Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Thursday, July 12, 2007
The End Is Near
Hoping that crow is to your liking. As this chapter draws to a close I hope we can wrap up any loose endz. Fraudcast then haterzcast and running commentary here. Tomorrow solar tax credit proposals and why the exurbs will benefit most.
Casey sells the domain for $20,000.00, I thought he said he could get over $100,000.00 for it last month. Not that I believed him then but hey looks like there is something out there dumber then Casey. Must be an actual Foreclosure Assistance outfit that is just going to re-direct you to its site. The traffic will drop off once Casey is no longer the story.
If Casey really is under an investigation by the FBI and told him that we should know about it in few days when they slap the kuffs on him. The person under investigation is always the last to know to prevent them from hiding evidence or changing thier activities. If they told him then they either have all they need.
Properly structured IAFF could command a high price. yes, things are much, much better for Casey. Whatever he is facing in the near future the comments were "you did what?" and have now become "you sure screwed the pooch but it looks like at the and you started trying to make things right." The difference between time and probation? I have no clue but he's got more in the plus column today than he did on Monday.
Now that Casey is telling the truth it is reasonable to take his word that he thinks it selling the blog is the best way to save his personal relationships.
Someone asked KC how the FBI first contacted him, and he said an agent phoned him. The caller then asked if the agent left a name and callback number for verification. KC said something like, yes, the agent left a name and info, but he didn't say whether he called back to verify it. He just said he believed it was legit.
PS KC said the agent phoned him just to tell him that they (the FBI) had "everything they needed," that they had the contents of the blog and all KC's mortgage documents. Apparently that was the only reason the agent called because that's all KC said. No follow up. I just think this is weird. From my experience the FBI will usually a) try to meet the subject in person and b) ASK questions, not provide information. All they'll usually tell a subject is that there is an investigation ongoing. Why would they provide him with knowledge of what they know?
Marty has yet to understand HE IS THE LAST BAGHOLDER.
Duane bought the domain and has plans to help people.
LMP gets a itty bitty bit of cash and gets a few karma points (he may make a fortune on Casey's story after Casey gets Bongo-Bongoed to death in prison).
Rob moves onto a better blog (what it was with more traffic).
Galina gets some debt payed down and hopefully a divorce (she could insure Casey before he gets Bongo-Bongoeded to death).
I just read a few posts. did mark get casey's story rights? duane bought the blog? helping galina, etc. casey lost it all! doh! well i guess that's the reason for the w-2 looser job search.
If all of this is true and casey truly follows through on getting a real job and starts making amends....I will finally have a little respect for him and possibly be a supporter.
Benoit, Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought Casey said the judge was aware of an FBI investigation. Did I misread? I know for sure he brought up FBI and it was in context of the hearing.
As much as I hate that hippie... I hope Galinka takes him back. Perfect ending for the movie. Either that or MARK SMASH! would also be a good ending.
When Casey says "Assign the book rights," what does me mean? Assign them to whom? Mark? Would that mean Mark and Marty would be partners? I smell a buddy comedy...
So I guess now this blog is just going to be Rob bitching about Mexicans?
Duane/LossMitt, what are the odds of us setting up a nonprofit. The entire account will sit for one year and accumulate. If Casey blogs at all in that first year, the money goes to habitat. If he stays true, he gets 1/3rd of the money. The same for the second and third. The money would only go to a pre-approved lender/creditor and handeled by a trustee.
Benoit, Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought Casey said the judge was aware of an FBI investigation on his blog. Did I misread? I know for sure he brought up FBI and it was in context of the hearing.
Duane, LMP: I REALLY would like to know your answer to the following question:
Do either of you think that Galina should consider taking Casey back? In your personal opinion. You've expressed opinions (I believe) on the matter before.
If you can address this on the cast, I think a lot of people would like to know.
When someone gets a chance, can I get back on the talkcast? I have some questions to ask before it's over, and I'm afraid nobody is going to ask Casey anything.
I may take heat for this, but is anyone just not buying Casey's "turn-around" which has taken place in a matter of 3 days or so...?
Granted, I don't know exactly what happened with regards to the court, the FBI, whatever, so he may essentially be forced to act contrite. But this smacks of sociopathic behavior, telling people what they want to hear. I just don't buy Casey doing a complete 180 and "seeing the light" in a matter of 72 hours, that's all...
Annie, I agreed with the sentiments you expressed about the individuals on the line. But there really wasn't enough about your breasts. Maybe the next fraudcast should be in video.
Duane, if I may proffer a friendly suggestion... you know how people rag Casey a lot because he keeps using the same phrases over and over, e.g. "It's all good" and "Sweet". Well.... "It is what it is". 'Nuff said.
Best wishes,
NR
PS Now that Marty may be a haterz, can Casey be far behind?
I ain't buying into this luvfest one bit. He is shutting down IAFF, but he will pop up elsewhere, and quickly. He is addicted to the limelight, and will continue to blab until the indictment.
It's good that Galena's debts will be paid down, though.
I don't buy it. I believe the turn around is not from his decision to save his marriage, I believe it's from the fear of McMaster, FBI, and all else that's coming. How many times have I hear the "I'm a changed man" song???
Where is Casey staying? Has he talked to his wife? Exactly when did he talk to the FBI agent? How does he know the FBI agent wasn't a troll? Whose car is he borrowing (it's a gold Toyota pickup)?
@Benoit™ I may take heat for this, but is anyone just not buying Casey's "turn-around" which has taken place in a matter of 3 days or so...? *** No hate from me...I think he's totally full of shit. I'm still processing it all, but this is not "him seeing the light". HE THINKS HE CAN STILL GET GALINA BACK. If nothing else, that's why he's doing it. (and there's a lot of "else" too, I'm sure).
God, I hope he's wrong about Galina.
(There are also all sorts of angles with the FBI that I'm not even going to speculate about).
Casey isn't hiding behind his IAFF persona. Did everyone notice? Even the catchphrases are absent. As long as he doesn't slip and fall back into "God bless" and all that there's a chance.
Casey's got to walk that lonesome valley--he's got to go out and EARN the trust before anyone, especially Galina, will believe him again. Unfortunately, I think he will have to go to jail first.
Duane and Mark are trying to cure someone who is pathological. I'm not sure I understand why. Leave the psychology to the experts. There can be as much collateral damage done in trying to help as in standing aside.
Casey is starting waffle. You can see the little wheels turning as he considers half truths. Now Duane is talking and putting Casey back on the tracks.
What really bugs me about Casey's about-face is how he stresses that he is trying to do the right thing in order to win his wife back. 1) It is unlikely to be as straightforward a process as he seems to imagine, 2) He seems to have absolutely no concept of doing the right thing because it is the right thing. One caller (forgive me, I forget whom) pointed out that he should be doing this for himself, not for Galina. But I don't think he's actually grasped this concept at all.
Hmm... this is the first fraudcast I've listened to and it'll probably be the last of its kind.
I genuinely don't want to talk to Casey himself and hear his spin. If other callers are on hold, just mention that a decent number of people aren't buying this "seeing the light" deal and that it smacks of telling people what they want to hear.
FWIW, the Galina commenting here is the same Blogger profile as previously requested removal of a few names from CaseyPedia -- and was verified genuine by Duane.
what do you guys think of this, sounds like caseyisms to me, im amazed casey hasnt latched on to those "there is no law behind the irs" types... just a juicy excerpt
Don't believe banks create the money they lend? Neither did the jury in a landmark Minnesota case, until they heard the evidence. First National Bank of Montgomery vs. Daly (1969) was a courtroom drama worthy of a movie script.3 Defendant Jerome Daly opposed the bank's foreclosure on his $14,000 home mortgage loan on the ground that there was no consideration for the loan. "Consideration" ("the thing exchanged") is an essential element of a contract. Daly, an attorney representing himself, argued that the bank had put up no real money for his loan. The courtroom proceedings were recorded by Associate Justice Bill Drexler, whose chief role, he said, was to keep order in a highly charged courtroom where the attorneys were threatening a fist fight. Drexler hadn't given much credence to the theory of the defense, until Mr. Morgan, the bank's president, took the stand. To everyone's surprise, Morgan admitted that the bank routinely created money "out of thin air" for its loans, and that this was standard banking practice. "It sounds like fraud to me," intoned Presiding Justice Martin Mahoney amid nods from the jurors. In his court memorandum, Justice Mahoney stated:
Plaintiff admitted that it, in combination with the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, . . . did create the entire $14,000.00 in money and credit upon its own books by bookkeeping entry. That this was the consideration used to support the Note dated May 8, 1964 and the Mortgage of the same date. The money and credit first came into existence when they created it. Mr. Morgan admitted that no United States Law or Statute existed which gave him the right to do this. A lawful consideration must exist and be tendered to support the Note. The court rejected the bank's claim for foreclosure, and the defendant kept his house. To Daly, the implications were enormous. If bankers were indeed extending credit without consideration – without backing their loans with money they actually had in their vaults and were entitled to lend – a decision declaring their loans void could topple the power base of the world. He wrote in a local news article:
This decision, which is legally sound, has the effect of declaring all private mortgages on real and personal property, and all U.S. and State bonds held by the Federal Reserve, National and State banks to be null and void. This amounts to an emancipation of this Nation from personal, national and state debt purportedly owed to this banking system. Every American owes it to himself . . . to study this decision very carefully . . . for upon it hangs the question of freedom or slavery.
This dude talking about Casey getting a job seafaring is making too much sense.
Casey, able-bodied seamen are starting at $60k in the Gulf of Mexico right now. If you can wash dishes and make scrambled eggs, you can make good money even if you have no education.
duane's manipulative? who is this mrs. robinson again? i think MARK is manipulative, but not duane. that's my take. SHE JUST WANTS SOME YOUNG CASEY DICK.
Fort, If there's any interest in revisiting fiat currnecy discussion I'll put up a post tomorrow. I do know Casey does have some of the all money is mine all debts are bogus.
I don't buy it. I believe the turn around is not from his decision to save his marriage, I believe it's from the fear of McMaster, FBI, and all else that's coming. How many times have I hear the "I'm a changed man" song???
I am utterly stoked that you are this intelligent, Galina. I wish you nothing but the best in extricating yourself from the soulless void that is Casey Serin and getting on with your life.
Thanks for the entertainment and creating the forum to bring the haterz together, forge friendships, and take action.
It appears that LossMitt and Duane have done some good things over the past few weeks that will ultimately benefit someone who, eight months ago, had been a total stranger.
There are many people who have had good intentions over these past few months - T (Nacho), Steph, Shark, MSingh, you.... So many names I can't keep track.
Of course, as you all know, my concern is for the safety and well being of Galina who was treated poorly and with great disrespect. I hope Casey understands the trust which is an elemental foundation for any relationship has been broken. A few big actions over the course of a week is just a very very small baby step.... but it does not repair the damage.
And yeah, I know, I was not my hater self tonight, however, it was not appropriate. No reason to kick the guy....
I want to echo everyone else who is telling you to "stay strong" and continue on the path you have started - to get away from Casey and get on with your life... you have so much of it in front of you. I don't know you, and I respect whatever beliefs you hold about your marriage vows. But... he is not going to change where it comes to you.
Stay strong. Lean on your family, it sounds like they are there for you. GET OUT of your marriage.
I say this with sincere concern for your well-being, and for no other reason.
Galina....don't buy the "i'm sorry, i'm changed" bullcrap. This is his biggest con to date. Stay strong..move on..build yourself a life, you can do it.
I think Casey believes Casey. I'm sure he "intends" to do the right thing and he does have lots of new constraints but come Aug 4th and no blog, no money, no attention... Casey, we'll leave a light on here at EN so you can at least put up some replies.
It starts with ditching 'it's all good boi' and being responsible for yourself.
You benefited from his stealing, now comes the ugly time when adults are held responsible.
Casey is a user and a theif. Your life is hammered shit for years and years because YOU MARRIED HIM and watched while he flushed BOTH your lives down the toilet.
Trusting him now means even more years of hammered shit.
Good god. The way he "creatively heard" the question from "save your marriage" and interpreted it as a suggestion to "see a marriage counselor" was simply mind-blowing. These callers need to stop being so effing polite about everything.
I think the caller was trying not to be mean, but to tell Casey to go see a "counselor" or even a pychiatrist. Not to be mean, but because he is SERIOUSLY DISTURBED.
the problem with marraige counseling is it is based on the assumption that both parties and sound psychologically.
That obviously isn't the case regarding Casey.
Doomed to failure before it starts unless Casey (and probably Galina since she put up with him for this long) undergo intensive therapy and self realization FIRST.
Dear Armchair Shrink It was on but they decided to end it with some noises about resuming after the Fraudcast.. I think that was it, but I was busy doing something else when I tuned in to the end of what they were talking about.
sorry for the technical question. is the deal done? or will the deal be done on august 3rd? big difference to me. hate to sound skeptical but if this deal is not done with money and blog having traded hands, seems like there still a possiblity this deal could blow up.
LMP is not about saving KC but trolling him back. KC got fucked over (not that him being fucked over is so bad) but LMP went after KC coz of his defamation of his supposed good name - not KC's debt etc. Why wouldn't he now - having tasted some success with his bullying at last - stop at one? At least Aspeth will have the balls to fight him properly instead of rolling over like KC did. Mark V - you are scum.
Duane just confirmed on the after hours fraudcast (11:55 PM) that the FBI thing is real, not a troll, and that "there are other 3-letter governmental organizations interested in him".
Duane sez he told Casey that a stint in prison would be good for him.
Is this effort to save galina to perhaps make up for the evil you do to innocent people worldwide by legally stealing the equity in their homes when they are at their lowest point and are desperate to sell to avoid foreclosure? Just to clarify... It was a company like yours that sold many of these homes afterwards to people like Casey right?
Duane just confirmed on the after hours fraudcast (11:55 PM) that the FBI thing is real, not a troll, and that "there are other 3-letter governmental organizations interested in him".
More than likely, the IRS and the FTC. i.e. tax evasion (or collusion to commit tax fraud) and the FTC will be investigating the Google click fraud.
A real estate agent is offering a house in exchange for a 4-5% fee HBN is taking all the equity of a desperate seller trying to avoid foreclosure. In fact if the equity is not high enough they have no interest. No equity no interest in helping you for housebuyersnetwork.
you know, CHIEF 100 is completely legit, and very fair, asking questions I HAVE MYSELF. and watching key players smear him is FUCKING ANNOYING. the guy brings THE HARD QUESTIONS with SINCERE MOTIVES. so WHAT THE FUCK. alas, we can't ask hard questions, huh! it's all about the PLAYAH HATERZ. what the fuck ever. CHIEF 100 IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.
So if a person has $10k equity on a $300K house, they get a better deal selling via duane than a realtor. So how is Duane taking more advantage than a realtor?
If someone put down only 10 thousand on a loan for 300k then they are rich and have magnificiant credit and wont ever need house buyers network.
the fact of the matter is that often people have a lot more than 10k in equity simply from the downpayment and would receive all of that back in a sale if they werent facing a foreclosure within 60 days. When HBN comes along they get out of foreclosure and walk away with NO HOUSE, NO MONEY.
Duane just confirmed on the after hours fraudcast (11:55 PM) that the FBI thing is real, not a troll, and that "there are other 3-letter governmental organizations interested in him".
More than likely, the IRS and the FTC. i.e. tax evasion (or collusion to commit tax fraud) and the FTC will be investigating the Google click fraud.
I almost forgot about the SEC. Pertaining to the corporation. And that is a nasty one if Sarbannes-Oxley was violated. (Although I can't be certain if it totally pertains to private companies)
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Jail Bird Casey First
I wonder if Casey will ever see the connection between doing the right thing and his situation getting so much better.
better? he's still facing jail & the FBI.
It remains to be seen if his situation indeed 'gets much better'. He has many sins from the past he still may be called upon to pay for.
Ho Ho Ho - It's Santa Flipper Clause
Rob Dawg - Do you think his situation is better?
Santa F. Clause
Casey sells the domain for $20,000.00, I thought he said he could get over $100,000.00 for it last month. Not that I believed him then but hey looks like there is something out there dumber then Casey. Must be an actual Foreclosure Assistance outfit that is just going to re-direct you to its site. The traffic will drop off once Casey is no longer the story.
If Casey really is under an investigation by the FBI and told him that we should know about it in few days when they slap the kuffs on him. The person under investigation is always the last to know to prevent them from hiding evidence or changing thier activities. If they told him then they either have all they need.
Is KC really facing the FBI? I heard that some joker from here contacted him and tricked him into thinking he was a federal agent.
I'm an infamous ex-EN'er and I'm dialed into the Casey talkcast.
Tonight I make my glorious return.
Y'all invited to my special haterz cast tomorrow night!
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=42043&cmd=tc
D
The buyer of the site...how surprising!....NOT
Did I miss Rob's "big news"?
Holy effing shit! Duane bought the blog!
The main haterz prove they are actually trying to HELP Galina (and maybe even Casey).
Kudos to you Mr. Legate. A simple man offers his respect.
I hope Galina still divorces his stupid ass.
Intresting... Why would Duane buy the blog for 20 grand? What good is it to him?
Listen to the replay.
Its no "good" for Duane he's going to run the site at cost
50% of any proceeds go to Galina
the other 50% goes to other charity cases (the one he mentioned was a recent widow facing foreclosure).
listen to the replay for a longer explanation that is.
Properly structured IAFF could command a high price. yes, things are much, much better for Casey. Whatever he is facing in the near future the comments were "you did what?" and have now become "you sure screwed the pooch but it looks like at the and you started trying to make things right." The difference between time and probation? I have no clue but he's got more in the plus column today than he did on Monday.
Hilarious,
Casey just got a call from the FBI--no independent confirmation. I doubt it was a real FBI agent.
Amazing Casey fell for the troll, if that's what it was. It's illegal to impersonate an FBI agent so I don't expect anyone to admit to it.
And LMP claims his lawsuit triggered the FBI call. Laughable.
ROB...WHy is he actually selling the blog. If you are never going to say, could you just tell us that we will never find out from you
Holiday,
You just can't see what's in front of you. The JUDGE told Casey about the FBI.
@Rab Dawg,
The judge? During the hearing? Is this confirmed by loss mittens?
Now that Casey is telling the truth it is reasonable to take his word that he thinks it selling the blog is the best way to save his personal relationships.
and lmp cashes in. how compassionate!
@ JohnDiddler
GROW UP!!!
~Mark
I can see it now. LMP will get pissed at Casey again, then end up publishing his story. Some favor.
yeah. immaturity! obviously!
Maybe Casey can do ads for Cashcall to pay off that debt and kick that assface Gary Coleman off the air.
*Scummy job tip*
LMP cash in? $20k upfront, a long time before any return if ever. Yes, compassionate fits.
why would anybody buy his blog for 20K when IAFB is currently selling at $833 after 10% daily price chops since starting at $5000!
I DONT BELIEVE YOU CASEY!!
https://www.tdnam.com/trpItemListing.aspx?&miid=7719233
From the Casey-Marty contract:
"- Receive 50% of revenue and 50% ownership for the new book series"
http://www.caseypedia.com/wiki/Contract_With_Marty
Shut up LMP. Let Marty speak.
Marty?
Welcome to CaseyWorld and lawyer up.
You're screwed and now get to sue LMP and Casey or just sit back and lick your gnads.
Casey is and always will be TOXIC WASTE.
LMP has had two very predominant IP attorneys review the situation. I'm not making this up.
Marty bought monkey points!
Someone asked KC how the FBI first contacted him, and he said an agent phoned him. The caller then asked if the agent left a name and callback number for verification. KC said something like, yes, the agent left a name and info, but he didn't say whether he called back to verify it. He just said he believed it was legit.
PS KC said the agent phoned him just to tell him that they (the FBI) had "everything they needed," that they had the contents of the blog and all KC's mortgage documents. Apparently that was the only reason the agent called because that's all KC said. No follow up. I just think this is weird. From my experience the FBI will usually a) try to meet the subject in person and b) ASK questions, not provide information. All they'll usually tell a subject is that there is an investigation ongoing. Why would they provide him with knowledge of what they know?
Marty has yet to understand HE IS THE LAST BAGHOLDER.
Duane bought the domain and has plans to help people.
LMP gets a itty bitty bit of cash and gets a few karma points (he may make a fortune on Casey's story after Casey gets Bongo-Bongoed to death in prison).
Rob moves onto a better blog (what it was with more traffic).
Galina gets some debt payed down and hopefully a divorce (she could insure Casey before he gets Bongo-Bongoeded to death).
Casey's mom gets a lot of bills.
The NLL Ladies don't get shit.
And Marty seethes at getting screwed for years.
Looks like Casey sold the same story twice. Uh oh.
At least he now admits his personal problems are his fault.
I just read a few posts. did mark get casey's story rights? duane bought the blog? helping galina, etc. casey lost it all! doh! well i guess that's the reason for the w-2 looser job search.
And the world haz a whole new vocabulary of haterz™ and supporterz™ and...
" At 5:55 PM, Rob Dawg said...
Looks like Casey sold the same story twice. Uh oh. "
Isn't that what a conman does? Sell's worthless shit over and over? He sold it THREE times. To NLL, LMP and Marty.
So how long before Casey shows up with a blogger.com site?
The_Scum is right, three times. Ain't we having some fun now?
Casey is sucking it up and taking the hitz™.
Uh oh, Sharky is asking about taxes. Casey probably did not pay cap gains on the first condo. He didn't meet the 2 out of 5 rule to avoid them.
Hey LossMitt and Duane - if you are following this thread, have Casey call on me... I promise to be nice and respectful.
Annie
So how long before Casey shows up with a blogger.com site?
My guess. Yes, pure guess, (I don't want to know) is never. I cannot imagine anyone willing to help him would allow any wriggle room on this issue.
Casey: "That's what I gotta do."
" At 6:04 PM, Rob Dawg said...
The_Scum is right, three times. Ain't we having some fun now? "
I like reading that. Feel free to post it often.
I bet Shark already has a tip in to the IRS for the reward on Casey's condo sales taxes fraud. Bullshit Bongo-bongotard had a CPA do his taxes.
If all of this is true and casey truly follows through on getting a real job and starts making amends....I will finally have a little respect for him and possibly be a supporter.
Hey, Annie. Nice Duane and LossMitPro compliments. And the dawg? Sniff.
Good stuff, Duane/LossMit, nice was to pull the endgame. Any update on G's take on the resolution?
Did Judge McMaster actually inform Casey that an FBI investigation was occurring...?
... or was the only real "confirmation" of FBI action a phone call which could have been from a troll-esque "Homey" type??
Please answer this straightforwardly. Thanks.
I'm going to be honest, I am a lil sad we won't get to hear the quiet bombs?
Annie, it's okay to not be hating for today if you post your breasts here.
Mark, I'm glad that you're reading comments on EN in real-time.... appreciate the answer :o)
Benoit,
Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought Casey said the judge was aware of an FBI investigation. Did I misread? I know for sure he brought up FBI and it was in context of the hearing.
re: The_Scum
Annie's saving them for me. So There.
Mark: commenters on the other boards would like you to talk less and allow Casey to talk more.
@LossMitPro:
Mmmm-hmmm, this is some tasty crow. Goes down real easy with a little salt-n-pepper.
I *still* say your lawsuit was bogus. However, it looks like y'all achieved your goal.
You were victorious.
I was proven wrong.
Thanks for the entertainment.
~Zap
As much as I hate that hippie... I hope Galinka takes him back. Perfect ending for the movie. Either that or MARK SMASH! would also be a good ending.
When Casey says "Assign the book rights," what does me mean? Assign them to whom? Mark? Would that mean Mark and Marty would be partners? I smell a buddy comedy...
So I guess now this blog is just going to be Rob bitching about Mexicans?
Duane/LossMitt, what are the odds of us setting up a nonprofit. The entire account will sit for one year and accumulate. If Casey blogs at all in that first year, the money goes to habitat. If he stays true, he gets 1/3rd of the money. The same for the second and third. The money would only go to a pre-approved lender/creditor and handeled by a trustee.
Rob.... Mark was being somewhat vague, which I can understand, but Casey hesitated when asked if he confirmed the "agent's" name and phone number.
I don't know, to be honest... :-\
Ha ha!
Nigel is still pissed he never made any money off Casey and is still a fool who is globally known on the internet as a moron.
I can't listen to the fraudcast. Was the Judge who told Casey about the FBI or he only received the one phone call from the agent?
Duane and Mark, I know you are reading this thread...
Please stop talking for a few minutes so Casey can answer questions on his own.
Benoit,
Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought Casey said the judge was aware of an FBI investigation on his blog. Did I misread? I know for sure he brought up FBI and it was in context of the hearing.
Duane, LMP: I REALLY would like to know your answer to the following question:
Do either of you think that Galina should consider taking Casey back? In your personal opinion. You've expressed opinions (I believe) on the matter before.
If you can address this on the cast, I think a lot of people would like to know.
Rob, I responded with the post at 6:21 PM... I guess we will wait and see.
Casey got punked, tricked, and PWND!!!
This is so funny.
Why's Casey so quiet? Has the murse got his tongue?
And are you guys screwing the original lenders? How very Caseyesque of you?
When someone gets a chance, can I get back on the talkcast? I have some questions to ask before it's over, and I'm afraid nobody is going to ask Casey anything.
Rob so is Casey's selling the Blog and agreeing not to Blog anymore the thing that was "Worse than the FBI?"
Casey got humbled, so I'm pretty satisfied.
I take back my original, witty but harsh comments about Duane and LMP. You guys sound reasonable when you're not fuming.
And I take back the questions I raised as Speedy Villagonzales and as Lord have Murses on Duane's motives with Galina. I was wrong.
I may take heat for this, but is anyone just not buying Casey's "turn-around" which has taken place in a matter of 3 days or so...?
Granted, I don't know exactly what happened with regards to the court, the FBI, whatever, so he may essentially be forced to act contrite. But this smacks of sociopathic behavior, telling people what they want to hear. I just don't buy Casey doing a complete 180 and "seeing the light" in a matter of 72 hours, that's all...
Please put Seb or even hungry bear back on. Please mute Duane, Annie and LMP, what a bunch of jerk offs.
Benoit, any chance of you calling in?
A few comments.
Annie, I agreed with the sentiments you expressed about the individuals on the line. But there really wasn't enough about your breasts. Maybe the next fraudcast should be in video.
Duane, if I may proffer a friendly suggestion... you know how people rag Casey a lot because he keeps using the same phrases over and over, e.g. "It's all good" and "Sweet". Well.... "It is what it is". 'Nuff said.
Best wishes,
NR
PS Now that Marty may be a haterz, can Casey be far behind?
Benoit, please call in and ask specifically how the FBI contacted him. Someone calling and giving a name sounds like a brilliant troll.
I gotta drop the call, I have a meeting I gotta run to. Enjoy all, have fun.
Rob so is Casey's selling the Blog and agreeing not to Blog anymore the thing that was "Worse than the FBI?"
The consequences of not selling and not stopping were what could have been worse. Casey chose his family and everything has been uphill since then.
Benoit™, I don't buy it either. See Casey talking about the riches of Hollywood.
He'll do another scam soon enough. I see him getting into Noni Juice or Herbalife, or some other MLM scheme soon.
I ain't buying into this luvfest one bit. He is shutting down IAFF, but he will pop up elsewhere, and quickly. He is addicted to the limelight, and will continue to blab until the indictment.
It's good that Galena's debts will be paid down, though.
Benoit, any chance of you calling in?
If the next guy (after casey4life) doesn't mention the FBI, I'll call from my cell...
I don't buy it. I believe the turn around is not from his decision to save his marriage, I believe it's from the fear of McMaster, FBI, and all else that's coming.
How many times have I hear the "I'm a changed man" song???
benoit will save this fraudcast!
Somebody please ask the following questions:
Where is Casey staying?
Has he talked to his wife?
Exactly when did he talk to the FBI agent?
How does he know the FBI agent wasn't a troll?
Whose car is he borrowing (it's a gold Toyota pickup)?
"The consequences of not selling and not stopping were what could have been worse.
Dawg: Are you able to tell us what would those consequences have been?
Ho Ho Ho - It's Santa Flipper Clause
Lou Minatti - " ... he will pop up elsewhere ... "
Then we will all play Whack-A-Casey
Santa F. Clause
@NR
Annie & I have already made our sentiments clear.
Dolph, if you're reading this, mention the FBI...!!!!
And Lawnmower, you call in too... hehe
@Benoit™
I may take heat for this, but is anyone just not buying Casey's "turn-around" which has taken place in a matter of 3 days or so...?
***
No hate from me...I think he's totally full of shit. I'm still processing it all, but this is not "him seeing the light". HE THINKS HE CAN STILL GET GALINA BACK. If nothing else, that's why he's doing it. (and there's a lot of "else" too, I'm sure).
God, I hope he's wrong about Galina.
(There are also all sorts of angles with the FBI that I'm not even going to speculate about).
Notice how Casey coyly says "oooh, no" when Dolph asked him if he's starting the blogging again soon.
Casey's pitching woo, as they say in prison. He's trying to seduce another person.
Casey isn't hiding behind his IAFF persona. Did everyone notice? Even the catchphrases are absent. As long as he doesn't slip and fall back into "God bless" and all that there's a chance.
Wagga,
Sorry, I missed much of the call so I didn't hear your comments. I was just echoing Annie.
I'm also wondering if anyone has ever called in and done a Chris Farley imitation to ask if KC is staying in a van down by the river.
NR
Sorry, Rob, the person that was in Australia is coming out...listen carefully between the lines.
He's bongo-bongo bait. He's just in denial about it.
Even if he has come to Jebus it doesn't matter
I haven't been able to listen in so apologies if this was already discussed--is Casey planning (or allowed) to continue with the weekly Fraudcasts?
Casey's got to walk that lonesome valley--he's got to go out and EARN the trust before anyone, especially Galina, will believe him again. Unfortunately, I think he will have to go to jail first.
Oh, and Duane--you are a good person. Thank you.
Duane and Mark are trying to cure someone who is pathological. I'm not sure I understand why. Leave the psychology to the experts. There can be as much collateral damage done in trying to help as in standing aside.
Casey is starting waffle. You can see the little wheels turning as he considers half truths. Now Duane is talking and putting Casey back on the tracks.
Shit,
I feel stupid. I addressed a mild vocabulary criticism above to Duane when it should have been addressed to Lost Mittens. My bad.
NR (Not Rational)
Exactly, Dolph! C does NOT want to hear the truth if it's upleasant.
Duane et al are offering Casey an opportunity for him to change himself. At the same time the same opportunity is helping others. Win-win (ducks).
Galina? Then what is wrong with YOU for staying with him for so long?
If you ask yoruself that and honestly answer you'll grow.
What really bugs me about Casey's about-face is how he stresses that he is trying to do the right thing in order to win his wife back. 1) It is unlikely to be as straightforward a process as he seems to imagine, 2) He seems to have absolutely no concept of doing the right thing because it is the right thing. One caller (forgive me, I forget whom) pointed out that he should be doing this for himself, not for Galina. But I don't think he's actually grasped this concept at all.
Hmm... this is the first fraudcast I've listened to and it'll probably be the last of its kind.
NR
Sharky™, ask about the FBI ... !!
I genuinely don't want to talk to Casey himself and hear his spin. If other callers are on hold, just mention that a decent number of people aren't buying this "seeing the light" deal and that it smacks of telling people what they want to hear.
FWIW, the Galina commenting here is the same Blogger profile as previously requested removal of a few names from CaseyPedia -- and was verified genuine by Duane.
Work is like a curse word for Casey. Especially work that involves physical labor.
Any bets on whether Casey will take that job offer?
@NR
You or I asking Annie to display her treasures is, I know, Not Rational.
http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/dollar-deception.php
what do you guys think of this, sounds like caseyisms to me, im amazed casey hasnt latched on to those "there is no law behind the irs" types...
just a juicy excerpt
Don't believe banks create the money they lend? Neither did the jury in a landmark Minnesota case, until they heard the evidence. First National Bank of Montgomery vs. Daly (1969) was a courtroom drama worthy of a movie script.3 Defendant Jerome Daly opposed the bank's foreclosure on his $14,000 home mortgage loan on the ground that there was no consideration for the loan. "Consideration" ("the thing exchanged") is an essential element of a contract. Daly, an attorney representing himself, argued that the bank had put up no real money for his loan. The courtroom proceedings were recorded by Associate Justice Bill Drexler, whose chief role, he said, was to keep order in a highly charged courtroom where the attorneys were threatening a fist fight. Drexler hadn't given much credence to the theory of the defense, until Mr. Morgan, the bank's president, took the stand. To everyone's surprise, Morgan admitted that the bank routinely created money "out of thin air" for its loans, and that this was standard banking practice. "It sounds like fraud to me," intoned Presiding Justice Martin Mahoney amid nods from the jurors. In his court memorandum, Justice Mahoney stated:
Plaintiff admitted that it, in combination with the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, . . . did create the entire $14,000.00 in money and credit upon its own books by bookkeeping entry. That this was the consideration used to support the Note dated May 8, 1964 and the Mortgage of the same date. The money and credit first came into existence when they created it. Mr. Morgan admitted that no United States Law or Statute existed which gave him the right to do this. A lawful consideration must exist and be tendered to support the Note.
The court rejected the bank's claim for foreclosure, and the defendant kept his house. To Daly, the implications were enormous. If bankers were indeed extending credit without consideration – without backing their loans with money they actually had in their vaults and were entitled to lend – a decision declaring their loans void could topple the power base of the world. He wrote in a local news article:
This decision, which is legally sound, has the effect of declaring all private mortgages on real and personal property, and all U.S. and State bonds held by the Federal Reserve, National and State banks to be null and void. This amounts to an emancipation of this Nation from personal, national and state debt purportedly owed to this banking system. Every American owes it to himself . . . to study this decision very carefully . . . for upon it hangs the question of freedom or slavery.
Galina:
I know this must be difficult for you, but stay strong, stay dedicated to the truth, and take care of yourself. You are stronger than you know.
This dude talking about Casey getting a job seafaring is making too much sense.
Casey, able-bodied seamen are starting at $60k in the Gulf of Mexico right now. If you can wash dishes and make scrambled eggs, you can make good money even if you have no education.
ASK HIM ABOUT THE FBI!!!
LMM--thanks for verifying.
Galina--I really hope things work out for you, whatever you decide to do.
Lawnmower, if I don't end up calling into this talkcast, I will call into the Haterzcast afterwards and try to bring this up...
Sounds like Pink Lips.
Lou--I'd love to see him on Deadliest Catch!
duane's manipulative? who is this mrs. robinson again? i think MARK is manipulative, but not duane. that's my take. SHE JUST WANTS SOME YOUNG CASEY DICK.
This isn't Pink Lips... this person has a legit Bah-ston accent...
Ho Ho Ho - It's Santa Flipper Clause
Galina - if I had a printing press at the North Pole, I'd bring you 10 million dollars for Christmas.
Santa F. Clause
Yorkshire, Casey would provide the crew with sexual release on Deadliest Catch.
Who's that chick making Duane stutter?
Really does sound like Pink Lips.
Fort,
If there's any interest in revisiting fiat currnecy discussion I'll put up a post tomorrow. I do know Casey does have some of the all money is mine all debts are bogus.
why does some boston freak's internet choices mean casey serin's successful? crap, lady, the internet's full of yappers with audiences.
Bubba--You're right, that's probably the only use he'd be to those very hard-working folks!
Nasty Bahstan talwk can talk over a Southern Gentleman any day. Doesn't mean she's right just talking faster and louder and meaner.
Galina,
Stay strong. This has got to be hard. I honestly believe this is a low as it goes for you.
LMP< no one CARES AOBUT WHAT WAS SAID IN THE CHAMBERS>
We want to know about the SPECIFICS on how the FBI was in contact with Casey
Mark and Duane,
Please ask Casey to put me (Sebastien) back on. I have some questions to ask him, and I have a feeling the talkcast will end soon.
I am on hold, though cell phone might die...
Someone tell the Dude to reschedule Haterzcast to 11 PM EST... sorry if this has been covered, but not reading CHC at this moment
Galina:
Keep your head up. You're strong and you're doing the right thing for yourself and your own life.
Duane's happier than a fish in water.
He can give the pennies from AIFF to Galina. That's admirable.
But he'll have a domain that shows up in google's top 10 for keyword FORECLOSURE.
Imagine all the business he can get.
At least fliptard had his wings clipped a little, and some of Galina's debt can be paid off.
I don't buy it. I believe the turn around is not from his decision to save his marriage, I believe it's from the fear of McMaster, FBI, and all else that's coming.
How many times have I hear the "I'm a changed man" song???
I am utterly stoked that you are this intelligent, Galina. I wish you nothing but the best in extricating yourself from the soulless void that is Casey Serin and getting on with your life.
Awesome. Just awesome. :)
Okay Rob - Here's a big shout out to you.....
Thanks for the entertainment and creating the forum to bring the haterz together, forge friendships, and take action.
It appears that LossMitt and Duane have done some good things over the past few weeks that will ultimately benefit someone who, eight months ago, had been a total stranger.
There are many people who have had good intentions over these past few months - T (Nacho), Steph, Shark, MSingh, you.... So many names I can't keep track.
Of course, as you all know, my concern is for the safety and well being of Galina who was treated poorly and with great disrespect. I hope Casey understands the trust which is an elemental foundation for any relationship has been broken. A few big actions over the course of a week is just a very very small baby step.... but it does not repair the damage.
And yeah, I know, I was not my hater self tonight, however, it was not appropriate. No reason to kick the guy....
Again, from the other board, addressed at Mark: "LET CASEY SPEAK FOR HIMSELF."
And again: "Let CASEY answer this!!!!"
Also, Galina:
If you are listening to the talkcast, I hope you see it as significant that LMP and Duane are the two standing up for you. Casey isn't saying A WORD.
Somebody tell Mark that in his analogy, A PERSON IS LEGALLY GUILTY!!!
A cop was shot by two guys in NYC. Another guy was sitting in the car. That other guy is also charged with MURDER.
Benoit™ can confirm this, since he's in NY, and probably seen the story on NY1
IMHO, any husband worth his salt would come to the defense of his wife. If my husband heard this he'd be shouting my defense from the rooftops.
Casey has a lot to learn. He is a selfish git. He really needs to grow up and stop acting like a little boy.
Galina:
That offer of seafaring stands for you also.
Seafarers International Union
WWW.Seafarers.org
Make some money, spend very little of it, medical and pension benefits,and see the world.
You'll start cleaning toilets,but then you can learn to fix 'em, and then you can learn other things, things that pay honest money.
We have women working out here.
Andthere's the sunny island of Diego Garcia,where you can find a far better husband than what you got the first time around.
Good luck to you,devotchka.
Thank you, Benoit. A bunch of us aren't buying this.
Mark,
All due respect, but shut up and let Casey answer for himself.
You're right Lou, this is just a sophisticated con for the next phase of Casey's career.
We'll see if that job happens, but I for one, will NOT be holding my breath.
I agree. As much as I would love to believe the change of heart I have a very hard time believing it based on past performance.
Seb:
No on has a gag on Casey's mouth. He jumped in when Boston Fruitcake called. Why not now.
Well, it's Casey. Why speak for himself when others can do it for him; this is what he has done continually, over and over again.
Casey says all the right things,but does the same old shit.
So let's see what he DOES.
Galina, if you're reading this:
I want to echo everyone else who is telling you to "stay strong" and continue on the path you have started - to get away from Casey and get on with your life... you have so much of it in front of you. I don't know you, and I respect whatever beliefs you hold about your marriage vows. But... he is not going to change where it comes to you.
Stay strong. Lean on your family, it sounds like they are there for you. GET OUT of your marriage.
I say this with sincere concern for your well-being, and for no other reason.
HAHH AH AHH AHAH...Mark has 'the court' behind him...ha h ahahhahhahah.
Mark? Your little lawsuit and settlement doesn't mean shit.
You are being played. But Casey has BIGGER ISSUES NOW. He won't be blogging from PRISON.
Galina is a fool. Maybe she is culpable and maybe she isn't but SHE STAYED WITH CASEY AND IS LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR HALF OF CASEY'S SHIT.
Casey is screwed. He's desperate to do whatever he can to get out of whatever shit he can because the HUGE SHIT FLOOD is the FBI.
Let Galina take Casey back, it'll be a long wait until Casey gets out of prison.
Casey's 'come to Jebus' isn't for Galina it because he is terrified of the FBI. Rightly so.
Somebody ask if Casey's traveling days are over and whether he's getting help on spending control issues.
You go Galina!
Galina....don't buy the "i'm sorry, i'm changed" bullcrap. This is his biggest con to date. Stay strong..move on..build yourself a life, you can do it.
OK, I tried... and told Casey to take Sebastian again.
I'm glad I got in the "Galina posting" stuff in....
Casey STILL can't defend his wife...jeez. Whatever. Figure it out for yourself dude.
Galina,
Unless Casey is going to confess to the FBI, and take full responsibility for all his actions, don't buy it!
And after your credit cards are paid off, how can you protect yourself from his other debts?
Why does Casey need to "learn" how to defend you? He should know it from love.
I think Casey believes Casey. I'm sure he "intends" to do the right thing and he does have lots of new constraints but come Aug 4th and no blog, no money, no attention... Casey, we'll leave a light on here at EN so you can at least put up some replies.
Benoit--good for you getting that comment in about G posting here. Casey's response was typically clueless.
Well done Benoit.
For some reason The Dude and R-Boy have started their haterzcast already. Makes no sense to me, but what do I know? link.
G ain't taking ya back, Casey.
Galina?
You have a tough row to hoe.
Good luck with that.
It starts with ditching 'it's all good boi' and being responsible for yourself.
You benefited from his stealing, now comes the ugly time when adults are held responsible.
Casey is a user and a theif. Your life is hammered shit for years and years because YOU MARRIED HIM and watched while he flushed BOTH your lives down the toilet.
Trusting him now means even more years of hammered shit.
rob dawg:
"I think Casey believes Casey."
Casey always believes Casey,it's just that he's not a very good liar.
Of course,when you're lying to Casey,you don't have to be, just as long as you're "positive"
Good god. The way he "creatively heard" the question from "save your marriage" and interpreted it as a suggestion to "see a marriage counselor" was simply mind-blowing. These callers need to stop being so effing polite about everything.
I think the caller was trying not to be mean, but to tell Casey to go see a "counselor" or even a pychiatrist. Not to be mean, but because he is SERIOUSLY DISTURBED.
"You need to partner with a negative person to run your stuff by"-caller
He ain't gonna be MY fuckin'partner!
This idiot said "Ex-ooban"
current caller sez
these guys on exuber nation are gloating over the death of your marriage
they aren't doing anything positive
Uhh, getting Galina away from Casey will be the shining positive of this ENTIRE story...
Testify Fart!
Yep.
"People take enjoyment out of throwing salt on a snail."
And what's wrong with that?
Snails are destructive...in case you hadn't noticed.
People who break the law and shit the bed the rest of us have to sleep in SHOULD suffer.
The_Scum: "Trusting him now means even more years of hammered shit."
Or Hammar'ed shit ;-)
crimekate....
the problem with marraige counseling is it is based on the assumption that both parties and sound psychologically.
That obviously isn't the case regarding Casey.
Doomed to failure before it starts unless Casey (and probably Galina since she put up with him for this long) undergo intensive therapy and self realization FIRST.
Ain't going to happen.
All: enjoy owning your blogs while you can. LMP will be after more. 12years, jeepgirl, caseypedia. He is scum pretending to be good. Fuck you LMP.
Nice one York!
Hee, hee, thanks T_S. Couldn't resist it.
" At 7:47 PM, Gypsy Pete said...
He is scum pretending to be good. "
Careful.
gypsy pete:
" enjoy owning your blogs while you can. LMP will be after more. 12years, jeepgirl, caseypedia."
Yeah folks,all you have to do is break several state and local laws, go 2.2million in the hole,and LMP will come and GET YA!
(Yeesh!)
Well, Casey just managed to plug next week's Friday Fraudcast before the Talkshoe feed hit the 3-hour cutoff limit.. meh
Dawg: "Somebody ask if Casey's traveling days are over"
Wouldn't an FBI investigation warrant the confiscation of his passport? Or is he still free to roam the world like that bloke with TB?
Dear Armchair Shrink
It was on but they decided to end it with some noises about resuming after the Fraudcast.. I think that was it, but I was busy doing something else when I tuned in to the end of what they were talking about.
NR
AFTER HOURS FRAUDCAST
But is there a link for those of us who haven't received a response yet from CHC in order to join?
NR (sitting home all alone with no haters to talk to).
THERE IS AN AFTER HOURS FRAUDCAST RIGHT HERE. WITH DUANE LEGATE
Merci Benoit.
NR
sorry for the technical question. is the deal done? or will the deal be done on august 3rd? big difference to me. hate to sound skeptical but if this deal is not done with money and blog having traded hands, seems like there still a possiblity this deal could blow up.
Sharkey / The Scum...
LMP is not about saving KC but trolling him back. KC got fucked over (not that him being fucked over is so bad) but LMP went after KC coz of his defamation of his supposed good name - not KC's debt etc. Why wouldn't he now - having tasted some success with his bullying at last - stop at one? At least Aspeth will have the balls to fight him properly instead of rolling over like KC did. Mark V - you are scum.
Hi cutie! ; )
Oh Joy!
Gypsy Pete is back. The best thing about Pete is that he is wrong so often.
And he looks so cute in his little tin foil hat.
Duane just confirmed on the after hours fraudcast (11:55 PM) that the FBI thing is real, not a troll, and that "there are other 3-letter governmental organizations interested in him".
Duane sez he told Casey that a stint in prison would be good for him.
I have a question for the fraudcast!!!
Duane,
Is this effort to save galina to perhaps make up for the evil you do to innocent people worldwide by legally stealing the equity in their homes when they are at their lowest point and are desperate to sell to avoid foreclosure? Just to clarify... It was a company like yours that sold many of these homes afterwards to people like Casey right?
@Northern Renter: check that your CHC signup email isn't in your Spam folder. (It's the most common problem, apparently.)
Duane just confirmed on the after hours fraudcast (11:55 PM) that the FBI thing is real, not a troll, and that "there are other 3-letter governmental organizations interested in him".
More than likely, the IRS and the FTC. i.e. tax evasion (or collusion to commit tax fraud) and the FTC will be investigating the Google click fraud.
@Whatever
Nice troll.
I'm sure HomeBuyersNetwork doesn't suck as much equity as a full-fledged realtor.
If you can't stand anyone making money on a transaction, move to North Korea, cuz that's the free-market.
El Grabby
There is a difference between making money legally and taking advantage of people legally.
@whatever
And how is Duane taking more advantage of a homeseller than a realtor?
el grabby
A real estate agent is offering a house in exchange for a 4-5% fee HBN is taking all the equity of a desperate seller trying to avoid foreclosure. In fact if the equity is not high enough they have no interest. No equity no interest in helping you for housebuyersnetwork.
here you go grabby
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/warrenreports/2007/jan/30/kicking_them_when_they_are_down_enter_the_foreclosure_scammers
you know, CHIEF 100 is completely legit, and very fair, asking questions I HAVE MYSELF. and watching key players smear him is FUCKING ANNOYING. the guy brings THE HARD QUESTIONS with SINCERE MOTIVES. so WHAT THE FUCK. alas, we can't ask hard questions, huh! it's all about the PLAYAH HATERZ. what the fuck ever. CHIEF 100 IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.
@whatever
So if a person has $10k equity on a $300K house, they get a better deal selling via duane than a realtor. So how is Duane taking more advantage than a realtor?
HAhh ahh ahh ahha...judging by the increased trolling action here on EN now...
Marty's pimp troll hand is strong.
Aaron? FO. You have been an ass and are wrong.
Pete? Whatever? Marty is now officially fucked up the goatass and needs to either lick his nads or lawyer up.
Heh, I'd buy a house from Duane. I'll probably call him soon.
If someone put down only 10 thousand on a loan for 300k then they are rich and have magnificiant credit and wont ever need house buyers network.
the fact of the matter is that often people have a lot more than 10k in equity simply from the downpayment and would receive all of that back in a sale if they werent facing a foreclosure within 60 days. When HBN comes along they get out of foreclosure and walk away with NO HOUSE, NO MONEY.
Duane just confirmed on the after hours fraudcast (11:55 PM) that the FBI thing is real, not a troll, and that "there are other 3-letter governmental organizations interested in him".
More than likely, the IRS and the FTC. i.e. tax evasion (or collusion to commit tax fraud) and the FTC will be investigating the Google click fraud.
I almost forgot about the SEC. Pertaining to the corporation. And that is a nasty one if Sarbannes-Oxley was violated. (Although I can't be certain if it totally pertains to private companies)
Whatever? Then start a business and compete with Duane assface.
Let them be foreclosed and walk away with money.
Tell Marty hello.
@whatever
If someone put down only 10 thousand on a loan for 300k then they are rich and have magnificiant credit and wont ever need house buyers network.
Or... Their last name could be Serin?
And in a falling market equity becomes very disjointed from down payment and principal paid. Or haven't you paid any attention to IAFF?
Dickhead.
If someone put down only 10 thousand on a loan for 300k then they are rich and have magnificiant credit and wont ever need house buyers network.
What planet are you from, Whatever? Have you perhaps skipped the last 5 years of subprime mortgage bliss followed by melt down?
Gardeners and Starbucks Asst. managers are buying $500,000 homes with zero down and credit of 580.
How can you possible be commenting about Casey and not be aware of the state of the housing market?
Whatever is an effing troll or Marty.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
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