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Friday, May 25, 2007
That's a Wrap
Okay, that was exausting. I'm gonna go do some reallife now. Talk amongst yourselves.
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Steve Serin contacted me earlier today and asked for me to put him in contact with Duane. I forwarded his email to Duane and Robert, and we spent today trying to figure out if it was legit.
We got confirmation. We were excited. I've been gone for dinner and whatnot, but I came back and I had a great 2 emails in my box.
(Thanks Homey, we're going to do great)
So guys, THAT was the suprise. And I guess it was well worth it.
For those of you who want to help contact the authorities and continue to inform folks, please email me at
caseyserininfo@yahoo.com
StephJ, thanks for posting the original steve serin contact info.
FUCK FUCK FUCK! I missed it AGAIN. Next time I'm staying at work and calling in from there. If I'd known about this tonight, I'd have stuck around and avoided every dick head from Wankouver, Portland and Lake Oswego trailing their demon spawn and canoes up the mountain.
I missed it too. Out to dinner w/hubby while the kidlet (or demon spawn, to quote Stephanie J, haha) was at the movies. Did anyone ask what he is spending the $1000 he earned this week on?
R-boy, thanks for your effort. This whole thing tonight has put this on a human level, now that we've heard from his family, who are being deeply hurt by Casey's out of control actions.
I wish I could help, but i can't so I'll just keep watching. Your cryptic message to Homey, and some of the others flying around tonight tell me you know who Homey is, things are afoot, and you're not going to tell us until it's over.
:)
Steven if you're reading this, or any of Casey's family...I'm sorry you have to live through this. It can and will get better. You have my best wishes this will be over soon and he gets the help he needs. You are a good man, and I'm sorry if anything we've speculated about you and your family hurt you - we play rough here, and we should be more careful to be respectful of you and your family from now on.
Wow.
What a day. My CEO stepped down, and now this. Thank god I have 3 days off! Whew!
I know I haven't been here too long, so I hope you don't get upset with what I'm going to suggest, but I'd think we ought to leave Steve alone, even if he is game to work with you.
He is family.
what Casey needs really is intervention, and maybe he needs a dose of the law and prison to straighten him up. I can;t imagine anyone who needed it worse. But the more his brother is part of that, the harder the relationship that they need to have FOR LIFE will be to reassemble. I don't think you or steve did a darn thing wrong. But I think Casey will hold a grudge forever, and if there is a way for Casey to get the help he needs without burning those bridges... I dunno, maybe I am all wet, but I just hated to hear the sense of despair in steve trying to make Casey see, while you can almost hear the cogs in Casey's head turning working the angle, is this worth exploiting now, or is this a marker in future... should I act indignant or confused by betrayal.
The guy is a sociopath.
Seriously.
And I hope he can get the professional help and counseling he needs. And can accept it, not just play the game.
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Duane, His advertisers are a wrestling promoter, someone selling a book, someone selling mix cds etc... Its not like he has legit business' advertising. These guys are just going to stick around for a month and then drop out. These are people who want hits to their site in a hurry and are paying for it. Stuff like this is only beneficial to his advertisers cause they know after the latest outburst, more people will go to the site.
@Cashback: Was that the stuff Mocha was on tonight ???
I think that chick was on something considerably stronger than a grocery-store Merlot.. I can't hold my liquor worth a damn and it still takes 3-4 glasses to get me nicely toasted. She was off the hook.
Just like the lady caller said "I can't answer, because no way I would ever be in that situation, as I would do everything to avoid it."
The thing I can say is that had I been dumb or callous enough to advertise before, I would have to see how sick it is to feed this ego addiction, and to support avoiding the inevitable crash. So, of course, I would pull whatever ads I might have had.
A sociopath would never respond to meds or therapy. They are wired in such a way that they are beyond help. Nothing the family can do except thank god snowflake isn't the next Ted Bundy......
Whatever the answer is, add $100 from me, i said before I would, if Rob and Duane were gonna do what they did. I thought it was Mom, but Steven was just as good.
After listening to Steve and thinking about it a bit, I am beginning to feel a little bit queasy about this whole thing.
Clearly, everybody knows what's going on except Casey. His family knows and can't seem to do anything about it. I'm really not sure that we are accomplishing much with all these ourselves.
Anyway, I'm taking a break from this for a couple of days. If Casey doesn't come down to reality now, then he never will, and it'll ultimately be between himself, his family and maybe law enforcement to sort it all out.
The mother's involvement in KC's BS is still a mystery. Perhaps due to personal family matters/respect Steve chose to avoid bringing her up? Shit, if Casey did that to my mom, I'd get medieval on his ass.
"Establishing the diagnosis Antisocial personality disorder and the closely related construct of psychopathy can be assessed and diagnosed through clinical interview, self-rating personality surveys, and ratings from coworkers and family. For diagnosing psychopathy in forensic male populations, the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is considered definitive.
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR) The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
-failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
-deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
-impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
-irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults (not so much)
-reckless disregard for safety of self or others
-consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
-lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
The manual lists the following additional necessary criteria:
The individual is at least 18 years of age.
There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode."
How much has been raised so far for Habitat for Humanity?
Looks to be about $1000, maybe a little more. Everyone has been following advice and donating to their prefered project or where most needed so I am not the conduit and only get feedback if they send an e-card saying it was in the name of Exurban Nation.
Someone in Casey's family is the enabler, probably his mom. Dad goes along as to not upset mom and Casey's brothers want to kick his ass.
Casey will now attempt to turn the tables on Steve for daring to confront him by telling other family members that Steve is a "hater". Hopefully Steve will kick the shit out of Casey and tell his mom to wake up. Experience tells me that poor Steve will probably be told to stop "hassling" Casey by the ever protective parents.
Just got this posted over at IAFF in the Larchmont Foreclosure thread. I wonder if he'll take it down. A bit subtler than the old IAFF-crostics.
### 36. Anna-Cruz Teak May 25th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Generating a large income’s not always easy. Ask the stupid Haterz about Rob Dawg’s profession’s upcoming layoffs, stagnating investments, negative growth, etc. Look, every person’s Hating about nitpicking trivialities. So invest zealously everyday! Debt can’t overcome “Comeback Kid” Serin. ###
Hey Stephanie J -- maybe you can catch the re-pod-cast -- 'cause I did not listen either (I think he gets a dollar per listener or something.) The play by play was good.
Rob Dawg, If I were making any money in my looser-ass-w-2 job, there would be no need to hate on things. Thanks to mofo govt employment, it ain't there. Did what I could, sorry if I'm not a Rockefeller.
Steve Serin is a fake - that's a brother talking folks, not Steve Serin. ((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))) I heard the show, (was on after Steve) and he sounds like Casey, as my sister and I sound identical on the phone. Steve was the real deal.
Thanks for posting the mp3, I just got done listening to it. All I can say is, Casey is beyond help.
When Steve asked him if he cared about the family name, Casey immediately assumed he meant the Haterz™ were digging up dirt on the family & posting it. Any sensible person would take it to mean Casey's actions are ruining the family name.
What a self centered, egomaniacal, sociopathic idiot.
oh yeah, it's now available to download off talkshoe. If anybody needed any more proof that Casey has no shame, not blocking the show where his own flesh and blood point out what an arse he is should tip the scale.
Kudos Steve, it must suck to have to air your dirty laundry like this but your brother really does need these extreme methods to finally make him see some sense. You did more to bring honour back to the Serin name than your brother will in his lifetime.
Is Steve the hot Marine brother who we think should give CS some tuff luv, combat boot style or the brother who saved him with new car tyres and windows?
Always tend to question my opinions on things (if that weren't the case, this ridiculous Serin obsession would not have continued for so long), but I'm smelling some stinky fish and I'm not sure where it happens to be coming from.
SerMom co-signed on his corporate credit. This is a scam that he purchased from a Long Beach outfit. It is a scheme whereby cash is extracted in the name of the shell corporation, and spent by Casey, and will be stuck on Mom's credit report.
Thanks for the shoutout. Can't claim credit for that chart, but the full piece is at: We are HERE.
As noted earlier, I'm going to be a bit scarcer around these parts than I've been for the past couple of weeks. Want to enjoy the weekend, not do much hating on anyone, maybe write a piece that might be useful to somebody, though probably not Casey, and chill for a bit. The discussion with the brother has me suddenly feeling that this thing will end very badly, and wondering if we're egging him on as much as he's baiting all of us.
Or maybe I just need a drink. To quote a great American: I never drink unless I'm alone. Or with people.
Creditors tend to want the owners of small companies to personally guarantee any loan. Since Casey's credit score is subterrainian, he had to bring his mother in as a guarantor.
Of course he'll default on the loans like on all the others before, leaving his mother holding the bag.
Anon, the sins of the father are not visited upon the son, and vice versa. I have seen plenty of parents with a good kid and a bad kid, to be so quick to blame it on the parents. Yes, it is a rare thing to see a family of crooks. Casey is a grown man. It is an interesting theory that you have. You just have very flimsey evidence. Mom could be a wheelchair bound babuska for all we know. They have a decent house, and a son who is a marine. What more do you want?
@ Below the crowd, Just opened a beer myself. It is Midnight here in Orlando. Posted the graph at housingPanic too. That on coming Train is a big one, glad I am ahead of it. TTFN. Have a good one. (:
We have a similar if not identical situation with my wife's family.
One of my brother in law almost caused my my mother in law to lose her house due to a shinanogon. Most of the family thought it was ok.
In my OWN family, these things were NOT tolerated and quickly stopped. My brother would have been no different, except for the fact that my mother put a stop to many of his schinanogoes early on.
Most parents don't want to put any efforts into rasing their kids, let the baby sitters to that why they go off to work only to find a total stranger 16 years later called your son/daughter.
I think the word you're trying for is "shenanigans".
Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, " Shenanigans." Mac: Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks? Farva: You mean Shenanigans? Mac: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Thorny: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO. [as they hand the Captain their pistols]
Hey FMW, another Orlando hater! I've been kicking back here in Winter Park all evening. :) __________________ Kewel. Nice to see some Florida bubble town brains in the mix here at EN. Just drove over to the village to pick up my 16 year old son, now I can have a cold one! Thank God I was not drinking whilst jousting with KC. te he. I am Downtown, well, the new Up Town, across from The Citrus Restaurant. Small World wide Web. te he
I heard this crap. Good grief, this asshole keeps bringing the convo back to himself; he is truly scary and Galina needs to get the FUCK out. He is truly a sick sociopathic motherfucker.
I hope Steve and family do complete an intervention and take the PDA and the laptop away from his lying, manipulative ass.
Steph, actually i was thinking about that, i couldnt actually beat a poem. I do play piano as a side job, i might possibly compose a song next time, live on the air!
Hope don't mind if I sit this one out. My words but a whisper — your debt a work-out. The news makes you feel but it cant make you think. Your score’s in the gutter — your price in the drink.
So you ride yourselves over the fields and You make all your Serinesque deals and Your loan men don’t know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
And the sand-castle values are all swept away in The tidal destruction The moral melee. The seismic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers The unsuited prey. But your hummers are worn at the wheels and Your credit card’s starting to squeal and Your loan men dont know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
What's with all the fretting with making our own low-fi MP3s and hosting them?
Just download it from TalkShoe -- or have iTunes suck it down.
Sure, Casey gets a cut of the advertising revenue; but how much is that going to net him, really? $1 per 1000 downloads or something tiddly like that? Is working around it really worth the effort?
(Besides, if it's as good as the reviews say, Casey can have the dirty 1/10th penny from my download. Sounds like good value.)
Steve, you were awesome, and you have nothing to be ashamed of, you did the right thing.
Flying monkey, probably the best antidote to Casey's turnaround questions and manipulations.
Duane, I'm glad you bailed on this piece of crap. Who did you 'out' Nigel? That fuck loves the attention. Chris Record? Another imbecile con artist that needs to be looked into. Like someone said, hey CAsey, what about the trust between you and your lenders, your wife, pretty much anyone you get into contact with.
Dolph, frankly, I don't think I could have controlled myself like you did, Casey is a piece of shit, and you did a good job staying on track with your message.
It's obvious that Casey thinks he is still going to get the magic windfall and put all his problems in a box that he can throw away. I think Galina is going to divorce this liability. Frankly, Steve would probably make a better husband.
Mannnnnnnnnnnnn...you guys really need to get a life. Don't you have nothing better to do than hate on this poor 24 year old kid that tried to "make things happen" for himself and his family??? So what if he did not want a hum-drum life...this is America...you can do what the FUCK you want.
He took a class for fuck's sake. He was obviously not planning to defraud anyone. He just got a lil over his head...OK, wayyyyyyyyyy over his head. Got caught up with what he thought were "usual industry practices" and he is trying to amend the mess he created for HIMSELF and HIS life. Its just a case of robbing peter to pay paul that you all do in your dull lives...just on a larger scale....but at 24??? The dude got some balls...hell..."blue balls"!!! (lol) Your dumb asses were just supposed to listen and learn. So why do you all have to convene at the club house like a bunch of rejects and rain on his parrade. Dis me all you want...adds to invalidate your comments about K-C...cuz...ur soooooooooooo wrong about me. But I don't give a fuck...and will not try to defend shit about who I am, what I do or how I am...I wont let u live life through me the way you do with K-C!!! I'm old enough to know that you're just a bunch of angry losers...if its not K-C...you will just move on to the next....ummmmmmm "victim". Most of u have failed in real life or hate ur damn W-2 job...hehehehehehehe and escape online to protray these "personas" so u can develop these so called "friends" in ur sorry haterz community. Listen to all your strategic planning and shit!!!!!!! You're a pathetic lot!!!!!!!!!! Actually...DON'T STOP...keep it coming...more money in K-C's pocket...you "keep him on his toes"... . Bunch of dumbasses...he wins anyway...screw you!!!
"and will not try to defend shit about who I am, what I do or how I am...I wont let u live life through me the way you do with K-C!!! I'm old enough to know that you're just a bunch of angry losers...if its not K-C..."
If you aren't trying to defend yourself, then why post here? You changed your voice to avoid lenders? "I owe so many people..er ummm I mean other people owe so much money", "I get called many many times a day, I cahnged my accent so many times..I mean this is what other people do" Okaaaay..another leech to society. Oh and by the way Mocha...you should try alcoholics anonymous sometime. With supporters like you who needs enemies. you love him so much..marry him..you know he's going to single soon right? Now, go pick up your welfare check and go get some more booze. If you drink less than a bottle a day..it may just last thru the weekend.
I heard this crap. Good grief, this asshole keeps bringing the convo back to himself; he is truly scary and Galina needs to get the FUCK out. He is truly a sick sociopathic motherfucker.
I've been reading here for a while, first time commenting. I just wanted to comment on this -- I swear, if I didn't know better, I would think Casey was my creepy ex.
Little things that are coming out in his behaviors, even his writing style, are so similar. I really do worry for Galina, especially the contract where she made him promise to stop manipulating her.
My story didn't end so well, but at least I am not married to him and $2m in debt...
Priceless. Absolutely priceless. This is what I get for hanging out with some friends and watching the Pirates movie, then grabbing some pizza and beer.
R-Boy, Dawg, Duane, Steve - Thanks for giving fliptard massive kicks to the head.
All the other haterz call-ins - Great work.
Now it's time for me to hear the interesting parts of the broadcast.
Put the crack pipe down. First off, give it a little time, because after Casey's wife dumps him, you can take your insane ass to Sacremento and shack up with him in his car. He seems to be so totally your type.
"and will not try to defend shit about who I am, what I do or how I am...I wont let u live life through me the way you do with K-C!!! I'm old enough to know that you're just a bunch of angry losers...if its not K-C..."
Forgive me for using this language. I don't use this word... ever. But for some reason, as I read MOCHA's words... all I could think was "stupid cunt".
Okay, that was exausting. I'm gonna go do some reallife now. Talk amongst yourselves.
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FIRST!
That was 78 minutes on my cell phone bill i cant get back
MURST and all this stuff
Murstness.
I would like to point out that this was my 10th!! FIRST IN A ROW !
I am seeking multiple passive income streams so I must have 5000 minutes a month on my cell phone for contacts and Birdogging.
te he
Sweet, "Sweet Cash" Back.
I am wondering if exurbannation.blogspot.com was mentioned enough on the call today :-)
Just wanted to let everyone know that science has confirmed what we all have suspected: these fraudcasts go *much* better with an elevated blood alcohol level.
I'd like to thank Woodbridge by Robert Mondavi for making this evening a pleasurable one!
I had to break out the popov
Did Casey ever go back to Steve?
This has to be the best fraudcast in the history of the internet.
i think we only got two mentions in tonight
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Was that the stuff Mocha was on tonight ???
ugh i was busy in meatspace, so sum it up to me, did the callers let Casey have it?
The Spouse just got home & we are ordering some pizzas. I think I shall uncork a bottle of wine now.
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Time to give back the money you took, Casey!
Casey should get drunk for next weeks fraudcast. That would make it much better!!!
Guys,
Steve Serin contacted me earlier today and asked for me to put him in contact with Duane. I forwarded his email to Duane and Robert, and we spent today trying to figure out if it was legit.
We got confirmation. We were excited. I've been gone for dinner and whatnot, but I came back and I had a great 2 emails in my box.
(Thanks Homey, we're going to do great)
So guys, THAT was the suprise. And I guess it was well worth it.
For those of you who want to help contact the authorities and continue to inform folks, please email me at
caseyserininfo@yahoo.com
StephJ, thanks for posting the original steve serin contact info.
If anyone talks with Galina, tell her we are all sorry, and that I know of a good divorce lawyer.
FUCK FUCK FUCK! I missed it AGAIN. Next time I'm staying at work and calling in from there. If I'd known about this tonight, I'd have stuck around and avoided every dick head from Wankouver, Portland and Lake Oswego trailing their demon spawn and canoes up the mountain.
You're welcome. THIS SUCKS. ::pout::
I missed it too. Out to dinner w/hubby while the kidlet (or demon spawn, to quote Stephanie J, haha) was at the movies. Did anyone ask what he is spending the $1000 he earned this week on?
R-Boy, good work.
I wish Casey were more receptive to what Steve had to say, but hopefully it will sink in eventually.
Allright, well
how can we top this?
I know
Itll be done Monday
(a call that is)
R-boy, thanks for your effort. This whole thing tonight has put this on a human level, now that we've heard from his family, who are being deeply hurt by Casey's out of control actions.
I wish I could help, but i can't so I'll just keep watching. Your cryptic message to Homey, and some of the others flying around tonight tell me you know who Homey is, things are afoot, and you're not going to tell us until it's over.
:)
Steven if you're reading this, or any of Casey's family...I'm sorry you have to live through this. It can and will get better. You have my best wishes this will be over soon and he gets the help he needs. You are a good man, and I'm sorry if anything we've speculated about you and your family hurt you - we play rough here, and we should be more careful to be respectful of you and your family from now on.
Wow.
What a day. My CEO stepped down, and now this. Thank god I have 3 days off! Whew!
I just read Duane's post today. I'd like to know more about Chris Record's involvement in all of Casey's scams. Casey was traveling with him?
please, for the love of god someone post a recording of the show. It's not coming up for download at talkshoe so i guess Casey has blocked it.
R-Boy, Dawg, and all:
I know I haven't been here too long, so I hope you don't get upset with what I'm going to suggest, but I'd think we ought to leave Steve alone, even if he is game to work with you.
He is family.
what Casey needs really is intervention, and maybe he needs a dose of the law and prison to straighten him up. I can;t imagine anyone who needed it worse. But the more his brother is part of that, the harder the relationship that they need to have FOR LIFE will be to reassemble. I don't think you or steve did a darn thing wrong. But I think Casey will hold a grudge forever, and if there is a way for Casey to get the help he needs without burning those bridges... I dunno, maybe I am all wet, but I just hated to hear the sense of despair in steve trying to make Casey see, while you can almost hear the cogs in Casey's head turning working the angle, is this worth exploiting now, or is this a marker in future... should I act indignant or confused by betrayal.
The guy is a sociopath.
Seriously.
And I hope he can get the professional help and counseling he needs. And can accept it, not just play the game.
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OK... Lets just say your an advertiser... you got your plug.. stuck around to listen to the talk...
then BBAAMM... his brother hits him...
again your his advertiser.. what would oyu do?
Duane - what do you know about Chris Record?
Duane,
His advertisers are a wrestling promoter, someone selling a book, someone selling mix cds etc... Its not like he has legit business' advertising. These guys are just going to stick around for a month and then drop out. These are people who want hits to their site in a hurry and are paying for it. Stuff like this is only beneficial to his advertisers cause they know after the latest outburst, more people will go to the site.
@Duane
A. Call in next week and babble about pro wrestling
B. Yank my ad, reverse the PayPal payment, and try to forget I ever heard the name Casey Serin?
@Cashback: Was that the stuff Mocha was on tonight ???
I think that chick was on something considerably stronger than a grocery-store Merlot.. I can't hold my liquor worth a damn and it still takes 3-4 glasses to get me nicely toasted. She was off the hook.
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Please see disclaimer in previous thread.
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--JVJ
Duane,
Just like the lady caller said "I can't answer, because no way I would ever be in that situation, as I would do everything to avoid it."
The thing I can say is that had I been dumb or callous enough to advertise before, I would have to see how sick it is to feed this ego addiction, and to support avoiding the inevitable crash. So, of course, I would pull whatever ads I might have had.
A sociopath would never respond to meds or therapy. They are wired in such a way that they are beyond help. Nothing the family can do except thank god snowflake isn't the next Ted Bundy......
To DUane--- Not me
YOu asked...
Duane - what do you know about Chris Record?
My answer... nothing. except his name and what little has been written in the blogging world.
If that was his mechanic younger brother, can you imagine what his Marine Brother would have done to give him a wake up call?
The problem is, just like these Hollywood bimbos who take a plush detox and drink while in, and laugh it off -- it won't work if you are not ready.
Casey may never be ready. I think he is channeling "Death of a Salesman."
He is addicted to his blog.
KC's become the Joey Buttofuco of Real Estate investing.
Marine brother would throw him a blanket party
How much has been raised so far for Habitat for Humanity?
@Akubi
Whatever the answer is, add $100 from me, i said before I would, if Rob and Duane were gonna do what they did. I thought it was Mom, but Steven was just as good.
Hmmmm.
After listening to Steve and thinking about it a bit, I am beginning to feel a little bit queasy about this whole thing.
Clearly, everybody knows what's going on except Casey. His family knows and can't seem to do anything about it. I'm really not sure that we are accomplishing much with all these ourselves.
Anyway, I'm taking a break from this for a couple of days. If Casey doesn't come down to reality now, then he never will, and it'll ultimately be between himself, his family and maybe law enforcement to sort it all out.
Enjoy, but I've got other things to do right now.
-btc
The mother's involvement in KC's BS is still a mystery. Perhaps due to personal family matters/respect Steve chose to avoid bringing her up? Shit, if Casey did that to my mom, I'd get medieval on his ass.
In CA you can get an annulment for fraud, correct? How long do you have to be married before annulments are no longer allowed?
Galina might have a way out but she'd have to act fast.
From Wikipedia:
"Establishing the diagnosis
Antisocial personality disorder and the closely related construct of psychopathy can be assessed and diagnosed through clinical interview, self-rating personality surveys, and ratings from coworkers and family. For diagnosing psychopathy in forensic male populations, the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is considered definitive.
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
-failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
-deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
-impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
-irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults (not so much)
-reckless disregard for safety of self or others
-consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
-lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
The manual lists the following additional necessary criteria:
The individual is at least 18 years of age.
There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode."
looks like a match to me.
i do not know who homey is
Perhaps Dr. Phil can solve the Serin house troubles.
How much has been raised so far for Habitat for Humanity?
Looks to be about $1000, maybe a little more. Everyone has been following advice and donating to their prefered project or where most needed so I am not the conduit and only get feedback if they send an e-card saying it was in the name of Exurban Nation.
I hope that all you folks know that Casey and the Sunshine Band, ie, his entire family, are together on the Fraud.
I have never seen so many naive people in my entire life. No wonder Casey brings out the worse in you.
Galina Serin has been very active in all or most of Casey's Fraud. Fact. Period.
His family supports his efforts. Fact. Period.
Let the trolling begin...
Steve showed a lot of character tonight. It took guts to go and take Casey on in his own element. Will it do any good? only time will tell...
Someone in Casey's family is the enabler, probably his mom. Dad goes along as to not upset mom and Casey's brothers want to kick his ass.
Casey will now attempt to turn the tables on Steve for daring to confront him by telling other family members that Steve is a "hater". Hopefully Steve will kick the shit out of Casey and tell his mom to wake up. Experience tells me that poor Steve will probably be told to stop "hassling" Casey by the ever protective parents.
I hope that all you folks know that Casey and the Sunshine Band, ie, his entire family, are together on the Fraud.
I have never seen so many naive people in my entire life. No wonder Casey brings out the worse in you.
Galina Serin has been very active in all or most of Casey's Fraud. Fact. Period.
His family supports his efforts. Fact. Period.
It's a family affair
Just got this posted over at IAFF in the Larchmont Foreclosure thread. I wonder if he'll take it down. A bit subtler than the old IAFF-crostics.
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36. Anna-Cruz Teak
May 25th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Generating a large income’s not always easy. Ask the stupid Haterz about Rob Dawg’s profession’s upcoming layoffs, stagnating investments, negative growth, etc. Look, every person’s Hating about nitpicking trivialities. So invest zealously everyday! Debt can’t overcome “Comeback Kid” Serin.
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Hey Stephanie J -- maybe you can catch the re-pod-cast -- 'cause I did not listen either (I think he gets a dollar per listener or something.) The play by play was good.
Rob Dawg,
If I were making any money in my looser-ass-w-2 job, there would be no need to hate on things. Thanks to mofo govt employment, it ain't there. Did what I could, sorry if I'm not a Rockefeller.
@ below the crowd,
What if they all started a blog?
This is a must see graph, All.
http://www.belowthecrowd.com/photos/ackman.jpg
Hello
You can listen to Steve Serin's Segment
Not the best of qualities, sorry.
Let me know if it doesn't work for you guys.
Stephanie, i got in, made multiple shout outs, but forgot about you. Sorry!
Akubi, you got one!
@Cashback: Was that the stuff Mocha was on tonight ???
Mocha sounded like he/she was into his/her 5th bottle of Ripple before he/she called.
Thanks, Jeffrey.
Honestly, it took me aback since I do nothing other than read and observe and present very little to the table.
anon 7:58. (Nigel)
FUCK OFF.
You obviously don't know jackshit. Anyone that listened tonight heard Steven's voice.
Casey is fucked up. Plain and simple. Are we to believe YOUR entire family are assholes because you are one?
Hi:
I missed tonight's event - my 17 y/old cat died and have been mourning her loss.
I'm opening up the wine and listening to the talkcast interview. Sounds like it was interesting.
Thanks for the link.
Now, do you realize that the Sunshine Band, Serin Family are all on it together.
Steve Serin is a fake - that's a brother talking folks, not Steve Serin.
By the way: I have this invisible bridge to sell of you good people...
Steve Serin is a fake - that's a brother talking folks, not Steve Serin.
((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))
I heard the show, (was on after Steve) and he sounds like Casey, as my sister and I sound identical on the phone. Steve was the real deal.
Let me just say that I know Steve and I have talk to him.
That, folks, is not Steve. I don't know who that person is, but it is *not* Steve S.
Fun otherwise!
@Anon 8:08
Right... cuz Rob Dawg, R-Boy, Duane and Homey were ALL conned, right?
But YOU... oh no.. You so smart! You so smart you have to stay anonymous.
Go jump off your invisible bridge.
Yes, that is a Ruso-Uzbeki-Sacto accent if I ever heard one. No way that was a faker.
Talk to Duane. I just forwarded him Steve's email to me. He'd know if it was a fake or not.
I doubt it though. Why do that? On a sponsored talkcast? It would scare away the sponsors
Seriously, anonymous folks, you gotta get a handle and establish a rep so that folks believe you
of course, you can tell me how you know this by emailing me
caseyserininfo AT yahoo DOT com
Hey Fun otherwise anonopussy, Get a handle and tell us. Dawg is fair and gives the floor to all who opine and have other wise info.
YO YO YO ITS HOMEY TIME,
@anon 8:13pm,
Prove it.
Seeing that you talk to him,post the last 4 digits of Steven Serin's phone number.
I know it. R-Boy, Dawg, and Duane know it. Forget trying to Google it, it's not listed.
You'll have to try harder next time.
Love,
Homey
Homey's back!
Caseypedia update...
Love,
Your biggest fan
OMG! I can't believe I missed all of this! Rob, will you be posting links to transcripts or replays?
Did someone stop Annie from drinking & dialing tonight? :)
Does Jerry Springer still have a show? Seems to me that's the only way this will ever get sorted out.
Jean Valjean,
Thanks for posting the mp3, I just got done listening to it. All I can say is, Casey is beyond help.
When Steve asked him if he cared about the family name, Casey immediately assumed he meant the Haterz™ were digging up dirt on the family & posting it. Any sensible person would take it to mean Casey's actions are ruining the family name.
What a self centered, egomaniacal, sociopathic idiot.
To the troll,
How's the weather in El Ceritto tonight? Don't mess with EN'ers.
I believe all this drama is well orchestrated to keep the blog going.
Expect "divorce" word coming soon. The Divorce saga will be milked to no end.
oh yeah, it's now available to download off talkshoe. If anybody needed any more proof that Casey has no shame, not blocking the show where his own flesh and blood point out what an arse he is should tip the scale.
Kudos Steve, it must suck to have to air your dirty laundry like this but your brother really does need these extreme methods to finally make him see some sense. You did more to bring honour back to the Serin name than your brother will in his lifetime.
Download it, skip the first hour, skip Mocha (idiot), listen to the callers rail into him like Steve, Monkey, Duane, Brian
@bemused and all
I know I'm risking sounding like an SLC realtor here, but you can listen to the Steve-Casey mp3 (no talkshoe, no money for Snowflake)
href=http://webcogito.com/2007/05/25/steve-serin-confronts-casey-serin
I think Nigel is slipping out of our collective consciousness, he's fading away like Marty McFly's brother and sister in back to the future
@Jean - Thanks. Not sure if it was funny or sad.
Is Steve the hot Marine brother who we think should give CS some tuff luv, combat boot style or the
brother who saved him with new car tyres and windows?
Perhaps Anon is right to suspect a ratings troll. How many times have we been trolled already? But I vote that we kick him off the island.
I gather that he somehow got his mother entangled in this fine mess.
Could someone please elaborate on that?
How is his mother involved? In what, specifically?
How did we find this out?
Thanks.
Always tend to question my opinions on things (if that weren't the case, this ridiculous Serin obsession would not have continued for so long), but I'm smelling some stinky fish and I'm not sure where it happens to be coming from.
A huge thanks to Rob Dawg for bringing this forum to us.
This is the most entertaining website around.
SerMom co-signed on his corporate credit. This is a scam that he purchased from a Long Beach outfit. It is a scheme whereby cash is extracted in the name of the shell corporation, and spent by Casey, and will be stuck on Mom's credit report.
FMW,
Thanks for the shoutout. Can't claim credit for that chart, but the full piece is at: We are HERE.
As noted earlier, I'm going to be a bit scarcer around these parts than I've been for the past couple of weeks. Want to enjoy the weekend, not do much hating on anyone, maybe write a piece that might be useful to somebody, though probably not Casey, and chill for a bit. The discussion with the brother has me suddenly feeling that this thing will end very badly, and wondering if we're egging him on as much as he's baiting all of us.
Or maybe I just need a drink. To quote a great American: I never drink unless I'm alone. Or with people.
-btc
Anon @ 8:49:
The corporate credit thingy.
Creditors tend to want the owners of small companies to personally guarantee any loan. Since Casey's credit score is subterrainian, he had to bring his mother in as a guarantor.
Of course he'll default on the loans like on all the others before, leaving his mother holding the bag.
Casey Mother co-signed.
Casey wife co-signed on several federal documents with false information.
Casey sister-in-law allows Cassey to live at their house.
Casey Father allows does nothing for the past 3 years.
All of these people are not as innocent as they think they are.
If I had done 1/100th the shinanagons Casey has done, my mother would have taken me to the back and shot me on the spot.
Like my mother used to say: I brought you into this world and I can take you out. My father supported my mother 100%.
It's all due to the upbringing of Casey by his parents. These parents are worthless.
Sorry, just speaking the truth.
Re: Casey's Mom:
Thanks. But how did we find this information out?
Anon, Declan the C|Net author was told by Casey AND Galina that his mother was the guarantor.
Casey later denied saying it and that he only said "a relative."
Anon, the sins of the father are not visited upon the son, and vice versa. I have seen plenty of parents with a good kid and a bad kid, to be so quick to blame it on the parents. Yes, it is a rare thing to see a family of crooks. Casey is a grown man. It is an interesting theory that you have. You just have very flimsey evidence. Mom could be a wheelchair bound babuska for all we know. They have a decent house, and a son who is a marine. What more do you want?
@ Below the crowd,
Just opened a beer myself. It is Midnight here in Orlando.
Posted the graph at housingPanic too.
That on coming Train is a big one, glad I am ahead of it.
TTFN.
Have a good one.
(:
Casey posted a picture of the Benjamins on the kitchen table.
Three day weekend coming up. How much you wanna bet he takes most of the money to Tahoe, or to Phoenix?
Hey FMW, another Orlando hater! I've been kicking back here in Winter Park all evening. :)
@Lost cause:
We have a similar if not identical situation with my wife's family.
One of my brother in law almost caused my my mother in law to lose her house due to a shinanogon. Most of the family thought it was ok.
In my OWN family, these things were NOT tolerated and quickly stopped. My brother would have been no different, except for the fact that my mother put a stop to many of his schinanogoes early on.
Most parents don't want to put any efforts into rasing their kids, let the baby sitters to that why they go off to work only to find a total stranger 16 years later called your son/daughter.
Seen this too many times...
I think the word you're trying for is "shenanigans".
Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, " Shenanigans."
Mac: Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Farva: You mean Shenanigans?
Mac: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Thorny: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[as they hand the Captain their pistols]
Hey FMW, another Orlando hater! I've been kicking back here in Winter Park all evening. :)
__________________
Kewel.
Nice to see some Florida bubble town brains in the mix here at EN.
Just drove over to the village to pick up my 16 year old son, now I can have a cold one! Thank God I was not drinking whilst jousting with KC. te he.
I am Downtown, well, the new Up Town, across from The Citrus Restaurant.
Small World wide Web.
te he
@Lost cause:
Forgot to say, that the law will eventually do what the mother/father negleted to do.
Notice how Casey is begining to justify his criminal ways more and more. He is so deep into it, nobody except the law will be able to stop him.
I hope the law takes Casey, cute Wife, mother and Father. At least the mother for being an idiot.
@Jeffery
Uhhh.. thanks? ::smirk::
But I don't need a 'shout out'... I got all the shout-out I needed from CHJTS's fantastic prose last Friday.
LOL
I heard this crap. Good grief, this asshole keeps bringing the convo back to himself; he is truly scary and Galina needs to get the FUCK out. He is truly a sick sociopathic motherfucker.
I hope Steve and family do complete an intervention and take the PDA and the laptop away from his lying, manipulative ass.
He is beyond help.
Steph, actually i was thinking about that, i couldnt actually beat a poem. I do play piano as a side job, i might possibly compose a song next time, live on the air!
@Khatie
You are under the Serin delusion too?
Galina Serin has committed fedral Fraud just like her husband.
Galina goes down on Casey weekly - YUK! Nobody wants a chick with that kind of milage... I think I barfed a bit in my mouth just now.
I'm hoping Quentin Tarantino can cast me the role of a short Uma who kinda looks like what's-her-name in Blondie.
The old Debbie Harry of recent middle age, or the old Debbie Harry of Playboy Bunny fame?
Eat me, Lost Cause.
BTW,
I'm referring to the pre-Videodrome days.
Who in their right mind would want to eat Galina after knowing who has been in there, repeatly!
Oh, I threw up a bit yet again in my mouth...
WTF?
anon @ 10:34:
Nig-
Oh hell, I can't say it.
Hope don't mind if I sit this one out.
My words but a whisper — your debt a work-out.
The news makes you feel but it cant make you think.
Your score’s in the gutter — your price in the drink.
So you ride yourselves over the fields and
You make all your Serinesque deals and
Your loan men don’t know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
And the sand-castle values are all swept away in
The tidal destruction
The moral melee.
The seismic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers
The unsuited prey.
But your hummers are worn at the wheels and
Your credit card’s starting to squeal and
Your loan men dont know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
Anon,
You probably don't like oysters either
Friday night's podcast, Split up into 7 parts.
Again, forgive the quality. Eye suck.
Jean; je t'adore. Merci.
ok, I suck at making links.
and it's late.
and I'm drugged.
http://webcogito.com/2007/05/26/casey-serin-v-the-truth/
Thick as a Brick. Boy, that's puttin' a name to it.
Hate to say this, but:
What's with all the fretting with making our own low-fi MP3s and hosting them?
Just download it from TalkShoe -- or have iTunes suck it down.
Sure, Casey gets a cut of the advertising revenue; but how much is that going to net him, really? $1 per 1000 downloads or something tiddly like that? Is working around it really worth the effort?
(Besides, if it's as good as the reviews say, Casey can have the dirty 1/10th penny from my download. Sounds like good value.)
Just finished listening to the talkcast
Steve, you were awesome, and you have nothing to be ashamed of, you did the right thing.
Flying monkey, probably the best antidote to Casey's turnaround questions and manipulations.
Duane, I'm glad you bailed on this piece of crap. Who did you 'out' Nigel? That fuck loves the attention. Chris Record? Another imbecile con artist that needs to be looked into. Like someone said, hey CAsey, what about the trust between you and your lenders, your wife, pretty much anyone you get into contact with.
Dolph, frankly, I don't think I could have controlled myself like you did, Casey is a piece of shit, and you did a good job staying on track with your message.
It's obvious that Casey thinks he is still going to get the magic windfall and put all his problems in a box that he can throw away.
I think Galina is going to divorce this liability. Frankly, Steve would probably make a better husband.
@Jean Valjean
Thanks for breaking it down and for the links.
Duane and Steve were the greatest talks.
This is MOCHA...Proud K-C supporter!!!!
Mannnnnnnnnnnnn...you guys really need to get a life. Don't you have nothing better to do than hate on this poor 24 year old kid that tried to "make things happen" for himself and his family??? So what if he did not want a hum-drum life...this is America...you can do what the FUCK you want.
He took a class for fuck's sake. He was obviously not planning to defraud anyone. He just got a lil over his head...OK, wayyyyyyyyyy over his head. Got caught up with what he thought were "usual industry practices" and he is trying to amend the mess he created for HIMSELF and HIS life. Its just a case of robbing peter to pay paul that you all do in your dull lives...just on a larger scale....but at 24??? The dude got some balls...hell..."blue balls"!!! (lol) Your dumb asses were just supposed to listen and learn. So why do you all have to convene at the club house like a bunch of rejects and rain on his parrade. Dis me all you want...adds to invalidate your comments about K-C...cuz...ur soooooooooooo wrong about me. But I don't give a fuck...and will not try to defend shit about who I am, what I do or how I am...I wont let u live life through me the way you do with K-C!!! I'm old enough to know that you're just a bunch of angry losers...if its not K-C...you will just move on to the next....ummmmmmm "victim". Most of u have failed in real life or hate ur damn W-2 job...hehehehehehehe and escape online to protray these "personas" so u can develop these so called "friends" in ur sorry haterz community. Listen to all your strategic planning and shit!!!!!!! You're a pathetic lot!!!!!!!!!! Actually...DON'T STOP...keep it coming...more money in K-C's pocket...you "keep him on his toes"... . Bunch of dumbasses...he wins anyway...screw you!!!
@Mocha
What the fuck are you smooking?
I want some@ That is some heavy stuff!
"and will not try to defend shit about who I am, what I do or how I am...I wont let u live life through me the way you do with K-C!!! I'm old enough to know that you're just a bunch of angry losers...if its not K-C..."
If you aren't trying to defend yourself, then why post here? You changed your voice to avoid lenders? "I owe so many people..er ummm I mean other people owe so much money", "I get called many many times a day, I cahnged my accent so many times..I mean this is what other people do"
Okaaaay..another leech to society. Oh and by the way Mocha...you should try alcoholics anonymous sometime. With supporters like you who needs enemies. you love him so much..marry him..you know he's going to single soon right? Now, go pick up your welfare check and go get some more booze. If you drink less than a bottle a day..it may just last thru the weekend.
I heard this crap. Good grief, this asshole keeps bringing the convo back to himself; he is truly scary and Galina needs to get the FUCK out. He is truly a sick sociopathic motherfucker.
I've been reading here for a while, first time commenting. I just wanted to comment on this -- I swear, if I didn't know better, I would think Casey was my creepy ex.
Little things that are coming out in his behaviors, even his writing style, are so similar. I really do worry for Galina, especially the contract where she made him promise to stop manipulating her.
My story didn't end so well, but at least I am not married to him and $2m in debt...
Priceless. Absolutely priceless. This is what I get for hanging out with some friends and watching the Pirates movie, then grabbing some pizza and beer.
R-Boy, Dawg, Duane, Steve - Thanks for giving fliptard massive kicks to the head.
All the other haterz call-ins - Great work.
Now it's time for me to hear the interesting parts of the broadcast.
Caseypedia has a transcript of the Casey-Steve encounter here.
Mocha:
Put the crack pipe down. First off, give it a little time, because after Casey's wife dumps him, you can take your insane ass to Sacremento and shack up with him in his car. He seems to be so totally your type.
@Mocha
"and will not try to defend shit about who I am, what I do or how I am...I wont let u live life through me the way you do with K-C!!! I'm old enough to know that you're just a bunch of angry losers...if its not K-C..."
Newsflash: Nobody cares.
Forgive me for using this language. I don't use this word... ever. But for some reason, as I read MOCHA's words... all I could think was "stupid cunt".
yours,
tm
@Mocha
What are you? Twelve? Your incoherent, immature blurb makes you sound like a pre-teen. Shouldn't you be at soccer practice or something?
Folks, please realize that MOCHA is Galina Serin.
The KC and Sunshine band are all on this together.
Steve Serin is the only honest or semi-honest in that pack.
I say semi-honest because he should have protected his mother from having Casey setup the corporation together.
Slimey, skanky, cock-sucking, filthy, fucking, CUNT.
There.
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