Wednesday, June 06, 2007

All Election All the Time


As we draw so very close the Presidential election the only responsible thing to do switch to full time coverage of the process. Not. I'm a very involved politcal type and I'm sorry but a 2 year election cycle is destructive to the process. All this serves is to train a monkey to dance to the MSM tune. Not that there isn't relevant news. 9 of the 10 Rs oppose the immigration bill. Ron Paul won majorities in 3 of the 4 polls (vote.com, cnn, msnbc) but Fox put him in 2nd with only 24%. None of the pundits thought Paul was worth mentioning. On the D side it is equally interesting that they seem to be running for the position of "not the republican." And California is only 8 months away. No thanks, good candidates do not equate to good Presidents. Talk to me in November. The media love controlled stories; when, how long, ability to creatively edit, closed polls. They'll cover the campaigns unil we are sick of it. Voter fatigue is a goal for them. This is also why they are so lame in following the housing bubble. It is a story out of their control that won't unfold on their schedule. News in a cn now with 30% less content.

115 comments:

Mr First said...

I once met a poster who's FIRST
He said "soon someone else will say 'MURST'"
Of every game
I can think of that's lame
This one is surely the worst

Anonymous said...

Ron Paul? HA! Puh-leeeeaaze.

Rob Dawg said...

Anon,
Use a handle and read more carefully. The image says Libertarian, that's part of the joke. And there was no discussion of the candidates only how they are being spun in the media. Perhaps you meant?: "Ron Paul? Treated fairly in the media? HA! Puh-leeeeaaze."

lurker said...

I am a third generation Republican. I am going to vote Democratic in the coming National Election on general principle. Ron Paul is the only candidate that might get me to change my mind. As long as the Republicans are sucking up to the social conservatives at the expense of America, they need to be rejected.

R-Boy said...

Ron Paul FTW!

Or maybe Bloomberg will win enough states to muck up the EC.

A Mortgage Broker Named Swaby
Who spouted lies profusely
The Bubble Won't Burst
But the Stock Market's Wurst!
He's a hypocrite absolutely!

Anonymous said...

@ Rob Dawg,
No, I was making fun of the idea of Ron paul as a viable candidate. Puh-leeaze.

You can discuss the media spin (I agree with you BTW) but my point was about Paul.

not anonymous said...

@ Rob Dawg,
Sorry next time I'll use a handle

not anonymous said...

Holy HECK this place is dead. Almost as dead as casey's sex life.

Good luckers, Dawg - looks like you'll need it!

walt526 said...

A 2 year election cycle is ridiculous. Interestingly though, I think that this is to the detriment of the early front-runners. By the time January rolls around, "Clinton fatigue" will return to the American lexicon.

Which gives me some hope that the best qualified candidate (clearly Bill Richardson) rather than the top fundraiser or best campaigner has a shot (albeit a long one) at being elected president.

Although I'm probably being overly optimistic in that respect...

lurker said...

Casey brings more posts because
(1) Its easy to be snarky
(2) We have a reasonably unified position on him so posting on him is both safe and funny.

These other subjects are complex subjects where people have mixed emotions and the subjects are more important. People are less likely to post something they 66% agree with but don't have a better answer, than a snarky Nigel comment.

Sprezzatura said...

Ron Paul's history as a supporter of white supremacist groups and his alignment with far-right "Survivalist" groups in the 1990s is more than enough reason to drop him from any serious consideration for President.

lulubear said...

I was a Ron Paul supporter until I found out he is anti-choice/pro-life. I find it hard to back a republican/libertarian that takes that stance. That rather hot button issue aside, he does make some wonderful points. Especially his views on the Fair Tax.

R-Boy said...

Sprez,

Where? I've not heard a peep out of that anywhere. He had a newsletter thing but that was way overblown, wikipedia summarizes it well enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Alleged_racial_remarks

In an April 2007 column on his official House of Representatives website,[65] Paul criticizes racism, saying:

"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist."[65]

lurker said...

All of the other GOP candidates support of fundy's, their concentration on spreading fear as a tool to win elections, and their reality impaired world views; are more than enough reason to drop them from any serious consideration for president

R-Boy said...

I dont agree with Paul on the abortion issue either, but I do give him credit for being very consistent throughout the years (He is also anti-death penalty).

Jefe said...

Bill Richardson is far from well-qualified, and he's looked like a total noob as of late on the media circuit and in the news. Stick a fork in him.

Anonymous said...

Hey Dawg Fuck, how's it hangin'?

I'd like to pound the living shit out of ya.

lulubear said...

Didn't realize about the death-penalty, R-boy you're right at least that does show some consistency in his views. As for how the media is treating RP, I rarely hear anything about him outside of the blogsphere. Maybe a product of my location, Urban NC. I'm also waiting to hear what Fred Thompson will do, granted I'm too young to remember his work during the Nixon years, but I have agreed with some of his "talking points" at speeches dealing with the death of individuality and the rule of law.

R-Boy said...

No problemo LuluBear. I've followed Ron Paul for years and I'd like to think I know somewhat where he stands, which is why Sprezz's comments alluding to racism are really suprising.

Ron's a very interesting fellow. His deal with the Repubs is hilarious. The folks in his district love him, he gets re-elected either without opposition or by exceptionally wide margins

I don't hold out much hope for any mainstream candidates. Too much money in politics these days. Too short a time horizon to be held responsible.

Sprezzatura said...

In 1996, Ron Paul was one of only two candidates endorsed by Christian Identity leader Larry Pratt (who had previously worked with David Duke, and resigned from Pat Buchanan's team when his Identity role became public). Paul refused to repudiate the endorsement.

David Duke is also an ardent Ron Paul supporter.

Now, one could say that judging a candidate by his supporters is not fair. However, when people who embody far-right, racist and antisemitic hate groups endorse you, it's generally a prudent move to step up and disavow the support lest you be seen as welcoming it.

Paul has not done so.

R-Boy said...

I don't think that's very fair Sprezz, considering Paul's public statements.

I judge folks by their walk and their talk, not by who walks behind them

Anonymous said...

Your vote for president for the coming four years should be looked at more as a vote for two supreme court justices for the next twenty.

Hey look I'm anonymous again.

R-Boy said...

I mean, seriously, that's like judging Steve Serin because he won't disown his brother despite his brother's actions.

If you want to claim RP as racist, you're going to have to provide evidence from his actual behavior.

Often times I see fringe groups endorse candidates. Most of the time, they're so minor that the candidate in question just ignores them.

M. SINGH said...

GENTLEMEN,

I am entralled about the prospective candidacy of Sen. Fred Thompson. As you know, if elected president, he will be able to solve all of America's problems in sixty-minute easy-to-digest episodes.

My only request is that he make Sam Waterston his attorney general. Something tells me that TD Ameritrade is hampering his artistic license.

I remain,

M. SINGH

Dimes said...

Did I fall into a wormhole somewhere along the way? Is the election any time soon? I'm already SO sick of the whole thing, and the primaries aren't for at least six months.
Yuck.

flailing forward said...

You can't judge a book by looking at a couple of people who bought it. And Ron Paul going out of his way to denounce David Duke just gives Duke attention he neither deserves or would have otherwise. If it weren't for people bringing him up all the time as a convenient boogeyman to protest against, Duke would have disappeared from the political landscape nearly 15 years ago.

lulubear said...

At M. Singh
Jerry Orbach would have made a heck of an Attorney General.

Anonymous said...

Hey Dawg Fuck, how's it hangin'?

I'd like to pound the living shit out of ya.


You mean from behind, Nigel? Rob doesn't swing that way.

Metroplexual said...

Ron Paul was interesting in his day when he was in the 1992 race as a Libertarian. Back then his ideas would have worked well but now I don't think so. I might get to meet him on the 13th at the Colbert Report. I saw his monday appearance on the Daily Show and found him to be charming and intelligent but his views may be too limiting to fix the mess we are in and dare I say it...a bit simplistic. Although the part about following the constitution has appeal, since we have all but abandoned it over the last 5 years.

If anyone has an interesting question to fire at him I would be interested.

Stephanie J. said...

@Dimes
And the mudslinging commercials haven't even started yet.

Yay. :|

Tesla said...

"Good luckers, Dawg - looks like you'll need it! "


It's not like he'll be sleeping in a Jetta or anything if he doesn't exceed 100 comments per post...

Stephanie J. said...

I think they should take all the current candidates (and current government) across the board, stack them like cordwood into a large rocket, and shoot them into the sun.

Then I should take over the US; and subsequently the world as a tyrannical dictator; and force all men wear kilts at all times.

Seriously: I'm a lib-left. Ron Paul has good qualities; but I wouldn't vote for him. I'm still on the fence who I'd vote for. More thought, watch more debates, and then watch whoever gets elected change completely when in office.

Metroplexual said...

I meant the 1988 race.

Stephanie J. said...

Who's this person with a hard-on for Rob? Kind of stalkery and creepy.

I'm English said...

Sweeeet

IAFF.com looks like it moved up one position on the Google 'foreclosure' results page. Currently #6 behind:

www.foreclosure.com/
www.hud.gov/foreclosure/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreclosure -
www.foreclosures.com/
www.foreclosurefreesearch.com/

All the 'sweet media' may have moved it up? Googlebot last visited on the 2nd and now shows the "I'm Sorry" message in cache. But soon the spider will find a blank page . . . be interesting to see how Google reacts to that . . .

Itsallgood -- unless you're Casey . . .

Sprezzatura said...

There's a full reprint of a Ron Paul article on the LA Riots in Google Groups, which is a reasonably non-partisan source.

1000 a weak said...

Obama/Richardson is the ticket to returning this country to greatness. Regardless of what you think about Obama's "experience" leading, he is a proponent of a transparent government, which is 180 degrees from the utter shite we've had to put up with for the last 6 years.

Kerriella said...

I normally hate the 2 year headstart trend but this time around I find I am actually welcoming it. ANYTHING that reminds me that Bush only has a year and a half to go before we are free of him is a good thing. Unfortunately, I pity anyone that does end up as our next president. They have a lot of clean up to do.

Metroplexual said...

1000 a weak,

I think richardson is definite for a VP position. UNfortunately Hillary is going to steamroll him due to people wanting a roforming of the administration in Bill C.'s likeness. Back when government was staffed by competents, not chimpetents.

Stephanie J. said...

Chimpetents LOL

Sprezzatura said...

Oh, and even better: a full transcript of a 2004 Ron Paul interview. Here's an excerpt:

First question: do you believe there are secret forces at work that are attempting to dismantle the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

Congressman Ron Paul - I don't know what the best word is, but secret is pretty good. They're certainly not known to a lot of people; it's actually what their doing. But then again, it's not absolute secrecy. If you look around you can usually get the information. There was a time when nobody even knew who was a member of the CFR or the Trilateral Commission. I think it's a bad sign that they're not as secret as they used to be. They're bolder now. But there is an agenda.


Sorry, but anybody who seriously believes that the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are part of a secret conspiracy to undermine the US Constitution is a few cards short of a deck.

Dan said...

Though Ron Paul is Pro-Choice, he is also against letting the government make that choice for all people.

He is against roe v. wade, only because he doesn't think the government can make such decisions.

BJ said...

@Stephanie J

Then I should take over the US; and subsequently the world as a tyrannical dictator; and force all men wear kilts at all times.

No problem, you might find me here

@I'm English
I covered that issue is a earlier post. The last complete page will be kept until it is completely timed out. If you want to flush things through Google, you have to update the page with something different first (to force an update and clear on Google's cache).

flailing forward said...

@ Sprezz, on the Google Groups thing
Ouch, some of that was pretty racist. Does he often show that "it's us whiteys against THEM (p.s. asians you have temporarily been granted whitey status)" side?

I do agree that the political establishment had a share in the responsibility for the riots because of the political climate they fostered.

Anonymous said...

we at EN shout down all opposition. oh, and pick a friggin name or we will make fun of you.

only pussies are anon. we have names so we cant be pussies. har har.

if you are not in our rod dog ass kissing group then you are against us. and we hate you.

GameOver said...

I agree with R-Boy that Sprezz's comment about racism & Ron Paul.

I hadn't heard that and it DOES concern me. However I guess I'd like to hear RP's response to those accusations...

I like the non-casey, discussions. The Ubernation was around before snowflake and will be for a long time. Thanks Dawg!

Benoit™ said...

Slightly off-topic (Casey again), but does anyone have a CarFax membership where they can get full details on a VIN?

Over at Caseypedia™, a search of EN turned up an anonymous comment alleging Casey's VIN to be 3VWPB81H7WM273192 ... a CarFax search turns up that it belongs to a 1998 Jetta, but I can't see any accident reports and whatnot. Any help? :-)

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

Ron Paul looks good to me, but whatever happens Hillary needs to loose(tm).
She supports CODEX and wants to take away our vitamins and make it against the law to get vitamins without Medical insurance, she wants to make it ILLEGAL to go without Medical insurance and to use holistic or alternative medicine, she is a dangerous socialist imo.
:::::She takes a breath........::::
Obama has the same ideas, I understand,
Please get involved politically and vote Libertarian.

Anonymous said...

your mom.

R-Boy said...

@StephJ

<--Half-Scottish
<--Owns a Kilt

:P

R-Boy said...

Flailing and Sprezz.

RP talked about that. He didn't write it, and he blamed himself for it appearing in his newsletter. Its on his wikipedia page. He's not happy that it happened.

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

If anyone has an interesting question to fire at him I would be interested.
________________
@ Metroplexual,
Yes.
He thinks the Federal Bank has too much power or is not a good idea. How would he change the system? What are his plans for the Fed Bank and our current Fiat currency based dollar if elected?

Sprezzatura said...

R-Boy: With all due respect, that's bogus. And it's certianly not "straight talk". It's more like weasel words.

The newsletter went out under his name. If he didn't read the copy first, he should have. He owns the words in it -- either because he wrote them, or he bought and paid for them to be written for his own purposes. To claim that he's somehow not responsible for what went out in an 8-page newsletter entited "The Ron Paul Political Report" is like a politician saying, "That thing I said? I don't really believe it -- it's just something my speechwriter cooked up."

I'd respect him more if he came right out and said,, 'Yes, that was in my newsletter, but I went too far in my arguments and I feel really bad about it now". That would be straight talk. But to say "gee, that wasn't me, I blame my staff" is like Casey Serin blaming his problems on the banks who loaned him the money to buy his houses.

Rob Dawg said...

if you are not in our rod dog ass kissing group then you are against us...

Snigger. You'd think being able to read would be a prerequisite to being able to post. This "We" you speak of. I'd rather rather try herding cats in a rainstorm than seek consensus from this group. About the only thing we have in common is that we all do not suffer fools. Not gladly, not at all. Come over to the dark side anon, join the haterz™. You know you want to, you see the power, your transformation is almost complete. Go on, make a snarky comment about the SLC mortgage broker who sold all his property in early 2005 and spent the next 2 years talking up the market. See? It is easy and fun. Try something harder. Say taking a Robert Toll quote from a year ago and one from today. Good, good... now use the power of the google, the google is everywhere it indexes us all some can access the power of the google. Try, pull up an image in your mind and now on the screen. Ah young apprentice, very good. Your training complete it is almost. Do your powers invoke the need for mind bleach? Yessss. Yesss. You are a haterz™. Take your place in the Caseypedia and follow the path.

Metroplexual said...

FMW,

Good one, especially in light of BB's acknowledgement of the Feds irrelevance in how it controls the economy anyway. The Saudis control our economy now according to Jubran.

Sprezzatura said...

To follow up -- I can understand why people like Ron Paul. Americans love candidates who will discard the usual political rhetoric and 'tell it like it is". We're so used to the false language of politicians that if someone comes along and talks like a human being, he's going to stand out just for that reason alone.

However, you have to listen not only to how things are said, but also to the substance. If you find yourself saying, "gee, I don't really agree with Paul's view on X, and Y, but gosh, he's such a straight talker then I'm going to support him anyway" then that should be a big warning sign to you. Elections have consequences, and where people stand on issues matters deeply.

In the interests of full disclosure, I should say that I am a center-left Democrat, but I have also voted for some Republicans in my time. I do my best to judge candidates on their positions and their worldview fairly. There are Republicans I could vote for. Ron Paul is just not one of them.

Rob Dawg said...

I wasn't going to talk politics but rather the business of politics but thread drift happens so...

Right now Hilly owns the process. If no clear frontrunner emerges on the D side she and King Bill will cash in their favors. Does Richardson balance the ticket? Hilly on top (don't go there) locks CA, NY, IL and most of the rest of BosWash for a huge electoral advantage. Across the aisle Romney or McCain nominations could put California in play. Understand no D can get elected without CA and if they have to fight for CA rather than just hit us up for campaign money they are bound to lose several battleground states in the process. Obama does not have the experience to win over the middle ground. He might be popular with the Ds who are paying attention now but he cannot make inroads in the middle ground. R Paul has the same issue and the uncomfortable prospect to some of a weak Presidency.

Romney/Paul or Guli/Paul are balanced tickets. Put actor Thompson in any of those combinations as well. Back on the Ds right now anyone except Richardson garnering the nom is going to end up like McGovern in the gen.

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

From Richard Again,

As if Gonu was not enough...

Turkey takes 50,000 troops into N. Iraq.

Got gas?

http://www.debka.com/
___________________________

Turkey invades Iraq and OIL Prices are up again, and Ganu has only just gotten started.

@ Metroplexual
Glad you liked my question, (:
If he answers it, I would be very eager to know what he says.
Did you leave the Government to become a Political Reporter?
Just kidding, but haw to you have access to RP? Good Stuff that.

The Original Kevin™ said...

Clinton/O'Bama v. Guliani/McCain.

Bank on it......

R-Boy said...

Of course, both parties get shafted if Bloomberg throws 500 mil in to run.

Sprezzatura said...

Bloomberg is one of the aforementioned Republicans that I would consider voting for.

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

McCain wants to fine bloggers if anyone posts anti government opinions
on the thread. He also wants to control and censor the INTERNET!
Another commie, IMO!!!!!!!!!

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

FYI, if anyone is interested I am a fallen Republican, capitalist, tree hugger, advocate of smaller government and personal freedoms, without trampling on the freedoms of others.
No one file in that cabinet for me.

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

@ Sprezz,
Yep, me too.

Rob Dawg said...

Bloomberg/Forbes now that's the ticket!

I can see the fatal mistake of young Obama throwing in with the Clintons happening but I hope it does not happen for all concerned. All the Ds need do is look down ticket in 2008 and understand they also lose the majority in both houses with that ticket. Hilly is too politically smart for that. Then again I thought she was too smart to run for the NY Senate seat so wtf do I know?

The Original Kevin™ said...

Bloomberg wants to take my guns away - hell no to Bloomy.

Sprezzatura said...

Bloomberg / Richardson would be very interesting.

Metroplexual said...

FMW,

I will be in an audience of about 80 people seeing him interviewed by Stephen Colbert. Prior to the show the host and sometimes guest talk to the audience. They seat you at 5:15 and the show begins at 6:30 so they chat you up and get you involved. It is an outside chance but since RP is such a hot topic I put it up as a possibility.

flailing forward said...

I'm not really a fan of either Giules or Bloomie, but I'd feel better about voting for them than Hillary. That woman has the middle of the fence planted so far up her ass it's ridiculous. Pick a freaking stance on anything and stick to it already. And I'm (usually) a democrat for cashback's sake.

One thing I don't understand is the Bill Clinton hatred that still always pops up in political discussions (not here). After six years of Dubya and Dick, I'm nostalgic for the old days. At least you knew Bill was too busy playing his sax and getting hummers to actually screw up the country too bad.

Anyway, my money is on the Sputnik/Ogg ticket.
poopin' for the people

Metroplexual said...

Richardson would be my choice for Prez. Too bad the fix is in in the party. He is the only one with an energy plan that makes sense.

king friday the 13th said...

It'll be interesting if this is the election where

1960 is regarded as the first election where Television has a major influence --- some argue Nixon's appearence on TV during the debates cost him the election. Well, that and the Daley machine in Chicago, but still...

I think 2008 may be the first election where an Internet grassroots movement takes place, and a 3rd party candidate with limited resources actually stands a chance of winning the election, without completely whoring themselves to corporate interests.

Then, I wake up.

Lou Minatti said...

Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.
RonPaulRonPaulRonPaulRonPaulRonPaul.

On the national level, Ron Paul is an unelectable dingbat. Ya'll think Ron Paul is popular in his district? Clue: He gets reelected only because he inserted an (R) after his name and he represents a strong Republican district. If it was nearly a 50/50 D/R district, he wouldn't stand a chance.

This will be his last term. He won't be reelected. The actions of his supporters (many of whom spam online polls, issue threats, are 9/11 revisionists and/or "Jews control Congress" weirdos) have give Ron Paul more unwanted local exposure than he's ever had. He has become the laughing stock of local talk radio over the past 2 months. He's toast. Done. The Casey Serin of the 2008 presidential campaign.

Joe Dirt said...

Rob DAWG FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Akubi said...

Late to the party due to looser W-2 crap.
Although I'm registered with one of those fringe parties, there's no way I'm going to throw my vote away so another dumbshit administration can further screw up this country - if that's at all possible.

Metroplexual said...

Rob,

That balance the ticket thing does not matter as much anymore. The south is not as relevant as it was. It is the West that is relevant, AZ and NV are turning blue, the whole pacific coastline is just about a done deal.

lurker said...

Rob @11:16

I just don't see California in play. McCain is still pro Iraq, and the liberals are not going to forgive him for talking at Liberty U. Romney is saying whatever his audience wants to hear and it will bite him big in the end. Guli might be competitive in California, but I think California is so disgusted with the national GOP that it is solid blue for the next election. I don't have any love for Hillary but I will accept her if I have to.

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

Akubi,
if that's at all possible.
Count me in. How do we do that?

Rob Dawg said...

Metro, yes. Remember I said it was only necessary for CA to be in play not that the Rs had to wrest it from the Ds. That said, balancing the ticket still matters. Less than in the past? Maybe, that's a call I'm not ready to make but I won't argue against it either. I do know that Romney has been paying a lot of attention to red California. I didn't bother with the handshake last October, yawn. The picture was "free" aka part of the 4 digit donations so I do have the nice 8x10 soemwhere. Instead of pressing flesh I picked out the staffer floating the crowd to get the scoop. Hey, he did it in Massachusetts. The Dems are scared that they might have to work for the 55 votes in their pocket.

Uzbecki Durak said...

Nigel gets Sweet Media in USA Today!!! (Cited at Housing Bubble Blog)

"Others, like Nigel Swaby, a 36-year-old mortgage broker in Salt Lake City, are reluctant stock investors. Fearing the prices on two investment properties he owned in Salt Lake City could decline, he sold them in 2005 and invested the money in stocks.

Swaby wants to get back into real estate and has been hunting for homes to buy, but feels prices are still too inflated. "There aren't a ton of deals out there," he says. So his money sits in a high-yield savings account, a diversified stock mutual fund and four stocks: Procter & Gamble, Nortel Networks, Revlon and United Airlines. "I want a higher rate of return than a savings account, and stocks are it, until the real estate opportunity presents itself."

Uh, Nigel, I thought that it was a great time to buy real estate in Salt Lake. You were selling two years ago?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/housing/2007-06-06-real-stocks-usat_N.htm

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

lurker,
Hillary and McCain are the most dangerous of the bunch, I reckon.

Stephanie J. said...

@FMW & Akubi
If I may please refer you back to my rocket into the sun comment.

I think that would work.

(the whole tyrant dictatorship thing aside of course)

flailing forward said...

Ahem. Rob Dawg and Steph J are pomopolous asshelos.

(I just saw the trollfest I missed on the Homey post. I lerned sum new wurdz)

Rob Dawg said...

Join my Apathy Party. Anyone who doesn't vote is assumed to be in favor of the Apathy candidate. If you never even register your nonvote counts double. Last time my candidacy was disqualified because I filed on time. I'll try or at least I intend to not make that mistake again.

FlyingMonkeyWarrior said...

flailing forward,
Is the hotdog and hamburger graph on your blog the real deal or a photo shop?
Seriously.

Sprezzatura said...

I do not think Clinton is a lock at all. Talk to some non-Internet focused Democrats and you'll be surprised by how many of them don't like her. And the netroots doesn't much like her either.

Rob Dawg said...

Asshelo: n. [org internet collq.]

Someone so bright that even sunshine shoots out their butt.

Rob Dawg said...

Sprezz, the general population would never accept Hilly da PrezShe is far too polarizing. The question is whether the D Party knows this and is willing to prevent her entering the general election.

walt526 said...

"So (Nigel's) money sits in a high-yield savings account, a diversified stock mutual fund and four stocks: Procter & Gamble, Nortel Networks, Revlon and United Airlines."

And he's been pumping up the SLC real estate?

Like the Bush or Chimp montage, can one of the Caseypedia editors set up a Nigel or Dog Shit page?

Metroplexual said...

Sprezz,

I am one of those middle of the road dems who despise her. However if it is between her and Rudy I will pinch my nose and hate myself for a good 10 minutes. Anything but the current policies, and apparently the GOP are already throwing chimpy "under the bus". People on Faux news are already disparaging his policies. This is just the beginning of more distancing from chimpy by the GOP.

walt526 said...

"Sprezz, the general population would never accept Hilly da PrezShe is far too polarizing. The question is whether the D Party knows this and is willing to prevent her entering the general election."

Those of us paying attention certainly do.

I want to create a bumper sticker:

RICHARDSON: 2008
OBAMA: 2016?
CLINTON: 1992

I'll get around to creating it one day...

flailing forward said...

@ FMW
The graph is fake. But the Nigel quote is real. Even though I'll get yelled at for causing scroll wheel fatigue, here is a refresher:

Nigel explains housing for noobs

"Consider this parallel - When I was growing up, I could buy a McDonalds hamburger for 25 cents. No matter how much I hope, pray or wish for hamburger prices to come down, I will never see that level of hamburger pricing again. The same applies to housing."

Stephanie J. said...

@FF
Hamburger Pricing has been steadily rising in par with the increase of the volume of Hamburglar thefts each year. Get with the program. There is also a problem with some of the Hamburger refineries in the central states.

Re: "pomopolous asshelos" ~

LOL ~ Sounds like a Caseypedia item.

walt526 said...

"Consider this parallel - When I was growing up, I could buy a McDonalds hamburger for 25 cents. No matter how much I hope, pray or wish for hamburger prices to come down, I will never see that level of hamburger pricing again. The same applies to housing."

Yes dipshit, you are describing inflation. Just like the McDonald's hamburger, property increases in nominal value over time, but depreciates in real terms. Which is what everyone with an IQ above room temperature understands about real estate and doesn't need your 8th grade student explanation to explain it. Also, everyone who understands basic economics either got out of the housing market earlier this decade or was not dependent on a historically implausible pricing bubble to continue indefinitely.

Idiot.

Stephanie J. said...

Nigel; he's priceless. Hamburgers. You can't make this shit up. ::sigh::

Stephanie J. said...

The hamburger pricing crisis may cause us to go to war with Argentina so we can tap into their beef reserves.

lurker said...

Hillary is to polarizing to be a successful president. I can see the Dems electing her to get back at the GOP and because her hardball playing prevents any other Dem from being the alternate.

I am hoping for Obama (not because he is good, but because he is not bad and is not polarizing) I would really like Gore, but I don't think it is realistic at this point

Sprezzatura said...

Handy-dandy inflation calculator

Stephanie J. said...

@Lurker
I'm with you on that one. I'm still on teh fence about Obama, but I think b/w him & Billary, I think it's the lesser of two (fairly) evils. I like Gore too--but he seems determined not to run.

flailing forward said...

I would love to see a female prez, but not Hillary. I'm thinking more of a Stephanie J type, who would go over and kick Congress in the balls if they were pissing her off. (Realistically, it would probably only be possible to kick the Senate in the balls. The House could take up to a week to rack properly.)

Metroplexual said...

Rob,

As you may know my BiL studies demographics of the nation pretty darn closely. He sees demographics as destiny his analysis points toward a "D" populace in tghe SW. As for CA, I don't think Romney has a chance. Aahnoold is about as far right as they will go now.

As for working for the 55 you may be right, I have seen stranger things.

Stephanie J. said...

Romney is Satan. Don't let that Ken-doll look fool you.

Barack Obama said...

Vote for me!

The Original Kevin™ said...

Stpehanie - if you vote for Obamamamma, I would seriously have to reconsider us....

Ahhhhh who am I kidding... I Wish I Could Quit You!!!™

flailing forward said...

Whoa now, Gore? Are you not aware that Gore and the entire global warming MYTH is a front for communism? (This has been proven by Smithosity at SDCIA, who is afraid Gore will make him install double paned windows on his rental properties.)

Stephanie J. said...

Nah. I'll wait a few more months before I decide.

I may just vote for that guy who talks to himself behind the 7/11. I think his platform of garbage-rummaging and public urination is extremely creditable.

Metroplexual said...

Hey Rob,

Are you in Dornan's old district?

Rob Dawg said...

Metro,
I a great many things I also depend on demographics to shape my opininos of the future. When working to get locals elected i do some wierd sh!t.

Indeed urban voting patterns in the Soutwest and West are blue but they are also not as important in getting votes at the polls so it is still far more competetive than the demographics and registration would indicate. The SW and W also have very low loyalty. Thus Da Governator as you note. Now, ask yourself. A reverese carpetbagging Mormon Republican winning the MA governorship? And that is more likely than him winning CA?

Rob Dawg said...

You mean the fake Mexigals new district? NFW. I'm in a red county sir and don't you forget it. ;-)

Liberals to the left, Liberals to the right Ventura County 0.8% Republican and on the coast. The last bastion. Well okay, the SLO anf SD counties as well.

http://images.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/elections2004/_images/2004countymap-final2.gif

Metroplexual said...

Romney when questioned said...

Q: What do you dislike most about America?

A: Gosh. I love America. I'm afraid I'm going to be at a loss for words because America for me is not just our rolling mountains and hills and streams and great cities. It's the American people. And the American people are the greatest people in the world. What makes America the greatest nation in the world is the heart of the American people: hardworking, innovative, risk-taking, God- loving, family-oriented American people. It's that optimism we thank Ronald Reagan for. Thank you, Mrs. Reagan, for opening up this place in his memory for us. It is that optimism about this great people that makes this the greatest nation on earth.
---------------------------------

I am afraid he might just be too whitebread. I bet he is a nice guy
but I don't believe that there is nothing he hates about America.

Stephanie J. said...

::humming a patriotic tune to Romney's speech::

Casey Fannnnn said...

The winner of the presidency is 99% moot unless a non-DLC dem candidate wins and manages to dodge a flurry of knives in the back.

OMG said...

Stephanie J must be in rehab. Her comments are only half Casey now. But her views are still "blond"! Looks like the dawgs keep you around for a lil T&A. But they've only seen the T, where is the A?
We, that think that some of you are morons are not Nigel or trolling. We are just tired of the Casey rhetoric.

Stephanie J. said...

OMG wants me.

Stephanie J. said...

My posts have *always* been less than half-Casey; the other half have been about ME... Being a shameless non-blone attention whore. But fear not... If I ever do show my A.. you can kiss it, darling.

::SMOOCH::

flailing forward said...

"We are just tired of the Casey rhetoric...

even though we don't ever bother to comment on the topic."