@ lawnmower man,
I tried to log onto CH.c to remind Honestly Wondering that we are getting together this Sat the 21st at 801 N. Orange, time 7;30 PM for a Casey HaterZ meet up. ALL are invited.
I promised him I would post yesterday and wanted him to post the invite to the other CH.c Forum members that live in Orlando.
I also wanted to shamelessly solicit 'votes for me' in the 6 degreez to Casey Serin and Jason Vorhees game.
The sight would not let me log in.
Could you get in touch with Honestly Wondering?
@ Rob,
If the Global Warming melts the Arctic ice, my downtown Orlando Condo will be beach front.
lawnmower man,
Gheez, just read the above posts. Some of us are not is a party mood I see.
IANAL so lets drink beer.
FMW
loosermitpro, get over yourself. people are not here to watch you. why are you so mad at the world?
What u talkin bout FMW???? I am always in a party mood. I just don't want some people at the party, that's all. First round's on me!
@ CSL,
Do you live in Central Fla??
Come on down!
@ All,
Oh, and vote for me Here!.
(-:
First, no Casey foreshadowing. Nobody knows what the toxic buttfly will do next probably not even the buttfly. This was an AGW thread.
Second, FMW, the artic sea ice is voluminous to have much effect on sea levels. Don't worry.
@ Alpha Dawg,
It may host a war before it melts.
Not a joke.
The Coming Conflict In The Arctic Over OIL.
Sharky/Akubi,
I haven't read any Kafka but I remember a comic book version of Metamorphosis from my days at UCLA, where Charlie Brown got turned into a giant cockroach. It was quite amusing, if you haven't seen it, and would probably be even more amusing for people who've read Kafka.
NR the Unlettered
LMP is correct and I am rooting for him. Keep the powder dry and see what happens.
When this soap opea started, Snowflake only thought about himself.
He ignored everyone. Even the ones that sucked up to the little dirtbag.
Then he decided to take trips as "everything is crazy".
But while gone, people started rearranging things. Sock drawers are funny, but relationships are not eh Casey??
Australia was a perfect example.
He doesn't run the game anymore. And if folks here don't show their hand early, he has no clue what is going to happen while on this trip. All the sudden it is not so good.
Heck, if we are lucky, it may even stop him from noticing a shiney thing or two as he wonders what it all means.
Soon enough he will be muttering Sundance's line
"Who are those guys??"
Last week he was thrown a life perserver and decided he didn't need it.
As far as I am concerned:
Hey, game on for that arrogant bastard.
H
Vacant pools have new residents
County officials battle mosquito breeding ground
The rising number of foreclosures in San Joaquin County is giving rise to something else - more mosquitoes, which love to make larvae in "green" pool water at vacant homes.
"A bad neighborhood not being taken care of can produce a lot of mosquitoes," said Aaron Devencenzi, spokesman for the San Joaquin County Mosquito and Vector Control District.
That is a big issue because of the threat of the West Nile virus, which is spread by mosquitoes. One of the nine human cases of West Nile virus infection reported statewide this year was in San Joaquin County.
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Can you say Casey? Read it here
@FMW: I don't have Honestly Wondering's email address I'm afraid.
If you want to write up a little blurb for the Orlando meetup, I can add it to CaseyPedia's "Current Events" page with a link from the "Breaking News" flashbox.
@Soem Dood, Casey's Sex Life: somebody has anon-reposted your comments onto IAFF on the "Attack!" post.
I know how to get in touch with Honestly Wondering.... can someone send me an email?
sprezzie.t@gmail.com
@BZ
WTF does this have to do with anything? The poster made a specious observation that revealed a lack of understanding of basic statistical concepts.
It has EVERYTHING to do with it. Averaging compounds errors when the data sample has pink noise. It reduces errors when the sample has white noise. Evidently you don't know statistics, or only know statistics from a layman's point of view QED.
And remember what is said about statistics:
There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.
I usually hear this uttered by people who don't know anything about statistics.
Or know enough about statistics to make them say anything they want.
@BZ
The comments above was in respect to your statement on statistical averaging.. which only works well with respect to white noise.
Re-First?
What happened to the other posts?
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