if it weren't for those damn haterz™. Casey is trying to jump the shark and the sharks aren't falling for it.
The interview was interesting. The body language, the lies, the practiced set phrases. Eyeroll = lying. Closes eyes = lying. Butt shift = caught lying. Head straighten = catch phrase. The blue ball, the murse. Did everyone see how diminutive he is? He's lower bunk in Chico for sure.
Please post what you set to Nightline and any other observations.
48 comments:
am I possibly FIRST?
Now that I am a "1% success" at being first, it is OFFICIAL. I am writing a book on helping people who want to be first. Stay tuned!
thurst!!
Dammit again.....
Gotta wonder how long it will take for the new visitors from Nightline to wise up. And if any of you are reading this, welcome to the Haterz™ of Caseyville Club!
I didn't see the Nightline crap, but what makes you think he won't get away with it?
Maybe he really is too small a potato and it's a cost vs resource issue with authorities. Snowflake is a failure and will always be a failure; we all know that. However, I won't bet the shark he'll be prosecuted.
I've seen drunks get picked up for DUI five or six times and they never went to jail. These drunks have the potential to...and do...KILL people. If society isn't going to demand they be locked up, why should I believe people like Snowflake will face the music.
I have no faith in the justice system or society.
[Here's what I left at IAFF. Remember I gotta post there occassionaly to keep the EN link fresh.]
Cheer up Casey, G's morning sickness won't last long and the sense of new found responsibility will go far in helping you achieving your goals. You said you want financial security by Sept '07 right? That should be just about right. Don't forget to budget for diapers.
Oh, and you might want to work on the eyeroll+blink thing you do every time you lie on camera.
I am to lazy to shift through all that dribble on Casey's site, When did he announce his wife was pregnant?
He hasn't. Yet. The anti-spam words were updated to include gamete and pregnancy among others. I called the end-game pregnancy back in November so I'm just going for an ultra-mega-pregga-first!
Look, I just got up and you're talking about that THING spawning??? Good lord, I can see what sort of day it'll be.
At any rate, is there a video from the Nightline thing available?
Oh and he's saying to participate with constructive criticism in the comments.
That's got to be Nigel.
I knocked up both hoes; Anna Nicole and G. One's for the money and the other is, well, a night of drunken regret.
Don't you mean:
And I'd have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those haterz AND THAT DAMN DAWG...
ima breeder,
I hope you got cashback at close. You wouldn't have this problem if you used a wraparound. At least you didn't have to use much leverage. Did you get into the deal by initially overstating your assets?
This is too easy...
Since Gordon came in third today, I'm awarding him the Nigel Swaby Excellence in Firsting Award. (Courtesy of the Blog Carnival of Freaky, Lord of the Flies, Incestuous Orgy Type of Thought.)
Whatever happened to Vague Guru? I was thinking that the Casey Serin Brand™ Wealth Repellent product line would be a good new direction for Casey to take IAFF and monetize all these sweet haterz hitz.
I'm getting concerned because it's starting to feel like Casey's going to get away with it, that the law just simply doesn't think he's worth their time.
This raises a scary question; what's the threshold now for actually getting prosecuted? If I went and conned someone out of their car, is it simply 'small potatoes, not worth the trouble?' What about eight people?
Could I punch a man, or rob him?
It would cost him more to press charges than to get the $50 in his wallet back. I know there's some crimes like assault and murder that are prosecuted regardless of cost because of their severity, but the fact that no one seems to care about Casey's robbery spree is getting to me, especially since he's basically just sitting on his blog saying "I'm going to rob someone again! Anyone going to stop me? I'm putting on my mask now..."
Aelfscine: This recent article is appropriate:
The FBI: Budgeting crime
The FBI has diverted a lot of resources from chasing white-collar criminals like Casey to chasing terrorists. (But there are a lot more Caseys than terrorists.)
I've said before my belief that Casey wasn't going to get prosecuted, and that his punishment would come more through an inability to escape bankruptcy and years of financial hardship.
Through luck or planning, Casey spread his borrowing around in such a way that no one institution was overly affected by his shenanigans, and therefore they're all less inclined to pursue additional penalties beyond foreclosure.
One thing we here at EN are not always good at is separating what we want to happen from what is actually likely to happen, and this is one of those areas. Just because we want him to be punished doesn't mean he is going to get that punishment in our preferred manner.
Casey's got him a new mini-crop of wide-eyed cheerleaders from the Nightline appearance. I give them 3 weeks before they're all gone or converted to haterz.
I agree with Sprezz, there's no getting poked in the pokey in Snowflake's future. And that's good because that would just be more money that we'd be out to incarcerate him. The best thing that could happen is for him to not be relieved of his debts. The one surefire way that we can ensure justice is served is to make certain that the judge or trustee for his BK case knows about all of his debts and their circumstances. If he never declares BK, then he carries these debts around until he repays them or dies.
Law enforcement obviously doesn't give a flying fornication about him though. It's probably a cost/benefit thing like others have said, but what the coppers don't seem to realize is that even a minor probe into Casey's shenanigans would make a huge difference. One interview at the Sacto FBI office would be enough to cleanse the last month's wheatgrass from Snowflake's colon and get him to drop his corporate scam idea.
@aelfscine:
This is sid f
If you want to commit crimes and get away with it, you need to avoid being the sort of person and avoid doing the sort of things that scare middle-class voters.
Meaning: avoid drugs, violent crimes, weapons in general, and large sums of money; don't rob banks or directly steal from pension plans and the like.
Stick to relatively small sums of money and keep moving from district to district. The fact that Casey looks and acts non-threatening (murse-toting poof) does not hurt.
R-Boy is doing the right thing. Even something the size of Enron might have been swept under the rug or plea-bargained into inconsequence, if it were not for the fact that the public was sufficiently outraged at Lay, Skillings, et al. to demand serious consequences.
@Rob: I am of two minds on this, but we may falling for a cleverly-constructed Casseytroll.
Casey's other ASW ("manbag", "sweet", "winwin", etc.) are obvious trollbait. So why not a pregnancy?
@Rob: I am of two minds on this, but we may falling for a cleverly-constructed Casseytroll.
Casey's other ASW ("manbag", "sweet", "winwin", etc.) are obvious trollbait. So why not a pregnancy?
Oops, I was wrong. Looks like Casey is on the hook for the credit cards and other revolving debt for three years from when he defaults. For the second mortgages, it looks like 3 to 15 years from either the end of the mortgage period or when he defaults (not sure). I'm assuming he's off the hook already on the firsts since they foreclosed.
Enron got prosecuted because it was such a big deal. The entire company collapsed under the weight of the fraud. Thousands of people lots their jobs and their pensions, tens of thousands of investors lost money. It was not even remotely small potatos.
Guys,
Casey is not off the hook, and he is not going to be getting away with what he did.
I've been putting in about 2-5 hours a week, contacting LE, contacting mortgage fraud investigators, journalists, and maintaining his wikipedia. I'm doing this as a public service, and because I actually don't want Casey to hurt his family.
Guys, I CANNOT say alot of what I know. I just can't. What I can say is this
1) Law Enforcement does care. They are well aware of, and are documenting all of his web-media. If you looked hard at sitemeter on Thursday, you would have not only seen 3 of his lenders, but 2 LE agencies. I have been talking to folks.
2) Jim's call was not in vain. It has led to goodness.
3) There is a large backlog of mortgage fraud out there. Media coverage HAS NOT BEEN his friend.
4) The LE works in a will have the entire case done with, from start to finish, and will indict/arrest/schedule trial at almost the same time. Thusly, it looks like LE is not doing anything , but the BAM, the hammer comes. Ask Jerome Mayne
5) I will be in contact with some folks about Casey's Nightline appearance. I hope someone recorded it. If you did, please upload it and send me a link at CaseySerinInfo.
6) That nightline report wasn't flattering, what it.
Again, KEEP Calling, KEEP Emailing, it is WORKING
Left for Nightline
Check out Casey Serin's Wikipedia entry and the blog Exurban Nation before you give Casey money, ideas, help, or encouragement. Many people are documenting his questionable practices and behaviors online.
And by the way I won't watch Nightline ever again (and will suggest to all the ad sponsors I saw last night to pull their support) because their research staff was too dumb to look at any site besides Casey's to find about how he's not the innocent pathetic victimized investor he thinks he is.
Left for Nightline
Check out Casey Serin's Wikipedia entry and the blog Exurban Nation before you give Casey money, ideas, help, or encouragement. Many people are documenting his questionable practices and behaviors online.
And by the way I won't watch Nightline ever again (and will suggest to all the ad sponsors I saw last night to pull their support) because their research staff was too dumb to look at any site besides Casey's to find about how he's not the innocent pathetic victimized investor he thinks he is.
@R-Boy
Bud what you're doing is off the hook in its sweetness...I am totally in agreement with you that LE types are less and less likely to let Snowflake off the more he keeps opening his big yap and jumps in front of the press (he just keeps creating a bigger evidence trail and an easier case for them). Oh and until they're good and ready, I wouldn't expect to hear from them. But when the hammer falls on Hammar and whatever the hell else the celebutard wannabe has been into, I expect to see some justice Eliott Spitzer style. And then we can start calling Snowflake Jailbird.
TVROB,
Im not assuming. i know this for a fact
Casey will be able to collect welfare if his wife has a baby.
@R-Boy
Of course you don't have to assume...given what you've been working on you're in a position to know what's likely to go down.
Still it'll be a lot more fun when you're free to share what you knew and when :)
Late to the party. Is the Nighline video available online?
I've got friends in Florida LE, and I can testify that Rob's right about how LE generally tends to work. Unless there's a pressing need to get someone off the street NOW (murder, rape, etc.), they'll build the case and then suddenly come down all at once. The alternative is to risk tipping the perp before it's a slam dunk.
Casey's not going anywhere anytime soon. He's not ready to bolt to Mexico, he's not getting any more houses, and every day he incriminates himself more. So if Rob's right and LE is building a case, they have nothing to lose by waiting until the case is ironclad.
I still think we won't see anything until at least the last house is gone. FC'ed, short sold or otherwise.
A year, about, methinks
Casey will be able to collect welfare if his wife has a baby.
And a whole host of other social services as well. I don't actually begrudge the baby (if there should be one) that stuff, as it will not be the kid's fault that his/her parents are losers, but the Snowflake living off my tax money is another story.
Particularly since I'm writing the CA gov't a tax check today *grumble*.
I did a little research and I'm kind of thinking out loud here wondering if I'm interpreting this stuff correctly. (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, I'm an idiot trying to get his feeble mind around what Casey is looking at.)
Here's some info I looked up on the statute of limitations on debts.
California Statutes of Limitation
Written agreements: 4 years, calculated from the date of breach.
Oral agreements: 2 years.
Open Account (credit card): 4 years (2 years if not in writing.)
Domestic Judgment: 10 years (can be renewed at 10 years.)
Foreign Judgment: 10 years
The statute of limitation is stopped only if the debtor makes a payment on the account after the expiration of the applicable limitations period.
WAGE GARNISHMENT EXEMPTION: Federal law applies.
MAXIMUM INTEREST RATE:
Legal: 10%
Judgment: 10% or contract rate
Also, credit report durations:
Foreclosure - 7 years
Judgement - 7 years
Bankruptcy - 10 years
Lates and most other info - 7 years
If I'm interpreting all of this correctly, the foreclosures are on Casey's credit report for seven years from when the NODs were filed. Under CA law, the firsts cannot pursue Casey for their deficiencies because they foreclosed through a trustee sale (unless they pursue him for mortgage fraud.) They can (and should) 1099 him on the deficiencies.
The seconds have up to 4 years from when the loans went deficient to sue Casey and get a judgement. Likewise, the credit cards and other unsecured loan companies have four years to sue him. Any lates or other info from these defaults are on his report for 7 years. Also, the seconds can 1099 him for the outstanding balance (not sure if the CC companies can.)
If the seconds or CCs sue him and win (which they surely would), the judgements will then be on his credit for 7 years from the time of judgement. Also, the judgements can be renewed before the 10 year expiration, meaning they will potentially follow him around for the rest of his life unless he pays them or BKs. If sued, he could also attempt to settle at that time to avoid a judgement.
Also, any bank account related delinquencies or closures will be on the Chex system for 5 years.
If judgements are entered against him, he would most likely have to file Chapter 7. The BK will be on his record for 10 years. However, any debts aquired fraudulently are ineligible for discharge. Nor will they be discharged in any future bankruptcies. So if the judge or trustee is aware of his mortgage fraud or of accounts opened after Casey knew he was insolvent, they will not be released. Casey may be released from his IRS 1099 obligations due to being insolvent.
Just hazarding a guess here, but with five 1sts, 4 2nds, and 13 CCs plus Cashcall and whoever else, Casey will probably find himself in court being sued by someone in the next year. Then assuming he BKs around six months after that, that would make his financial future look something like this:
2006/7 five foreclosures, 13 CC defaults, CashCall default
2007/8 Casey sued multiple times, receives multiple judgements
2008 Casey declares BK
2011 black marks clear from Chex
2014 foreclosures, defaults clear from his credit report
2018 bankruptcy clears from his credit report
So in 2018 Casey might be back to square 1 assuming he skates through BK. If not, then he's screwed indefinitely. Also, I wonder how the debts are handled if he is prosecuted?
Again, I don't really know what I'm talking about, but from reading up on it, that's what it looks like.
Oh yeah - the Chex System thing. People I've know who pulled something like Casey did with Wells Fargo have been put into Chex Systems. They could not get a bank account after that for a long while. Some of them still can't get one. It's all cash and money orders for them. Do the incriminating online records show that Casey still has a bank account, and if he does, is there any way to "relieve" him of that pressure? I'd hate for the poor lad to have to shoulder an unnecessary burden.
i gotta admit, nightline sure helped out his wiki entry
R-Boy,
I really hope your boys come through.
Another interesting angle with the four year statute of limitations on his debts is what if the lenders wait to sue until the four years is almost up? If they know the guy is insolvent, it seems like they would want to wait until the end to see if he had anything worth taking. If that's the case, it could be four years before Snowflake BKs and then he'll have DOA credit until 2021.
Then again, if they want to sue under grounds of fraud, they would probably want to get on that as soon as possible. And if his debts aren't released because of fraud, he's basically a slave to the banks for the rest of his life. This stuff is pretty interesting. (As long as you aren't in Casey's shoes)
A few observations on Galina's possible pregnancy:
1. I'm guessing that if she didn't get knocked up out of sheer carelessness on one or both of their parts, (and I'm not ruling that out as a possibility,) then Homey's post about Galina seeing a divorce lawyer/other people's speculations that her outing on IAFF a few weeks ago was a premeditated move on Snowflake's part to thwart an annullment actually has more than a grain of truth to it.
2. If Galina is pregnant, then Casey could also be thinking of "pleading her belly" as a cop-out for less jail time if he gets thrown in the pokey.
Fucker. I feel sorry for the kid.
Amazingly candid revelations from Serin and Kiyosaki about lying, cheating, stealing, defrauding, ignoring taxes, and not being one bit of remorse.
Go to youtube, type serin and also kiyosaki together; 45 minutes of jaw dropping stuff.
Casey's got that video posted on his current post.
Either Casey is not bothering to moderate posts today or there are none to moderate.
Oh geez Galina ( I think she looks like an eatern European Sally Fields) with a minature Casey sucking on her baby biscuits UGH! Pathetic. Big question, was Casey wearing his blue shirt in the Nightline piece?
Leigh, I'm sorry, but the fact you have been first once disqualifies you from writing a book or even giving advice on the topic. Here in CaseyWorld, the right background for that would be to wake up 6 hours too late and never have a post higher than #40.
Casey needs to be jailed for his own good, his family's protection and the protection of society. He is a sociopath and compulsive gambler who is totally out of control. There's such an element of the young Frank Abignale/Catch Me if You Can arrogance creeping into his newest, "brave-man" act that I fear the crimes he's anticipating committing are worse than anything he's already done.
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