Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Saturday, February 10, 2007
Hairy Backed Future Roomate
I keepong with Title IX equal opportunity this post will hopefully attract ads for male patern baldness, body hair removal, tattoo services and sweaty palm cures.
37 comments:
Anonymous
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Mr. Dawg - thank you for being so freakin witty (and for putting up with some of us)
Is that the result of an early human-animal experiment?
I can see definite advantages. It's a real pain putting sunscreen on the back. As successive generations lead to longer and more lustrous coats, we may be able to forgo cloth altogether. Just think of the money savings and a world without cloth horse magazines and anorexic models!
Hey, what gang do you think Casey will join once he's in the slammer? Obviously, he's not Crips or Bloods material. Can a Russian kid join the White Power gangs? He might have to start his own gang, The Flipz.
So here I am, flipping channels and I come across Property Ladder. Here are the basic elements of the equation:
* Newlywed couple * Fixer-upper in a shitty Sacramento neighborhood (I belive the host called it "struggling". From the footage, I call it "the ghetto".) * No pre-sale inspection * Every 3rd house is a remodel in progress * Our flippers think that means that the neighborhood is improving, not that it's one giant flipper circle-jerk
I believe the troll is filling this blog with garbage and content with anything unrelated to Casey. Please post links to Casey's pictures and other info (posts).
Let's keep this blog fresh with Casey data - that is his biggest problem. It's been a couple of days since any pic/post lijnks have been posted.
Ogg, i am the one on caseys site in a post that recommend he get the mailman to birddog for him....
He went straight up to him and told him all about it and offered a birddogging charge....the mailman will never go for that because they will think it is the postal inspection service trying to test him and they may be right too.
I told casey that he has to establish a repoire with the mailman and build trust over time to get the mailman to do it.
Most mailmen will never agree to it...I have used a couple in the past that led me to some great deals.
mailman are just a very small piece of the pie in your referral network...casey thinks by just talking to someone about it that he can sit back and wait for the phone to ring.
Hey Ogg I remember that episode...wrong house in the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time...woops anotehr young couple who thought they were somehow different from all the other flippers and realize that they really are avg. Oh well, from what I remember the genius guy quit his job too...shee.....
Um, if that photo is responsible for the "Soulmate Calculator" ad, I don't think I'll be using their service.
@ Ogg I don't think we need to worry about Casey being alone in the big house. Remember, he's currently assembling his team. I have a feeling a few of his broker and agent "teammates" may be regret signing onto Team Casey before everything is said and done.
You do realize that they usually say that at the end of those shows so they don't look tstupid right?
I've read on forums where usually the deal falls out of escrow, or they just plain lied about selling it, and then you see them listing the property on craig's list or other places where it is still for sale.
From what I remember, this couple was hosed.
About the Ian/Nicole flip, I was browsing foreclosures in the Sacramento Craigslist housing section and I found this:
While everything got a little strange last night and I miss Caseyland USA, one of the trolls mentioned a blog about a blog and I thought a blog about a blog about a blog would be interesting. Thoughts?
The CL link is 404, but it doesn't surprise me to hear that those homes often don't sell. The figures quoted in the episode showed that roughly 10% of the homes on the market in Sacramento sell during any given month.
I started out amused at the beginning of that episode, and ended up pissed off. Like Casey, that couple had absolutely no busines going anywhere near real estate speculation. They didn't have the maturity, the understanding of the market, the remodeling expereince, or the cash reserves.
If what you say is true, they are financially ruined. Based on what I saw in that episode I'd bet money against their marraige as well.
If it weren't for the "gurus", late-night infomercial hucksters, and other false prophets including the people behind shows like Property Ladder, those two probably would still be working away at their boring 9-5 jobs and saving for a home of their own. The Caseys of the world are doomed no matter what -- if nothing else, Amway would've gotten him sooner or later -- but I think a lot of folks get sucked into this thing who would otherwise be ok.
mel: Although I saw the threats last night, I'm just now catching up on the rest of the thread. I'm sorry you were subjected to that.
I don't know how you feel about it, but for me, it's that much more shocking that it turned out to really be Tim. That sort of thing is sometimes easier to take from a random anonymous Internet troll than from somene you know, however slightly.
- Ogg, who likes a good scotch as much as the next guy but never reacts to it like that
mel: Yeah, and sorry for my snarky comment too. The whole series of events just seemed so unbelievable, the only way I could see it working was that some troll just hijacked everyone's names at once (yours included) and enacted this bizarre drama all on their own. The thought that one of the most apparently stable posters had flipped out seemed pretty impossible to me, but as I said, the world is a weird place. Sorry for thinking you'd been replaced by a creepy man-troll.
well i came in last night right after all the fun hit ..all I saw was a bunch of deleted posts from rob.
at least this thread has shed some light on it for me.
So it was tim posing as a bunch of people...and what arguing with himself basically...creating a drama war between what people thought were different people?
chjts: Me neither. I can take criticism of me or my postings, but to wish death on folks is harsh.
I may despise Casey's actions and lies but in no way would I ever want him or his enablers physically hurt. I've posted that numerous times. Funny how his supporters think death is fun.
I also get the feeling some of the anonymous posters weren't just Tim. I am pretty observant with writing styles and a couple struck me as very familiar.
But then again, thank God for the First Amendment. We could live in a craphole country where nobody comment on anything without fear of being oppressed by the government or mob rule.
I don't think that the "real" Tim was involved unless he was so wired up on drugs that he didn't know which end was up. Based on his posting history, he just doesn't seem to be the kind of person who would suddenly turn into a vicious troll.
I could be wrong, of course, but I tend to think it was a name-jacking as well as a troll invasion.
I don't know how you feel about it, but for me, it's that much more shocking that it turned out to really be Tim. That sort of thing is sometimes easier to take from a random anonymous Internet troll than from somene you know, however slightly.
In my native Britain, there have been four recent cases of celebrities accused of involvement with underage sex to some degree (whether downloading child porn or actual assault), and it was fascinating seeing the way people instinctively jumped.
With Jonathan King and Gary Glitter, both widely loathed (especially King), the universal reaction was "lock them up and throw away the key" - i.e. presumption of guilt right from the start.
But with The Who's Pete Townshend and the comedian Chris Langham, both of whom are genuinely liked and respected (and conspicuously more talented), the near-universal reaction was to assume innocence until proven otherwise in court.
Which is fine - only I don't recall anyone presuming innocence with the first two! (True, they ended up being convicted, but this was long before the case came to trial).
Hence the shock over Tim - obviously, we don't know him, but we do "know" him, we've read his extremely detailed and cogently argued posts and the instant assumption was that it was someone trolling under his name. I was as shocked as anyone when it turned out to be him for real - in fact, I posted something along the lines of the only racing certainty being that it WOULDN'T be him.
what was disturbing about Tim's tirade was that his drunken persona was very different from the one we are used to.
Tim, on the odd chance that you are reading this, I strongly suspect that you have a problem with alcohol. From some of your comments on IAFF, you may have psychological issues with women as well.
I would advise you to get help with these matters before you injure someone else or yourself.
The latest ugliness is reminiscent of two weeks ago and the garbage that was posted on IAFF re the Phoenix ladies. Lot's of hating posted there directed at the ladies, which was interesting because it was around the time CS started agressively deleting "hate messages". Yet the hate flourished just directed at the NLL. To me it looked like CS and his peanut gallery took that opportunity to vent and turn the tables (in their minds perhaps). That's when the boycott started and I've been with it ever since. Haven't been to IAFF and won't be again. Now that same vitriol is appearing here. I suppose the pressure of the real problems and the diminshing viewship of his own blog (that is the case isn't it?) lead him and the peanut gallery here to dirty our waters. If CS could channel his hate into action on his own predicament he might be making some progress. As for TMBA - I don't think it was him posting the comments. Not the style we have seen from him in the past. Perhaps he posted on IAFF with something CS didn't want to hear and CS decided the revenge would be hi jacking his persona and posting here. As for the drunk excuse - Just befor the boycott I posted some hate at IAFF which read: Casey, FU, signed G. (abbreviated but you get the picture). I don't think it got posted and later I felt badly about the blunt cruelness of the statement so I posted an apology with the explanation that I was drunk (which I wasn't). Could it be that CS has co opted my lame excuse? I don't want to feed the trolls just wanted to add my ideas. Thanks Rob for this sight, and thank you Dolph for yours it will be missed.
RE: TfMBA--I couldn't have said it better, myself. It's kind of like Mel Gibson trying to blow off his anti-Semitic remarks when he got pulled over as the result of too much alcohol; most of us have been completetly blitzed, but neither Gibson-esque anti-Semitism nor TfMBA-style misogynistic hate screeds are the order of the day for 99% of us after having one too many.
He seems like the typical D&D geek who made it big, but still wants people to pat him on the back and tell him how bloody brilliant he is, and how cyber girlfriends are soooo much better than the real thing. Norman Bates, indeed!
I keepong with Title IX equal opportunity this post will hopefully attract ads for male patern baldness, body hair removal, tattoo services and sweaty palm cures.
37 comments:
Mr. Dawg - thank you for being so freakin witty (and for putting up with some of us)
You da man
Hmm. Just housing and bubble-related ads.
Is that the result of an early human-animal experiment?
I can see definite advantages. It's a real pain putting sunscreen on the back. As successive generations lead to longer and more lustrous coats, we may be able to forgo cloth altogether. Just think of the money savings and a world without cloth horse magazines and anorexic models!
On the other hand, I was kind of hoping Bubba would be bigger and with more, ergh, girth.
Astrid said
"On the other hand, I was kind of hoping Bubba would be bigger and with more, ergh, girth"
Heehee, I wonder if Casey is hoping for the same thing........
That's amazing. How did you get Crazy Sarin's picture so quickly?
Hey, what gang do you think Casey will join once he's in the slammer? Obviously, he's not Crips or Bloods material. Can a Russian kid join the White Power gangs? He might have to start his own gang, The Flipz.
Good question. White power groups neo-nazi and might consider Slavs to be sub-human.
Maybe he could land in a prison full of Amway scammers, then he'd fit right in.
So here I am, flipping channels and I come across Property Ladder. Here are the basic elements of the equation:
* Newlywed couple
* Fixer-upper in a shitty Sacramento neighborhood (I belive the host called it "struggling". From the footage, I call it "the ghetto".)
* No pre-sale inspection
* Every 3rd house is a remodel in progress
* Our flippers think that means that the neighborhood is improving, not that it's one giant flipper circle-jerk
This ought to be amusing.
Oh, at risk of this looking like a blow-by-blow:
* 30k budget
@ lockdown
I can just picture him & his gang (perhaps the bird-dogging mailman will get sent up the river) negotiating sweet deals on fixer-upper pay phones.
I believe the troll is filling this blog with garbage and content with anything unrelated to Casey. Please post links to Casey's pictures and other info (posts).
Let's keep this blog fresh with Casey data - that is his biggest problem. It's been a couple of days since any pic/post lijnks have been posted.
Ogg, i am the one on caseys site in a post that recommend he get the mailman to birddog for him....
He went straight up to him and told him all about it and offered a birddogging charge....the mailman will never go for that because they will think it is the postal inspection service trying to test him and they may be right too.
I told casey that he has to establish a repoire with the mailman and build trust over time to get the mailman to do it.
Most mailmen will never agree to it...I have used a couple in the past that led me to some great deals.
mailman are just a very small piece of the pie in your referral network...casey thinks by just talking to someone about it that he can sit back and wait for the phone to ring.
Sweaty palms and hairy backs apparently brings us ads for consultants. Hmm.. interesting.
Is that caseys new lover? Man he sure knows how to pick them.
Hey Ogg I remember that episode...wrong house in the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time...woops anotehr young couple who thought they were somehow different from all the other flippers and realize that they really are avg. Oh well, from what I remember the genius guy quit his job too...shee.....
HUMM....
would love to cuddle with him at night.
Legion: Yup, that's the one. Amazingly, they managed to clear $10k when they finally sold it.
Weird, I've got an ad for surf trips in El Salvador. I don't really want to think about how surfing and Backhairzilla are related.
Um, if that photo is responsible for the "Soulmate Calculator" ad, I don't think I'll be using their service.
@ Ogg
I don't think we need to worry about Casey being alone in the big house. Remember, he's currently assembling his team. I have a feeling a few of his broker and agent "teammates" may be regret signing onto Team Casey before everything is said and done.
@Ogg
You do realize that they usually say that at the end of those shows so they don't look tstupid right?
I've read on forums where usually the deal falls out of escrow, or they just plain lied about selling it, and then you see them listing the property on craig's list or other places where it is still for sale.
From what I remember, this couple was hosed.
About the Ian/Nicole flip, I was browsing foreclosures in the Sacramento Craigslist housing section and I found this:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/rfs/199371435.html
It reads:
$210000 For sale by ower, Owner carry, lease option. In foreclosure
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Reply to: jnunes@ftcnet.net
Date: 2006-08-26, 7:09PM PDT
Started home, a very good one ready to move in.
872 sf, 2 beds, 1 bath. I am willing to lease option it, maybe even carry the loan on a wrap.
530.367.5385 or jnunes@ftcnet.net Comparable Sales Data HAWTHORNE ST, SACRAMENTO CA 95815-2117 APN: 263-0153-013 SACRAMENTO COUNTY Comparable Sales Data *****2559 GROVE AVE 08/03/2006 $200,000 $235 852 4/2/1.0**** *****408 LEITCH AVE 04/19/2006 $225,000 $282 798 5/2/1.0**** *****2521 ALTOS AVE 06/02/2006 $240,000 $265 905 4/2/1.0**** *****2731 FORREST S 04/12/2006 $305,000 $331 922 5/2/1.0**** ****2563 ALTOS AVE 01/05/2006 $200,000 $224 891 4/2/1.0**** *****580 LAMPASAS AVE07/28/2006 $240,000 $296 810 4/2/1.0***** *****2591 ALTOS AVE 03/29/2006 $232,000 $286 810 4/2/1.0 **** *****82 BAY DR 04/24/2006 $230,000 $260 884 4/2/1.0 **** ****10 SANTIAGO AVE03/02/2006 $220,000 $243 907 4/2/1.0**** ****760 BELASCO AVE 04/28/2006 $240,000 $294 816 4/2/1.0****
So then they sold it for 255K? Bullshit or can you say mortgage fraud?
I think the only set Casey can hook up with in Pelican Bay are the Pin Cushions (aka the Bat Smokers).
there are plenty of ex-Soviet block people in the slammer. doesn't casey already have a relative in prison -- some sergei?
in fact, sergei may literally save casey's ass in the big house.
prison is not meant to be fun, as this link shows...
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/rodney_hulin.html
While everything got a little strange last night and I miss Caseyland USA, one of the trolls mentioned a blog about a blog and I thought a blog about a blog about a blog would be interesting. Thoughts?
And then a blog about a blog about a blog about a blog about a blog, ad infinitum. We have a great cast of characters here.
@ Legion:
The CL link is 404, but it doesn't surprise me to hear that those homes often don't sell. The figures quoted in the episode showed that roughly 10% of the homes on the market in Sacramento sell during any given month.
I started out amused at the beginning of that episode, and ended up pissed off. Like Casey, that couple had absolutely no busines going anywhere near real estate speculation. They didn't have the maturity, the understanding of the market, the remodeling expereince, or the cash reserves.
If what you say is true, they are financially ruined. Based on what I saw in that episode I'd bet money against their marraige as well.
If it weren't for the "gurus", late-night infomercial hucksters, and other false prophets including the people behind shows like Property Ladder, those two probably would still be working away at their boring 9-5 jobs and saving for a home of their own. The Caseys of the world are doomed no matter what -- if nothing else, Amway would've gotten him sooner or later -- but I think a lot of folks get sucked into this thing who would otherwise be ok.
mel: Although I saw the threats last night, I'm just now catching up on the rest of the thread. I'm sorry you were subjected to that.
I don't know how you feel about it, but for me, it's that much more shocking that it turned out to really be Tim. That sort of thing is sometimes easier to take from a random anonymous Internet troll than from somene you know, however slightly.
- Ogg, who likes a good scotch as much as the next guy but never reacts to it like that
mel: Yeah, and sorry for my snarky comment too. The whole series of events just seemed so unbelievable, the only way I could see it working was that some troll just hijacked everyone's names at once (yours included) and enacted this bizarre drama all on their own. The thought that one of the most apparently stable posters had flipped out seemed pretty impossible to me, but as I said, the world is a weird place. Sorry for thinking you'd been replaced by a creepy man-troll.
I forgot about this place, and so did everyone else, I guess:
http://casey.14.forumer.com/
well i came in last night right after all the fun hit ..all I saw was a bunch of deleted posts from rob.
at least this thread has shed some light on it for me.
So it was tim posing as a bunch of people...and what arguing with himself basically...creating a drama war between what people thought were different people?
I didnt think tim was a casey supporter?
in the end who cares...he can kiss my ass too.
chjts: Me neither. I can take criticism of me or my postings, but to wish death on folks is harsh.
I may despise Casey's actions and lies but in no way would I ever want him or his enablers physically hurt. I've posted that numerous times. Funny how his supporters think death is fun.
I also get the feeling some of the anonymous posters weren't just Tim. I am pretty observant with writing styles and a couple struck me as very familiar.
But then again, thank God for the First Amendment. We could live in a craphole country where nobody comment on anything without fear of being oppressed by the government or mob rule.
I don't think that the "real" Tim was involved unless he was so wired up on drugs that he didn't know which end was up. Based on his posting history, he just doesn't seem to be the kind of person who would suddenly turn into a vicious troll.
I could be wrong, of course, but I tend to think it was a name-jacking as well as a troll invasion.
I don't know how you feel about it, but for me, it's that much more shocking that it turned out to really be Tim. That sort of thing is sometimes easier to take from a random anonymous Internet troll than from somene you know, however slightly.
In my native Britain, there have been four recent cases of celebrities accused of involvement with underage sex to some degree (whether downloading child porn or actual assault), and it was fascinating seeing the way people instinctively jumped.
With Jonathan King and Gary Glitter, both widely loathed (especially King), the universal reaction was "lock them up and throw away the key" - i.e. presumption of guilt right from the start.
But with The Who's Pete Townshend and the comedian Chris Langham, both of whom are genuinely liked and respected (and conspicuously more talented), the near-universal reaction was to assume innocence until proven otherwise in court.
Which is fine - only I don't recall anyone presuming innocence with the first two! (True, they ended up being convicted, but this was long before the case came to trial).
Hence the shock over Tim - obviously, we don't know him, but we do "know" him, we've read his extremely detailed and cogently argued posts and the instant assumption was that it was someone trolling under his name. I was as shocked as anyone when it turned out to be him for real - in fact, I posted something along the lines of the only racing certainty being that it WOULDN'T be him.
what was disturbing about Tim's tirade was that his drunken persona was very different from the one we are used to.
Tim, on the odd chance that you are reading this, I strongly suspect that you have a problem with alcohol. From some of your comments on IAFF, you may have psychological issues with women as well.
I would advise you to get help with these matters before you injure someone else or yourself.
Friends,
The latest ugliness is reminiscent of two weeks ago and the garbage that was posted on IAFF re the Phoenix ladies. Lot's of hating posted there directed at the ladies, which was interesting because it was around the time CS started agressively deleting "hate messages". Yet the hate flourished just directed at the NLL.
To me it looked like CS and his peanut gallery took that opportunity to vent and turn the tables (in their minds perhaps). That's when the boycott started and I've been with it ever since. Haven't been to IAFF and won't be again.
Now that same vitriol is appearing here. I suppose the pressure of the real problems and the diminshing viewship of his own blog (that is the case isn't it?) lead him and the peanut gallery here to dirty our waters. If CS could channel his hate into action on his own predicament he might be making some progress.
As for TMBA - I don't think it was him posting the comments. Not the style we have seen from him in the past. Perhaps he posted on IAFF with something CS didn't want to hear and CS decided the revenge would be hi jacking his persona and posting here. As for the drunk excuse - Just befor the boycott I posted some hate at IAFF which read: Casey, FU, signed G. (abbreviated but you get the picture). I don't think it got posted and later I felt badly about the blunt cruelness of the statement so I posted an apology with the explanation that I was drunk (which I wasn't). Could it be that CS has co opted my lame excuse? I don't want to feed the trolls just wanted to add my ideas.
Thanks Rob for this sight, and thank you Dolph for yours it will be missed.
Sid--
RE: TfMBA--I couldn't have said it better, myself. It's kind of like Mel Gibson trying to blow off his anti-Semitic remarks when he got pulled over as the result of too much alcohol; most of us have been completetly blitzed, but neither Gibson-esque anti-Semitism nor TfMBA-style misogynistic hate screeds are the order of the day for 99% of us after having one too many.
He seems like the typical D&D geek who made it big, but still wants people to pat him on the back and tell him how bloody brilliant he is, and how cyber girlfriends are soooo much better than the real thing. Norman Bates, indeed!
--K
Miguel said...
In my native Britain
Holy shit, MigDreamy... you just keep getting better and better.
<3
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