Thursday, June 14, 2007

Reap the Whirlwind

Is anyone familiar with the phrase "I double dawg dare ya?"


[Start of announcement]
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Please be advised concerning the matters that follow hereinafter, I have CC’d both Mr. Stewart (to what I believe may be his email address) and your friend Nigel Swaby. Mr. Stewart because the matters discussed have bearing upon him, and Mr. Swaby under the hope some sense may be dealt to your benefit – and because you have enjoined Nigel in our most recent email exchanges (again thwarting your protections under Cal. Evidence Code §1152). If I am in error regarding Mr. Stewart’s email address, you have my express and limited consent to forward a copy of this writing to him -- and him only.

Having made such clear...

Be advised that I have posted what you claim to be “copyrighted” material to my primary website, as you’ve been previously advised. The URL is; here. This material shall remain open and available for public inspection, download, and use for a limited (albeit unspecified) time. As noted on the subject webpage the dissemination of said material is in protest to failed conduct on the part of several lenders to your regard; and, may be material subject matter in an ongoing Federal Investigation for criminal conspiracy. Use the latter information as you see fit, believing or discounting my statement regarding investigatory efforts.

Moreover; given that both you and Mr. Stewart have seem keen to purport public challenges to nonexistent publication rights, in that you shall "aggressively be pursuing any Web site that has our private content posted on it.” I presume a Summons & Complaint shall be forthcoming naming me and my firm as Defendants? To this end, kindly advise counsel I shall accept service of Summons & Complaint by Acknowledgement pursuant to CCP §415.30.

Lastly because you have been given every reasonable and good faith measure to correct your unlawful conduct, and have failed miserably to desist said wrongs perpetrated against myself and the people of California. And because California venue controls all relative subject matter and actionable substance. If you or Mr. Stewart do not make good upon your public threat to engage suit? I may well oblige any time after 21 June 2007 as you’ve been previously advised.

Remember Casey, one reaps what is sown; whirlwinds or otherwise. Act accordingly, there may still be time to adjust your conduct and resolve matters peaceable. As a condition to same, however, IAmFacingForeclosure.com shall be required to permanently adjust it's market focus.
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[end of announcement]

Okay, I know. Everyone who didn't scrub their eyes out from the picture with mind bleach and wire brush was ripping them from their sockets reading the lawyer stuff. Everyone gets it right? I'm the farthest thing from a lawyer but it looks like the recordings are not copyright protected because they are evidence? And so it looks like there's a dare being thrown down. Somehow I think it is like the contestants in the picture above. They aren't going to win. They've already lost by even agreeing to playing the game. BTW, I have a side bet with some haterz™ as to how long it takes some enterprising dawg to pshop the letters on their helmets. Go!

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Anonymous said...

first

Anonymous said...

3 in one day! is that a record?

talk about random. i just hopped on the computer after dinner.

I like the post. let's see if casey or Marty follow through.

Anonymous said...

THOSE TWO AGAIN??????

Anonymous said...

Thirst! Wurst!

Hey Dawg, you botched the linky.

Anonymous said...

Well, I decided not to chance the earlier downloads, but with all that fancy schmancy legalize... I am going to go to Casey Serin "no need to read this contract" mode and hit the big Chromium-plated pistol-gripped download level on my PDP-11...

Dolph said...

5th?

Anonymous said...

Let me say MURST !

Anonymous said...

level = lever

(I'll added it to Caseypedia later.)

Anonymous said...

"Casey & Marty's MP3 Public Resource
(A Free Public Research Service -- right click on link to download)"




PUBLIC RESOURCE!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Anonymous said...

I B listenin':

Book-n-Theme Series... the Foreclosure Code...

Sprezzatura said...

Rob, that link to queuetrac.com is broken.

Anonymous said...

And Casey hits the mike...


[*system entering validation mode*... checking for lock-jaw enunciation...CHECK.

Kiyo ref within 15 seconds... CHECK.

"passive income" mention w/in 25 seconds... CHECK.

Free-form self-serving entrepreneur tales... CHECK.]


"SYSTEM MESSAGE: VALIDATED -- CONFIRMED, CASEY SERIN"

lawnmower man said...

I believe Mr Villasenor has just served young Casey an ace.

Anonymous said...

Okay, so I'm assuming this is from LMP to fliptard, pubtard and koitard.

Getting past the legalese, I'm assuming this is basically LMP saying that the MP3 files are evidence in a crime and therefore should be made available to the public and especially to the lenders who have failed to prosecute.

What do the specific law codes cited mean?

'Tis a bit confusing, as I'm not a lawyer. But, considering that fliptard isn't either, I'm assuming that upon receipt of the announcement, he will quickly find himself sitting in a warm, brown pool of post-digestive Australian wheatgrass...

segfault said...

I'm not aware of any doctrine that evidence isn't subject to copyright (and don't think that the legalese suggests that).

It is brilliant in that it challenges Casey and Marty to put up or shut up. If they sue LossMitPro, Casey and Marty's entire course of conduct (beginning with the mortgage fraud) could be entered into evidence before the court, as it is necessary to explain the complaint.

I suppose LossMitPro could take the initiative and sue Casey and Marty for defamation. It is not enough to allege that Casey has committed mortgage fraud, and as a citizen, it offends you...

If LossMitPro has some sort of contract or assignment of right with one of Casey's lenders, he would then have concrete monetary harm, which would be a much better case than something subjective like defamation. In my state, at least, if you file a civil action against someone, you can request in the complaint that the judge certify the matter to the DA's office for a full criminal investigation. Sweet!

Anonymous said...

Uhhhh;

Rob Dawg, shouldn't there be some kind of hazard warning appended to these things?

I don't think OSHA has the necessary testing equipment and procedures to measure the potential harm to humans from listening to over 200 MB of raw and unedited Fliptard Mental Effluvia.

Wouldn't want to damage the innocent, huh?

Anonymous said...

SFW...

Casey spotted down under!
http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=caseycameoiq5.jpg

lawnmower man said...

I'm assuming this is from LMP to fliptard, pubtard and koitard.

Quite so. However, note that Nigel is an observer, not a target -- to paraphrase, the stuff about Mr. Swaby is saying "you dragged Nigel into the conversation, Casey, so I'm copying him in the hope that he can talk some sense into you."

Anonymous said...

segfault:

"If LossMitPro has some sort of contract or assignment of right with one of Casey's lenders, he would then have concrete monetary harm, which would be a much better case than something subjective like defamation."

Hmmm, buy Casey's marker, and then break Casey's ballz.

THAT's been done before.

Usually works, as I recall.

Can even be done serially.

Anonymous said...

In my opinion, all you fuckers need to call the DoJ to save your asses. Everyone who has listened to the tapes or read IAFF needs to turn the fliptard in. Not I, of course, I am just reading the hearsay :)

Under federal law there is a crime called "misprision" of a felony, which applies to a person who has actual knowledge of the commission of a felony and doesn't report it to the authorities.

Also, a person can be held criminally liable as an "accessory after the fact" if she has knowledge that a crime was committed and assists the offender to hinder his apprehension, trial or punishment. You can also be guilty of aiding and abetting a crime if you help another person in committing the crime, with knowledge of the criminal nature of the act they're committing.

Additionally, a person who agrees with another person to commit a crime, after which the other person commits a criminal act to further their agreement, may be guilty of conspiracy.

Anonymous said...

I have heard its illegal to threaten a lawsuit then not sue.

Which may be why threatening legal letters use the words 'may' and that type of conditional language.

So if Tony Soprano says "IM GOING TO SUE YOU" then he doesnt, then you can sue HIM for making a false threat to sue??? IANAL, maybe someone here is....

Anonymous said...

Most people who get employed in technology as a wage slave sign a statement as part of their terms of employment that states all patents, work product and etc that the employee generates during the course of their work is assigned to the company. Makes sense. It's their 'house', their 'ball', you work FOR them. Well, except, apparently, for young Casey. He claims he had some kewl ideas while plying his mad web skillz, and a dispute arose over who owned what... Casey decides it would be "sweet" at that time to leave and look for independent contracting, that sort of thing.

And, while I am typing this, he already has launched another tale of woe about not checking a renter's background check...

Sheesh.

Does anything that Murse Boi ever tries NOT end in a steaming pile of human refuse?

Buttplugz said...

How do we know it's MossMitFoo?

Anonymous said...

I'll bet Casey is livid right about now!

Sweet.

Hey Casey, it's a shady area. Baaaaaa HHAHHAHHAHHA

segfault said...

Cal. Evid. Code §1152 is usually referred to as a claim settlement offer rule--if someone has offered to settle a pending claim with you, you can't introduce the amount of the settlement offer into court... Subsection (c)(2) might be relevant to Casey because it says that a preexisting debt may be revived by, say, a promise to "repay every dirty penny."

The CCP §415.30 part is just saying upfront that he will consent to service of summons via first-class mail rather than through the use of a process server (usually the sheriff)--it makes him easier to find.

lawnmower man said...

How do we know it's MossMitFoo?

Because we know Queuetrac is his firm.

segfault said...

What TV show is the horrifying image from? Link looks like it goes to a Swedish website... Is KC in Sweden now wearing one of those Borat outfits?

Anonymous said...

Armchair lawyering aside...

LMP has basically fired a broadside to Casey saying:

1: Put up or shut up.
2: Take your copyright claim and shove it.
3: More pain coming.

LMP is fighting a holding action. He is forcing Snowflake to either take him to court or back down.

For all who can stand it, keep listening to the tapes, and keep posting the timestamp of every admission of guilt you hear.

Anonymous said...

I hope queuetrac can handle the load if/when cnet, WSJ, FOX pick this up.

Anonymous said...

@segfault: it's a Japanese TV show; I recall seeing it there once or twice. Can't recall what its title is. Something to do with magnets, hence the N and S on the helmets.

Japan is one crazy place.

Anonymous said...

@lawnmower man

yeah, i figured Nigel was just getting it FYI. I just wanted to say "koitard". :)

SO, if I have a mortgage with, say, Countrywide (which I do), and I know that they have been defrauded (which I do) what would be the course of action? Call Countrywide and ask why they don't prosecute?

Anonymous said...

quick someone grab him!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

Anonymous said...

Hey Casey,

This is BETTER than the feds taking you away.

Now it's IN YOUR FACE. What are you going to do about it chicken Casey?

Anonymous said...

I really hope slashdot doesn't pick this story up....

then, it's over. IAFF will be pounded like Casey's sweet ass in prison.

Anonymous said...

seriously if it were legal to make a citizens arrest for mortgage fraud I would personally make a public list of offenders and start a posse like the old west.

realtors, brokers, crooked title clerks, cash back recievers (and givers!) BEWARE!

anyone not 'owner occupying' thier flip/rental LOOKOUT! (20 million people here alone!)

Anonymous said...

"I just made a business decision...you know... based on other people's advice..."

Here is a hint, fliptard: When you just do what some other dude tells you they might do, in passing, that's not exactly exercising the best of your own business acumen. Of course, if you have no acumen....or experience... or plan...

'I was 19 turning 20...I was gettin' burnt out... I was workin' way too hard... I though it would be a lot easier bein' a business owner...so impressed with how EASY it was to get 100% loan...we are talkin' 2003, I took a six month break...sold existing car... paid 5G for a newer car...'

Which was subsequently replaced by VDubs, right? Which is a broken down hulk with a note on it, right?

Listen, I bought my first car for $300 cash I earned myself at 16, paid my own insurance, and kept and used that car for three years, sold it for $500.

I made it a cleaner, more reliable, better car.

And profited.

Just like my homes.

See how that is already different than you, Pool boi?

Anonymous said...

Well I just did it, I deleted my link to IAFF forever.

My brain can't take all the "atta boy" and "how wonderful" crap posts anymore.

I have officially walked over to the darkside. Hope I'm welcome.

Anonymous said...

First tape ends in a whimper; can't work the recording system too well.

The Dude said...

aaron,

Nice day...but a threefer isn't nearly the record....best I've done is a fourfer

About the topic...I've been reading it and reading it, but must be too much of a looser amatere. What's the link?

kndmanz said...

@dm

I have a Countrywide mortgage, too. Let me know what you plan on doing, and I will follow suit.

Anonymous said...

Citien Kane:

"I would personally make a public list of offenders and start a posse like the old west."

Welcome to the New West, podnuh.

Posses form electronically now.

The Cyber-Militia of Social Hygiene.

It's going to get better the more experience we have at it.

Anonymous said...

I know red lots of suck up comments over there. Oh well it's dead beat husband Casey as usual.

The Dude said...

segfault,

I've said this before, but it warrants repeating.....Discovery is a BITCH. Snowflake is clueless, but maybe Massive Marty is sharp enough to understand what that means. Cases that are "settled" usually have a caveat to not disclose terms.....which go beyond $$$$ and into what's in the depositions.

Anonymous said...

Casey and his two rentboys has spent the last several days writing positive comments and approving them.

Red, welcome to the underbelly of the earth, where the haterz rule. Make yourself a drink and pull up a chair.

lawnmower man said...

LMP has basically fired a broadside to Casey

And Marty. Marty's bluff about taking action over the leaked files -- which was already sounding shaky in the McCullagh interview -- has been called. Big time. Bye-bye Marty.

Anonymous said...

Fuck Dawg, fix you link!

Anonymous said...

Maybe 2225 will become as important a number to Casey as 2759 was to Nigel:

2225

Anonymous said...

I ran LMP's letter through the reverse verbosometer for those who don't have the time to read it. Sorry for the caps.



I HAVE FORWARDED THIS TO STEWART. I ALSO SENT A COPY TO NIGEL HOPING HE WOULD TALK SOME SENSE INTO YOU.

I PUT THE INTERVIEWS THAT YOU CLAIM ARE COPYRIGHTED ON MY WEBSITE, LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE. I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE FOR A WHILE. I PUT IT THERE SO YOUR LENDERS COULD READ IT.

YOU KEEP COMMITTING FRAUD AND WON'T STOP. SINCE YOUR FRAUDULENT DEALINGS WITH ME TOOK PLACE IN CA, I EXPECT YOU TO FILE SUIT IN CA. DON'T SEND ME SOME BULLSHIT AUSTRALIAN SUMMONS. IF YOU DON'T HURRY UP AND SUE ME, I MAY SUE YOU MYSELF.

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. IF YOU QUIT FUCKING UP I MAY NOT SUE YOU BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DROP STEWART AND QUIT COMMITTING FELONIES.

Anonymous said...

@Rob Dawg

Not a lawyer myself, but my understanding of that section of law is that copyright can not be used to suppress something and prevent it as being used for evidence. Not; since it is evidence, it is not covered by copyright.

There are sections of law pertaining to how documents etc which are company proprietary are brought into evidence but suppressed from general publication.

lawnmower man said...

Discovery is a BITCH. Snowflake is clueless

I think the cluehammer may just have fallen.

Anonymous said...

So can we take it LossMitPro won't be making any more guest appearances at IAFF?

Anonymous said...

Hey, Mr 5:24 PM.

Let me introduce Mr 4:32 PM.

You are welcome.

Anonymous said...

@Rob Dawg

My previous post being said..
Damages in a copyright case are related to anticipated losses if the copyright had not been violated. Due to code 2225, Casey can't profit from the felonious activities.. expected losses due to copyright violation == 0?

Anonymous said...

@4:52 Mursestomurgatroid

That picture of Casey is too damn funny!! That pic need to be on the cover of the last installment of Casey's success saga.
"Casey Serin's Fashion Tips for Tweens and Twinks" soon to be a Bravo series!

Anonymous said...

Marty McMassive is having a massive embolism about now.

Anonymous said...

@red: a very unofficial welcome.

Anonymous said...

Thought of another cage to rattle over there:

"Hey, Comment Coolie!

*snap* *snap*

Let's hop to it on that comment moderatin' there, bub.

Don't you know that IAFF is your blog-master's one and only source of legitimate income?

Turn-to, hit it, and git-r-done!

The Hobbit is a very busy fellow, so his volunteer comment flunkie should work far into the night so that this derelict heap of a blog generates that sweeeeet passive income for Lord Snowflake.

You think people come here to read HIS tripe?

chop-chop, fella! Get the lead out!

aw: gold"

This is a beautiful thing, is it not?

The Kangatard is compelled to post to IAFF, not just because he's "bent" that way, but by economic necessity.

He's GOTTA post and it's GOTTA be interesting, or his shit goes stale.

But in posting what brings the dawg-pack, he bleeds more intelligence with every single word.

It's a negative feedback loop.

Just beautiful.

The Dude said...

Listen to Casey's voice and tell me this doesn't sound like him.
Voice of Colossus

Anonymous said...

Does Casey really say on the tapes that he sold his first car? I thought he wrecked it and used the insurance payout to get VDubs?

Anonymous said...

@ MursesToMurgatroid:

That picture is sweet cashback itsallgood.

Anonymous said...

owned

Endgame said...

LMP / Mark,

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!

I have never seen anyone say "kiss my frickin' ass" with such public and legal authority.

And I applaud you calling the lenders on the carpet also.

Anonymous said...

Why does is everyone against me? All I wanted to do was save the world using the blessed gifts that our Maker bestowed upon the young messiah, Konstantin. Enlightening the world to the joys of illegal cash back, spousal abandonment and courthouse trashcan auctions.
Why all the hate?

Anonymous said...

@Sharky The Kangatard is compelled to post to IAFF, not just because he's "bent" that way, but by economic necessity.

It must suck now it's a JOB for poor Casey. So much for passive income, its all active now.

Anonymous said...

After a long day at my lame W-2 looser(sp) job, I come home, grab a beer and what do I read?

The Cyber-Militia of Social Hygiene

Once again the beer exits through my nose. Thanks Sharky, that is both funny and a great idea...

-RB

Anonymous said...

Glad to see you came out from under your rock, Ogg. Join the fun.

Anonymous said...

@hurtme:

" Thanks Sharky, that is both funny and a great idea..."

It's also a bald fact. This is the second posse I've joined in less than a year.

@murses:

"It must suck now it's a JOB for poor Casey. So much for passive income, its all active now."

Hope he pays his quarterly withholdings...

Anonymous said...

Part 1A: Casey talks about his lovely experience with a Cash For Keys move where he PAYS a deadbeat tenant to move out! Only Fliptard LandWussie would think of that move.

Hobbes said...

I don't think that the Federal Statute cited means what LMP thinks it means and I assume (though not a California lawyer yada yada yada) that neither does the California statute. Not trying to pick a fight with LMP, but you should stay out of the legal realm.

That statute means that just because something is copyrighted won't preclude it from being used as evidence (assuming that it meets all other evidentiary requirements) but it does not mean, it does NOT mean that because something is evidence it can't be copyrighted. I see so much stuff quoted here about the law that is just wrong, and again not to pick on LMP, his reading of the Worldwide Church of God is just wrong. That case dealt with what is Fair Use, not whether you need permission for Fair Use. Gair Use, but definition, means use without permission.

Of course maybe I am wrong in what LossMitt is trying to say, often times I'll read his stuff and just say "WTF is he trying to say?". This is not to say he doesn't know his stuff, he may or may not, but he's way out in left field on this one.

If you read this LossMitt, let me ask you -- does it matter to you whether the United States Flag in a courtroom has gold fringe on it or not?

Anonymous said...

Gotta have the fringe!

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Anonymous said...

SWEET

Hobbes said...

and another thing.... "enjoin" in the legal world means the what happens when an injunction is issued. There fore is Nigel is "enjoined" that means he is somehow forbidden from doing something. I think LMP means "joined".

Anonymous said...

Sue his ass!

The Dude said...

No fringe.....who wants a bush on Old Glory?

Anonymous said...

don't inhale:

"where he PAYS a deadbeat tenant to move out! Only Fliptard LandWussie would think of that move."

Except that he didn't think of it.

That was a Carleton Sheets tactic. Saw that on his vids in the early '90's.

The idea was that you paid the deadbeat his security deposit upfront to get him out of your place and out of your place.

Snowflake thinks that no one else on the planet was ever curious enough to check out his gurus also?

If I haven't shit-canned it, I'll gladly donate the course materials to the Casey Serin School of Real Estate at UC Davis.

Anonymous said...

Well I'm exercising my fair use by listening to these files and trying to excise the salient points that Fliptard makes.

Loosers keep getting dropped calls right now...

Anonymous said...

The Dude -

I Do! I Do!

Anonymous said...

hobbes:

I saw that episode!

"That flad has a gold fringe, that signifies that that is a naval flag and that this is an Admiralty Court! I am not in the Navy!"

King of the Hill

Anonymous said...

@ sharky

You should borrow money from Casey and not pay it back. He is such a mark he would threaten you with a wet-noodle bashing if you didn't pay him back.

F-ing WUSS.

Anonymous said...

Damn! And I spent all that time last night bittorrenting those files **sigh** I made it 20 minutes into Day 1 Part 1 before I nearly fell asleep from fliptard's dull and droning voice, and from his whining about how his EMPLOYER owned his work product.

Anonymous said...

Hobbes @ 6:02 ...

At this moment, it really doesn't matter whether LMP's legal logic is valid or not. What matters is that LMP has said "sue me".

Casey isn't going to be able to easily force the tapes offline. If he does a DMCA notice, then LMP just does a counter-notice and they stay.

The only way Casey is going to get the tapes off-line is to go to court. Do you think Casey wants to go to court?

Hobbes said...

@ Sharky

I missed that "King of the Hill" episode (and too many other ones for that matter), but there are a group of tax protesters/Ku Kluxers/ who hold to the idea that a flag with a fringe means a military court leftover from the War of Northern Aggression---but yeah, that's the idea.

But those types also get statutes bass-ackwards too.

Anonymous said...

Well, he can call it intellectual property; but you have to have something intellectual to contribute for that to be the case.

Anonymous said...

The material contained and provided herein constitutes a publication in protest as to seven (7) mortgage lenders associated with Casey K. Serin (hereinafter "SERIN"), for their collective and individual failure to seek prosecution of SERIN, for various violations of mortgage fraud pursuant to Cal. Penal Code §§532(a)/(f), including but not exclusive to, 18 U.S.C. 47, §§1001; 1010; 1314; 1341; 1343; and, 1344.

This publication is an execution of rights provided under the State of California (U.S.A.) Constitution: Article-I, Section-1; Article-I, Section-2(a); and, Article-I, Section-3, subsections (a) & (b)(1)


LOL

Hobbes said...

@ SmellyPogoStick

Well that's a different issue --- hell Casey wouldn't sue LMP no matter how great a case he had, because being a litigant, especially a plaintiff, is, oh what's the phrase, oh ... yeah its hard work. Which is the Casey Kryptonite.

But if Casey doesn't sue, it is because he is a lazy assed scoundrel not because the mp3's aren't copyrighted because they're evidence ... they may or may not be copyrighted, that's a question that's outside my pay scale, but if they aren't its not because somehow LMP may use them in evidence.

Anonymous said...

Part 1B: Casey's "educational" materials included a BOARD GAME like Monopoly...

He got into an accident while driving without insurance...he says "not much damage" of 3-5K was involved..."he intended" to get insurance the "next day"...

Anonymous said...

G'day, Mate!

http://www.thinkingaustralia.com/thinking_australia/wikipedia/default.php?title=Casey_Serin

Anonymous said...

Part 1B: He was "too busy playing with his software" to market his "business" properly...(I won't even touch that one....)

His first W-2 job actually had health benefits and stock options and paid 30K...

He was on a TechTV like show where he answered live questions about tech problems and software, hardware, etc...this was Fliptard's first TV exposure...

Anonymous said...

....and remember, TV ROTS YOUR BRAIN people....

Anonymous said...

Yes! I'm explicitly mentioned and linked in the Australia wiki article about Casey!

"I'll make ya famous!"
hahaha.


Thanks for more sweet traffic, Casey, and I hope you get a light jail sentence!

Anonymous said...

Curious what did Duane mean on earlier post about IAFF not being around in 2 weeks possible. Are we going to hear more from Duane?

Dawg, Keep up the good work

Anonymous said...

I had to stop after 1-B; my jaw was tightening up, I had a hankerin' for a Jamba Juice, and I was eyein' my digs thinking 'bout a fix-n-flip...

Now, where is my inflatable Mr. Kangaroo and my nightie...

Anonymous said...

Look, you guys, you're not planning ahead here. Casey's impending demise is the perfect opportunity to test one of my meme manipulation patterns... I've tested the other two on my own website, but the third requires... ahem... an *expiration* of an existing meme. :)

Venturi Meme Pattern

Piker Marty, bah.
I gronze on your memestream!

Anonymous said...

Is there any haterz chat tomorrow night? I know about the supporters chat.

Anonymous said...

@KC - Just call into the supporterz chat. After Mocha calls in there will be plenty of airtime left.

Endgame said...

I'd call in just for kicks, but - jeez, 5 ET?!? WTF. (And I'm on ET) Too early

Anonymous said...

Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but on day 7 of the recordings, just shy of 2/3's of the way through, Marty asks Casey why he purchased all of the properties.

Casey directly says that the reason he did it was to raise money by taking cash back at close (followed by a loud sigh, and a LOOOOOOONG pause by Marty...Marty comes back and seems to be a bit bewildered by what he's just heard....)

Anonymous said...

Sad part about this last post about sue and stuff...

IF THE LINK FREAKIN WORKED IT WOULD BE BELIEVABLE!!

Fix the link man!

Anonymous said...

Oh, my bad..just copy the link to your browser..

http://www.queuetrac.com/Serin/


Damn, Dawg, Serin has mad skillz; much more superior to your own!

Anonymous said...

6;56 anon

We know the original link does not work. but, in the spirit of whatever the opposite of Caseyism is (my pappy would likely call it "gumption") some soul already said - well, heck, looks like sumthin' needs to be done. And they got up and they DID IT. So at 4:32 PM, WeWantTheFunk said...

Thirst! Wurst!

Hey Dawg, you botched the linky.

But if you look at the linky it is a proper link to the files.

Now me, I am just a lazy dood going into my Casey nightie with inflatable Kangaroo mode, so I'm not going to make it clickable. But it's on the thread.

I leave the rest as an exercise for the student.

Anonymous said...

It would be funny shit if Marty was actually an agent recording Casey admitting his fraudgulent "Real Estate Investments".

Casey spills all on these audio files (actually not all but more than he should have).

Anonymous said...

Once you listen to all of those recordings, you'll clearly see how utterly clueless Serin is.

His business plan was impulse. Nothing more.

Anonymous said...

Ta make yer own linkietaggy thingie:

1) steal this bit:



5) place url inbetween quotes

9) place a funny taggie wurd of yer own choosin' between "arrows", just in front of the 'slash a'

15) Profit!

Anonymous said...

haha, tha AGENT HAS THE FILEZ ANYWAYZ.

so sorry Cashback Casey!

Anonymous said...

Another funny thing that Marty noted was -

You have to be careful in flipping because the agent that helps you buy the property at a good deal may also recommend contractors to fix your place.

You make an agreement with a contractor at a low bid...but he may change his mind or ask for more as he is fixing up (knowing you have the cashback money to pay for it) You will cave in knowing you have to get rid of the house soon because you are losing money.

Real Estate is a bitch these last few years.

Anonymous said...

Holy crap, can KC's voice get anymore annoying? I am on part 3 where our hero tells a thrilling tale of his attempt to "wholesale" a boarded up house confirming that he is a complete 'tard.

Anonymous said...

Dang,

forgot to check my post -- of course I could not put in the literal code -- DUH I am tired. Here is what it looks like, except remove all spaces to make it 'literal', EXCEPT the space between 'a' and 'ref':


< a href=""< /a >"

Anonymous said...

>> Casey directly says that the reason he did it was to raise money by taking cash back at close

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that in California it is against the law to take more than 3% cashback at close....

just checking ....

Anonymous said...

It has been pointed out by the wise man Peter Schiff that giving ANYONE AND EVERYONE a HUGE HUGE loan (with or w/o cashback) with ZERO DOWN and NO ASSET/JOB/RATIO/AFFORDABILITY check of any kind is actually historically unprecedent in any society. EVER.

Perhaps lots of isolated incidents in the past have occured. But this thing is widespread. EVERYONE who wanted $$, got $$.
NEVER b4 happened. ANYWHERE. in any society EVAR.

can u imagine the fallout headed out way? it too must be unprecedented in nature, no?

thank u casey for speeding the crash train up by putting a face on the fraud.

Anonymous said...

Casey's suggestion to us all:

Don't buy less desirable properties; stay away from bad neighborhoods; buy properties that people want to live in.

Well, snapperhead, I think we all knew that.

Anonymous said...

one problem casey had is the crummy cant sell it homes are the ones where the seller must resort to PAY people to take (cash back)

OTOH he coulda done it with nicer homes that were just over priced.

Sweet Cashback said...

soem dood,
You need to work some more on your mad IT skillz[tm]!

Syntax:
<a href=http://URLHERE>TEXT HERE</a>

Result:
TEXT HERE

Anonymous said...

The most ironic thing about all this is Casey keeps harping about all the things he has learned from this foreclosure experience, and he still hasn't learned not to post private information on the internet.

The Dude said...

Off topic, but worth it

I'm an amatere looser IT skillz dude

Anonymous said...

It wasn't me!

Someone musta been using my logon...



[I iz in yer keybord...messing yur tags...]

:)

My kitteh is hopin to get on with Serinco Industries someday...

Anonymous said...

7:23 Dude & sweet cashback:

Well as long as we are linking to funny Youtube...

This is a test of my IT linkaging skillz

flailing forward said...

The boardgame somebody mentioned is Robert Kiyosake's Cashflow for Ecstatic Fliptards.

Sweet Cashback said...

Sweet Cashback[tm] is illegal no matter to which amount! It always is at the detriment of the lender.

Sweet Cashback[tm] fraud article

Quote:
Unfortunately, as with most deals that seem too good to be true, cash back at closing schemes are just another way of scamming someone -- in this case, the lender, who's fooled into making a risky loan.

This goes always back to KC's love for Shiny[tm] Things[tm]. In his eyes they maybe Shady[tm] but never illegal.....

Miranda Mayer said...

And appropriately, the little cartoon guy on the board game is a Rat.

Anonymous said...

Listen to a few of those.

Question: WHO exactly has ever indicated Casey sounds intelligent?? Are you kidding me?

Listening to him talk, I am half expecting an Outreach van to show up to pick him up.

The Dude said...

Showing off my IT Skillz
Another picture of Joy

Note: Consider this your first and last warning. Not responsible for puke

Miranda Mayer said...

Oh my fucking GOD THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!

There should be a law against that shit.

Anonymous said...

It's not just for breakfast anymore

Anonymous said...

Audio 7

Marty is putting into Casey's head that big mortgage companies, lenders, and real estate empires will be begging them (Casey, Marty, etc.) to pay to place on interview on IAFF.....where the big money is made!!

Wow! Marty is one dumbazz!

Anonymous said...

It's not just for breakfast anymore

The Dude said...

Casey brain dumps with Marty
Casey leaves town for Tahoe
Casey brain dumps with Marty
Casey leaves for Australia

Connection?

The Dude said...

Stephanie,

That's SWEET cellulite! Aged to a golden brown and rolled TIGHT!

Anonymous said...

@The Dude

"brain dump" eh? Is that what they're calling it these days?

The Dude said...

Russian Top Ramen will always get you laid!

The Dude said...

Optimist,

I_AM_BORED.....

Snowflake won't eat a bug and nobody is getting thrown under the bus. I sure hope something bad happenz real soon. I'm an optimist. :o)

Anonymous said...

These audios are hysterical. Snowflake is talking about how to buy properties and what to look for. And he has the gaul to make a distinction between "investing" and "speculating"! LMAO!

This is like an obese guy producing a diet book. WTF??

Miranda Mayer said...
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The Dude said...

Here's a parallel to Snowflake's thinking:

I try out for the NFL
I get the crap stomped out of me and get cut
I go write a book about how to play in the NFL

Makes the same amount of sense. This "book" has to be a front for some sweet talkin' promoters to keep Snowflake occupied while they drain off his traffic. Nothing else makes sense.

Casey writing a book is like putting the alphabet in a box and printing on the cover "The Key to Pulitzer Prize is Inside".

Anonymous said...

Hey Serin, another domino has fallen --

Your old friend The East Coast Mentor has been fully outed.

You can thank master publisherMartin J. Stewart for that one... :-)

The Dude said...

Stephanie!

First the voice and now boobs! SWEET.....

Anonymous said...

At the 30 minute mark of audio 'Day 4', Snowflake "claims" he "didn't know" what was legal or illegal and assumed it was just "win win".

Has someone mailed these to the Feds yet? Or the DA?

Anonymous said...

woops, wrong thread.

Anonymous said...

You guys are idiots, sure LossMIT threw out some sort of small time challenge, but R. Dawg threw down the gauntlet and it looks like i'm the only one to have answered his challenge.

My humble submission.

Well, I guess we'll soon find out what happens when pretend entrepreneurs and phony publishers run into real businessmen.

flailing forward said...

Yay, breastseses!! CHJTS is going to ::swoon::

Miranda Mayer said...

YOU SNOOZE YOU LOSE!

NO BOOBS FO' YOU!

Anonymous said...

Boobs? Where? Somebody repost the saggy link!

Anonymous said...

with your permission, the picture will be on Steffypedia -- um, I mean Caseypedia -- in a matter of minutes ;-)

Anonymous said...

Do it Benoit - Quickly!

flailing forward said...

Hey, give us back our boobs!

Anonymous said...

Do it Benoit - Quickly!

Steph's permission, you horny toad ;-p

The Dude said...

I saved the boob pic
I saved the boob pic
I saved the boob pic

Sweet Cashback said...

Boobs??

kndmanz said...

Oh lord, Stephanie. I can't believe you opened that can of worms with this crowd. LOL.

BTW-I have to admit your boobs are WAY nicer than mine. I'm jealous.

Sweet Cashback said...

Oh wait......this is the one that is related:

Boobs!!

Sweet Cashback said...

Oh and while we are on this subject, here something for the girls:

Toys!!

The Dude said...

Stephanie,

Can he..can he? Pretty please (jumping up and down) Permission to CaseyPedia?

The Dude said...

Nigel's Guest,

SHEEIT!

Anonymous said...

Hubby says it's okay. As long as he gets to jam his face in between them tonight.

Sweet Cashback said...

And while we are at it lets revise some of our history about the last subject:

Toy eating

Anonymous said...

Stephanie, you just *had* to do this on a night when I had a social life...

Anonymous said...

OMG @ Nigel's Guest Blogger

Such talent! Thank you ever so much. I just hope I do not have nightmares tonight.

The Dude said...

Lucky guy.....thanks.

Benoit, you got the file? Let me know cuz I damn sure have it on my hard drive....(Beavis, he said hard)

Anonymous said...

I totally chickened out; but you guys were too quick for me.

Sweet Cashback said...

Come on guys, I am sick of refreshing Steph's page non stop for the last 5 minutes ! I fell as if I was stalking her.

Not that I don't.....

Anonymous said...

There was already an appropriate entry on Caseypedia for this:

BOOBS. :-)

6502Programmer said...

Mmmmm. Boobilicious. I think a few kittens will die tonight...

Now, I do have a question. Just WHAT thread was that intended to be posted to????

Mouse And Pencil said...

Boobs? Are we still talking about Casey and Marty?



They're lovely, Steph.

Let me see...

Corset...

Writer...

Near Portland...

Did someone attend Convergence?

Anonymous said...

I put the pic on the "Boobs" page because there were already too many pix on the Steph page.

If Steffy wants to edit her own page with a link to the boobs page or the image, that's up to her... :)

The Dude said...

See Boobs...really NICE boobs
Right click
Save image
Click
Done

Was there ever any doubt?

Sweet Cashback said...

Admirering Steph's boobs....

The Dude said...

Benoit,

Yeah, I agree. I won't post the pic.

In fact, I won't look at it ever again.....WRONG :o)

Anonymous said...

WOW! Just WOW!

I'm glad I just popped in tonight.

And I second the question: Where was that post intended for?

Anonymous said...

It was in response to this.

Anonymous said...

I was totally manipulated... with my own vanity. >:(

Also, it was a bit of a 'fuck you' to Mocha too.

Anonymous said...

@Stephanie J.

Please... who wants to f*ck Mocha after seeing those babies? ;)

Anonymous said...

Steph,
I guess we're going to get a mosaic of you eventually... one earlobe at a time. :-)
-RB

Anonymous said...

OK but don't you you need to correct the error and post it over there now Steph?

Anonymous said...

They're up on Caseypedia now. No need to post them over there.

kndmanz said...

I think I'll come back later after the flood of testosterone has abated...

:)

The Dude said...

Damn....she actually did it. Kudos....

Anonymous said...

I just thought the more exposure they get the better.
:)

Anonymous said...

Which one has the Casey trying to do the Circus Circus brokage deal?

This has to be the FUNNIEST shit to read in my lifetime.

Casey brokering that deal. BAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahhahahahahhahha

The Dude said...

Kudos for Stephanie HERE

Anonymous said...

@The Dude

OMG that is sooo cute!!!!! awwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

From the IAFF sitemeter...

Domain Name gov.au ? (Australia)
IP Address 157.128.155.#
ISP Unknown
Location Continent : Oceania/Australasia
Country : Australia (Facts)
Lat/Long : -27, 133 (Map)

Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft Win2000
Browser Firefox
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.0.12) Gecko/20070508 Firefox/1.5.0.12
Javascript version 1.5
Monitor Resolution : 1024 x 768
Color Depth : 32 bits

Time of Visit Jun 14 2007 9:31:37 pm
Last Page View Jun 14 2007 9:31:42 pm
Visit Length 5 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL http://www.propertyi.../help-needed/4321043
Visit Entry Page http://iamfacingfore...lia-and-idiot-haterz
Visit Exit Page http://iamfacingfore...lia-and-idiot-haterz
Out Click In Australia
http://www.flickr.co.../sercasey/541575562/
Time Zone UTC+9:00
Visitor's Time Jun 15 2007 2:31:37 pm
Visit Number 1,521,090

Anonymous said...

Declan article in a AU ZDNET site yields this comment:

"
I do believe this man is in Brisbane. That picture is of him outside a holden dealership that I drive past almost everyday to work.
"

Anonymous said...

Jiggy,

The gov.au is probably myself. How are you viewing IAFF's site stats?

Anonymous said...

HaHa.....I just pulled up the link that gov.au clicked into IAFF from....

http://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/help-needed/4321043

the title on the page.....believe it or not....

"Please help educate an American to the AU RE market"

Sorry if this has been posted before, I thought it was quite interesting.

Anonymous said...

Kind of boring last 2 days. Hopefully we have some developments tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Damn, you know what's really boring? People posting that they're bored. Find a flash animation, online poker, porn, news, whatever... elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

Transit,

It's easy, just follow this link...

http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=s27iamfacingforeclosurecom&r=5

If you click Who's On, it gives you lots of interesting info.

Anonymous said...

I didn't say my life was boring, the threads have been boring. So STFU.

Anonymous said...

Just listening to the first tape -

Snowflake mentions that his payment on a $105,000 mortgage was $1200/mo. Unless I'm mistaken, on a 30 yr amort, that's a 13.5% mortgage. Is he just an idiot or did he really think that a 13.5% mortgage was a good idea? On a 10 yr amort its 6.6%, but I haven't heard of a lot of 10 year amort mortgages...

Anonymous said...

IAFF's Aussie traffic is really increasing.

In addition to East Coast Haterz and West Coast Haterz, perhaps we will see a chapter of Down Under Haterz?

Anonymous said...

Jiggy,

Cheers for the sitemeter info. And I've been an Australian hater for several months now.

The Dude said...

In addition to East Coast Haterz and West Coast Haterz, perhaps we will see a chapter of Down Under Haterz?

Depends on how long Snowflakes stays....if it's over a week, the Down Under Haterz will be the largest chapter. To know him is to hate him

Anonymous said...

Jeepy,
Mortgage payments almost always incude escrow for property taxes and insurance.

Anonymous said...

Well, I am not done hearing all the tapes, but one thing is now very clear on my mind:

- Casey Serin is pure Fraud.
- Galina Serin was heavily involved in all the Fraud.

Amazing!

Anonymous said...

steph,

damn. now if you would pose with a clipboard.... :p

The Dude said...

Think of the Cane Toad invasion and you'll get an idea of how much damage Casey can do......

Anonymous said...

Transit:

"The gov.au is probably myself."

Heya, bub.

Have you got some kind of gig like pest prevention/eradication?

Letting Serin in would be the human equivalent of introducing the jackrabbits, right?

Looked harmless on paper...

Anonymous said...

StephJ;
Your pair...quite nice, and well presented.

Belgian you say? So would those be Walloon Ballons or Flemish Funbags?

And I can be objective, since Mrs. Sharky has honest 44 DD cups.

"Hubby says it's okay. As long as he gets to jam his face in between them tonight."

Ah-yup.

Sometimes having a "T"-shaped head has advantages that you never even thought of...

Anonymous said...

So upon entering Austrailia at the gate the guard asks Casey "do you have a criminal background?"

Casey replies "Of course,I thought that was required for entry."

teeheee!

Anonymous said...

@952 Jeepy...

Could've been including property taxes, insurance, association fees. Taxes and insurance are often wrapped up in escrow on the loan. Association fees would be separate, but sometimes people include them in the "mortage" pmt.

Still a 105k mortgage should have had, what, a $500-600 pmt? That's a LOT of taxes, insurance and fees.

Yet further demonstration of austard's keen "business acumen".

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