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Monday, July 09, 2007
May I Serve You Sir?
This will likely be the only Casey post of the day. Kvetch here and leave the other threads topical. [N.B. The timestamp has been hacked to reflect a later publish dat to keep this post at the top of the stack.]
I've actually been reading a bit more of EN in the last couple of days. EN long ago passed the pont where I could keep up with even a minority of the traffic, but now I have the other posters on CHC to bird-dog the sweet highlights for me.
Casey just put up a new post. He seems to be feeling pretty good about tomorrow.
"After talking to a lawyer I also did some research of my own. I found a great page written by no other than Judge McMaster himself. Here is the link: Ex Parte Relief: What You Always Wanted To Know But Were Afraid To Ask.
Here is my favorite part:
From the judge’s perspective, a request for ex parte relief often (1) places unrealistic demands on the judge to decide complicated matters in a few minutes, (2) severely impacts the court’s calendar, or (3) constitutes a waste of the court’s limited time and resources.
I don’t know about you, but I sure don’t want to waste court’s limited time and resources…"
I'll tell you why I'd defend Mark. He's actually doing something. He's bringing action to this mess.
Casey and some others say he's a "hot-head". I disagree. I'd be pissed too if I was him. I haven't seen him do or say anything I haven't heard in years of doing biz. It's not a touchy-feely thing like some here think.
Mark is doing what's needed to be done for quite a while. What have his detractors here done? Little to nothing except spend their time clowning around, photoshopping pics, and seeking out a feeling of community to fill the void in their lives.
I'd suggest to the clowns that they sit down and shut up. Watch Mark and maybe you'll learn something about how the real world of business works.
It doesn't appear Casey has any representation. What attorney would take that on without a nice fat retainer? His wish of finding someone to do pro-bono is as deluded as all of his other dreams.
Casey: After talking to a lawyer I also did some research of my own.
Hey, that will make Judge McMaster just all sweetness and light. He's gonna come in ready to rip someone a new oriffice. Gee, enie meanie minie moe... No, it will be real simple. "Mr V you agreed to intervene for Mr S with his lenders?" "Mr. S, you agreed to this?" "Mr V you used your contacts and reputation to try and help Mr S?" "Mr S how did you act in the light of this assistance?" Then the sh!t hits the fan.
"Oh! The lawyers are ruining the country, clogging up the courts with frivolous lawsuits!" cried the Angry White Males Club. Except when it comes to nailing a young family to the floor -- then it is justice served.
I am indeed from the Bronx... the nice part of the Bronx (Riverdale). :-)
My roomie gets 2 weeks of not having to make dinner. She said "not more than 10 miles from Van Cortlandt Park" and we all said she was off by an island. Oh well...
Mark's basically put himself in a no-win situation here "standing up for what's right" but going about it in a way that will just make him look bad... again, he has nothing to gain- he won't win a judgment but even if he somehow did, Casey can't and won't pay.
So here he goes bumping all this to the top of google for Mark Villasenor, screaming profanity on a talkcast and expending a lot of time and energy for nothing.
Hell, getting involved with Casey in the first place was a bad move and I'd offer that anyone that's actually in the "real world of business" wouldn't touch this guy with a 10-foot pole. I give Duane a free pass for a few reasons, but to me Mark comes off much much scummier.
Can local Haterz™ actually attend this hearing, or is it something that takes place in the judge's chambers (or out of public view in any way)?
Sorry, but no. I very briefly considering attending tomorrow's hearing. But the truth of the matter is I'm not going to take time off work to attend a 5 minute hearing.
Now if it were opening arguments to a criminal trial, then I might feel differently.
Is it me or am I the only one that thinks it's LMP & Serin are competing for the International Moron Award on this lawsuit thing. Just when you thought one side was a sure winner, we get the other side to one up the ante. Prime example is Fliptard's latest Clarence Darrel post on hiz mad skills research of da law.
Holy Jeezus H. Christmas. I almost fell off my chair when I read that one. This boy ain't right, ain't right I tellz ya. Trying to make sense of that post is like trying to figure out what Alan Greenspan said for 20 years. It can be done, but it's very painful.
Marty must be somewhere in a corner in the fetal position with a co-defendant like Fliptard making public comments on an open case like that.
BTW - that post about the judge only proves Casey isn't the genius some make him out to be. So what if he read some of the Judge's writings, what does it mean to him? HE apparently has NO lawyer and what's he gonna do...?
Just an update on Casey's two Sacramento and Modesto properties.
6500 Larchmont bought by Casey in March 2006 for $330,000 while listed at $289,000. He had it listed for sale at $220,000 for 171 days before a failed Trustee sale in March 2007. Was sold as a REO on May 11, 2007 for $199,900. That's $130,000 loss in 16 months. Take away his $40,000 back at closing and it lessens it to $90,000.
6842 Burdett bought by Casey in Jan of 2006 for $295,000. Finally put on MLS by Casey in Feb of 2007, for $239,000, only to be returned to bank after failed Trustee Sale. Has been an REO property offered at $225,900 since June. Not sure what he got for cashback on this deal, so he's working on a loss of roughly $70,000 in 17 months.
His Modesto property at 1910 Muncy Drive was bought by Casey in March 2006 for $323,000. Attempted to sale it as a short sale at $270,000 until May 2007 when the bank held a failed Trustee Sale. House is currently listed for sale at $273,900. Agent must think that having emptied out the pool makes the home worth more. It's looking like atleast a $50,000 loss on this one.
10:00p Dolph: All the people ripping on him are being very unfair. Hate him, fine...but give him a shot.
I agree, Dolph. There's a lot of people making a fundamental cognitive error - they don't like the guy, therefore he deserves it. I've seen enough from Mark so far to be satisfied taking a wait-and-see on his legal moves.
Even the fair-use thing was rational, knowing the actualities of fair use in U.S. copyright law (as compared to the free-speech mythist version).. it looked silly to the Internet denizens, but there was a logic there. Mark just didn't feel the need to justify himself to the crowd on it.
If McMasters guts him in favor of Casey, I'll publicly admit being wrong. But I don't think it'll happen.
Yep, if he loses I'll admit I was wrong about what could happen in court but I will still respect the guy. Mark at least put words to action and is DOING something. I wish people would get off their various prejudices (he's a collection guy, he's this, he's mean, he's a hothead) and accept him as a person who tried to do some good.
Why is that so hard for some? Many haterz (including myself) tend to be hotheaded when it comes to fraudsters. The trolls who tear Mark a new one tend to be mean themselves. So what, he's a freaking collections guy. What I see is a guy who owns a business that seems to make some money. He's not Casey, that's all that matters. He's a productive member of society.
Why the hatred for him is what I need to understand???? Argh.
Good post HW...I like you a lot. You and I see eye to eye on a lot.
Ahhh, I see. Flawed comparison, my friend...flawed comparison.
Casey is a fracking crook. Mark is not fraudulent. Please...he's trying to do the right thing. Would you rather we all keep griping on these boards forever and do nothing?
He's DOING something. Man, oh man, why do I even try anymore :(
Mark is trying to take ownership of IAFF. Anything less Casey would ignore. IAFF is worth around $15,000 according to Duane. Mark has not suffered any damages from Casey though he has from his own stupidity.
Oh please, Serinitis. So you are saying Casey is an innocent little man who can do no wrong?
Anyway, CASEY says the blog is worth $15K. Problem with that is Casey has destroyed it since then, so what's it worth with less traffic now?
Not a lot. I believe Mark wants the blog to keep Casey from trying to cause anymore problems.
You aren't seeing the big picture. Casey is not this benevolent victim. He's a conman of the highest order. I am glad Mark is risking a lot to pin this creep down.
Hmmm - Little snowflake seems to have a succinct and cogent refutal to the ex parte proceeding.
Either someone else wrote his latest post, or Casey has a few more brain cells than he lets on to his readers. I believe the latter.
I never thought Casey's strategery was manipulative. Rather, I thought it was reactive. Having dealt with him for so long, I now believe the former. His latest post is simply evidence of that theory.
Casey is a crook. He is also perfectly capable of destroying himself without help.
The big picture is you are willing to say its ok if its for our side. Would you also support someone breaking into his car and stealing his laptop? (I admit it would be funny, but it would still be wrong)
Oh for god sakes DO NOT play the Casey logic game with me. Look at my history and you will see I HAVE NEVER have wished harm on him. I WISH for accountability. Mark provides this.
Sorry dude, try again. I wouldn't even laugh at that happening. Sure, kharma is a bitch and all, but I want him to face the music.
I guess we agree to disagree on this one.
Again, please do NOT put me in the camp of those who wish him harm.
A prison yard hypothetical; "Casey? Casey Serin? The dude who caused an innocent 16 year old girl to become a target of sexual predators? Ohhhh yessss. We know Casey Serin. Hated blogger eh? Welcome to the inner circle of Folsom 'snooooflake....'"
There's been some speculation over at t'other place that this, plus the Dawg serving in the picture, are hinting that Casey himself was RCS.
I believe he said he worked collections at one time, but he currently does loss mitigation.
Loss mitigation, outside of internal lender programs, involves acting as a liason between a defaulted borrower and the lender. You collect required documentation from the defaulted borrower, counsel and advise as required, and complete a proposal to the lender that should allow the borrower to reinstate their loan.
It's not a difficult concept, you work with the borrower to provide an acceptable solution to the lender for resolving a defaulted loan, you're not a collector.
Is it too difficult to understand, or is bashing more fun than comprehension?
BTW, many people assume that not having any money left/not debt/assets etc. would leave you free and clear of 1099s. The Dot-Com bust showed many people the errors of that assumption. A 1099 is a capital gain/loss statement. Forgiveness on a loan is considered a short term capital gain and treated as income.
No doubt, but there is a difference between owing money and being able to pay it. See Blood v. Rock.
In fact, IRS docs use the rather humiliating (but accurate) term "indigent" in regards to this.
Also, I may be wrong on this one (IANALNDIPONTV -- i am not a lawyer nor do I play one on t.v.) but a debt that the creditor is still trying to collect is not a "forgiven" debt, thus not subject to a 1099. Even if it is sold to a third party bottom feeder at a discount, it's still a debt, thus not a gain. If the Iron Heel wants to insist that it's a gain, all the debtor has to do is show all the collection letters he's receiving proving that he still owes it.
This will likely be the only Casey post of the day. Kvetch here and leave the other threads topical. [N.B. The timestamp has been hacked to reflect a later publish dat to keep this post at the top of the stack.]
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I've actually been reading a bit more of EN in the last couple of days. EN long ago passed the pont where I could keep up with even a minority of the traffic, but now I have the other posters on CHC to bird-dog the sweet highlights for me.
I don't understand why Rob is constantly defending Mark.
I'll take a stab. Ummmm because you have a 131 IQ and zero human decency just like Casey?
Benoit,
Please do me a favor and comfirm that you are not from the Bronx . Some people just don't get NY accents and I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
Casey just put up a new post. He seems to be feeling pretty good about tomorrow.
"After talking to a lawyer I also did some research of my own. I found a great page written by no other than Judge McMaster himself. Here is the link: Ex Parte Relief: What You Always Wanted
To Know But Were Afraid To Ask.
Here is my favorite part:
From the judge’s perspective, a request for ex parte relief often (1) places unrealistic demands on the judge to decide complicated matters in a few minutes, (2) severely impacts the court’s calendar, or (3) constitutes a waste of the court’s limited time and resources.
I don’t know about you, but I sure don’t want to waste court’s limited time and resources…"
So reading between the lines: Casey does not have representation for tomorrow...?
I'll tell you why I'd defend Mark. He's actually doing something. He's bringing action to this mess.
Casey and some others say he's a "hot-head". I disagree. I'd be pissed too if I was him. I haven't seen him do or say anything I haven't heard in years of doing biz. It's not a touchy-feely thing like some here think.
Mark is doing what's needed to be done for quite a while. What have his detractors here done? Little to nothing except spend their time clowning around, photoshopping pics, and seeking out a feeling of community to fill the void in their lives.
I'd suggest to the clowns that they sit down and shut up. Watch Mark and maybe you'll learn something about how the real world of business works.
It doesn't appear Casey has any representation. What attorney would take that on without a nice fat retainer? His wish of finding someone to do pro-bono is as deluded as all of his other dreams.
@ Anita Biernow -- Please do me a favor and comfirm that you are not from the Bronx
I am indeed from the Bronx... the nice part of the Bronx (Riverdale). :-)
Casey: After talking to a lawyer I also did some research of my own.
Hey, that will make Judge McMaster just all sweetness and light. He's gonna come in ready to rip someone a new oriffice. Gee, enie meanie minie moe... No, it will be real simple. "Mr V you agreed to intervene for Mr S with his lenders?" "Mr. S, you agreed to this?" "Mr V you used your contacts and reputation to try and help Mr S?" "Mr S how did you act in the light of this assistance?" Then the sh!t hits the fan.
Can local Haterz™ actually attend this hearing, or is it something that takes place in the judge's chambers (or out of public view in any way)?
Just curious -- I'm not a law talking guy™
"Oh! The lawyers are ruining the country, clogging up the courts with frivolous lawsuits!" cried the Angry White Males Club. Except when it comes to nailing a young family to the floor -- then it is justice served.
I am indeed from the Bronx... the nice part of the Bronx (Riverdale). :-)
My roomie gets 2 weeks of not having to make dinner. She said "not more than 10 miles from Van Cortlandt Park" and we all said she was off by an island. Oh well...
How the real world of business works? Puh-leeze.
Mark's basically put himself in a no-win situation here "standing up for what's right" but going about it in a way that will just make him look bad... again, he has nothing to gain- he won't win a judgment but even if he somehow did, Casey can't and won't pay.
So here he goes bumping all this to the top of google for Mark Villasenor, screaming profanity on a talkcast and expending a lot of time and energy for nothing.
Hell, getting involved with Casey in the first place was a bad move and I'd offer that anyone that's actually in the "real world of business" wouldn't touch this guy with a 10-foot pole. I give Duane a free pass for a few reasons, but to me Mark comes off much much scummier.
Can local Haterz™ actually attend this hearing, or is it something that takes place in the judge's chambers (or out of public view in any way)?
Sorry, but no. I very briefly considering attending tomorrow's hearing. But the truth of the matter is I'm not going to take time off work to attend a 5 minute hearing.
Now if it were opening arguments to a criminal trial, then I might feel differently.
My roomie gets 2 weeks of not having to make dinner.
You guys are betting on my location based on accent? Sweet. I think. ;-)
Give roomie™ my congratulation. heh. Off to sleep (a.k.a. massive focused action)
Is it me or am I the only one that thinks it's LMP & Serin are competing for the International Moron Award on this lawsuit thing. Just when you thought one side was a sure winner, we get the other side to one up the ante. Prime example is Fliptard's latest Clarence Darrel post on hiz mad skills research of da law.
Holy Jeezus H. Christmas. I almost fell off my chair when I read that one. This boy ain't right, ain't right I tellz ya. Trying to make sense of that post is like trying to figure out what Alan Greenspan said for 20 years. It can be done, but it's very painful.
Marty must be somewhere in a corner in the fetal position with a co-defendant like Fliptard making public comments on an open case like that.
Roomie is gloating and we are brushing up on recipes. Sleep well, Benoit and thank you for indulging us:)
I own a business and know many others who do. If I ever need a collections guy, Mark gets the call.
He's proven to me he can follow it through. All the people ripping on him are being very unfair. Hate him, fine...but give him a shot.
He's been nothing but a gentleman to me when I've emailed him.
BTW - that post about the judge only proves Casey isn't the genius some make him out to be. So what if he read some of the Judge's writings, what does it mean to him? HE apparently has NO lawyer and what's he gonna do...?
Just an update on Casey's two Sacramento and Modesto properties.
6500 Larchmont bought by Casey in March 2006 for $330,000 while listed at $289,000. He had it listed for sale at $220,000 for 171 days before a failed Trustee sale in March 2007. Was sold as a REO on May 11, 2007 for $199,900. That's $130,000 loss in 16 months. Take away his $40,000 back at closing and it lessens it to $90,000.
6842 Burdett bought by Casey in Jan of 2006 for $295,000. Finally put on MLS by Casey in Feb of 2007, for $239,000, only to be returned to bank after failed Trustee Sale. Has been an REO property offered at $225,900 since June. Not sure what he got for cashback on this deal, so he's working on a loss of roughly $70,000 in 17 months.
His Modesto property at 1910 Muncy Drive was bought by Casey in March 2006 for $323,000. Attempted to sale it as a short sale at $270,000 until May 2007 when the bank held a failed Trustee Sale. House is currently listed for sale at $273,900. Agent must think that having emptied out the pool makes the home worth more. It's looking like atleast a $50,000 loss on this one.
10:00p Dolph: All the people ripping on him are being very unfair. Hate him, fine...but give him a shot.
I agree, Dolph. There's a lot of people making a fundamental cognitive error - they don't like the guy, therefore he deserves it. I've seen enough from Mark so far to be satisfied taking a wait-and-see on his legal moves.
Even the fair-use thing was rational, knowing the actualities of fair use in U.S. copyright law (as compared to the free-speech mythist version).. it looked silly to the Internet denizens, but there was a logic there. Mark just didn't feel the need to justify himself to the crowd on it.
If McMasters guts him in favor of Casey, I'll publicly admit being wrong. But I don't think it'll happen.
HW,
Yep, if he loses I'll admit I was wrong about what could happen in court but I will still respect the guy. Mark at least put words to action and is DOING something. I wish people would get off their various prejudices (he's a collection guy, he's this, he's mean, he's a hothead) and accept him as a person who tried to do some good.
Why is that so hard for some? Many haterz (including myself) tend to be hotheaded when it comes to fraudsters. The trolls who tear Mark a new one tend to be mean themselves. So what, he's a freaking collections guy. What I see is a guy who owns a business that seems to make some money. He's not Casey, that's all that matters. He's a productive member of society.
Why the hatred for him is what I need to understand???? Argh.
Good post HW...I like you a lot. You and I see eye to eye on a lot.
Feeling's mutual, Dolph. Feeling's mutual.
The hatreds of Mark is because he is as bad as Casey. Casey uses fraudulent loans to steal. Mark uses fraudulent lawsuits.
Ahhh, I see. Flawed comparison, my friend...flawed comparison.
Casey is a fracking crook. Mark is not fraudulent. Please...he's trying to do the right thing. Would you rather we all keep griping on these boards forever and do nothing?
He's DOING something. Man, oh man, why do I even try anymore :(
BTW, you are implying that Mark is a crook. Not cool...
Mark is trying to take ownership of IAFF. Anything less Casey would ignore. IAFF is worth around $15,000 according to Duane. Mark has not suffered any damages from Casey though he has from his own stupidity.
Oh please, Serinitis. So you are saying Casey is an innocent little man who can do no wrong?
Anyway, CASEY says the blog is worth $15K. Problem with that is Casey has destroyed it since then, so what's it worth with less traffic now?
Not a lot. I believe Mark wants the blog to keep Casey from trying to cause anymore problems.
You aren't seeing the big picture. Casey is not this benevolent victim. He's a conman of the highest order. I am glad Mark is risking a lot to pin this creep down.
Hmmm - Little snowflake seems to have a succinct and cogent refutal to the ex parte proceeding.
Either someone else wrote his latest post, or Casey has a few more brain cells than he lets on to his readers. I believe the latter.
I never thought Casey's strategery was manipulative. Rather, I thought it was reactive. Having dealt with him for so long, I now believe the former. His latest post is simply evidence of that theory.
Enjoy.
Casey is a crook. He is also perfectly capable of destroying himself without help.
The big picture is you are willing to say its ok if its for our side. Would you also support someone breaking into his car and stealing his laptop? (I admit it would be funny, but it would still be wrong)
Oh for god sakes DO NOT play the Casey logic game with me. Look at my history and you will see I HAVE NEVER have wished harm on him. I WISH for accountability. Mark provides this.
Sorry dude, try again. I wouldn't even laugh at that happening. Sure, kharma is a bitch and all, but I want him to face the music.
I guess we agree to disagree on this one.
Again, please do NOT put me in the camp of those who wish him harm.
I love Casey's newest post. I love how he acts all humble and says how happy he is we have rules and stuff.
Funny how he loves rules when they suit his needs.
We disagree on this one. I don't think you or any of the regulars wish him harm.
Those rules he loves will catch him and put him in prison eventually.
See, we can agree on something ;)
No hard feelings, okay? I just get passionate about my opinions.
@Rob Dawg:
A prison yard hypothetical; "Casey? Casey Serin? The dude who caused an innocent 16 year old girl to become a target of sexual predators? Ohhhh yessss. We know Casey Serin. Hated blogger eh? Welcome to the inner circle of Folsom 'snooooflake....'"
There's been some speculation over at t'other place that this, plus the Dawg serving in the picture, are hinting that Casey himself was RCS.
Hot/cold/red herring?
I've got $50 that says Casey is going to win this lawsuit. Any takers?
P.S. I'm 100% KC agnostic. But this lawsuit is a joke.
Why do people refer to Mark as a collections guy?
I believe he said he worked collections at one time, but he currently does loss mitigation.
Loss mitigation, outside of internal lender programs, involves acting as a liason between a defaulted borrower and the lender. You collect required documentation from the defaulted borrower, counsel and advise as required, and complete a proposal to the lender that should allow the borrower to reinstate their loan.
It's not a difficult concept, you work with the borrower to provide an acceptable solution to the lender for resolving a defaulted loan, you're not a collector.
Is it too difficult to understand, or is bashing more fun than comprehension?
BTW, many people assume that not having any money left/not debt/assets etc. would leave you free and clear of 1099s. The Dot-Com bust showed many people the errors of that assumption. A 1099 is a capital gain/loss statement. Forgiveness on a loan is considered a short term capital gain and treated as income.
No doubt, but there is a difference between owing money and being able to pay it. See Blood v. Rock.
In fact, IRS docs use the rather humiliating (but accurate) term "indigent" in regards to this.
Also, I may be wrong on this one (IANALNDIPONTV -- i am not a lawyer nor do I play one on t.v.) but a debt that the creditor is still trying to collect is not a "forgiven" debt, thus not subject to a 1099. Even if it is sold to a third party bottom feeder at a discount, it's still a debt, thus not a gain. If the Iron Heel wants to insist that it's a gain, all the debtor has to do is show all the collection letters he's receiving proving that he still owes it.
Why do people refer to Mark as a collections guy?
Because Mark referred to himself using that term on the last haterzcast.
He's in loss mitigation now, but his background was collections.
ratio of Casey related comments:non casey blab
for July 9th
246:35 (ie ~90% casey)
seems about right. so can we conclude that without casey, EN would be getting 90% less comments and traffic?
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