Housing Bubble, credit bubble, public planning, land use, zoning and transportation in the exurban environment. Specific criticism of smart growth, neotradtional, forms based, new urbanism and other top down planner schemes to increase urban extent and density. Ventura County, California specific examples.
Friday, June 29, 2007
With Apologies to Scott Adams
The real strip is here . If UFS or Adams asks me to pull this I'll use it as an opportunity to apologize and make Scott aware of Casey. ;-)
When the Casey Serin curiosity factor dies down and he's squeezed every last dime from his blog (his site hits do not justify the ad prices. Drudge Report was making $25,000 a year in 1999 when it was getting 5 million hits a month), he'll have to try to find a real job.
There are two extremes for those who buy or invest in real estate: those who think the market will always go up (Casey), and those who think it's going to collapse and it will be a fire sale (renters and doomers).
The market has bottomed out--the time to buy is now.
This was forwarded to me this morning. Looks like Casey will be homeless for the remainder of his Aussie adventure:
Hi Casey,
Are you still looking for a place to stay in Sydney? I moved down here to Woodcroft a few months ago, and I've got an extra room in my apartment if you want to use it for a few days while you sort out your situation with the interviews.
You might not remember me at this point, but a while back I was visiting my parents in the US and offered to record one of your foreclosure auctions.
Anyway, if you're interested let me know. I swear I'm not creepy :-)
Michelle
_____
Wow, thanks for the offer. What part of town are you in? Do you have internet access?
My Australian cell phone number is: 0424 415 051
Please give me your phone number too 'cuz I have limited access to email right now and would rather give you a quick call.
Thanks!
_____
Hey Casey,
I'm in a small town called Woodcroft about 30 minutes outside of Sydney. I'm about to head out to work, but here's my home phone (leave a message): REMOVED.
If you can't get a hold of me, my address is REMOVED in Woodcroft. You should be able to get directions using Google maps. Feel free to stop by after 7, I should be home by then. You're more than welcome to spend the night.
_____
Ok, i will come around 7pm. Thanks a lot!
I should be flying out back to the States Mon or Tue. Will I be able to stay till then? If not let me know soon. Or if you want to let me stay for one night and make sure everything goes well before allowing me more night, that would be fine too.
Again thank you very much
_____
Casey,
Out of curiosity, I did a google search on your name this afternoon and came across some sites (exurbannation.blogspot.com, caseypedia.com) that went into greater detail on why you are here in Australia. After learning what you've done to your wife, I have no desire to have you anywhere near my house. What you've been doing to your family is truly disgusting.
Property prices here in London rose at an annualised rate of 13.2% in June.
Also:
UK: Rise in house prices forecast Financial Adviser, 21 Jun 2007, p.13:-
Propertyfinder.com predicts that annual average house price growth in the UK will reach 4.97% in 2007. The strongest rate of growth of 11.25% will be recorded by Scotland, while house price growth in Northern Ireland will reach 8.12%. Property prices in the south-east of England and London are forecast to rise by 6.16% and 7.96% respectively. House price growth is expected to remain strong despite concerns about the impact of recent interest rate hikes.
Maybe Casey should come to London and Flip a Flat!
A concern - Casey's "success" with his blog is based mostly around the fact that he's so irritating to everyone (world's most hated blogger, etc). He needs the "haterz" talking about him to continue to squeeze any money (however small) out of his blog
Casey realized this - most of his posts these days are just deliberate and transparent attempts to upset his critics. Is constantly writing about him (exactly what he wants), a good way to deal with this? I've noticed this blog has shifted from almost exclusively Casey-centric posts to broader topics about real estate - I think this is great and should be encouraged further. You help Casey, albeit indirectly, by writing about him and increasing his exposure, however negative it might be.
I understand the need to coordinate information about Casey, particularly if an individual is gathering information to feed to law enforcement. But if so, a public forum is hardly the place to do it - tipping off Casey that somethign is afoot would defeat the purpose.
"We calculated how much prices would have to fall for housing costs (including mortgage payments, property taxes and down payments) to return to each market’s typical ratio of housing costs / income..."
Go sell it on the San Diego investors site, they may fall for it. Check your MLS numbers, inventory is growing... rapidly. Prices will continue to fall so long as there is such a surplus. Add to that the growing numbers of panic sellers and reo's, it's not going to be pretty.
Either that or get a new line. Simple quotes of "the time to buy is now!" are meaningless. This group prefers to think a little, not buy slogans. Give us some insight on WHY the bottom has been reached? What numbers / facts support this (and no, mass media being behind is not sufficient - they may be slow in catching on, but the trend is going longer than their lag).
Would love to have a well thougth out debate on the topic... but please bring more to the table than slogans and wishes. I know that's hard to do... all indicators are pointing to a decline in prices, so backing up the cheerful attitude will be tough. Give it a try though...
Casey royally fugged up on real estate during a downmarket. Any RE investor/agent worth his or her salt can still make money, even during a "down market" period. It's pretty easy, actually.
First, save money on your building materials. A good place to find discounted construction materials, paint, and appliances is at ReStore, the retail outlet of Habitat for Humanity. You can purchase quality used or surplus building materials, doors, lighting fixtures, and hardware for your project at a fraction of the normal price.
If you don't have a ReStore nearby, shop around for an appliance store that offers returned, refurbished, or scratch-and-dent appliances at a discount. If you let it be known that you're in the market for those kinds of items, you may find a store owner who'd rather sell those types of appliances to you rather than writing them off altogether. Ask. You have nothing to lose, and profits to gain--especially during a market downturn.
Another way to sell your house is to research your target buyers and then make sure your project meets what they're looking for. When the market's hot, you can get away with painting the walls white and installing neutral carpet, but when times are tighter, you have to be more creative. If you know your potential buyers, you can tailor your flipping efforts toward attracting them.
Along that same line, don't underestimate the value of staging a house to attract your target buyers and to prompt them to offer top dollar. You don't have to totally furnish it. Just add a few strategic decorations to prompt potential buyers to begin visualizing what their own furnishings would look like in the home.
Finally, it's important to close sales quickly during a down market. If you find someone who really likes the home, don't spend too much time negotiating. The term "buyer's market" means that buyers have the advantage, so when you find someone willing to buy your house, don't try to squeeze out every dollar of profit you can. Take your profit and move on, since you can never be sure when the next offer will come in--and in real estate especially, time truly is money.
It doesn't matter if the market is up or down. You can still make money flipping houses if you plan carefully--and then stick to your plan.
As related to the strip, I've always wondered what I would do if I were to somehow end up with absolutely nothing. Now, at this point I have a graduate degree and a work history with very respectable companies, so I would never end up with *nothing*, but it's still an interesting thought. How to work one's way up from the very bottom, with nothing to your name?
Well, I'm a "hater" but I didn't want to put the fear of God into him by playing some kooky character. I'm far too nervous to pull something like that off.
Knowing his history, he's probably very worried which email correspondence made it out to this site.
It sounded like he was talking from a pub or restaurant, judging from the background noise.
Go sell it on the San Diego investors site, they may fall for it.
Don't look now but SDCIA is a bunch od Dead Flippers Flopping, Investor Indigestion, Grief Consuling, etc. The place is grim. Or you could get the Broker outlook from Jim the Realtor.
I'm rather surprised that I'm the only one who called him. I did use a calling card so that he couldn't trace the call back to me.
Anyway, I assume it's one of those disposable cell phones that stop working once his minutes are all used up. It's probably a pain in the ass for him to get another.
so, he has a cellphone and yet couldn't call Cashcall until someone bought him a skype headset? Couldn't call his wife ill someone gave him a skype headset? Does anyone know if that's a pre-paid phone? I would think with a FICO score lower than his IQ they would want a deposit and stuff to set up a normal phone account.
That's just the kind of great advice Casey was getting on a regular basis for fixing, selling, or renting his houses. He never listened to a word of it!
Everyone else,
Casey can't call his creditors cause he's got no phone, huh??? That little liar.
I am sure he is going to cry-baby again because the Haterz keep hindering him in his sweet-deals. He might need this phone to work on his male escort service!
The problem with Casey is that he was grossly incompetent. A sh*t monkey could have done a better job than him.
A housing-price drop doesn't have to be bad for everyone. In fact, many canny real-estate investors have been hoping for just such a hit.
You can make a fortune in a falling market, you do it by buying low. Investors can build up rental property portfolios more easily in down markets -- if their initial pay out is smaller, they can more likely turn a profit on rents.
You always want an investment property to make money from the get-go -- always, always, always.
That means that rents must exceed expenses every month. It's even more important when prices are falling than when they're going up.
If you don't buy a rental right, by the time you pay the maintenance, insurance, taxes, and everything else, you won't have any money.
Just a little tidbit from some industry news sources, somewhat relative to the topic at hand. Nonetheless, here it is FYI:
”Bankruptcy filings rose 66 percent in the first quarter, suggesting the beginning of a return to filing totals that were set before Congress changed bankruptcy laws nearly two years ago.
“There were 193,641 bankruptcy filings in the first quarter, up from 116,771 filings in the same period a year ago, and the highest number of any quarter in the 12-month period ending March 31, the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts announced yesterday.” (http://www.uscourts.gov/Press_Releases/bankruptcyfilings062707print.html)
Might I add, post of the day will have to be that conversation with Casey.
I can say the www.iamfacingdivorce.com was not his idea and he was pretty upset at first and is still upset that it was registered so soon. I also heard from someone that he's further upset that Marty isn't transfering that or the other domains he bought "to protect him" over to Casey.
Just out of sheer curiousity and boredom, can a spouse declare bankruptcy, alone? Like, for instance, if a husband ran off to Reno with a local bar girl and set up house, could the wife declare BK on marital assets? Especially if she had an income she wanted to protect?
Just theoretical, of course, call it idle speculation on a lazy Friday morning.
To answer your question, yes, a spouse can (and sometimes should) file BK exclusive from the other. Having said that many bankruptcy lawyers will recommend filing jointly when possible, but a spouse COULD file separately for either tactical or practical reasons.
From experience I can tell you that a single spouse BK filing drives creditors bonkers, because collections is thwarted and/or delayed most of the time (until the dust settles). Yet collections against the spouse that DID NOT declare BK can still continue.
@ Property Flopper:
I hear ya. I’ve had the number now since shortly after Casey arrived in OZ and was saving it for later today (have to give Casey effective notices about next week). But hey, there’s always voicemail! ;)
I agree! You are a scary mother fucker(LOL) I don't think you would just leave those people chained and starving in your cold damp basement.
You sound like you would have them all neatly carved, packaged and stored in the freezer next to the little critters that I belive you DO torture and kill for your supper.(LOL)
The Casey saga attracts a strange group of people(a FEW intellectuals; PLENTY of psychos, losers, nerds, geeks, jerks, housewives, closet gays, neglected wives, lonely female single parents;a ghetto biyaatch;etc.) An analysis of the audience alone would be a great movie(LOL)
"You sound like you would have them all neatly carved, packaged and stored in the freezer next to the little critters that I belive you DO torture and kill for your supper."
56 comments:
Hey Dude...nice to be FIRST !
MURST!
And liverwurst, too!
Liverwurst!
aack!!
s_t_C
Dammit!
The Dilbert strip is spot on.
bugger.
thpptt!!
S_t_C
I'm wondering if we can sic Catbert on Snowflake...
Cursed!
When the Casey Serin curiosity factor dies down and he's squeezed every last dime from his blog (his site hits do not justify the ad prices. Drudge Report was making $25,000 a year in 1999 when it was getting 5 million hits a month), he'll have to try to find a real job.
There are two extremes for those who buy or invest in real estate: those who think the market will always go up (Casey), and those who think it's going to collapse and it will be a fire sale (renters and doomers).
The market has bottomed out--the time to buy is now.
This was forwarded to me this morning. Looks like Casey will be homeless for the remainder of his Aussie adventure:
Hi Casey,
Are you still looking for a place to stay in Sydney? I moved down
here to Woodcroft a few months ago, and I've got an extra room in my
apartment if you want to use it for a few days while you sort out your
situation with the interviews.
You might not remember me at this point, but a while back I was
visiting my parents in the US and offered to record one of your
foreclosure auctions.
Anyway, if you're interested let me know. I swear I'm not creepy :-)
Michelle
_____
Wow, thanks for the offer. What part of town are you in? Do you have
internet access?
My Australian cell phone number is: 0424 415 051
Please give me your phone number too 'cuz I have limited access to
email right now and would rather give you a quick call.
Thanks!
_____
Hey Casey,
I'm in a small town called Woodcroft about 30 minutes outside of
Sydney. I'm about to head out to work, but here's my home phone
(leave a message): REMOVED.
If you can't get a hold of me, my address is REMOVED in
Woodcroft. You should be able to get directions using Google maps.
Feel free to stop by after 7, I should be home by then. You're more
than welcome to spend the night.
_____
Ok, i will come around 7pm. Thanks a lot!
I should be flying out back to the States Mon or Tue. Will I be able
to stay till then? If not let me know soon. Or if you want to let me
stay for one night and make sure everything goes well before allowing
me more night, that would be fine too.
Again thank you very much
_____
Casey,
Out of curiosity, I did a google search on your name this afternoon
and came across some sites (exurbannation.blogspot.com,
caseypedia.com) that went into greater detail on why you are here in
Australia. After learning what you've done to your wife, I have no
desire to have you anywhere near my house. What you've been doing to
your family is truly disgusting.
I'm taking back my offer.
Michelle
_____
don't believe everything you read...
but thanks for the offer anyway
Has anyone else been to Joy odays website. She has some forums on there that have posts by a guy named "Hammermoneyguy"
Interesting to say the least.
She's still passing out the Koolaid pretty thick. I think there is a special place in Hell for folks like her!
Property prices here in London rose at an annualised rate of 13.2% in June.
Also:
UK: Rise in house prices forecast
Financial Adviser, 21 Jun 2007, p.13:-
Propertyfinder.com predicts that annual average house price growth in the UK will reach 4.97% in 2007. The strongest rate of growth of 11.25% will be recorded by Scotland, while house price growth in Northern Ireland will reach 8.12%. Property prices in the south-east of England and London are forecast to rise by 6.16% and 7.96% respectively. House price growth is expected to remain strong despite concerns about the impact of recent interest rate hikes.
Maybe Casey should come to London and Flip a Flat!
aack!!
S_t_C
Casey is taking showers in strange lady's hotel rooms. Wonder what Galina thinks?
A concern - Casey's "success" with his blog is based mostly around the fact that he's so irritating to everyone (world's most hated blogger, etc). He needs the "haterz" talking about him to continue to squeeze any money (however small) out of his blog
Casey realized this - most of his posts these days are just deliberate and transparent attempts to upset his critics. Is constantly writing about him (exactly what he wants), a good way to deal with this? I've noticed this blog has shifted from almost exclusively Casey-centric posts to broader topics about real estate - I think this is great and should be encouraged further. You help Casey, albeit indirectly, by writing about him and increasing his exposure, however negative it might be.
I understand the need to coordinate information about Casey, particularly if an individual is gathering information to feed to law enforcement. But if so, a public forum is hardly the place to do it - tipping off Casey that somethign is afoot would defeat the purpose.
Rant over!
"We calculated how much prices would have to fall for housing costs (including mortgage payments, property taxes and down payments) to return to each market’s typical ratio of housing costs / income..."
http://www.realestateconsulting.com/local/local200706.html
Sysiwig -
Go sell it on the San Diego investors site, they may fall for it. Check your MLS numbers, inventory is growing... rapidly. Prices will continue to fall so long as there is such a surplus. Add to that the growing numbers of panic sellers and reo's, it's not going to be pretty.
Either that or get a new line. Simple quotes of "the time to buy is now!" are meaningless. This group prefers to think a little, not buy slogans. Give us some insight on WHY the bottom has been reached? What numbers / facts support this (and no, mass media being behind is not sufficient - they may be slow in catching on, but the trend is going longer than their lag).
Would love to have a well thougth out debate on the topic... but please bring more to the table than slogans and wishes. I know that's hard to do... all indicators are pointing to a decline in prices, so backing up the cheerful attitude will be tough. Give it a try though...
Casey royally fugged up on real estate during a downmarket. Any RE investor/agent worth his or her salt can still make money, even during a "down market" period. It's pretty easy, actually.
First, save money on your building materials. A good place to find discounted construction materials, paint, and appliances is at ReStore, the retail outlet of Habitat for Humanity. You can purchase quality used or surplus building materials, doors, lighting fixtures, and hardware for your project at a fraction of the normal price.
If you don't have a ReStore nearby, shop around for an appliance store that offers returned, refurbished, or scratch-and-dent appliances at a discount. If you let it be known that you're in the market for those kinds of items, you may find a store owner who'd rather sell those types of appliances to you rather than writing them off altogether. Ask. You have nothing to lose, and profits to gain--especially during a market downturn.
Another way to sell your house is to research your target buyers and then make sure your project meets what they're looking for. When the market's hot, you can get away with painting the walls white and installing neutral carpet, but when times are tighter, you have to be more creative. If you know your potential buyers, you can tailor your flipping efforts toward attracting them.
Along that same line, don't underestimate the value of staging a house to attract your target buyers and to prompt them to offer top dollar. You don't have to totally furnish it. Just add a few strategic decorations to prompt potential buyers to begin visualizing what their own furnishings would look like in the home.
Finally, it's important to close sales quickly during a down market. If you find someone who really likes the home, don't spend too much time negotiating. The term "buyer's market" means that buyers have the advantage, so when you find someone willing to buy your house, don't try to squeeze out every dollar of profit you can. Take your profit and move on, since you can never be sure when the next offer will come in--and in real estate especially, time truly is money.
It doesn't matter if the market is up or down. You can still make money flipping houses if you plan carefully--and then stick to your plan.
Arron -
We can all hope it's true. Really depends on the source, but it's nice to think it's real.
@ Property Flopper:
I'm also a little bit skeptical regarding Sysiwig's rosy outlook, I guess only time will tell.
I think a downward adjustment on the interest rate by the Fed will be needed to help the economy and the housing industry, however.
Has someone tried his number?
0424 415 051
What's the Australia country code?
AUS country code is 61.
You're welcome! ;)
As related to the strip, I've always wondered what I would do if I were to somehow end up with absolutely nothing. Now, at this point I have a graduate degree and a work history with very respectable companies, so I would never end up with *nothing*, but it's still an interesting thought. How to work one's way up from the very bottom, with nothing to your name?
@8:55 AM, Anonymous said.
EN has always been about housing/economics. Focus on kc is just the boil on the ass getting lots of attention, or a trainwreck, for that matter.
If that is his real phone number....do you think Cashcall might want to know about it?
Wasn't Snowflake going to call them to find out what they want? Maybe it would be easier if Cashcall called him directly....
I just called the number and I spoke to Casey.
I just basically said that I got his cell # from exurbannation and he asked how that got on there, and I simply said "from some email correspondence".
Anyway, it wasn't a prank call, just a sort-of neutral "heads-up", that will probably freak him out right now.
To dial Casey's number direct from North America, you need to drop the first zero:
011-61-424-415-051
Also, it looks like a legit Australian mobile number to me. Correct format, and right number of digits.
Somebody call him!
aack!!
S_t_C
Awww, you just called to tip him off? Not even a question on the Utah wrap? No fun!
Or you coulda said you were Galina's lawyer, and time how fast he hangs up!
S_t_C
Well, I'm a "hater" but I didn't want to put the fear of God into him by playing some kooky character. I'm far too nervous to pull something like that off.
Knowing his history, he's probably very worried which email correspondence made it out to this site.
It sounded like he was talking from a pub or restaurant, judging from the background noise.
It's 2:15 in the morning in Sydney. What's our young grasshopper doing up so late?
It must be because he has nowhere to go.
Go sell it on the San Diego investors site, they may fall for it.
Don't look now but SDCIA is a bunch od Dead Flippers Flopping, Investor Indigestion, Grief Consuling, etc. The place is grim. Or you could get the Broker outlook from Jim the Realtor.
The first time he picked up and hang up, seemed like he was in the middle of a conversation....then it just rang....now it goes to voicemail......
I'm rather surprised that I'm the only one who called him. I did use a calling card so that he couldn't trace the call back to me.
Anyway, I assume it's one of those disposable cell phones that stop working once his minutes are all used up. It's probably a pain in the ass for him to get another.
Must be on a hot date with Kim.
I think Sysiwig is a troll who is a sissy who wears a wig.
so, he has a cellphone and yet couldn't call Cashcall until someone bought him a skype headset? Couldn't call his wife ill someone gave him a skype headset? Does anyone know if that's a pre-paid phone? I would think with a FICO score lower than his IQ they would want a deposit and stuff to set up a normal phone account.
Beastie,
That's just the kind of great advice Casey was getting on a regular basis for fixing, selling, or renting his houses. He never listened to a word of it!
Everyone else,
Casey can't call his creditors cause he's got no phone, huh??? That little liar.
Oh, c'mon, everybody. If we all call at once he's just gonna toss it in the garbage. Easy come, easy go, ya know? Let's show a little restraint.
I am sure he is going to cry-baby again because the Haterz keep hindering him in his sweet-deals. He might need this phone to work on his male escort service!
...
It IS Casey's number!
I gotta say, I was skeptical that it would be true,so I just rang it. It went to his voicemail service. Definitely him.
Methinks it'll he won't be answering his phone for the forseeable future.
Damn us Haterz. He's probably expecting some calls about Sweet Deals too.
@ mejustme:
The problem with Casey is that he was grossly incompetent. A sh*t monkey could have done a better job than him.
A housing-price drop doesn't have to be bad for everyone. In fact, many canny real-estate investors have been hoping for just such a hit.
You can make a fortune in a falling market, you do it by buying low. Investors can build up rental property portfolios more easily in down markets -- if their initial pay out is smaller, they can more likely turn a profit on rents.
You always want an investment property to make money from the get-go -- always, always, always.
That means that rents must exceed expenses every month. It's even more important when prices are falling than when they're going up.
If you don't buy a rental right, by the time you pay the maintenance, insurance, taxes, and everything else, you won't have any money.
If it is ringing off of the hook maybe that will limit his "sweet" deals.
Has anyone brought the Kim hotel shower situation to Galina's attention yet?
The only reason he would be taking a shower in her room is if he had to wash Kim's juices off his cock.
Or maybe wash Kim's piss off his body... he seems to be the kind of guy who likes to get owned by women.
Just a little tidbit from some industry news sources, somewhat relative to the topic at hand. Nonetheless, here it is FYI:
”Bankruptcy filings rose 66 percent in the first quarter, suggesting the beginning of a return to filing totals that were set before Congress changed bankruptcy laws nearly two years ago.
“There were 193,641 bankruptcy filings in the first quarter, up from 116,771 filings in the same period a year ago, and the highest number of any quarter in the 12-month period ending March 31, the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts announced yesterday.” (http://www.uscourts.gov/Press_Releases/bankruptcyfilings062707print.html)
~Mark
Might I add, post of the day will have to be that conversation with Casey.
I can say the www.iamfacingdivorce.com was not his idea and he was pretty upset at first and is still upset that it was registered so soon. I also heard from someone that he's further upset that Marty isn't transfering that or the other domains he bought "to protect him" over to Casey.
@LMP
Just out of sheer curiousity and boredom, can a spouse declare bankruptcy, alone? Like, for instance, if a husband ran off to Reno with a local bar girl and set up house, could the wife declare BK on marital assets? Especially if she had an income she wanted to protect?
Just theoretical, of course, call it idle speculation on a lazy Friday morning.
MossMitFro,
Like everything else from our Gov't. Punch Serin in the search on the home page and it 404s. How much of my tax dollars are going to this?
Annonymite!
Aw... missed great opportunity. Casey won't answer the phone now... should have used this better.
Imagine that first call came from Rob. Or CashCall. Or Galina...
I know it's fun to call him, but the next time a juicy thing like that falls into various laps, use is wisely. :)
@ Mouse and Pencil:
To answer your question, yes, a spouse can (and sometimes should) file BK exclusive from the other. Having said that many bankruptcy lawyers will recommend filing jointly when possible, but a spouse COULD file separately for either tactical or practical reasons.
From experience I can tell you that a single spouse BK filing drives creditors bonkers, because collections is thwarted and/or delayed most of the time (until the dust settles). Yet collections against the spouse that DID NOT declare BK can still continue.
@ Property Flopper:
I hear ya. I’ve had the number now since shortly after Casey arrived in OZ and was saving it for later today (have to give Casey effective notices about next week). But hey, there’s always voicemail! ;)
~Mark
Litte Miss "Supporter" must REALLY like the Kangatard.
Or she's a "pro".
Good rule of thumb after a one night stand, fellas:
Wash your dick in the sink...if you take a shower, you remove your pants.
And that's where your WALLET usually is, dummies!
Ain't love GRAND?
(Listen to ole Sharky...he won't steer ya wrong...as long as you don't piss him off).
You Go Girl!!!
Sharky,
I agree! You are a scary mother fucker(LOL) I don't think you would just leave those people chained and starving in your cold damp basement.
You sound like you would have them all neatly carved, packaged and stored in the freezer next to the little critters that I belive you DO torture and kill for your supper.(LOL)
The Casey saga attracts a strange group of people(a FEW intellectuals; PLENTY of psychos, losers, nerds, geeks, jerks, housewives, closet gays, neglected wives, lonely female single parents;a ghetto biyaatch;etc.) An analysis of the audience alone would be a great movie(LOL)
Has anybody thought of giving casscall, credtard's phone number in OZ.
Just a thought
hehehehehehehe ;-)
Voicemail counts towards pre-paid cell minutes....
@Sharky Fan:
Yo, To-beee!
@ Anon:
"You sound like you would have them all neatly carved, packaged and stored in the freezer next to the little critters that I belive you DO torture and kill for your supper."
How ya like that there jerky, pilgrim?
Anon:
No matter...the Freakz seem to like it.
(Ain't like they got much choice)
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