Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Wednesday, July 04, 2007
The Californication of Science
Weird Science indeed. People have been wondering when Gov Swartzenegger's incompatible worlds of infrstructure, spending and environment would collide. When Worlds Collide, another sci-fi reference. In that story not everything or everyone could be saved. So who has Arnold thrown under the bus? His CARB appointee Dr. Robert Sawyer, chairman of the California Air Resources Board. The CARB’s longtime executive director, Catherine Witherspoon, resigned in protest.
The good new from this bloodbath? They’re not going quietly into that good night. [sci-fi ref: Independence Day]
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murst
First and Murst Loozerz!!!!!!
Thurst?
That anon murst was me. I didn't want to take the time to log in.
OK I registered.
BREAKING NEWS!! I found a piece of the script from the Casey Serin Movie. Here's a piece:
FADE IN:
A DARK BASEMENT SET UP LIKE A PRISON, SOMEWHERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
DUANE and MARK walk in to room, CASEY is crying in the corner of his cell.
DUANE: We are sorry we have to do this to you CASEY. We only wanted what was best for you.
MARK: Yeah, I thought my legal shenanigans would be enough to put you in jail, but they failed.
CASEY (sniveling): I don’t know why you guys hate me so. I thought it was all good.
DUANE: The government wouldn’t put you in prison, so we had to do it.
In walks SHARK (CHJTS, THE TOSSED SALAD MAN).
SHARK: CASEY, what jelly do you want for your breakfast this morning, heh heh? Grape or Mixed fruit, heh, um, heh heh?
CASEY: No, please, no.
MARK: I think he likes orange marmalade, give him the marmalade.
ROB over the intercom:
ROB: Sorry to interrupt the fun guys, hey DUANE, GALINA is on the phone and wants to know what you want for dinner tonight. She asked if you want fish sticks or Hot Pockets.
DUANE: God Dammit!, how many times do I have to tell her I like freaking pancakes!
Dawg -
care to decrypt that for those of us who aren't Calicentric?
Nice memory of Kelly there in Weird Science - thanks!
No Fair Sprezz. MOM!
:::Pouts off to her room:::.
Dawg -
care to decrypt that for those of us who aren't Calicentric?
Okay, Da Governator has -said- three things of late. Restore infrastructure, fiscal responsibility and green initiatives. IMO he's absolutely failed on all three and headed down from there but that is just my considered political opinion. He fired the Chair of the California Air Resources Board (CARB) because Dr. Sawyer wouldn't wreck the economy by pushing through new diesel emissions requirements on non-roads equipment.
"I was fired, I did not resign…. The entire issue is the independence of the board, and that's why I got fired," Sawyer said in a telephone interview with The Times. He said that though the 11-member board is appointed by and serves at the pleasure of the governor, "there's also an incredible tradition of independence. I have board members going all the way back to [Gov. Pete] Wilson's time, and they tell me they have never seen such a level of interference as is occurring at this time, and that's what this is all about."[from an la times article]
The fiscal irresponsibility has already been discussed and we still need to talk about the botched solar roofs rebate plan.
OK Mark,
I withdraw may disparaging comments. You da Man, Mark. Please don't sue me for "Liable". You see I never knew someone could go to jail when they are sued for "Liable", but now after reading your comments on EN I am really scared. I don't wanna go to jail. Please forgive me. I have a wheatgrass juice addiction like Casey. Casey got me addicted to it when I hooked up with him in Salt Lake. I promise to get treatment for my wheatgrass addiction so I can be reformed and be a fully respected member of the haterz community.
it looks like the new chairman (person?) nichols has some strong environmental bona fides but it certainly erodes confidence to find out a staffer in the governor's office has been helping weaken our standards. anyone who breathes the murky air of the sf valley every day doesn't take aq lightly.
Ok Mark,
I apologize also. All characters and events in the movie I found, even those based on real people -- are entirely fictional. Due to the content in the movie script, it should not be read by anyone.
Rob,
That is one fine piece of USDA approved meat you have there in that picture.
Kelly LeBrock.....
She has much in common with StephanieJ.
Kelly LeBrock had a starter Husband (steven seagal)
StephanieJ has a starter Husband.
They will both swoon over me one day.
I want them both, either individually or at the same time.
Neither of them know the proper procedure for filing restraining orders (DONT TALK TO MARK) against psychologically unbalanced podcast hosts. This is a ++ win-win.
Man, it sounds like a war zone here in Seattle. The Fourth is in full effect! I just got back from Boom City with some fun toys. Everyone be safe!
Alcohol Swabbie @ 11:59 AM:
” I withdraw may disparaging comments. … Please forgive me..”
Bless you, go in peace, all is forgiven. :)
@ Bubba
Actually, I rather liked your depiction of me!
~Mark
Many a teenage spankfest did I enjoy with Kelley Lebrock. Who was the chick in Ferris Buellers Day Off? Not the sister but his girlfriend. I about broke my wrist to that, lol.
UNGH!
Mia Sara, that's right..OMFG!
@Tony
be safe
At 11:36 AM, LossMitPro said...
Anon @ 10:55 AM:
”I'll be impressed if this case makes it all the way through without sanctions being issued or getting dismissed.”
Not meaning to come of snarky, but... My action isn’t submitted to impress you or anyone else. And not to be disagreeable I have real, honest to goodness, grievances with the parties. Nothing is made up, fabricated or based on things I can’t support.
Moreover, the pleadings are well within Prima Facie requirements (in my opinion and based on legal treatises), meaning it will withstand Demurrer without leave to amend (which is what you’re suggesting by an immediate dismissal).
Lastly SANCTIONS aren’t likely, in the far far extreme.
~Mark
Mark, you are really making the trollz pop a blood vessel in their heads. I would expect them to start attacking you more in the coming weeks. Marty's and caseys super secret power team are going to working overtime attacking you since you FILED against Casey and they dont like it.
At 12:36 PM, Tony Soprano said...
Many a teenage spankfest did I enjoy with Kelley Lebrock. Who was the chick in Ferris Buellers Day Off? Not the sister but his girlfriend. I about broke my wrist to that, lol.
UNGH!
LOLOLOLOLOL...this made me spit water on my computer screen....now that is some funny shit.
TS: "Doc My wrist it hurts" TS says as he sets a bag of cheetos down next to him.
Doc "Why is your scrotum orange?"
TS "I dont know doc, but I think I have whiplash too"
aaack!!!
Hey, LossMitPunk -
Congratulations on filing your joke lawsuit. However, you failed to directly address the (stunningly articulate) poster in the last thread ... specifically:
"You were willing to HELP Casey knowing full well that he had lied mulitple times on 8 loans across 4 states. You knew that he had received illegal cash back on multiple loans and you were also aware of the complete scam of a letter that was made available from Ramit where he was seeking investors at 24% return using homes he knew were in the process of being foreclosed as collateral. Yet YOU went out of your way to contact and HELP this criminal."
YOU sought HIM out, Mark - he didn't come looking for YOU. You expect people to think you're a legitimate businessman when you go out of your way to get involved with an admitted criminal ... then, turn on your so-called "client" and file a lawsuit against him using information he provided to you in confidence - because YOU offerd to help him?
Casey may be an ass ... but you're a total assclown!
thptttt!!!!
S_t_C
PS - Oh, and don't try to sue me. You'd find that .... um.... problematic. Trust me on this one.
Ahnold and the politicians have fucked CA up so bad, it will never recover. Mexico has already taken it back and didn't fire too many shots. No way can you have Financial Responsibility, Clean Air, and a booming economy. Unless they undo Prop 13, they are screwed. Trouble is, Prob 13 in the Nuclear Bomb potato. The citizens would revolt if it was ever overturned and they had to pay property taxes at market rate. Plus the simple fact the the CA DOJ can not tell what an illegal AR-15 is and a legal AR-15 is in tbe State is a joke.
I saw that about the chick staring down a mortar tube. Darwin always wins! WTF did she think was gonna happen?
Ahhh yes, Mia Sara as Sloane Peterson. Then her awakening sexuality in Legend opposite Tom Cruise and Tim Curry. Excellent stuff.
Well, even if nothing entertaining happens to Serin for a few days, I can always get a kick out of the opiate-fueled posts by CHJTS.
Orange scrotum? Them there must be some great wacky pills...
I'll never forget the first time I saw her in that movie. Man o man....That and the first time I saw an Andrew Blake film:)
Cheetos, ROTFLMAO!
@Ogg The Caveman
You sold your home ?
2 Ha is about 5 acres.
ENOUGH!
Okay, we are gonna put a bunch of slips of paper in a hat, with our names on them. Then we all all take one, and sue that person.
Okay?
Jeez, can't have a little fun around here without everyone throwin' lawsuits around.
Do not taunt Happy Fun Koi
I posted this at IAFF in response to Casey blaming the posters for not advising the poor emailer how to get out of foreclosure.
Idiot kid...blame everybody but yourself. Further proof he has no business giving advice:
I am not hating on this woman, YOU ARE. YOU are using her story to get rich quick. You won't listen to our advice because we are all a bunch of "haterz" (your words) yet you want our advice to help somebody else?
Why is it that our advice is great for some poor soul who needs REAL help (not help from a failure like you) yet you wouldn't take any of our advice in the beginning?
You are a clueless buffoon.
Prove us wrong.
Even the hater haterz have to admit that when he talked about us posting "hate" and not helping that was pretty low. He used this email to elicit sympathy and he got some predictable responses. He has no clue how to help anybody let alone himself.
Idiot. I hope that emailer doesn't do anything drastic. I hold him responsible for posting the email and not giving advice to the tune of "go see a lawyer, PLEASE". He wants to be a big shot problem is he will never be one.
Bubba,
It's jelly or syrup. And, the punchline is "I prefer syrup."
I stopped making prison jokes when the chance of Casey going to prison became too real.
Although, I hope Bob Dawg finds for any future "Casey is arrested" thread a still-frame from the end of "Mallrats", where Ben Afflack's character is in prison, and his cellmate (with L-O-V-E tattooed on his hand) "affectionately" places his hand over Ben's hand.
or, maybe Bubba, you could find it for Bob Dawg.
When Mia Sara was younger, my oh my was she hot. I saw her recently, I can say she's still attractive but she looks like time has taken a serious toll on her.
I didn't know a Prius could go 100mph if you threw it off a cliff?
http://tinyurl.com/24j3yd
Sputnik_the_Cat @ 12:45 PM:
” aaack!!! … Oh, and don't try to sue me. You'd find that .... um.... problematic. Trust me on this one.”
Yeah I’ve heard not much liquidation market for FUR BALLS. Enjoy the holiday. :)
~Mark
LossMitPunk,
That's all you got to say??? Your silence speaks volumes...
S_t_C
PS - What holiday?
MY RESPONSES ARE IN ALL CAPS
At 12:45 PM, Sputnik_the_Cat said...
aaack!!!
Hey, LossMitPunk -
THATS MR. LOSSMITPUNK TO YOU BITCH.
Congratulations on filing your joke lawsuit. However, you failed to directly address the (stunningly articulate) poster in the last thread ... specifically:
SO THE SUPPORTERZ WENT FROM SAYING YOU WONT FILE AND THAT MARK IS A LIAR TO NOW A JOKE LAWSUIT....WOW PICK A FUCKING LANE OLD LADY AND STAY IN IT.
"You were willing to HELP Casey knowing full well that he had lied mulitple times on 8 loans across 4 states. You knew that he had received illegal cash back on multiple loans
HIS JOB IS TO HELP PEOPLE NEGOTIATE WITH LENDERS...DO I HAVE TO BEAT THIS INTO YOUR DAMN HEADS. LET ME USE LITTLE WORDS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND. HIS(THAT IS MARK) JOB (THAT MEANS EMPLOYMENT) IS TO NEGOTIATE (COME TO A CONCLUSION AND BRIDGE A GAP BETWEEN TO PARTIES) WITH LENDERS (PEOPLE THAT GIVE MONEY THAT HAS TO BE REPAID).
and you were also aware of the complete scam of a letter that was made available from Ramit where he was seeking investors at 24% return using homes he knew were in the process of being foreclosed as collateral.
I DO NOT EVER REMEMBER SEEING ANYWHERE AROUND THAT TIME THAT HE KNEW OF THE SCAM EMAIL THAT WENT OUT.
Yet YOU went out of your way to contact and HELP this criminal."
HE WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO HELP SOMEONE THAT WAS IN TROUBLE THAT DID NOT KNOW HOW TO HELP HIMSELF. AND IN RETURN GOT THROWN UNDER THE BUS BECAUSE THAT SCAM ARTIST DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT HIMSELF.
YOU sought HIM out, Mark - he didn't come looking for YOU.
IS THIS THE BEST YOU GOT...ARE YOU MAD THAT CASEY IS GOING TO BE STOPPED.
You expect people to think you're a legitimate businessman when you go out of your way to get involved with an admitted criminal ...
OBVIOUSLY HE IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESSMAS HENCE THE CORPORATION HE CONTROLS AND OWNS. EVEN IF HIS ENTIRE NET WORTH WAS JUST ENOUGH TO BARELY COVER HIS GAS EXPENSE TO SACRAMENTO TO FILE HIS SUIT AGAINST CASEY.....MEANS HE IS A BUSINESSMAN HEADS AND SHOULDERS ABOVE CASEY. THINK ABOUT IT 50 BUCKS FOR GAS= INFINITE GREATER WEALTH THAN CASEY.
then, turn on your so-called "client" and file a lawsuit against him using information he provided to you in confidence - because YOU offerd to help him?
HIS CLIENT TURNED ON HIM AND MADE HIM LOOK LIKE AN ASS WHEN HE PULLED FAVORS FROM THE HIGHER UPS AT COUNTRYWIDE..PEOPLE THAT NORMAL BUSINESS PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO. BUT MARK DID. THAT MAKES HIM A DAMN GOOD BUSINESSMAN THAT HE USES HIS CONTACTS TO BENEFIT HIS CLIENTS. WHEN CASEY BRANG THE BLOG BACK UP, MARK LOST ALLOT OF CREDIBILITY WITH THE LENDERS AND THAT CAUSES TRACKABLE AND IRREPARABLE HARM TO HIS REPUTATION.
Casey may be an ass ... but you're a total assclown!
OH PLEASE GO CHOKE ON A HAIRBALL
thptttt!!!!
S_t_C
PS - Oh, and don't try to sue me. You'd find that .... um.... problematic. Trust me on this one.
FORGET SUING YOU...I WANT TO USE YOU FOR A NEW INVENTION..THE CATAPULT.
All you supporterz and trollz can kiss my ass....but then again I am just an "internet tough guy", and hide behind my keyboard. We should get together over a jamba juice and talk it out like civilized adults...please let me know the time and what jamba juice in portland you would like to meet at.
When Mia Sara was younger, my oh my was she hot. I saw her recently, I can say she's still attractive but she looks like time has taken a serious toll on her.
Take a peek at Kelly LeBrock....my eyes! Although, she had hit the diet scene and has made serious improvement.
Sputnik_the_Cat @ 12:58 PM:
”Your silence speaks volumes.”
As does your verbosity.
~Mark
CHJTS,
I asked LossMitPunk - not you. Can he not speak for himself?
I think it's time for your next dose of medication...
thpptt!!!
S_t_C
Tony, CA is trully screwed but the implosion isn't going to stop at the border, State or international. What if France imploded like California may do? IMO Prop 13 is the only thing holding the place together. Without it every established business that absolutely does not need to be here would run, mean run for the exits. Personally I'd list for 80% of value, 75% for a 30 day closing and join them. The thing also is that the State has too much money even with Prop 13. Then they overspend that and do not even spend on the things that are important.
Unless you want 5 million displaced California Equity Locusts descending on the nice places in the rest of the country you better hope we can get back to two (or more) party politics.
Well I've got some big news. Unlike super troll Rob I'm going to release it now. The robertcotesux blog is coming back!!!! We've got some new sponsors and some serious stuff on ol Rob. Stay tuned the blog should be up by tomorrow full of info. It also contains a full archive of the old blog. With the exception of Robs credit report and personal info. Even the supporters don't want to punish the fat drunk that much :)
Sputnik_the_Cat @ 1:02 PM:
” Can he not speak for himself?.”
Actually, I’ve taken a dose of silence today and it’s starting to kick in... Better go lay down.
~Mark
(Slithering away, letting dogs chase the CAT!)
If we could only find the dipshit that's behind the RobertCoteSux blog ... and SUE him!
Now THAT I'd support!!
thppttt!!
S_t_C
Sue away dipshit!!!! hahahahahahahaha
I hear the Californicators have stopped flipping houses. Now they file frivolous lawsuits instead. If you tried that crap in my state they would hang you up by your scrotum.
The RCS site was bullshit and pure garbage. Start a LMPS site, I would support that.
"HIS CLIENT TURNED ON HIM AND MADE HIM LOOK LIKE AN ASS WHEN HE PULLED FAVORS FROM THE HIGHER UPS AT COUNTRYWIDE.."
aack!! Sounds like an error in judgement on Mark's part. If you're gonna party with clowns, you're likely to get a pie in the face....
S_t_C
CHJTS:
I certainly am not a troll nor am I popping a blood vessel. I have been against Casey and his actions since November. I have legitimate opinion concerning Mark and his actions.
All along I have looked at those who have decided to partner with Casey as suspicious. How can I not. If people have the balls to admit that they were somewhat blinded by the opportunity to partner up with Casey for the possible money that could be made by those involved, then I could respect them for having a universal weakness and admitting that. At times everybody sees an opportunity and doesn't always think the full ramifications through. It happens. It is not criminal, it is a weakness that every one of us falls prey too.
What I don't buy is the I was only try to help, I do not want to take any responsibility for the ways in which I enabled Casey and his continued poor choices, and how my enabling has hurt those around Casey as well.
There is one important thing that I have learned in life. Don't ever choose or put stock in your partners/associates, simply because you share in disliking or are fighting with the same person. It is very blinding.
Not a troll,I am offering an opinion that is against the grain and doing so with a screename.
"there's also an incredible tradition of independence. I have board members going all the way back to [Gov. Pete] Wilson's time, and they tell me they have never seen such a level of interference as is occurring at this time, and that's what this is all about."
I admit I don't have many details but I always get suspicious when appointed groups get upset after whomever appoints them starts interfering. Hmmm.
Have they done such a fine job up to now after all these years that
no one should question their autonomy?
aack!!
Just fine-tuning my new (official) identity....
Fly: Amen brother.
thpptt!!
S_t_C
Banning anonymous posters? Was this the 'fireworks' expected by the 4th of July?
In the immortal words of Sputnik the Cat
thpptt!!
Demantoid @ 3:30 PM:
”Banning anonymous posters? Was this the 'fireworks' expected by the 4th of July?”
Just one man’s observation, but... The July 4 week hasn’t finished yet, we’re only half way through. I don’t recall anyone ever suggesting that “fireworks” had to necessarily ignite on the fourth, being that celebrations are ongoing throughout the week.
~Mark
@LMP
perhaps I misunderstood, I could of sworn he said by the 4th..
Your monetary demands?
(Amount demanded does not exceed
$10,000, and is less than $25,000.)
Demantoid @ 5:01 PM:
”Your monetary demands?”
What? You get pissy with me most all day, and then expect me to address your questions with legit answers? Order a copy of the pleadings ($.50 a page), find out for yourself (Jag Off).
~Mark
CHJTS:
Did I miss something? WHO THE F--- IS SAYING CASEY'S LETTER TO RAMIT IS A SCAM?
How is it a scam when Casey has ADMITTED sending him that letter? Why would Ramit make that up?
Who the hell is saying the smoking gun of all things Casey is a scam? I go away for a couple of days and I read this nonsense?
(not mad at you but whoever is saying it's a scam).
Fuck the person saying it's a scam. You have no proof to back that up. We do.
End of point and rant.
Rob Dawg:
They’re not going quietly into that good night. [sci-fi ref: Independence Day]
Independence Day is quoting Dylan Thomas, Welsh poet of the mid 20th C. But you knew that.
Beth
Independence Day is quoting Dylan Thomas, Welsh poet of the mid 20th C. But you knew that.
Yes but pursuiant to the Casey v Sci-Fi settlement of 2006 I am required to mention at least one sci-fi tie in and at least 0.8 statesmen quotes per 10 casey snarks and or reveals. It is, after all, the road less travelled.
Imagine that?
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